“You Smell Like Dinner”…and Sweet White Womanhood: True Blood S4 E2 Roundtable

Ah True Blood. We hate that we love you. This week’s roundtable – featuring Amber Jones, Alea Adigweme, Jordan St.John, myself and Kendra Pettis – had quite a bit to say on the usual suspects. Laffyette’s growing Orientalism and our mistrust of Jesus; more speculation about Tara’s boo thang; a few cackles about poor, paranoid Arlene (who, may in fact be right); and the evolving Jessica-Hoyt saga. But what shocked us all is how much time we spent talking about Sookie – who has recently realized her privileged status is in danger after her year long absence.

Oh Sookie!

Latoya: Let’s focus on Sookie for the second. What themes do we see emerging with her, considering the last few seasons, she had at least some autonomy
Alea: I think she’s beginning to realize that her options are few. She’s come back from Faerie Land to find her one refuge gone. She’s fair game now.
Latoya: @Alea – It’s interesting how quickly she fell out of favor.
Jordan:She seems to be fighting for it more than she ever has but now has even less control between the fairies, bill and eric
Alea: @LP: I think people are sick of her shit.
Amber: She also doesn’t completely understand what she is or what could be at stake. It seems as if for the first time she’s coming to terms with the fact that she doesn’t know everything.

Sookie’s Blood as Virginity Metaphor

Kendra: re ownership: I was thinking about her ‘light’ from last season, which we now know is her blood. But given the southern metaphors that are popping up, the obvious comparison is towards her virtue/white womanhood like we discussed last week.
Alea: Yes! The purity of her blood falls right into that.
Latoya: @Kendra – Oooh. So you think she gave away too much of her “virtue”?
Amber: That also falls right in line with ownership and protection.
Jordan: I find it interesting that for her there is this one drop thing going with her blood… she is a small part fairy but people can tell, it has become the defining thing about her
Latoya: But she’s only as valuable as her blood.
Amber: Which is apparently extremely valuable.
Jordan: That is true… it is her currency.
Kendra: Potentially… she’s given up that virtue, and maybe with that the autonomy. Because now the men are buzzing around her to protect/keep what’s left. (Assuming that Alcide will be playing that white knight role)

Sookie As Kept Woman

Latoya: …Sookie, please realize nobody loves you
Alea: HA!!!
Kendra: Sookie’s suddenly realising she’s not as free as she thought and apparently it’s not sitting well on her shoulders…
Alea: Welcome to what everyone else has to deal with, Sook.
Jordan: Sookie seems like she’s finally smartening up although going to one man for help from another…not exactly enlightened.
Latoya: You know, there’s a kept woman analogy to be made here…
Latoya: but I’m distracted by Bill’s sudden [punk era in Britain] flashback.

Bill Punk

Amber: @Alea lol. maybe it’s all the power going to his head. He finally feels like he should flaunt it.
Alea: Yes.
Alea: Umm…..Spike, much?
Latoya: Please note – Bill, you are not Spike, and you are not pulling this off.
Kendra: LOL

Spike and Nikki

Jordan: Bill certainly seems to have reclaimed his southern roots in his evil turn.. he seems more modern in the past than he does at the plantation
Latoya: True – he looked almost young for a second
Kendra: re: kept woman… I’m not sure I would completely label her as that yet. She’s always been somewhat self sufficient– always has her man, sure, but she also had a job and a house. I really don’t think she’s going to give up that easily. She’s no Bella.
Latoya: @Kendra – I think she is. Her life is kind of at the whim of other [people’s] grace.
Jordan: Eric has become the new Bill… old school paternalistic… I will make the decision and Sookie will come around…
Amber: Making himself right at home.
Latoya: @Jordan – Just like Jacob from Twilight
Amber: @Latoya …and Edward from Twilight. I think they both were pretty paternalistic. Remember when Edward removed Bella’s truck engine? A bit much?
Alea: @Jordan: Exactly.
Latoya: @Amber, yep, same dynamic
Alea: Aaaaaand Tara’s back into caretaking mode.
Jordan: indeed
Latoya: sigh
Alea: Damn.
Latoya: …yep, Sookie is really standing in for the kept woman! Why’d [Pam] have to sell [being possessed by Eric by saying he is] handsome and rich.
Jordan: there is an interesting ownership thread here… curious to see how they resolve it. Will she end up having to be owned to be safe?
Latoya : “He pulls good string?” Did she just infer…
Alea: Yes, she did, LP. Pam, in all her glamorous glory, is almost like a model for what can happen to those Eric takes under his wing.
Kendra: @Jordan/Alea As opposed to Jessica, who seems to be chafing against the housewife/monogamous relationship thread she’s got going with Hoyt
Jordan: indeed… jessica is literally locked in the house all day

