Stories that Ally vs Stories that Appropriate: a Yardstick

By Deputy Editor Thea Lim

How do you know when a story is allying, versus appropriating?

In other words, if someone of privilege writes a story about the political oppression of a group they do not belong to, what is the difference between:

a) a story that brings marginalised voices to a wider platform and advocates for their rights, versus
b) a story that simply appropriates a political conflict for a writer’s own end, taking advantage of the fact that communities who experience marginalisation are rarely ever allowed to speak for themselves?

Apart from the fact that a story that appropriates usually winds up grossly misrepresenting a marginalised group, this is my yardstick for telling friends from foes:  one of the central purposes of a story that acts as ally, is to use one’s own privilege to tell another’s story, in the hopes of ameliorating the others’ situation.  Meanwhile, a story that appropriates just wants to spin a good yarn, get some adulation, and uses another’s story in order to do so.  An ally story is giving, an appropriating story is taking.

Quit jabbering Thea, you may say.  It’s easy to tell the difference between stories that appropriate, and stories that ally! We don’t need a yardstick!

Not true.  At least within mainstream opinion, it is startling and depressing how many stories that appropriate get passed off as political progressive, as allies.  Like Not Without My Daughter.  Or the documentary Born into Brothels, which purported to tell the story of the children of sex workers in Calcutta, but really just seemed more interested in showcasing the magnanimity of the American photographer who worked with the children.* Or another documentary, Paris is Burning, about the black trans/gay vogueing community of New York City, which brought immense praise on the white outsider director, but painted the community as tragic and hopeless, while bringing little benefit to them.  I’m sure you can think of loads more films like this.

Including…(drumroll)…Avatar. Which I finally saw last week, in all its headsplitting 3D glory.  And it fulfilled all the negative press I had read over countless months, from anti-racist and anti-ableist camps among many others.  But seeing how my esteemed peers did a lot of the deconstructing work for me, I was left to ponder another question.  If Cameron is as leftist as claimed, why didn’t he tell the story of an actual conflict between big business (or colonialists) and an indigenous group? Why use blue allegory?

Hollywood films have a generally untapped power to sway how people think about political events.   Packaging a political story within the rhetoric of emotion (and also I guess, within face-blasting special effects) is often the best way to get people to swallow arguments they would otherwise reject.  Hence a movie that – at least at face value – is very anti-war, anti-military and anti-capitalist is demolishing box office records with hardly a peep from conservative viewers.

Can you imagine the impact that a movie like Avatar could have, if Cameron had used all the CGI to recreate (for example) any area of the Americas the way it looked before first contact with the Europeans, and instead told the real story of an indigenous group struggling to protect themselves from genocide?  Imagine the kind of support it could create for indigenous rights.

So why not go all the way Cameron, and tell a true story, instead of inventing a weird, azure copy of a familiar history?

Well, because Avatar ain’t allying. It’s appropriating.  Along with the fact that Cameron’s version of indigenous people is quite insulting (they are monochromatically spiritual but stupid, and would die without a cunning but smart “civilised man” to save them) the answers to my question make it clear that Avatar is an appropriator, not an ally.

And responses to this question include but are not limited to:

1) Because making a movie about a real indigenous group would require work and resources that Cameron preferred to devote to special effects.

2) Because it’s one thing to do as Avatar does and make an argument that has already gained mainstream popularity – i.e. the war in Iraq is bad, our rate of consumption is untenable, people should be concerned about the environment** – it’s another to go way out on a limb and make an argument that is considered childish leftist faffing: i.e. that some meaningful political action should be taken to improve the conditions under which many indigenous people live, conditions that are a direct result of colonisation.

I am hard pressed to find a card-carrying liberal who will say “The native genocide on which our country is based is an atrocity that we all continue to be benefit from,” without hedging statements like “but hey, what are we going to do, move back to England?”  That kind of zero-sum reasoning distracts away from the fact that many First Nations people in Canada, my own country, live under third world conditions in a first world country,*** meaning (among many other things) poor access to clean water and safe housing, with suicide rates 2 times and infant mortality rate that is 1.5 times the rest of the country.  Throw in the fact that communities are still reeling from the residential school system which only came to an end around 1996, and the horrifying numbers of indigenous women that go missing or are murdered yearly, while the justice system does very little about it.

