Open Thread: X-Men: First Class

Hell, lemme start off the convo…all I could do was facepalm when Darwin dies.  I thought, “Really, movie X-men?! Really?!” It waw bad enough the franchise couldn’t make Storm righteous (even though she’s damn integral to the comics–and, to be fair, Halle Berry is half-responsible for that half-assed characterization of Storm). Then the writers employed one of the oldest PoC-erasure tricks in the books: Killing the Black Person.

Just fucking done-zo.

On the Dude Tip: Michael Fassbender. That man foined the shit out of that flick, didn’t he? ::fans self:: 

In the same vein as talking about X-Men’s appropriation of marginalization language, I found it doubly troubling that in all that they used it for mutants, there was no actual mention of the actual civil rights movement, which you know, WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING in 1962, the year the movie is supposed to take place in.  The country would be in the midst of freedom rides, sit-ins, forced integration, etc etc, but none of that is brought up.  Race is never talked about, not even with the inclusion of Darwin and Angel; they showed us the sexism of the sixties (“back to the secretary pool for you!”) but the racism was pretty much erased.

And speaking of Darwin, I would have been more upset if I hadn’t seen it coming from a mile away.  Score one for incredibly low expectations?

I think my main complaint with the film though was that it felt like I was watching two different movies.  The first, and demonstratively better movie, was Origins: Magneto where in Michael Fassbender schools us all with his gravitas and mad acting skills.  The second was like the live action 1960s version of  X-Men Evolution, it was all Wow!  Groovy!  Whats you’re power?  Lets come up with superhero names! 

Personally I would have been fine just watching the first movie, with maybe some more Nazi hunting and Eric/Charles friendship moments and a little less of the high school shenanigans. 

So glad you’re covering this. All of this stuffed bugged me, esp. the first and last bulletpoints (Darwin-as-redshirt plus all the characters of color ending up bad). (I’m white, FYI.)

“The rampant genderfail when it came to the depictions of Emma Frost, Angel Salvatore, Mystique and Moira McTaggert”

A-freaking-men. Apparently, women cannot do something heroic (or evil) without wearing lingerie, or some other skimpy ensemble. I am especially upset with the portrayal of both Emma Frost and Moira McTaggert. 

Emma Frost plays a strong female character in comics. She has a bachelors degree in education with a minor in business and is founder and CEO of Frost Enterprises.

Moira McTaggert has an intelligence that rivals that of Professor X. In the comics, she was one of the world’s leading authorities on genetic mutation. 
She eventually creates a Mutant Research Center. She went to Oxford University, for fuck’s sake.

They could have done so much more with these central female characters. But noooooo. All both of them did was prance around in short skirts, secondary to the male characters whom, if the movie stayed true to the comics,  they are supposed to be leading

UGGHGHH yes.  I loudly cursed when it looked like Darwin was about to die in the first act. Absolute nonsense, and a move that made the film seem suddenly and starkly white- a few POC characters siding with the antagonists, against protagonists (and world powers) who are almost entirely white.

Not going to start in on the portrayal of women lest I get carried away,
-C

On that last point- not for a second do I think this was done intentionally but I thought that it was actually story appropriate that it was only the mutants with white, male privilege that chose Xavier’s philosophy of assimilation.   It makes sense that those marginalized in society through gender or color in addition to their mutation would reject that for Magneto’s separatist vision.

I’ll always love this franchise because its X-men, but for the movies to really bring us somewhere new with its themes they need to stop just using mutants as a metaphor for marginalization and oppression and start giving some actual PoC, or non-hetero, or female, or *gasp* maybe someone who is all three of those things to the forefront.