Submission Through Virtue and Vice

Latoya: But back to Sookie…Bill is behaving indifferently, Eric is a bit crueler and more to the point about his manipulations…
Latoya: Could a large part of Sookie’s appeal be the fact that she was with another?
Kendra: Wanting what they couldn’t have? hmm.
Amber: Yes, I think so. It’s not just about protecting Sookie’s virtue. It’s also about owning it and being the only one able to access it.
Jordan: @amber yes. Eric is upfront about that… bill isn’t
Alea: Yeah, they’re both attempting to force Sookie’s submission.
Jordan: bill claims her loves her but Eric is clear about the fact he just wants to possess her
Alea: Even though Sookie isn’t pure faerie, she’s enough to be an exotic Other that men want to own.
Latoya Peterson: @Amber – Which, in some ways, ties into that pedestal white women are put upon. It seems like a privileged position, yet it can be yanked away at any moment. If Sookie loses her Fae side, she’s be a “fallen woman” – with all that entails.
Amber: Exactly and Sookie is beginning to realize that, which is why for the first time she’s realizing that she is running out of options. That conversation she had with Pam was a definitely a wake-up call.
Latoya: That goes back to that other thread I noticed – the kept women thing, which again, was a huge part of the Antebellum south
Kendra: @LP, her exotic/otherness might account for Sam’s initial interest in her and his choice in GFs/hookups once he’s done chasing after her. IE– the generally coded ‘exotic’ women of color.
Amber: But can Sookie lose her Fae side?
Latoya: What I’m inferring is that all the blood draining from Bill is pulling her Fae out.
Kendra: Claudine seemed to indicate that it could be taken.
Latoya: @Kendra – Yes. And Sam’s rage at not being able to possess her or compete in that way with the vamps…
Alea: @LP: Regarding, Sookie’s fall, Welter’s “The Cult of True Womanhood” describes the tenets of white womanhood as being purity, piety, domesticity, and submission. If one replaces piety with fealty, Sookie doesn’t really have anything going for her right now.
Amber: Gotcha. She’s “losing her light.”

Alea: Where she is right now reminds me of the desire that wealthy white men had for octoroons back in, like, 19th[?] century Louisiana. Ah, Wikipedia told me that they were called Quadroon Balls.
Latoya: @Alea – Fascinating – so what does Welter say happens to women seen as untrue? Do they get treated like Tara?
Alea: Sure do.
Alea: The problem with Welter, I think, is that she doesn’t spend any time talking about women of color or working class white women, but, yeah, shitty things happen to women who are not “true.” Usually rape, poverty, and death.
Jordan: interesting… very tara
Kendra: Until now, Tara had been receiving two of the three
Jordan: I wonder what this means about Tara’s choice of a woman?
Latoya: ‘And that’s the thing. Tara represents everything Sookie is not, from the light/dark distinction on…
Amber: Therein lies Sookie’s dilemma–submit to ownership and be “protected” or risk the consequences of being “untrue.”
Jordan: I read a novel set during that time – Island beneath the Sea…couldn’t put that book down
Latoya: @Amber – with Tara being the “unrapeable” embodiment of how that happens.
Amber: @ LP Yes. Tara becomes the tangible manifestation of “the Other,” the unfeminine–not worthy of protection. Really, the only one who consistently protects Tara is Laffy, which happened again tonight.

