Disney, Twilight and Bollywood: Reinforcing the Purity Myth or Fantasy of Safe Sexual Exploration for Young Girls (and Their Mothers)?

by Guest Contributor Neesha Meminger

The other day, I was surfing aimlessly online and happened upon Jessica Valenti’s most recent book, The Purity Myth: How America’s Obsession With Virginity is Hurting Young Women. Ms. Valenti is the founder and Executive Editor of Feministing.com.

Here is the first paragraph:

There is a moral panic in America over young women’s sexuality–and it’s entirely misplaced. Girls ‘going wild’ aren’t damaging a generation of women, the myth of sexual purity is. The lie of virginity–the idea that such a thing even exists–is ensuring that young women’s perception of themselves is inextricable from their bodies, and that their ability to be moral actors is absolutely dependent on their sexuality. It’s time to teach our daughters that their ability to be good people depends on their being good people, not on whether or not they’re sexually active.

And then this:

More than 1,400 purity balls, where young girls pledge their virginity to their fathers at a promlike event, were held in 2006 (the balls are federally funded) [Emphasis mine]. Facebook is peppered with purity groups that exist to support girls trying to ’save it.’…So while young girls are subject to overt sexual messages every day, they’re simultaneously being taught — by the people who are supposed to care for their personal and moral development, no less–that their only real worth is their virginity and ability to remain “pure.”

I thought about these quotes for days after reading them. For one, the fact that purity balls are federally funded, if indeed they are, blew me away (so that–and new sports stadiums–is where all the education and health care money is!). Valenti’s premise kind of made sense when I thought about Bollywood films and the “no kissing” rule — how some of the most successful Bollywood romances are all about sexual longing and tension within the context of safe, non-sexual relationships. And how the concept of safeguarded virginity seems to be a giant moral marker for young girls around the globe. I can’t remember how often I saw a Bollywood film about the men in a family viciously guarding a young woman’s virginity because the honour and reputation of the entire family rested on the moral purity of that young woman. And if, as in some films, she happened to be raped, the only honourable thing left was for her to take her own life.

I compared this to a DVD I recently succumbed to watching–despite my best intentions. I had tried twice to push through the novel, but did not get past the first 30 pages each time. I know that Twilight has been examined and analyzed on this site and others in terms of its racial content, but that was not the reason I was so disturbed by the film. I was prepared for the racial issues since I read various blog entries on that particular topic. What I was not prepared for was how thoroughly the film capitalized on young female sexuality and the concept of innocence, or as Ms. Valenti might refer to it, purity.

Even though Twilight is not the sort of novel I would immediately pick up, the reason I tried to read it, initially, was because I had done a survey with young South Asian teens and almost every single one of the girls was verging on being obsessed with the male protagonist, Edward, and his romance with the female protagonist, Bella.

I thought then that it might be because Twilight is a romance and many teen girls are hooked on that genre (as was I at that age), and that this was evident in the long-lived popularity of Bollywood, as well.

But after seeing it, I have a whole new understanding of why this film has banked as much revenue as it has. And how closely it resembles Bollywood romance films. The success of Bollywood romance films and novels like Twilight are a huge reflection of their consumers’ needs and wants, as well as the accepted social context within which these stories thrive.

Now, this is nothing new — the budding sexuality and innocence of young girls has been exploited historically by media giants like the Disney corporation for years. Disney princesses have been swooning over their prince saviours and waiting for rescue for decades. These are stories little girls grow up reading and hearing at bedtime and many know by heart. (The effects of these on little girls of colour is a topic that deserves its own post.)

Media images bombard little girls with images of objectified women daily. A visit to your local magazine stand reveals walls of scantily clad women on shiny covers — all offering quick fixes for aging, weight gain, wrinkles, and ways to keep one’s man.

On television, there are pop videos with bikini clad young women grinding and gyrating — a dozen at a time against young moneyed men. All these images are available and accessible to young girls everywhere.

My seven-year-old knows the words to the hit, “Get Low” (a.k.a. Apple Bottom Jeans) by Flo Rida, featuring T-Pain. She sings the song around the house on a regular basis — not because we play it at home (which we do not), but because she hears it at school.