Overall, I really liked the movie. I was both fascinated and annoyed by Darwin’s destruction. I think we all saw it coming. But watching Shaw’s demise, I had to chuckle because this genre toes the line when it comes to mortality/invincibility.  Also, Halle Berry’s performance as storm was SO repugnant to me, that when I saw what could be interpreted as a “young storm” in one of Professor X’s Cerebro visions, I sucked my teeth aloud. January Jones was…lackluster at best, and she had so many good lines and such potential to be…interesting, but she was flat at best, naked or not. Rose Byrne, whom I usually enjoy, was more of a symbol/prop than a character. And I have to admit that I liked Jennifer Lawrence.  And that I ADORED Michael Fassbender. FINE as frog’s legs AND gave the best performance of the movie? Shucks, I was cheering for him. I would’ve been one of the POC joining him at the end. And not just for political reasons. I can see how the movie played up the idea of the marginalized not trusting “regular people” to make good choices. But really and truly, I don’t, and I haven’t survived a holocaust, segregation or ethnic cleansing. “Never again” actually sounds like a really good slogan to me…and I have to fight my fear that popular opinion isn’t swing back towards those days every time I see/hear another presidential candidate announced for 2012.

What was up with Shaw talking about the humans “enslaving” mutants, then cutting to Darwin, the token black character? ON THE NOSE MUCH?!?! They exploit the guy THEN kill him, yikes.

I thought it was very odd during the scene where he is trying to get them to side with Sebastian and he says something along the lines of “would you rather be free or in slavery?” and then the camera panned to the 2 black characters for a long time.
There was a lot of subtext going on. Given the time period (late 60s) and the constant “mutant and proud refrain” it seemed like they were trying to make a parallel between the Black civil rights movement and mutants? They all kept saying “it’s ok to be different.” But what they meant was as long as you are white or a color not found in nature. None of you brown people need apply for hollywood jobs

Also, why did Angel have to be a stripper (not so in the comic) and pimped out by Magneto? Is there a medium that can be found between the regal Storm (done shittastically by Halle Berry) and her? Ugh. 

I really didn’t get January Jones’ interpretation. At. All. 

I mean, I get that she plays vapid/frustrated/selfish early 60s housewife rather well on Mad Men, but it seems she carries that into some other roles I’ve seen her in, like Taken and now this. It’s as if she’s typecasting herself.

I always liked Magneto, be he young Fassbender or older McKellan. But, as I said in the lost chat with Arturo and Latoya, I felt the movie was also setting up Magneto as almost mentally disordered for not wanting to assimilate or, at least, make peace with humanity. (Remember when Charles had to talk Erik out of pursuing the sub, least he drown?) Sort of how the media and some other folks play into/off of the schism between MLK and El Hajj Malik El-Shabazz, as if to make MLK seem “reasonable” for wanting integration because, goes the script, El-Shabazz’s “by any means necessary” rhetoric is downright lethal foolishness in comparison.  (Of course, Charles and Erik, I think, are supposed to represent the MLK/El-Shabazz dialectic.)

Everything I would’ve said has been said except this film made me incredibly sympathetic to Magneto. If I were asked, I’m not sure I’d stay with Xavier. Considering the time period and what the women & poc had to be going through. I don’t know if Xavier’s rhetoric would appeal to me.

I think you’re right on with comparing Charles/Eric to MLK/El-Shabazz, but I actually wasn’t sure who the movie wanted us to root for.  The expected answer is that we root for Charles because he’s “the good guy” but I actually felt like, if nothing else, this movie was about humanizing Eric.  He’s the one we end up empathizing with; Charles just kind of comes across as naive and privileged.  I LOVED the exchanges between the two of them when Charles takes them to the mansion in Westchester, and the little signs of Charles’ own bigotry towards those with visible mutations.  In the end we not only understand why Eric kills Shaw we’re almost rooting for it, we want him to have that catharsis. 

Though I don’t really know if the movie was doing that on purpose or if The Fassbender is just REALLY good at emoting   

LMAO! Yeah, she did! But again, I’m not sure if it’s because she truly was annoyed (considering how jainky her character is treated, I would be, too), or if it’s a weird acting “quirk” of Jones’. I’ve seen her in Taken and in a PSA for shark preservation. If as if she mistakes “irritated” for “badass” or “concerned.” Like I said, she rocks that as Betty Draper, but it doesn’t translate in some of the other roles I’ve seen her in.