Latoya: Pam basically gave Sook the “what you need to do is find yourself a good man” speech.
Alea: Yes. Which is her way of trying to do Sookie a favor.
Kendra: And I genuinely tihink that she believes that Eric is that good man– she does care for him.
Alea: Her cold, little eyes just light up.
Amber: Lol
Latoya: Which, in a southern context, is interesting to me. My mom wasn’t in that school of thought, but lots of my friends got that speech – find a good enough man that will take care of your needs, and that’s the best you can ask for.
Amber: Mmmhmmm…the “take what you can get” spiel. Smh.
Kendra: It certainly fits in with the whole theme of the episode.
Latoya: Which I guess goes back to a central conflict in the series: Can you truly love someone that feeds on you?
Alea: And can they ever really love you if you’re just food?
Amber: @Alea. I think that’s the bigger question. Especially when you think about vampires’ relationships (romantic and otherwise) to humans in the context of possession and ownership.
Alea: I think that vampires have the capacity for something resembling human love.
Kendra: Jessica and Hoyt are the best way to look at that question.
Alea: Yes.
Amber: It’ll be interesting to see how Hoyt reacts to Jessica drinking others’ blood though.
Latoya: Right
Kendra: Not well, I’m guess. Hoyt has human reactions. Jessica only thinks she can, while new instincts override it all. She’s got that teen puppy love idea still, but it’s at odds with the rest of her.
Alea: I was talking about gay marriage in NY with a few of my cousins today — I’m at my family reunion in St. Vincent — and they quickly got around to “we, as straight people, are failing half the time, but if y’all want it, good luck.” Jessica and Hoyt are having the same types of ish that humans have in traditional relationships. I love that!

We need to talk about Sam (and Luna)

Sam and Luna

Kendra: Apparently Sam has a thing for brown women now that he knows he cant have the blonde.
Latoya: @Kendra – *snort*
Alea: Or because he’s realized that the blonde is not worth the trouble?
Kendra: hah!
Alea: I really like Sam’s relationship with this woman so far. Not just ‘cause she’s ridiculously hottt.
Jordan: yeah… he seems to be playing with a lot of the ladies of color while he pines for sookie… i would like him to have a real relationship with one or I am going to start getting annoyed
Alea: Is he still pining? Alea: I don’t know about that.
Kendra: He spends most of his time pissed off at Sookie these days, and it’s classic ‘acting out because I got rejected hardcore’ behavior.
Jordan: No one is that upset at someone for not calling unless they still care
Latoya: Maybe “dark” Sam is into dark(er) women
Amber: Word. I think Sam has just come to terms with the fact that Sookie’s off limits and resents her for it. If Sookie would give him the time of day, I think he’d come back running.
Alea: @LP: Hmm. Interesting.
Alea: Anyway, I find Luna pretty fascinating. She comes from the tragic background that all brown people in Bon Temps seem to come from, but she seems not too poorly adjusted.
Kendra: Now that we know Luna’s Native I’m going to automatically be sideeyeing her, which I hate to have to do, but… this is television. And the actress apparently isn’t Native as far as google is telling me…
Amber: Yeah…I’m glad to have another woman of color in the mix. I don’t know how I feel about her with Sam though, but I also don’t know how I feel about Sam these days.
Janina Gavankar
Alea: @Kendra: your side-eye is appreciated!
Latoya: @Alea – Yeah, my mind jumped to a bad place when she said she shifted into her mother…thank goodness that was not the case.
Amber: @Kendra @alea ditto on the side-eye.
Latoya: @Kendra – Right? We wanted indigenous representation on TV, but…oh lord.
Kendra: Oh. She’s Indian and Dutch. REALLY, HBO?
Alea: [South Asian]?
Kendra: Pune, India
Alea: I’ve been there. It’s beautiful! But… HBO fail!

[Latoya’s note – Gavankar’s nationality is American; she was born in Illinois.]