Shawty had them Apple Bottom Jeans [Jeans]

Boots with the fur [With the fur]

The whole club was lookin at her

She hit the flo [She hit the flo]

Next thing you know

Shawty got low low low low low low low low . . .

Work the pole, I got the bank roll

Imma say that I prefer them no clothes

I’m into that, I love women exposed

When I hear these words coming out of the mouth of my seven-year-old, I am distressed beyond words. It is too early. Not that these words wouldn’t be distressing at ANY age, but seven is TOO. EARLY. We have no cable in our home and we do not play music with overtly sexual themes. There are no music videos playing in our home, and there are no magazines with scantily clad women on the covers, draping themselves around well-dressed men flaunting cash.

But, still, I cannot protect my daughter. Whether she knows the meaning of the words or not, they fall easily from her mouth and she knows that her friends at school do the “booty dance” to the beat. She knows that big boys like girls who do that booty dance. And she idolizes the big girls — wants to be like them.

Pair this with the Disney fantasies of rescue by a man, followed by true, everlasting love based on nothing more than a glance, and you have a whole generation of young girls who understand without even being aware of it, that their value is in their physical bodies. A whole generation of young girls who have not had a chance to explore their sexuality gradually, safely, playfully, and above all, innocently.

Enter Twilight. Enter Edward Cullen, the indestructible, all-powerful anti-hero who wants, more than anything else, to protect Bella. In the film version of the novel, images of Bella in danger are juxtaposed with images of a fawn being chased by its predator.

Edward Cullen is morally superior. His is the universal, colossal battle of mastering the beast within. What makes us as a species, different from the animals around us is the fact that we have the capacity to rise above our animal natures. And with Bella, Edward’s struggle meets the ultimate test.

Initially, Edward is only attracted to Bella because of her physicality: her smell. This then turns into an inexplicable urge to protect her. So, in this relationship, Bella is safe, protected fiercely, cherished, and her innocence is allowed free roam. She is a child on the cusp of womanhood, exploring her sexuality, her sensuality, her womanchild-ness.

Edward cherishes her fragility and innocence, even as it causes him great pain. At the expense of his own basic, animal hunger, he offers her a safe place to explore her budding sexuality.

And this is key: their relationship can never become sexual. Even a simple kiss requires Herculean effort and self-restraint on Edward’s part. If they were to go “too far,” Edward could lose self control and consume the very innocence he cherishes in Bella. He could kill her.

The final scene, with Edward lifting Bella onto his feet and dancing under the lights of the gazebo at her prom, is the ultimate little-girl-in-daddy’s-arms fantasy — safe, protected, cherished…still innocent. And if we take it a step further based on Valenti’s quote above, still “pure.”

In a world where little girls are bombarded with images of sexuality before they lose all of their baby teeth, that rare place of safety where innocence and wonder are alive is more than enticing. It is an intense need that never gets met. And it is a need that stays alive with yearning, with longing, well into womanhood.

Teen girls especially, on the cusp of womanhood, who have grown past the Cinderella stories (but not the need for them) are looking for a space to explore their burgeoning, often overwhelming sexuality — and Edward Cullen, Bollywood films, and romance novels, provide just that space and that escape.

Purity balls, on the other hand, treat a young girl’s virginity like a prized and fragile crystal ornament that needs protection and safeguarding — much like Bella needs protection and safeguarding from the vampires and wolves who would consume her.

Stephanie Meyer has capitalized on the one niche that Disney and women’s romance novels left open: the hunger for teen girls (and their mothers) for a safe place to explore the wonder and excitement of their own sexuality.

Mature (and by this, I am not referring to age, but personal emotional and spiritual evolution) adults see sexuality as a connected and spiritual part of a whole. There is no requirement that makes it necessary for men to view sexuality through a mature, adult lens. On the contrary; men all over the world have easy access to prostitution, porn magazines and videos, strip clubs, and the constant validation of objectified, dismembered images of women’s bodies in mainstream media. This renders Edward’s protection and adoration not only swoon-worthy, but an absolute craving–verging on obsession–for women, young and old alike.

And until things change in our world, the kind of safe, protected, innocent spaces that Disney and Edward Cullen provide will remain myths and fantasies that earn the creators — Walt Disney, Stephanie Meyer, et al — many joyful trips to the bank. And phenomenon like purity balls will not only continue to exist, but will be upheld and staunchly defended by those they most subjugate.