Okay, see that whole parallel between MLK and El Hajj Malik El-Shabazz, I got something different out of it. I may have been projecting. Magneto was less than radical for his beliefs, he came across as…sensible. He even seemed to be the “good angel” on Mystique/Raven’s shoulder telling her to really be herself–even if it was just for her own safety. Xavier came across as not only hypocritical but compromised (and literally crippled) by his wish to assimilate. I mean, it took all of…30 seconds for the boats to turn their missiles on the mutants after they “saved the world.” Magneto barely had time to say, “Told you so.” Furthermore, Havoc was also a silent, less developed part of that conversation. He “preferred” isolation and requested solitary. Because he saw himself as a danger? Maybe. But back to Xavier, as others have said, he had the least development of the main characters. He had this half-baked overrationalized “pitch” about acceptance that he was trying to root in “established” norms in a time where people still were not accepting of each other based on appearance. His “rap” to women at the bar about how they were mutants too? Painfully bad. Even his suggestion that mutants cold be seen as assets (or worse, weapons), was  sad. Like he really had something to prove. I understand that may have been his method of disarming the fear that would almost certainly come from those who realized that mutants were powerful, but it was like he was begging to be seen as human. And he was a rich, white male in the US that looked “normal” and had a power that he could control. How was that method supposed to translate for someone like Beast? “Oh, but Boss, he really smart. Yessir. He could make a machine take the seeds clean outta the cotton.” But I digress. I think that Xavier’s polar opposite was actually Shaw. He wasn’t thinking about acceptance, assimilation, amalgamation, peaceful cohabitation, separation or isolation. He wanted to dominate and move evolution forward. And I bet beyond that he would keep tabs of everybody’s power that rivaled his own. Like Darwin.

But I say this all as someone who did in fact enjoy the movie, and who
is actually an X-Men fan, like an I’ve read 40+ years of X-Men comics
and may or may not have owned an X-Men comforter kind of fan.

My ten year old self wrote fan fic after watching the show. From what I can recall, silver braids and silver eyes and BFFs with Wolverine and Jubilee.  Clearly, no one here will judge you for a comforter.

I initially had the same reaction to Darwin’s death, but in the comics, he’s brought in as a character who was presumed to have been killed in one of the X-Men’s first adventures. It turned out that he had converted to pure energy and in fact survived, only to be recovered by Beast. So, hopefully he’ll be back in the sequel, but that would probably be giving the movie too much credit

is nobody going to comment on kevin bacon. between him and fassbender that thing was covered.  was like no is that that skinny boy from footloose. everyone else was an extra. there was no need to kill darwin, he was a plot device and that didn’t advance the plot AT ALL. 

…hold on, Meg. Let me state for the record that, in the lost chat, I was teased by the Peditrix (combo of “publisher” and “editrix) herself about writing fan-fic because I said, to quote my gurl Sarah Jaffe, this X-men is a love story about Charles and Erik. Come to find out none other than James McAvoy said the exact same thing.

::does fan-fic writer’s dance::

Heh, even the actor’s have slash goggles!!

This was the corniest movie I ever saw. It was very half-assed and for some reason seemed like it was low-budget. I was bored, embarrassed by the lack of character development. If I had not read the comics or anything on the X-Men I would have been confused. I was extremely upset by the Darwin incident. What an anti-climactic way to go. I really think it took each actor one day to prepare for and film every scene they would appear in. It seemed like so much more could be done to make the film as exciting as the other X-Men films.

I did feel like the writers might not be aware that Xavier was essentially Privilege Denying White Dude personified.  I couldn’t understand for a second why it was totally cool for him to wipe someone’s brain when convenient but totally uncool for Magnito to kill Nazis.  I did feel like the actor captured that entitlement in a way Patrick Stewart hadn’t, and I appreciated that, but it still felt like the script was trying really hard to turn this odious character in to the hero.

Does it make up any ground with you that he died trying to protect his friend? I did not like that they killed Darwin, not because he was a black character but because I wanted to see his power explored more. I think the characterization of these “kids’ as acting immature is probably pretty accurate as this is the first time they could ever let their guard down in front of others and it also lends itself to the whole realization when Darwin dies that they must train and be better than their enemies are. All of these origins stories must go through the same literary bildungsroman trek as any coming of age story and the realization of responsibility is one of the biggest parts and usually in comics a death for which the characters are at least partially responsible is part of that trek.

I laughed so hard at that part, and no-one else in the cinema even got the slavery “joke” or slip-up…

X-men isn’t The Wire… Too bad