Alea: Because there are no Native actresses looking for work?
Amber: Fail, indeed.
Latoya: Do we need to look up this shapeshifter legend? Or did they explain it correctly?
Kendra: I’m going to read again– the thing is, different tribes have different explanations. I can already tell it’s been boiled down. I guess that’s to be expected because, again… it might be HBO, but it’s still TV.
Alea: I was looking at Wikipedia, not a definitive source, I know, but it seems more complex than the show said.
Kendra: I was wondering if by telling the story, Luna was implying that she was different than the rest of them… not your typical shifter.
Amber: I think so. She’s the only one who was able to turn into another human being. The others in the group didn’t know it was possible.
Alea: @Amber: ditto. And that shifting is something acknowledged by her culture, even if it is acknowledged negatively, makes her distinct from the others. More experienced [for lack of a better word]?
Alea: I wonder if she had encounters with other shifters inside of her family.
Kendra: That would make sense… we know it’s genetic
Amber: Or if she’s told anyone in her family. She spoke of shifting as if it were taboo.
Alea: Yeah. Do you think that parts of it — like turning into people — can be taught?
Kendra: I took away that maybe members of her family blamed her for her mother’s death?
Alea: Yes. And that her mother was also a shifter?
Amber Jones: Hmmm…definitely a possibility. Are you thinking she may teach the others in the group (i.e. Sam) how to shift into another person?
Alea: Yes. I think that part of her “opening up” to Sam will include the sharing of the cultural knowledge that she has about shifting.

The Double X Factor

Pam and a friend

Jordan: What do we think about the fact that most of the empowered women vamps don’t do guys? nan, pam, queen…
Alea: Pam wears her scary on her sleeve, but Nan is completely ruthless.
Latoya: (I heart 80s Nan – now, where’s 80s Pam?)
Alea: Interesting point, Jordan.
Kendra: I’d actually assumed all three to be bisexual, but now that I think about it… that’s interesting.
Jordan: i think that they may have been with guys but here, there aren’t a lot of confident, strong women in hetero relationships. i may be forgetting some but it just struck me when I saw nan.
Alea: Yeah, there’s no doubt that they’ve definitely had sexual relations with men at some point in their lives, but the preference for female sexual partners could hint at the fact that men, for those three, are simply thought to be business partners, bosses, or tools to gain power.
Kendra: I would ask if it’s maybe the power-lesbian [butch?] stereotype?
Amber: That is really interesting. Especially when you throw new empowered Tara into the mix (even though she’s human).
Amber: @Kendra, that’s the vibe I’m kind of getting, but I’m still trying to feel it out in Tara’s case.
Kendra: I’m hesitant to say butch, because I feel like aside from Tara they ALL fit the “lipstick lesbian” mold.
Alea: Yes. Super femme.
Amber Jones: Agreed.
Latoya: Tara kinda fits [the lipstick lesbian mold] too…
Kendra: ….I want to talk about this woman once we know more about her…

Dancing Around Slavery and the Confederacy

Bill's House

Latoya: …so, we are gonna continue the slavery metaphor this season…with Sookie? Also, Eric, you’ve been around long enough to know how property ownership works
Alea: Yup. “I could rape you if I wanted to, but I’m going to wait until you’re ready.”
Latoya: @Alea – Yes, which is interesting, because Bon Temps is coded as working class to poor
Kendra: Her blood tastes like freedom and he’s bought her… I think we are
Amber: I think it’s interesting that Eric brings up safety and attaches that to ownership–if he owns Sookie, he can also offer her protection. She’s safer with him, than without him…or so he says.
Latoya: Bill…and his fucking plantation
Alea: lol
Kendra: LOL
Jordan: Yeah… i have a problem with the plantation as it was an actual plantation… it’s interesting that he only restored it after he went evil
Kendra: I’ve never thought of it as a plantation– Russell’s really felt more like one. Especially with the way Tara was being kept on it. It might just be because we haven’t seen it in it’s full glory until now. Always looked like a run down dump before.
Latoya: …can we get a Cribs for Bill’s house? “Katerina is part of my security…” Clearly.
Jordan: I may be mixing the books and the tv but he has always had the money but he never seemed to revel in it
Alea: Along with the decor and clothes, it’s almost like going evil made it okay for him to stop living in the past. Or maybe okay for him to embrace his past? And actually use his $$$.
Latoya: @alea – Embracing the CONFEDERATE PAST
Alea: Yes. He’s bringing the confederate past into the 21st century.