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Comments

  1. Natasha wrote:

    “Twilight” is probably the most misogynist book series of this decade. Seriously, I would rather my (hypothetical) daughter listen gangsta rap than read that trash. The fact that abusive, controlling, stalking and misogynist Edward Cullen character is so popular with young girls (and grown up women!) horrifies me.

  2. Deaf Indian Muslim Anarchist ! wrote:

    Bollywood makes me sick, it’s sexist, racist, homophobic and extremely classist. Bollywood is full of HYPOCRITES who put scantily clad women (mostly WHITE females, because you see, Bollywood thinks dark skinned women are UGLY) in revealing clothes, dancing with men, while they mold the female protagonist as a “virginal” good girl who would never do that. It makes me so goddamned ANGRY!!!

    Twilight makes me sick, too. The 1st film was OK (I never read the books) and I saw NEW MOON a few days ago. I was angry and pissed off how Bella spent most of her time crying and cooped up in her bedroom over some stupid boy. I wanted to scream “GET A FUCKING LIFE!’ at the screen.

    American society is full of double standards. Porn stars are celebrated, yet female celebrities (with leaked sex tapes) are labelled WHORES and SLUTS. Women in college are being told to take their tops off and make out with other girls, yet when a woman announces she’s in charge of her own sexuality, she is a WHORE!!!!!!!

  3. LaTonya wrote:

    Neesha,

    Great analysis. I wish we could adults and teen girls to see that Twilight is no more right for us than what we think is the polar opposite. The truth is, neither extreme serves us. When will we get that?

  4. Sulagna wrote:

    This article is excellent, although I wish you could’ve gone more in depth. You could have pointed out more specific scenes and movies for your Bollywood comparison, especially with recent Bollywood movies.

    I feel like the whole idea of sexual longing within a non-sexual relationship is something that appeals to both men and women in the audience. Just as women see the relationship as a safe haven for their sexuality from being judged, men see it as a safe haven from their sexuality being questioned as unwanted, or not allowed.

  5. Keith wrote:

    Theirs one thing you left out, and that’s how virginity = purity seems to exclude women of color.

    Mod Note
    – In the US, perhaps, but Neesha also includes Bollywood in her analysis, widening the scope. – LDP

  6. Keith wrote:

    I was referring to the States since I don’t watch Bollywood movies.

  7. Tamara wrote:

    More than 1,400 purity balls, where young girls pledge their virginity ‘to their fathers’ at a promlike event…

    *blinks*

    I’ve yet to get into Twilight and honestly don’t think I ever ‘could’. I’m glad you all are posting; I’m enjoying these articles. Keep ‘em coming. I have nothing constructive to add to ‘this’ discussion only my…

    *blinks*

    at the above quote. ;)

  8. ashlynn wrote:

    Tamara, keep blinking, girl- I’m doing the same thing!

    What probably bugs me most about purity balls is that these girls aren’t pledging their virginity to THEMSELVES, but to their FATHERS.

    WHY WOULD I OWE MY FATHER MY VIRGINITY?

    I mean, am I supposed to give it to him? That, to be frank, would be incest. Would not having it make me less of a person in his eyes? And even then, why should I give a damn about what my father thinks about MY body and my personal decisions? Because the balls aren’t about being safe and healthy- that, I could understand why my father would care about- they’re about maintaining your only perceived sense of worth and value, and without that, your father, or any other man (and even woman for that matter) cannot freely, openly, shamelessly exploit you for his own satisfaction/greed/profit.

    Now, back to blinking, except with an added smdh.

  9. Keith wrote:

    @ashlynn – Yeah the idea saving it for daddy is like something you would see in a porno flick. I’m not sure why women having free will to do with their bodies as they please is such a threat to American culture.

  10. Phil Deeze wrote:

    @ Keith:
    In the antebellum South, a white woman’s sexuality, virtue and her willingness to be placed on a pedestal got quite a few black men in a whole HEAP of trouble. By looking at it. By partaking in it.
    You could even say that putting something on a pedestal is part of the reason that possessing a white woman’s sexuality is considered, by some black men, as a status symbol as well as a thumb in the eye for a society that would make that triangular-shaped piece of priceless real estate unattainable. And that anything less than wanton physical coercion or the black man’s sexual prowess, and never love or respect or societal acceptance, would be enough for him to attain it.