Surely there is a political option to remedy this beyond shameful situation, between ignoring it and moving back to England.  (Speaking of political options of even the most lipservicey variety: in 2007 when the UN tried to pass the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People the US and Canada were among only four countries to refuse to sign.)

While Cameron is willing to dabble in native politics, he’s not willing to commit.

3) Because you might have to get permission from the native group you were representing to tell their story, if you wanted to do it in a way that still allowed you to look “progressive”.  You might even have to let them get involved in the filmmaking, God forbid! And this would mean that…

4) Because you wouldn’t be able to manipulate the story for your own purposes.   Though we should note that representing real life indigenous people and doing research into their plight did not stop Mel Gibson from grotesquely skewing the history of the Mayans in Apocalypto.

5) And most of all, because writing about real life indigenous people would prevent the kind of feel-good, Disneyfied ending that Cameron wanted for Avatar. While four hundred years later, First Nations people in the Americas continue to survive and resist the ongoing erosion of their cultures, it is a massive understatement to say that things did not  turn out for them the way they did for the Na’vi.

In other words, if Cameron had based Avatar on real people rather than blue ones, he would not have been able to use that story for his own purposes.  Again, for his own purposes.

While Avatar has more subtext than it knows what to do with, its biggest facade is that it is a political movie.  It most definitely is not, because it has zero interest in mobilising political action.  Its storyline is much too farfetched to be giving any kind of clear instruction on what the average viewer can do to stop environmental degradation, the war in Iraq or work for native rights.

It is a movie that hijacks the ongoing struggles of real people with far less privilege than Cameron, in order to hook as many audiences as possible.  But how is a story of native struggle an easy sell to worldwide audiences, you ask?  The tale of swarthy white man saving unenlightened savages is such an old cultural meme that it quickly hooks our brains.  That’s why Avatar has drawn countless comparisons (and multiple accusations of plagiarism): it’s a common story for our culture, a story we can’t get past because those of us who are settlers cannot reconcile ourselves to the horror of our history.  But don’t be fooled; that doesn’t mean Cameron is interested in that history.  He’s just capitalising on the story’s draw.

This is what theft is, in intellectual or artistic terms – rather than get someone’s permission to tell their story, tell a corrupted version of their story and then pass it off as original genius. Cue accolades.

In recent weeks we’ve heard stories of how indigenous people have begun using Avatar to talk about their own struggles.   Most famously, indigenous Bolivian president Evo Morales has shown unreserved praise for the film.  This article from Survival, an international organisation devoted to advocacy for tribal peoples, talks about how multiple Indigenous groups are trying to make clear the parallels between their own histories, and the fictional Na’vi:

A Penan man from Sarawak, in the Malaysian part of Borneo, told Survival, ‘The Penan people cannot live without the rainforest. The forest looks after us, and we look after it. We understand the plants and the animals because we have lived here for many, many years, since the time of our ancestors.

‘The Na’vi people in ‘Avatar’ cry because their forest is destroyed. It’s the same with the Penan. Logging companies are chopping down our big trees and polluting our rivers, and the animals we hunt are dying.’

The photo at the top of this article is from a protest by Palestinians against an Israeli separation barrier, where Palestinians dressed up as Na’vi to get their point across.

It just goes to show that when resistance is a way of life, you make the most of imperfect advocacy, of stories that are only pretending to be your ally.

Sympathy or even empathy that is not coupled with power-sharing is meaningless.  Any story that purports to show solidarity or uplift marginalised groups, but is not willing to let us tell our own stories in our own way, is not a friend.

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Some notes:

* The reason why I say this is because I was troubled by the lack of context the film gave for the children’s situation. Rather than looking at the poverty and pressure their parents were under, it seemed to demonise the parents for not wanting their children to get an education, without looking at the reason’s for that behaviour.  It was willing to show the cute and loveable children, but their parents were apparently not photogenic enough for the camera.

After writing this paragraph I looked up the film on Wikipedia, and found more depressing news:

However, Partha Banerjee, who worked on the film as an interpreter, has disputed the claim that the children’s lives have been improved. In a February 2005 letter to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, he says that many of them ended up in worse circumstances than they had been in before their involvement in photography classes. Critics argued that the lives and family circumstances of these children were too complex to be revolutionized by educating one family member in photography, or even by sending them to boarding school.