In Which Lafayette Fails Us


Latoya: Wait – Tara you saw Sook before Laffy?
Alea: Lord, Laffy. “Asian pussy?” “Calming influence?”
Latoya: Asian pussy at work? Oh lordy.
Latoya: We all FAIL
Jordan: ohhh… did he say the calming influence of asian pussy…
Amber: Oh goodness, Laffy.
Jordan: I agree… we can’t look at the girlfriend as a character yet but Laffy’s characterization feeds into a lot of stereotypes
Alea: It was definitely problematic. Especially given his outfit in the bedroom scene. Orientalism much?
Jordan: yes… and Laffy’s depiction of the girlfriend seemed glossed over
Kendra: So she didn’t tell him much– or maybe she did. If she did, it makes his characterisation of her that much more problematic, boiling her down to just ‘Asian Pussy’.
Alea: Just that her girl is Asian. I wonder how much she actually knows about this woman.
Kendra: @Alea I still don’t think much. When Tara was on the phone with her I thought the relationship was more than it seemed, but then we find out again that she’s lying about where she is. I just don’t sense that this is real.
Jordan: Yeah there seems to be generalizations all around
Latoya: Let’s hang with the Asian Pussy remark for a sec. maybe it’s just bothering me because I’ve watched Archer and Wilfred recently…but Asian Americans (and attendant sexual stereotypes) are used as joke fodder often…without them being actual characters in the narrative
Alea: That’s one of the reasons why I’m so interested to see if this girlfriend character develops.
Alea: I think it might.
Jordan: i hope she becomes a real character for a number of reasons
Kendra: @LP Asians still seem to be acceptable fodder for whatever reason… just look at Glee as well.
Alea: And it would give the show a chance to actually do Asian-Americans a solid.
Jordan: Tara needs a healthy relationship and I would like her to be more than a soothing stock character
Alea: …who can provide a convenient outlet for anti-Asian racism.
Amber: It is really hard to tell whether or not they are in a meaningful relationship. The fact that she got a phone call while Tara was out of town may be noteworthy. And she did say something about coming “home,” which may indicate that they share some sort of life together beyond just a hook-up status..?
Alea: Maybe, but she seemed to hang up the phone really abruptly.
Latoya: But will they – I mean, they were quick to pimp her for the “Sexy! Hot! Lesbians!” scene, but will she get to the level of a b-character, like Alcide or Eggs?
Kendra: Well, they were in someone’s house/apartment the last time, so there’s that chance. But I still see it as Tara trying to get over a traumatising experience– which is still valid.
Latoya: Though, upon reflection, I don’t remember much characterization for Eggs. (Though I may have been distracted…)
Jordan: i vote for b character status
Amber: I would also really love to see Tara in a healthy, lasting relationship. I agree with you, Alea, and also hope that the show does Asian-Americans a solid.
Alea: @Kendra and Amber: ditto. I think that the girlfriend’s going to get a storyline, but that she’s going to turn out to be evil and Tara will get the shaft again.
Amber: I think for her to become a B-character she would need to come to Bon Temps for an extended period…and that scares me a bit. It scares me a whole lotta bit actually.
Kendra: She’ll end up dead, via Eric, most likely.
Alea: @ Amber: That would only turn out badly.
Amber: Agreed and it would leave Tara in a PLACE and we’ve already been there, done that.
Alea: It’s a place the writers seem to love to go.
Latoya: @Alea – Because she’s the whipping girl. And outside of brown fan spaces, no one is complaining.
Alea: Cosign.