  11. Fiqah wrote:

    I am chuckling at ashlynn and Tamara’s reaction. I first learned of purity balls back in 2005, when they kinda became a “thing” in parts of the South. (I guess they’re the New Fun Thing. All the pageantry of a cotillion ball and none of that pesky etiquette training. LMAO.)

    SKEEVITUDE BONUS: Apparently, the perennially creepy “Butterfly Kisses” is played in heavy rotation at these things. Yep.

  12. Phil Deeze wrote:

    @ Fiqah,
    You know what’s funny about these new-fangled “virginity balls/chastity balls,” etc.? Their parents came out into society and the likely did the nasty in the back of a Studebaker. But no, don’t let your daughter give her up.
    And that creepy “Butterfly Kisses” song? It’s disgusting. I have a co-worker that’s ultra-conservative and expects his daughter to wait until she’s married and doesn’t want her to get married until she’s 30 and takes every opportunity to say as much. Another co-worker’s daughter got married at 25, and the first thing this asshat said was, “If it was my daughter…..” and three other co-workers said, at the same time, “But it’s NOT your daughter, so relax, Blood. Take a valium.”
    I got stuck with this jerk on a business trip, and he said similar things, and I said “if you’re lockin’ it, you’re losin’ it,” so he filed a sexual harassment claim against me. He said that he didn’t want me talking about his daughter’s sexuality. The company ruled that his continual harping on his religious beliefs in the workplace constituted a toxic work environment, and while they wouldn’t/couldn’t fire him, they did re-assign him. And, yes, he loves that stupid “Butterfly Kisses” song.
    I think some of this “virginity ball” stuff is just some fathers that want to control their daughter’s vagina because they have latent feelings that since they “created it,” they can dominate it. There’s “other” stuff going on, but I don’t want to call these “men” out about it. They are sick, though, and probably need to have their heads examined.

  13. Lianne wrote:

    This is a really interesting piece; though I should add that I’ve not seen or read either the film or book. And that is out of deliberate evasion, rather than living under a culture-less rock. I’m also mildly concerned that fellow women my age (early twenties) are obsessed with this Edward character.

    The few people I know who have offered an intelligent interpretation of either have told me that there is a thinly-veiled borderline misogynist abstinence message throughout which most girls and women swooning merrily over the safely neutered Edward figure seem to have missed.

    Thanks for guaranteeing that I don’t give in to the hype and give these people my money to make more of this harmful tripe. =)

  14. ashlynn wrote:

    Last comment, but after looking up the Butterfly Kisses lyrics, I feel like anyone who even HUMS that should be put on the neighborhood watchdog list. y u c k.

  15. Mango Spaces wrote:

    I’m not sure what I would say if my Dad ever asked me to pledge my virginity to him. It would ensue a few moments of hilarity however, I can guarantee that.
    “Purity” is an interesting term. Why does there have to be a double standard, though? If there are purity balls for women, shouldn’t there also be something of the sort for young men?
    Is it okay for young men to be promiscuous, yet not for young women? That, I don’t really understand. I heard a “riddle” that reminded me of this predicament though.

    A young man and his father are driving along a highway. It’s night, and an animal runs across the road. The father slams on the breaks and their car is decimated by a semi. The father dies instantly, but the son is rushed to the ER. They needed to operate on him immediately. Suddenly the surgeon looks down in shock, exclaiming “That’s my son!” How is this possible?

    Are you stumped yet? Females can be surgeons. It was his mother. I don’t think I’ve met one person who’s gotten the answer to that.

  16. Genevieve wrote:

    @Mango spaces
    There are balls for boys. They’re called “integrity balls,” and the whole idea behind them is “don’t sleep with someone else’s future wife!” So while they’re talking to the boys, they’re still focused on female purity.
    Never mind that, as in the quotes from Valenti in the original post, boys are still being told that their worth is in their personal morals/ethics/values (”integrity”) and girls’ is in whether they are sexual or not (”purity”).