**I’m not saying that all these precepts are beliefs everyone holds.  Lord knows there are countless people who continue to support the war and believe global warming is either a myth or a natural occurence that has nothing to do with how humans use resources.  However the cultural trend right now is that many more people oppose the war than when it first began, and that people should care about the environment; even if only in the most silly ways, like Walmart’s Sustainability Goals or buying a hybrid H3.  There is no cultural trend to support native land rights.

***We usually use the term “global south” at Racialicious in favour of “third world” – I used “third world” because it is the term that First Nations people themselves use to describe conditions on reserves.

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Photo courtesy of the Huffington Post.

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Comments

  1. dersk wrote:

    You define allying vs. appropriating stories as:

    “a) a story that brings marginalised voices to a wider platform and advocates for their rights, versus
    b) a story that simply appropriates a political conflict for a writer’s own end, taking advantage of the fact that communities who experience marginalisation are rarely ever allowed to speak for themselves?”

    Seems to me that those aren’t mutually exclusive – at least at the most basic level, everything that’s ever written is for a writer’s own end.

    And am I correct in reading that you’re faulting Avatar – a fictional story set in the future with made-up physics – for not modelling the smurfewoks more closely on a single particular culture? Or are you just wishing he had made a totally different movie, something more like a historical documentary?

  2. queerhapa wrote:

    “In other words, if Cameron had based Avatar on real people rather than blue ones, he would not have been able to use that story for his own purposes. Again, for his own purposes.”

    Wait, what? Why wouldn’t he? Isn’t that exactly what you criticize “Born Into Brothels” and “Paris Is Burning” for doing–white artists basing their works on real POC for their own purposes? Wouldn’t it be even more appropriating had Cameron attempted to depict the “real” story of an “authentic” indigenous people?

  3. Thea Lim wrote:

    @queerhapa

    Obviously using the stories of real people are not a safeguard against being a jerk. That’s not really the argument I’m making. It was the fact that Cameron goes so far into space when he could talk about things that happen on earth – along with the obvious gross stereotypical way that he portrays “native” people – that got me thinking about the difference between appropriating and allying; considering the terms that he would have to make the movie under if he had been writing about real people. You’ll notice that I also provide another example where Hollywood made a movie about real people, and still totally screwed them over: Apocalypto.

  4. jen* wrote:

    As far as Cameron using CGI to create his imaginary world goes, he could’ve taken a page out of the Mannahatta Project’s notebook and gone that direction to recreate the US/North America prior to colonial times. It could’ve been really cool.

    In fact, now that I think of it, a project like that…maybe coming from the BBC/Discovery Channel team that did Planet Earth, etc., this could be a cool CG project to create a visual history. Lord knows it’d take years and tons of people to get an accurate representation of historical events, but it’d be worth it, I think.

    I didn’t expect much from Avatar, though, so I wasn’t disappointed, really. Except for the price of the ticket.

  5. Iggles wrote:

    Along with the fact that Cameron’s version of indigenous people is quite insulting (they are monochromatically spiritual but stupid, and would die without a cunning but smart “civilised man” to save them) the answers to my question make it clear that Avatar is an appropriator, not an ally.

    I have to disagree here. The “civilized” man REJECTED his culture because he realized the natives had a better way of living. It wasn’t that he smarter than the Na’vi. As one of the human, and a military man to boot, he had inside information on how to fight opponents that the Na’vi had no frame of reference for!

    I’m fine with the story being an allegory. I didn’t need to see another period piece of real history to appreciate the themes that movie explored. I love sci fi and I find the best ones explore human nature, and YES show things that occurred in our history in a new/futuristic setting.

    After all, if we do not learn from history we’re doomed to repeat it. If we don’t fight back from control of our society the same evils and oppression will occur in 2154.

    Also, if he told a re-told a true story of colonialism there would be no happy ending. For all the revolts, the majority of them was crushed and everyone involved was killed. (See John Brown and Nat Turner). They are important stories to tell, but I don’t think the fact this movie was a Science Fiction epic is a negative.