Mystical Brown People

Jesus and Lafayette

Latoya: First, what the fuck is going on with Lafayette? Where is the skeptical side-eye slinging man I know and love? He’s taking lots of this in stride.
Kendra: The draining // using him has most definitely begun.
Amber: Ugggggh….yes. Where did he go?
Jordan: mystical negro… not too pleased about that
Alea: I think that Laffy’s desire to please Jesus and their stealing of his power is making him docile.
Kendra: Is he at magical negro stage yet? He’s not the one wielding the power exactly, and I think that’s normally a steadfast of that trope. That and dealing out sage advice.
Amber: I wonder why he doesn’t speak up more with Jesus about things that make him uncomfortable. What is that about?
Kendra: That could be an affect of the V or how terrified he was of what Jesus showed him last season… that hasn’t been referenced again yet.
Jordan: i think he is doing a 2011 mystical negro…
Amber: Well, after what happened tonight with Eric, I wouldn’t be surprised if Laffy’s interest in the coven intensifies a bit.
Alea: Absolutely.
Kendra: That would make sense– Eric’s his biggest fear and they decimated him.
Amber: Yes. That had to feel good.
Jordan: The only thing that elevates hi is that he used that power for Tara but I feel like it is more about pleasing jesus against his better judgement
Alea: Yes.
Amber: Definitely.
Kendra: I wish in the flashbacks tonight they would have done a bit of explanation of how Jesus got him there after what happened the year before. Because those were not good experiences Laffy had at first.
Amber: Jesus is so good at egging him on too, but it just always seems like they are treading muddy waters.
Latoya: Yeah – how are we feeling about Jesus these days?
Alea: Jesus is, seemingly, one of the best things to ever happen to Laffy, but there’s something shady there.
Latoya: He seemed like a breath of light – until he discovered Laffy’s latent powers.
Amber: Agreed. There is something sketchy about Jesus that I can’t quite put my finger on, but I definitely don’t like.
Jordan: I’m not as sure about Jesus now… which makes me sad
Alea: @Jordan: I know, right?
Kendra: He’s always had a slight upper hand over Laffy, that’s one thing that should be a smoke signal, I think. I mean, he’s had access to the man’s mother for longer than we know… do you think his interest in Laffy wasn’t genuine from the beginning? Maybe he got a clue from Ma about Lafayette’s potential. That same potential might be what caused her diagnosis.
Alea: Can’t black people have anything?
Jordan: indeed. so sad.
Alea: @Kendra: Oooh. Point.
Amber: @Alea Right? especially when there are only two of them that consistently show up.
Alea: That’s why I think that the girlfriend is going to be a part of the Big Bad.
Alea: They will never let Tara and Laffy have anything.
Alea: [/bitter]
Kendra: I don’t think the GF will be a big bad, but I still don’t think she’s human.
Alea: Definitely not human.

A Quick Moment of Nostalgia

Kendra: Can I say that I’m glad that everyone is pointing out how quickly Laffy’s gotten into the Wiccan thing? It’s all reminding me of those phases that girls go through in middle school after a little too much Buffy and Charmed.
Amber: @ Kendra. Yes! It’s very reminiscent of “The Craft.” Let’s just hope this one ends a little better.
Latoya: Seriously
Alea: Her convo with Jessica is much different from the one she had with Pam, if you consider that they’re both protégés of men who were or are after Sookie.
Alea: But, yeah, <>.
Alea: Given that that’s what introduced me to Paganism, I won’t hate too, too much.

Closing Up Shop…Final Thoughts

Jason and the Werepanthers

Amber Jones: Excited for panther Jason!
Alea: Pam, swoon swoon swoon, every time. I’m the biggest fangirl. Her clothes are killer. [/geeking out]
Kendra: Ack, we didn’t touch on Lesbian Power Vamps– quick theory: Is Ball saying something about death and female sexuality and reproduction? They (Pam, Queen, Nan) can’t reproduce anymore, thus don’t technically need men for that sexual aspect, thus go for… women? (there is a longer explanation/discussion in there somewhere)
Alea: I think you’re on to something, Kendra.
Amber: Very interesting, Kendra.
Kendra: I’m sure they’ll continue through the season, but with Jessica’s straying as well (Jessica/Pam, maybe?), it makes me wonder.
Latoya: @kendra – Could be. Or perhaps, the women of Bon Temps realized that their best option is a guy with PTSD…and he’s taken.
Alea: Absolutely. Nan, Jessica, and Pam are saying *something* about the relationship between [the death of] fertility and the utility of men.
Alea: @LP: lol!
Alea: Terry <3 Kendra: @LP LOL. Granted, I’d choose Terry anyway
Amber: @LP Bahahaha. Sad truth.
Alea: I wonder if Nan’s maker was a man.
Kendra: Gooood point. All the others have been…
Latoya: @Alea – ooh, good question. Male makers = lesbian vamps?
Alea: Quite possibly.
Amber Jones: Ooooo…great observation.
Kendra: Oh! And let’s think about Tara– her (almost) maker was male…
Alea: Ah ha!
Alea: Yes!!
Kendra: And she did ingest a lot of his blood. Who knows.
Amber Jones: Whoa. 😮
Alea: Kendra, you’re an effing genius.
Kendra: Hahaha, ty ty.