  17. Eva wrote:

    I think the reason so many people are into these “purity balls” is because they grew up when I did, in the 1970’s and I can tell you, most of the girls in my all woman’s Catholic college were not virgins, in fact a good percentage of them already had had at least one abortion and one I knew had given a baby up for adoption.

  18. Lola wrote:

    the purity/integrity balls remind me of these bible study groups on campus, the “men of vision” and “women of virtue” notice how the men are going somewhere in life and the women are just sitting around being virgins

  19. Seattle Slim wrote:

    GREAT post! I think the juxtaposition of virginity vs promiscuity is a serious problem.

  20. Marc Singer wrote:

    I have a slightly different take on “princesses.”

    “Twilight” troubles me just like everyone else here. “Twilight” is sexist and sex-negative and puritanical and ugly, I agree.

    Disney, however, deserves a fairer view. Disney princesses have evolved along with society. Tiana in the new movie “The Princess and the Frog” is focused on opening a restaurant of her own, she just gets mixed up with the prince by accident and never gives up her entrepreneurial dream. The Little Mermaid wants to live on land for many reasons that have nothing to do with her prince charming. Yes, a “princess” is almost by definition “girly,” but is being “girly” necessarily wrong for everyone? Can’t one be girly and also strong or smart or creative or something else?

    Disney has heroines as well as princesses, btw. The new Tinker Bell movies show a very strong-willed young woman who’s definitely not focused on romance. She’s an engineer (seriously) who helps her fellow pagan fairies (male and female) change the seasons in nature, that’s their main job. In the new film there’s a fairy boy who has a crush on Tinker Bell, and she barely has time for him. She’s too busy “tinkering” — which wins her the admiration of her fairy suitor and the matriarchal Fairy Queen.

    Disney has created some sexist fantasies, but it’s also dreamed up some strong women and now even a strong princess who’s African-American and a business proprietor!

  21. Marc Singer wrote:

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    I have a slightly different take on “princesses.”

    “Twilight” troubles me just like everyone else here. “Twilight” is sexist and sex-negative and puritanical and ugly, I agree.

    Disney, however, deserves a fairer view. Disney princesses have evolved along with society. Tiana in the new movie “The Princess and the Frog” is focused on opening a restaurant of her own, she just gets mixed up with the prince by accident and never gives up her entrepreneurial dream. The Little Mermaid wants to live on land for many reasons that have nothing to do with her prince charming. Yes, a “princess” is almost by definition “girly,” but is being “girly” necessarily wrong for everyone? Can’t one be girly and also strong or smart or creative or something else?

    Disney has heroines as well as princesses, btw. The new Tinker Bell movies show a very strong-willed young woman who’s definitely not focused on romance. She’s an engineer (seriously) who helps her fellow pagan fairies (male and female) change the seasons in nature, that’s their main job. In the new film there’s a fairy boy who has a crush on Tinker Bell, and she barely has time for him. She’s too busy “tinkering” — which wins her the admiration of her fairy suitor and the matriarchal Fairy Queen.

    Disney has created some sexist fantasies, but it’s also dreamed up some strong women and now even a strong princess who’s African-American and a business proprietor!

  22. Dorla Moorehouse wrote:

    Great analysis!

    Yet another reason why I will not read or watch the Twilight books/movies. I feel like I’ve gotten my fill just from the critiques of people who have the patience to deal with that stuff.

  23. Kiran wrote:

    I’m surprised no one has brought up the scene in the third book(?) where Jacob bascially forces himself on Bella. The ‘my father owns my sexuality’ themes in that scene were crazy. Her father basically gave Jacob the go to kiss her, when it was clear that she was not willing. I honestly don’t know what kind of message that sends girls. “Well, it’s okay if a guy tries to assualt you as long as your father approves”

  24. John from Sweden wrote:

    So I found this by a link somewhere. And I just… I never usually think about this kind of stuff, I just casually recognize how wrong it is.

    But yeah. It all makes me so ANGRY. At humanity, I mean. Why does it have to be this way. And why can it never change. Is it built into our genes? This is my generation that’s getting f***ed up by this stuff.

    I think I’m going to be become asexual, and move somewhere far from everyone else. I can’t stand it.

  25. Westerly wrote:

    Marcs Slinger wrote:
    “Disney has created some sexist fantasies, but it’s also dreamed up some strong women and now even a strong princess who’s African-American and a business proprietor!”