  6. Eva wrote:

    Frankly I wasn’t looking for anything serious and deep from Cameron. I do see what this article is saying, but to me Avatar is a bad example because I don’t think it was about telling a story, more about showcasing the special effects. Technologically I thought it was a cool movie; the story’s been done before, but I’m 50 and to me everything’s been done before. It was just a good movie to see in imax on a Saturday afternoon.

  7. Molly M. wrote:

    I appreciate this post, but I wonder if there is an alternate, less rigid way to conceptualize these mutually exclusive and diametrically opposed positions between ally and appropriator. Power relations are far too complex to be reduced to simple dualisms. For instance, while I’m quite critical of Born Into Brothels for various reasons (failure to document the mobilization around sex workers rights in Calcutta, and demonization of the parents in order to reassert the superiority of Western, white feminism), I also felt that Briski enabled the children to represent themselves and to be the creators of their own stories and subjecthood. The nuance, in my opinion, lies in the fact that the children were the facilitators of their own “rescue” to the degree at which they were personally able, willing, and ready.

    In regard to Avatar, I feel the issue should have less to do with Cameron’s objectives (we can speculate endlessly as to why he chose not to make a film “…about a real indigenous group”) than it has to do with Indigenous filmmakers under-representation, and scant distribution.

  8. Lynda wrote:

    @ Iggles I can see where you are coming from to an extent. but what about the fact that only five people in their whole history ever rode the really big flying thing (like he did) If Avatar where a movie in a vacuum I don’t think it would be so bad but the thing is movies have been doing the white savior thing for so long.

  9. Heather Leila wrote:

    Because if he had chosen a real group of people and set it in the past, then it wouldn’t be the futuristic sci-fi movie that he set out to make. I think Eva’s right, this movie is more about showcasing the technology than about telling an important story. He could have chosen any storyline – with one exception. The movie is called Avatar, not Na’vi or Pandora, which to me means that the idea that Cameron held most important was the the idea of a human having an alien avatar.

    This idea of having another body which allows you to enter another culture…well, I think it’s very interesting. And it would be very interesting to take the same idea and use it within a human context instead of an alien one.

    It has been done before, in a book, Black Like Me, where a white man successfully turns his skin dark with medication and passes for black. The book was about his observations, mostly about how white people reacted to him differently, asin, how they treated him badly. Perhaps the book didn’t do much to help black people, but it gave the white author a fuller view of just how white people treat black people differently, as in much much worse.

    Imagine a sci-fi movie in which you could have an avatar that would give you a different racial experience here on earth. Nobody has to save anyone, just gain a better understanding of the experience of others. What would that be like?

  10. moth wrote:

    Thea, I have to disagree – the reason for using an allegory is so that Avatar reflects the realities of multiple peoples. If he had made the story about whites and Native Americans the struggles of other indigenous peoples facing the same issues would have been ignored – as it is the film is being applied to their struggles.

    I’m concerned that you seem to be silencing the voices of indigenous people – saying that they feel Avatar is imperfect but that they’re more or less using it because there’s nothing else around. I disagree — nowhere did the indigenous people you quote voice that sentiment. They seem quite moved by Avatar and enthusiastic to have it as a resource — which means the film does is having a political affect on the way people behave. This article seems kind of like a non-indigenous person telling indigenous people what appropriation is.

  11. Jamerican Muslimah wrote:

    “…the thing is movies have been doing the white savior thing for so long.”

    Thank you Lynda!

  12. Iggles wrote:

    Linda – I see your point about the Turok Makto and it’s parallels to the “white savior”. I thought it was a convenient plot point (at best) and the “outsider does stuff better than the natives” (at worst). I think this “grand gesture” for Jake to redeem himself to the people rightly gets the side eye.

    However, I don’t think Jake was the Na’vi’s savior. A leader yes, but without the clans uniting to fight there’s no way he could have done it alone. I still stand by my assertion that Jake’s knowledge of how to fight the humans was his asset. Without that knowledge he would have been powerless to help.

    Also, it’s worth noting that even after flying the huge creature Jake didn’t become the chief of the clan. He won back their trust, and helped lead the military effort, but he didn’t automatically become the leader of the people.