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  • Catherine

    I’m really glad you guys are still doing these. A large part of my excitement for the new season was being able to read these recaps. I may not always agree with you guys, but I really love that you are taking the time to deconstruct this show. Keep it up, please!

  • Anonymous

    Potential spoiler alert. 

    I’m starting to think that the father of Arlene’s baby is actually Terry. I just remembered from the whole maenad episode in which Arlene and Terry did have sex and they were clearly not in their right minds. So . . . perhaps the evil that may or may not be in the baby is a result of that time period. It makes more sense than the baby belonging to Renee. 

    This really makes sense b/c I don’t think they would remember anything that had happened after everyone in town was freed from the enchantment. So as far as Arlene knows the last person she had sex with was Renee. 

    Gonna wait for the next round table to discuss more things. 

    Pretty much agree that the Tara/Rutina Wesley hate is not much more than racism and misogyny. 

  • http://twitter.com/_Roxie_ Maria

    I really do not believe that Sam is still into Sookie like that. He cares for her, sure, but romantically interested anymore? No, I don’t buy it. Sure, he was pissed, but his employee was missing FOR A YEAR, everyone thought she was dead, but she’s not and all she can tell him is that it was “secret vampire business”. Who WOULDN’T be pissed?

    Also, Bill said he never owned slaves, but that his father did own one or two. It’s not clear that the house ever was his fathers or if it was just Bill’s. 
    I’m kinda shocked there was no discussion about Eric’s magical amnesia and what this would mean for Sookie now.

    Lastly, do not expect any of the romantic relationships to last this season. Ball is on record saying he finds the stability makes for boring TV. I think we can expect some Whedonesque shots to the emotional gut.

  • hans anggraito

    i’m disappointed at a number of things: Luna. NOT EVEN CLOSE. From the get go i thought she was indian (south asian), but then “mexican,” “old school navajo,” who are they fooling? And the whole wiccan thing: ok in the past season i thought:  good, a brown guy who’s into curandera, and lafayette might be a secret hoodoo priest, I like where this is going. and given that it is louisiana, i’m sure they’re gonna include voodoo into the story, the prospect of black voodoo against white vampires excited me. But then, wiccan!! oh, how disappointing

  • Anonymous

    I just read an article on another site questioning which actor you’d fire from your favorite show and there were quite a few votes for Tara. Then another blog I was on posted pics of everyone at the TB premiere EXCEPT Rutina Wesley because the blog owner ‘just can’t stand her’. This Tara hate is ridiculous.  If it weren’t for her, Sookie wouldn’t be here because just who saved Sookie from Russell’s clutches? Whenever Tara is faced with something, SHE saves herself.  Sookie really annoyed me running to Bill in this episode to help her with Eric.  I swear, in the book, she didn’t come off as so maiden-in-peril.

    • http://twitter.com/_Roxie_ Maria

      YES! Particularly on i09. They talked about hating Tara, wishing she’d die off ALL THE TIME last season. It started to feel extremely personal to me. The commented as if Tara did things for no reason. Now when someone tells me they “hate” Tara, I become very suspicious. 

      I think a lot of the hate for  Tara stems from her being black.

  • Digital Coyote

    Lafayette, for all of his people knowledge, shouldn’t have written his mother off when she told him the witches were coming for him.  Eric’s discombobulation is probably temporary and this is not a time to get complacent hiding out with some necromancers.  All hell’s going to break loose when he gets his shit together, but I don’t think he’ll kill Lafayette.  The joy he takes in making people suffer is very obvious and he’s literally got all the time in the world to drag it out.  His blood is important here, too.  Not only has Lafayette ingested it, but he can keep him alive with it indefinitely without turning him.

    Tara’s going to get shafted.  I think if she would’ve stayed away she would’ve been happy and not caught up in drama.  Of course, that means that the writers couldn’t beat her like the proverbial deceased horse.  Hoping Tara’s boo doesn’t get framed as a dragon lady while that all goes down.