    Yeah – who unlike any other Disney princess in the history of the franchise spends a vast majority of the film…being a frog!

    Yay. Black characters as animals. Woot. How’s that for “progress”?

    The problem I have with your ‘take’ is that it you’re so busy fixating on non-dilemmas concerning ‘girliness’ that you completely divorce Disney’s sexism from it’s horrible racism. (And the two are informed by one another.) The fact that they have struggled for their entire history to present a single dark-skinned character speaks volumes.

    Anyway, I see no point in praising Disney’s feeble, fumbling efforts at female representation when you have well-rounded, intelligent, competent female characters like Toph, Suki, and Katara from the Avatar series? Other forms of animation aren’t backward-ass like Disney so why exhort people to hand them a cookie just for being marginally less abominable than they usually are?

    There is so much better stuff out there, and so many possibilities that frankly, I see no reason to give a shit about Disney.

    Re: Bollywood. The more I see, the more I think “Mills and Boon” and the more I dislike. Once you get past the elaborate sets, costumes, and song-and-dance routines, and some scintillating Rahman beats, there are some deeply ugly, screwed-up politics.

    I recently saw a Bollywood film called “Fashion” – no singing, dancing, or musical routines. But I couldn’t help but notice that it had a scene that reminded me of Soderbergh’s “Traffic.”

    To cut a long story short: Small town Indian girl (Priyanka Chopra) goes to the big city to become a model. She ends up screwing a married man, has an abortion, turns into drunk and is caught on a drink driving charge, and then sniffs a lot of coke.

    But all of that is nothing until she has a one-night stand with a *gasp* black man (the only black person in the entire film) Suddenly, she hits a moral crisis point where she freaks out and can no longer look at herself in the mirror, and runs back home to Mum and Dad. *eyeroll*

    Blech. Hollywood is loathsome, but I don’t expect South, North or East Asian cinema to be much better when it comes to black representation.

    As for “Twilight”? I agree with the OP that it’s the flip-side to the overt hyper-sexualisation of women. It still reduces a woman down to sex.

  26. Ilse wrote:

    I totally agree on the Twilight & Disney theme but do not flow along with your Bollywood analysis. Bollywood is not a genre but an industry. It’s not a franchise, it’s a market.

    I do admit that movies like the homophobic “Dostana” or the mysogynistic beauty and the beast theme of “Rab ne bana di Jodi” (amongst others) are not something India should be proud of. But there are some gems there, too!

    Movies like “Chak De India” who have an utterly feminist theme about girls/women living their passion fully and freeing themselves from their family’s obligations, for instance. A movie where the diversity theme as well, is put forward, where the unity of a country is proved by bonding it’s diversity.
    I admit that there is some stereotyping of the different Indian regions but you have to admit that there are not many Indian movies who feature representatives from this many various regions at the same time (you’ve got Utar, Madhya and Andhra Pradesh, Punjab,Bihar, Jharkhand, Mizoram,…)

    Or movies like “Kabhi Kushi” where the erotic tension between both protagonists is not the number one topic but where family values are put forward, a topic you would have a hard time finding in Hollywood. And where Kajol’s role is one of equity with her husband’s, where Kareena Kapoor indeed chases the guy but where their flirting game seems equitable to me.

    What troubles me is that we are watching through an occidentalised view of feminism and it’s topics. We focus on purity-myths, on sexual liberation and general equity. The feminist fight in India touches other topics. Over there, sexual freedom can mean the power of choosing one’s partner instead of having family choose for her (or even him, for that matter, let’s push equity to it’s rightfull limit). A feminist topic is presented in Kal Ho Na Ho where a widow is supporting her mother-in-law who treats her like a pariah for various reasons. But the widow is loved and respected by all other members of her community. This is rather exceptionnal, if I believe. Widows have not that many appreciation in Indian culture.

    Or look at the most recent “Billu (barber)” where the topic is, once again, not one of the classical love themes. It’s a story of friendship surviving, trust in parents, integrity, village cohesion, overthrowing village backtalk,… a story where the director of the school is a woman. A woman being alone on top of an all-male board. And I indeed giggled at the silly, useless item-songs but hey, they are not too harmful.