  13. four-seven wrote:

    I liked Avatar, but I’m a sci-fi fan in general. My favorite thing about it was being immersed in a completely new and impossible world, teeming with glowing plants and animals. It would have been a completely different movie had it been set in North America before the arrival of Europeans. It would have been a historical drama, itself a valid genre, and it might have had as many problems, if not more, than the original.
    The point is, it’s not the extra-planetary setting and characters that harm Avatar, it’s the way it was executed. Speculative fiction and movies can comment upon society and history in ways that mimetic storytelling can’t.

  14. sheila wrote:

    I think it might have been worse if it was about real indigenous people. (ie Dances With Wolves). Because one can’t really get permission from a group to tell their story, because within each large group their are dissenting views and the question is inevitably: why is this white guy telling this story?

    A better way would have been to actually support indigenous filmmakers to tell their own stories.

  15. Lu wrote:

    As a writer, I loved this post because it gave me a lot to think about, and yet another way to question the way I present marginalized groups of which I am not a member.

    I do think that with Avatar the problem was not so much that he made the marginalized group aliens, but how he chose to go the “white savior” of the “primitive” group route. I think science fiction and fantasy is valuable, just like the historical stories this post claims would have been better. They each have their place, and if done well, can be really amazing ways to communicate a political point. If science fiction is used not to avoid but expand, it is a great form (of course, when I think of people who have done this well POC come to mind, not white writers, but I guess that’s another post!)

  16. Tatu Ahponen wrote:

    Cameron made Avatar a sci-fi epic because it was originally supposed to just be something he’d work on to develop the tech and CGI he’d need to make the sci-fi epic he wanted to make, Battle Angel.

  17. Seadhlinn wrote:

    @Lynda: I think you hit the mark. The issue with “Avatar” has a lot to do with its context, ie, that it is a rehash of the old “white-guy-goes-native” trope. There are so, so many reasons why this is a grating idea, but I don’t want to take over the comment thread.
    @Iggles: What you’re describing is the idea of the “noble savage”, which crops up pretty much wherever Europeans met civilizations they did not understand (such as Native Americans, Indians, various Africans, etc).

    I think the major issue is the viewpoint from which the story is told. There are far too many books and movies which allegedly explore another culture, but basically describe it through an outsider’s eyes (usually via a “mighty whitey” character coming into the group), instead of from the perspective of the group described. Frankly, it has a condescending undertone (implying that we cannot speak for ourselves).

  18. Jen wrote:

    Thank you for this post. Having the distinction between appropriating and allying laid out helps from the perspective of trying to educate myself.

    FWIW I decided not to see Avatar based on other negative reviews of it being all pretty-pretty but with a bad/weak/offensive storyline.

  19. kutsuwamushi wrote:

    “Well, because Avatar ain’t allying. It’s appropriating.”

    Would Avatar have been less appropriating if it hadn’t so faithfully adhered to the “What These People Need is a Honky” trope? I want to say yes.

    Reading your post, it seems like the primary reason you think that Avatar failed is that it should have portrayed a real struggle instead of a fictional one. But I think that what makes it appropriating isn’t that it’s fictional, but that the Na’vi’s struggle exists to glorify the white protagonist. Then the noble savage stereotypes make it worse.

    I’m a fan of science fiction and fantasy, which is often full of fail–but also, I like to think, full of promise. It seems that if fictional portrayals of colonization, racism, homophobia, etc are deemed “appropriating,” then that would rule out responsible authors making any exploration of these issues within fantasy and science fiction. There must be something else that makes it appropriating, right? I would love to think that it’s possible to write a non-appropriating, thoughtful fantasy story that includes these issues, because that’s the type of author I would like to be, and the type of story that I would like to read.

  20. atlasien wrote:

    Just wanted to address a couple of comments that seem to suggest that telling a science fiction story and discussing contemporary concerns are mutually exclusive. They’re not.

    There are a lot of things that Cameron could have done to subvert the white savior pattern. For example, he could have made the central hero not be a white savior. It’s that easy. How about if “Jake Scully” was an indigenous woman instead of a white dude?

  21. Lisa wrote:

    This was a really thought provoking post, and an issue I think about quite a bit. I’m going to be doing graduate work next year on the issue of intellectual disability and reproductive justice (thinking about how forced sterilization of adults with disabilities, the ways in which doctors present fetal diagnoses of disability, and a lack of social supports for people with disabilities are connected) but I myself don’t have a disability. I think it’s a really important thing to think about – in what ways is what I do appropriation? How can I ensure that I’m working and writing in a way that’s consistent with my ways of being an ally in the real world? What does it mean to be an ally when what I write/publish will have real benefits to me as an academic? All tough questions… thanks for the post.