    Hoyt and Jessica are a trip.  They’re Mr. and Mrs. Loving thing will only work if he really figures out how to be empathetic to her and accept her for who (and what) she is.  Expecting her to taste his food when she can’t eat it is proof of how myopic he is even though I’m sure he really loves her.  Jessica needs to say it loud, be vamp, and be proud.  My money’s still on him getting killed by his momma trying to be Sisterwoman, the Vampire Slayer, or the creepy doll girl. 

     Sam’s doing the “I’m an outsider in my own land, so the natives will love me” bit.  Most of this has to do with him not being able to have Sookie.  If he ever introduces her to Luna, there will be a “how did you choose her over me?” blowout because she’ll realize how far off her pedestal she really is.  I hope Luna has the good sense to avoid pulling a Mystique and shifting in to what she thinks he wants if she can manage to do people without having to kill them.

    Jason……*just shakes head* Like Hoyt, he means well on some level, but he can’t get right.  Say it with me kids: Tweakers are bad.  Inbreeding is bad.  Inbreeding tweakers with teeth and claws are double plus ungood.  He can think of the children, but he needs to leave Crystal and her unclehubby alone.  (Am I wrong for laughing at his addiction to this woman that’s obviously bad for him because she shares her name with a drug?)

    The baby is creepy as hell.  God love Terry for going for nurture over nature, though.  I think on some level he takes exception to Arlene’s ideas about damaged people when she starts going off on the kid because of his own struggles with PTSD.

    Pam is like the older (Southern) women in my family: their idea of safety without happiness being okay is rooted in the fact that they are from eras where women could not get along well without men being present and they stay out of some sort of loyalty.  In Pam’s time, death, rape, and slavery were probably real dangers.  Having someone take care of you, when viewed from that angle, is probably not all that bad.

  • tsarita

    These round tables are the best thing evah! :)

    ok my thoughts, which are about Lafayette and Tara, because I only watch the show for those two. I couldn’t care less about any other characters. Which means I only pay attention to about 10 percent of the show :)

    Asian pussy. You know what. That didn’t bother me. If someone like Jason had said it then yeah. But it totally sounds like something Lafayette would say. He can be very crude at times. I can’t get mad at Lafayette. He’ s my Eric :)

    Lafayette’s power and Jesus. I think Lafayette is still getting over his vampire terrors, though Tara seems to be doing better than he is. What I like about Lafayette is that he is smart and never bites off more than he can chew. I had a discussion with someone who thought Lala should have knocked out Andy, the V addicted sheriff,  in the first episode. I countered that Lala ain’t stupid. Andy is a friggin’ cop! Lafayette knows when to bow out because he is all about self preservation. Except when it comes to his loved ones aka Tara. :) I loved how he stepped into the circle to protect her. That was my favorite scene.

    I think Jesus is a good dude for now, but he might turn on Lafayette later in season when everything becomes too overwhelming. Nelsan Ellis in an interview said that his character will become very different from the Lafayette we know and love. He even said he was unsure of how the fans would respond. I don’t know what this could mean. Lafayette becomes a bad witch?

    Tara’s girlfriend. I think she’s human and the relationship is real. I hope to see more of her though.

    SPOILER There are a few rumors on other boards that a major character is going to die in the finale. Some people think it will be either Lafayette or Tara. Both actors are signed onto other projects now so I think it’s a possibility one of them will die “sniff”. The death is supposed to be part of the witch war and will impact season 5 in a major way. PS. Alan Ball mentioned that in this season’s witch war Tara is on one side and Sookie is on the other. I hope Tara kicks Sookie to the curb.

    Excuse my typos and awful grammar. I had a bout 3 hours sleep last night.

  • Tamulicious

    *slow clap* I look forward to your recaps almost as much as I look forward to the show itself. 

    • Mickey

      Ditto. I’ve been catching up on the series by renting the DVDs and watching them. Just got HBO (True Blood was one of the main reasons why I got it – thought a little late) and currently watching season 4. In the meantime, I’m currently in the middle of season 3’s DVDs, which is when I started reading the roundtable discussions. Great job on analysis of this episode!

      • http://twitter.com/_Roxie_ Maria

        If you have HBO, you (should be able to) can watch all the episodes of past seasons on HBOGO.com