    What positively surprises me in some Bollywood movies, and what could be put forward in a blog like Racialicious, is the religious peace that is sometimes put forward.

    Terrorism is indeed a regular Bollywood theme but there are as many movies where friends or family co-exist even if they don’t share the same beliefs and religions. A religious tolerance in a very “matter-of-fact” atmosphere. Isn’t that interesting?

    Our Western eyes are appalled to see the mix and contrast between old values of female purity and skimpy women dancing in item-songs of any random Bollywood movie but please don’t forget that a lot of India’s youngsters look up to Hollywood, to Vin Diesel and Britney Spears for examples and references. How many Hollywood movies have been remade Bollywood style? “Dhoom” being one of the first, copying the “Fast and Furious” catastrophy, with the first “Chikdum” song being such a rape-promoting song.

    But even then, Bollywood can be amazing, too. Look at “Om Shanti Om” where it is SRK himself who mocks this habit of objectifying women in item-songs by objectifying himself in this movie’s item song.

    My point is that Bollywood shouldn’t be generalized. As I told you, Bollywood is not a genre, it has good and it has bad. It has horrifying and it has sheer beauty. I am happy that my baby is dancing to “Bole Chudiyan” where men and women equally court one another, and I also happily destroyed the infamous “Dostana” DVD after having watched only five minutes of it.

    Finally, I’d like to stress that India is a country where babies are still suffocated when they turn out to be girls and where FGM is still an active practice. Their feminist fight is not the same. I do not deny the fact that the topic of female purity needs to loose it’s aggressive, incestuous power, but they have more fights to fight than we do.

  27. Nina Hirji wrote:

    @ Marc Singer:

    some links for you on the “evolution” of disney’s princesses:

    http://www.newint.org/easier-english/Disney/diswomen.html

    http://www.mit.edu/~thistle/v9/9.09/8pocahontas.html

    http://www.ubcpress.ca/books/pdf/chapters/2007/CinematicHowling.pdf

  28. mieko wrote:

    Some of the creepier Twilight merchandise out there: http://io9.com/5407713/the-30-most-disturbing-twilight-products/gallery/

    Highlights include:

    Edward silhouette wall decal (have your own vampire stalker watch you sleep!)
    Vampire flavored Pringles (WTF?!?!)
    Twilight panties, complete with Edward’s mouth on the INSIDE of the crotch. (EWWWW)
    Sparkly Edward dildo (…)

    So much for purity…

  29. Marc Singer wrote:

    I agree that Disney has represented diversity less than others in the past, but it’s worth recognizing how far they’ve come and how much good stuff they’ve always created in various ways.

    I suggest people check out Disney’s “Wendy Wu: Homecoming Warrior” (about a high school girl who gets in touch with her Chinese-American roots and gets stronger as a result), “Jump In” (about an African-American teen girl jump rope champion who helps a boy boxer drop his macho facade and jump rope with her), “Twitches” (magical African-American sisters save the world), “The Hunchback of Notre Dame” (gypsy heroine Esmeralda fights racism & prejudice) and “Mulan” (from the Chinese folktale about a woman warrior) for a more nuanced view of Disney.

    I’m not saying they’re perfect (who is?), but there’s no reason to be totally negative, either.

  30. mieko wrote:

    Piggybacking off of Marc- Disney Channel has done some good work in promoting diversity in terms of race and body-type. I’m glad to see they have healthy-looking people on the show, and not just sticks (I’m looking at you, Nickelodeon!)

    I’d still never want to be a part of that corporation…and I still hate the tween-starlett-machine…but I gotta give props to Disney on some accounts…

  31. Neesha Meminger wrote:

    Readers might be interested in this documentary on Disney’s corporate takeover of culture, and how it has perpetuated misogynist, racist, and homophobic stereotypes since its inception:
    Mickey Mouse Monopoly, http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=112

    Even the 5-minute trailer is informative and quite illuminating.

    The entire film can be viewed here for free, I believe:
    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=28004

  32. jess wrote:

    @ Phil Deeze:

    I can understand why your co-worker didn’t want you talking about his daughter’s sexuality. Hell, I usually get annoyed with the way men talking about women/girls’ sexuality. Come on, priceless piece of real estate?? Possessing a woman’s sexuality (I thought that was the problem in the first place?)? What, is a father “controlling his daughter’s vagina” keeping other men from getting to control it?