  22. Nissa wrote:

    I do agree with some of what this post says but Avatar confused me a lot. There is a lot that is problematic in Cameron’s depiction of indigenous people, the white saviour thing but what bothered me is the fact that he depoliticised something that is always political.
    The people trying to destroy the Na’vi were not a goverment, there was no ideology behind it, it was all about corporate greed. But the reality is that corporations can do what they do because of their political connections and because the more powerful’s general population don’t object because the ‘other’ is dehumanised.

    With the exception of Michelle Rodriguez- the soldiers did what they were told but they were very clearly stated as having lost their honour and being mercenaries. That is hardly comparable to Iraq or Palestine…or to the history of Native Americans and other indigenous peoples across the world.
    I think he brushed past the concept of racism and those who were racist were so obvious…it was lacking.

    The idea of the film is so interesting but it was a form of appropriation on Cameron’s part he wanted to make a cgi laden sci fi epic, not something that addressed a reality head on but it is being used to make a point by disadvantaged peoples and as flash in the pan as it is-
    I am glad they have something so global to use to make themselves seen and related to although I don’t know how useful it will be since I think most people just don’t care about quirky tribes, disadvantaged savages or Arabs in far off lands…

  23. BSK wrote:

    The problem with Avatar as allegory is… what was it allegorical to? Is there a case in history of a marginalized group (indigenous or otherwise) overcoming their oppressors because ONE of the oppressors switched sides? If not, this is not allegorical to anything, and is either self-indulgent or simply fantasy.

  24. blah wrote:

    @atlasien, others

    I fail to see how making Jake Scully not a white dude would have made the movie significantly less offensive. The offensive part is–at least, to me–is the colonizer/colonized dynamic. The idea that the colonizer is better (as always) than the tragically doomed, primitive (but oh-so-noble, and spiritual!) colonized. The colonizer is just so damn good that he can beat the natives at their own traditions! Not that the mighty whitey cliche isn’t annoying as fuck, and absolutely the primary manifestation of this bullshit, but making Jake Scully not a white dude wouldn’t have changed the fundamentally imperialist narrative. Basically, all it would have done is given some non-white-dude actor a really high-profile leading role. Which is great! But a completely different topic. It wouldn’t have made the actual meat of the plot any better, or less disgusting. To me, at least.

  25. Paz wrote:

    Sheila – you took the words out of my mouth. It’s an interesting concept, ally vs appropriation, but can an outsider completely give and not take?

  26. Thea Lim wrote:

    @ all Sci-fi fans

    Yes I definitely agree that he (or anyone) could make a sci fi film that used allegory better. I don’t think sci fi – or using an imagined people – means that you can’t draw an allegory which mobilises audiences to care about a real, contemporary issue.

    (One thing I haven’t admitted, out of slight shame, is that as a scifi fan I did enjoy Avatar – as much as I could while muttering to myself about appropriation…)

    For example, a book that I love (and force my students to read every year) is Kindred by Octavia Butler. But you’ll notice that Butler did what I wished Cameron had – she used science fiction to place her character in the past, making enough connections between then and now for the allegory to mean something.

    I agree with Nissa that a big problem is how Avatar depoliticises something so inherently political. And I think you can see that in how, as I said int he OP, it is too farfetched to be able to give cues or ideas about what contemporary earthlings can do.

    I also agree with blah that it wouldn’t have made a difference had Sully not been white (though I wonder if people were arguing that Sully should’ve been Na’vi rather than white, not just a colonist of another earth race?). I think Avatar would’ve had 100% the same effect on me if Sully had been played by Will Smith.

    I mean the optics would’ve been interesting, but it still would’ve been the same message.

    Like how in King Kong (the new one) they made the captain black, potentially in an attempt to make the movie less racist (didn’t work) and how in 2012 (which I ONLY saw because my dad and sister really wanted to see it, I do NOT recommend) the president and some of the high ranking characters were black – and it still had the racial awareness of an 80’s film.

  27. miga wrote:

    @atlasien: agreed. scifi and contemporary concerns are DEFINITELY not mutually exclusive. Many of the most popular sci-fis are actually critiques or discussions of contemporary concerns- they’re just packaged in a way that makes it easier to swallow and can suit the author’s needs. That, in my mind, is what makes Sci fi great! Avatar was unsuccessful, but it doesn’t mean if you want a planet with blue people, you can’t tell an important story and mobilize people at the same time.

  28. luckyfatima wrote:

    I have thought about this issue of ally vs. appropriator, too. It is a very complex issue and I don’t think so black and white. But the thing is that an outsider and ally can choose to care, choose to get involved, choose to see the truth about which is the “right side” to be on. So that choice is a privilege always under the surface of any outsider ally’s alliance. It is also a reason that insiders may be suspicious of outsiders’ support or even reject it. And as you show with your examples of outsider film makers, there are some outsiders who seem deeply engaged in an issue but are actually exploiting it.

  29. Thea Lim wrote:

    @sheila

    I totally agree. I think it is possible for outsiders to write about others stories without it being appropriating (though as other commenters have noticed, no matter what a story’s content, if it does well the writer benefits to a certain amount), but I think that if a writer continually does that without also contributing to projects that try and support marginalised groups access to voice as well, it gets pretty tired.

    I recently learned about Christopher McIlroy, a white writer who writes a lot about characters who are indigenous to the Southwest USA. I like his stories a lot, because they are always very conscious of the political difference between being a white person and being an indigenous person, but as well he started an organisation called ArtsReach which tries to support the voices of young native writers. So that seemed pretty cool.

    But then you have a writer like Dave Eggers, who writes often (very often!) about marginalised groups – for e.g. What is the What, which is the fictionalised memoir of a real Sudanese civil war refugee, and his most recent Zeitoun, which is about a Muslim family during Katrina – and also donates proceeds from his books to community orgs (like the Zeitoun Foundation, which works for human rights of all Americans).

    But! (and I have read neither books) I’ve heard folks say that they didn’t like the way he *used* others story for high literary fame.

    I really think consciousness of your own privilege – especially how that privilege informs your ability to speak and write and be heard when others aren’t – is key here.

    And I think a lot of successful writers don’t like to think about that, because writing is hard, and we don’t like to think about the fact that are success is not just due to our own genius and work, but also due to privilege. I think most successful writers flee that idea.

  30. Terrie wrote:

    @Iggles, I might be more comfortable with your view of things if the Na’vi had come to him and said “You know their resources, and you know how they fight. Hold still while we pick your brain for ideas.” Instead, the Na’vi needed Jake to lead them, because they were shown as being too naive or child-like to make use of the resources at their disposal. Jake was the one saying “Here’s how we’re going to make use of your resources” without a single “Um, hey, we know more about the terrain and our tools than you. So trust us when we tell you it ain’t gonna work.”

  31. Zahra wrote:

    @ Lu & Seadhlinn –

    Co-sign.

    I do think POV is critical to these sci-fi narratives. I haven’t seen Avatar, but it sounds like the story told from the Na’vi’s POV and without the honky savior & noble savage elements would have had all the political resonance and far fewer unfortunate implications.

    Octavia Butler & Nalo Hopkinson have both written stories in which colonized peoples from Earth settle other worlds because imperialism here has left their communities disadvantaged here, and then encounter aliens in a specific political context. The stories build from that ground and reader can’t forget the contemporary implications.

    @ Thea –

    “an attempt to make the film less racist (didn’t work)”

    Wow, way to sum up King Kong in two words. That could have saved three hours of my life.

  32. Bill Campbell wrote:

    To be honest, I never expect much intellectual depth from James Cameron. After all, in Terminator 2, he thought that teaching the android to only permanently maim people with his high-powered automatic weapons instead of killing them was teaching it to “respect human life.”

    As far as Avatar goes, it’s simply another in a long line of “White Messiah” flicks, where we constantly learn that dark folks can only be saved by the benevolence of white people–without any historical regard to why these people may be in the straits they find themselves in in the first place. If Cameron would’ve done something a bit more historical, as you wish, the underlying message would’ve remained the same. He’s not John Sayles, after all.