    Another thing that frustrates me is the way some men are all about women expressing their sexuality (which benefits them*), but then have a problem/stay silent when it comes to women gaining other types of equality.

    *curious, has anyone else ever heard a guy say that “sluts” are great because they help him get laid?

  33. Nissas wrote:

    @Ilse

    I have to respectfully disagree with you about Bollywood. Whilst there are some good films put out here and there, most of it is just pants.
    Kajol’s role was not one of equity with Shah Rukh, she was a stereotypical homemaker, from a ‘lesser’ background who he saved from being without a male protector.
    That film was offensive to British people imo, especially the way they showed British Asians in ‘King’s college’.

    Women in general in Bollywood are sidelined and don’t carry the films like they used to (Golden age of Madhubala and Meena Kumari!) or even as they do in the indie films. Women are heavily sexualised, but the purity factor does remain and in a country that does have major gender imbalances films that suggest marrying your rapist is a good thing (admittedly that Anil Kapoor film was about ten years ago but still!) or sexually harassing a woman gets you a hottie (any Emraan Hashmi film!) is just wrong!
    Women do not assert their sexuality in positive ways and all the flesh is just gratuitous, that includes the men.

    Religious peace is sometimes put forward, but mostly Muslims are stereotyped and there are far more films that are blatantly offensive and misleading about Islam in India. Even films that seemingly portray harmony eg. Amar, Akbar, Anthony do so by seriously compromising Islamic practices such as having characters sing and worship idols (albeit Muslim saints).
    Baddies that are Muslim are always woman hating pervs, interreligious marriages always have the girl as Muslim (when they don’t the Muslim male did something very questionable to get the Hindu/Sikh girl), many films are hugely anti-Pakistan and also really rude about British Asians (painted as coconuts or out of control).

    if I was to write about how gender and religion interact in a lot of very popular films like Gadar and the many newer films about Muslim terrorism I would end up writing and very long essay! Ultimately, the point I wanted to make is that Bollywood is a disgrace when it comes to Muslims and also women…

    I get that the films are escapist, but a little social responsibility wouldn’t go amiss!

  34. Neesha Meminger wrote:

    @ Ilse: if you ever get the chance (and you haven’t already), please visit the blog Ultra Violet. It is the blog of Indian feminists living in India. You’ll find that many of their struggles are almost exactly the same as “ours” (women of colour living in the west).

    The bottom line is always control over our lives and destinies, control over our bodies, and the perpetual fight to be heard, valued, and respected. Of course, there is always the fight to live free of fear/free of violence, have equal access to resources, and pursue an independent livelihood.

    And this: “but they have more fights to fight than we do.” I must respectfully disagree with. The fights are different. Bollywood, like Hollywood, is not an ally to feminists. And just as Disney has some less than horrible depictions–mostly as a result of pressure for better PR–so does Bollywood. Both of these are corporate media giants. Their primary goal is to make money. Not uplift women, PoC, LGBTQ folks, differently abled folks, or anyone else who falls outside of the accepted norms they create in their products.

    Bollywood, Hollywood, Twilight, Disney…all produce cultural products en masse, helping to shape the consciousness and psychology of young people. That is *a lot* of power to put in the hands of a few. It is a healthy impulse to critique it, challenge it, voice objections, and demand something better.

  35. Deborah Kelly wrote:

    I remember when Disney’s “Hunchback. . .” came out. I have always disliked Disney because of Walt’s overt bigotry. My brother-in-law took my young daughter and me to see it. In the next theatre over was playing “Striptease” starring Demi Moore. Hers was also the voice of Esmerelda in “Hunchback,” where there was a scene involving Esmerelda dancing with a soldier’s spear, rather like the pole dance being performed in the next theatre. Esmerelda (clearly a woman of color) was wholly sexualized and the priest threatened to kill her if she did not agree to have sex with him. The sexual violence in that movie hit me so hard that it was the last Disney movie I allowed my child to see. One need only compare Disney’s females of color with the white ones to see that Walt’s legacy of hate is still very much alive. (Disney was also one of the entities involved in “Pretty Woman” where prostitution is blatantly romanticized.