    Along the lines of “White Messiah” films, you may find this interesting:

    http://bootynovelbill.blogspot.com/2009/12/no-thats-not-point-ms-bullock.html

  33. ireneatuh wrote:

    Thea, thanks for this post – I’ve been reading this blog, btw, since you told me about it, but this my first comment. I’m such a lurker! V. interesting distinction. It hits home for me, as a fellow fiction writer. Writing this novel I think about appropriation vs. allying, my own privilege, etc., all the time. As others have mentioned, yes, there’s always a benefit to the writer no matter the awareness/intentions. I do think, however, that narrative can extend our empathies, at its best, and I worry that if I simply don’t write from the POV of characters whose oppression / history I don’t share, I’ll end up making the work all about the privileged outsider (think Nell Freudenberger’s “Lucky Girls,” ugh, tho’ there are countless more examples). I’d hope fiction could engage thoughtfully with the tension between the center and the margins, challenge assumptions, push buttons, and avoid polarization, via a good story, via characters with whom the reader can relate because they are complex. Yet…even as I say this, I don’t know if I think it’s possible. Because as luckyfatima points out, the outsider/author still has the choice to pick the “right side.” And the choice more generally, to write the novel, to seek publication – again, because of privilege.

    Well, it’s a big topic, and clearly I have to think about it more. Thanks again. Cool to hear about McIlroy, btw. Eggers – ach, I never can decide. He does good work, gives money. Yet the way he uses these stories to gain literary fame, to get patted on the back by a million liberal white readers…it troubles me. Feels disingenuous. Slimy, somehow.

  34. Colin wrote:

    I think it’s possible to tell a sci-fi story with the themes Cameron uses, but do a better job of it. As you say, Cameron appropriates a real genocide to tell this very fictional space opera. He’s not a good writer. But science fiction has been used to address social and political themes before, and rather well I’d say (e.g. 28 Weeks Later, Invasion of the body snatchers). I think the execution depends on who’s making it. Cameron admits to relying on formula, so he’s not the right person for this subject matter (although Aliens and T2 are hands-down two of the best sci-fi movies of all time), but in the right hands, it’s possible to do the subject justice.

  35. Miles Ellison wrote:

    No Hollywood studio would spend 400 million dollars on a film about actual colonial exploitation of non white cultures. And chances are, nobody would watch it if such a film actually got made.

    However, making a 400 million dollar sci-fi allegory that savages imperialism, corporations, the military, and the their increasingly symbiotic relationship while still making money at the box office and receiving no criticism from corporatist, pro militarist conservatives seems like a pretty great trick.

  36. Eurasian Sensation wrote:

    Yes, it does appropriate. Despite all its problems (the white saviour, etc), I think “Avatar” that on balance still comes out in credit as an ally.

    I find the question of “why didn’t Cameron use a real indigenous tribe?” to be a silly one. Primarily it’s because 99% of the people who would go watch “Avatar” do so because of it’s heavily hyped special effects, outer-space theme and fantasy plot. Those people would not go watch a real-life story about an indigenous tribe being exploited and decimated, which would undoubtedly be a significant downer.

    “Avatar” is a clever piece of propaganda; it promises and delivers an easily accessible payload of action, special effects and sci-fi, yet slips a big dose of green and pro-indigenous ideology in along with it. Yes, it could have been done a lot better, but still, I see the effect as positive, on balance.

    So many right-wing ideologues (the kind who are rabidly pro-Western culture and despise environmentalism) absolutely hate the movie and what it stands for. This tells me the movie did something right.

  37. RCHOUDH wrote:

    Interesting discussion going on here. Although I haven’t watched Avatar I have heard enough about it to suspect that Cameron simply appropriated for his own gain the struggles of real indigenous peoples while crafting his billion dollar CGI-laden story. Sure he must have had good intentions towards wanting to bring attention to the current evils in the world (perpetual warfare, environmental degradation and corporate greed among others). But his use of the white savior narrative and noble savage stereotype really downgraded the movie’s potential to really educate people about its underlying morals. That has caused alot of people to dismiss the movie’s underlying themes as the rantings of a “leftist tree hugging liberal” like James Cameron.

  38. Lee wrote:

    In that link to the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples it also says that almost 50 countries abstained or were absent on the vote.