Allure’s “Faces of the Future” Promotes Stereotypes About Mixed People

by Latoya Peterson

Alongside the tragic mulatto myth, the idea that being mixed is somehow “futuristic” or modern, and the idea that mixed people will be better, faster, and stronger (also called the “hybrid vigor” myth), one of the enduring features about discussions of mixed race individuals is that “hotness” always surfaces.

Allure serves up a double dose of stereotypes, weaving hotness and hybrid vigor into one creepy, objectifying article  called “Faces of the Future.”  In their November 2009 issue, writer Rebecca Mead fawns over biracial superbabies and more specifically, the wonderful aesthetic of mixed race people. After starting off with statistics about the 6.8 million Americans who self-identified as mixed on the last census, the article launches right into dehumanization:

Take, for example, Alicia Thacker, a 27-year-old public-school teacher whom Marilyn Minter has been photographing for nearly a decade, ever since Thacker completed a painting class that Minter was teaching in New York City. Thacker, who has pale skin, freckles, full lips, and a vast cloud of curly hair, is part Barbadian, part German, part Irish, part Creole, part Scottish, part African American, and part Blackfoot. (People usually think she is Hispanic, the one thing she isn’t.) In short, it didn’t take a melting pot to create Thacker – more like a full scale chemistry laboratory.

A chem lab? Really? She’s a human being, not a compound. And I’m not sure that sex counts as biological tinkering.

The photographer, Minter (who also provided the photos to Allure to accompany the article) also shares some of the fetish-based zeal as the writer:

Minter thinks women like Thacker “are more interesting looking humans – they are extraordinary-looking, and so much more beautiful than the flawless blue eyed blonds,” [...]

That was revealing. Minter adds a double reinforcement of the ultimate beauty standard – blue eyed blonds are “flawless” but mixed people are “interesting.” I stopped that quote early, but Mead picks up with:

[...] says the photographer, whose other subjects in the portfolio include Victoria Brito, who is Brazilian and Austrian – and looks as blonde as an Alpine maiden and at the same time as sultry as the girl from Ipanema; Melissa Kurland, who is part German and part Filipina; and green-eyed Nell Robinson, whose name is English sounding but whose heritage is also Jamican, Portuguese, and Hispanic.

After spending a few paragraphs trumpeting the soon to be dominance of the mixed-race aesthetic, Mead ends, saying:

Perhaps a time will arrive when faces such as hers are seen not so much as beautifully extraordinary, but simply as extraordinarily beautiful.

I know it seems a little counter-intuitive to be upset about an article that highlights a type of beauty outside of mainstream ideal, but the overemphasis on mixed race beauty is both a fetish and a positive stereotype.

Also, the tone of the article starts to become a bit more sinister when you like at what type of beauty is highlighted. Almost all of the models featured would easily pass the paper bag test (Victoria Brito is a possible exception), and most boast small noses and full lips, and lots of hair (both curly and straightened), things that still fit into standard beauty ideals. A while ago, Carmen and I discussed body image and race on ATR, and Carmen mentioned something that always stuck with me. She said that one of the things she noticed growing up mixed race in Hong Kong was that many of the compliments given to her were based on her features that were closer to white. In many ways, this article reinforces that idea, especially given the common misconception that mixed race equals white plus other. Not only does Mead erase mixed race people who do not fit these paradigms of beauty, but also feeds the idea that mixed race people are apolitical beings whose main contribution to society is their appearance.

I don’t think its too much to ask to work toward a beauty standard that is inclusive of all types of beauty – not a half-assed acceptance based on fetishes and stereotypes.

(Pictured: Melissa Kurland)

More Myths About Mixed Race People, from the Mixed Media Watch Vault

20/20 Gimme a Break (Tragic Mulatto Myth)
ATR 5 (Carmen’s Rant on the Tragic Mulatto Myth)
Exotic: Nicole Scherzinger (On the overuse of the word exotic)
When mixed race identity is used to further racism (How our discussions about race are inadequate)
What’s black and white and sad all over? (Tragic Mulatto Myth)
Are we all going to be latte? (Representations)
Zadie Smith is ‘not that multicultural’ (Zadie Smith confronts stereotypes)
Cashing in on a mixed kid’s fair skin (Colorism)
“Mixed” = advantageous (On assumptions that mixed people are trying to deny their “dark side”)
Mixed people will fix racism, right?
“Real people” = mixed people? (on ideas of representation)
Half Asian is the new white? (Hybrid Vigor)
Hyphen takes a look at “the Multiracial Dream”
Hybrid vigor in Sports Illustrated
Scientifically beautiful!? (Using “science” to promote positive stereotypes)

And Carmen’s talk, Cute But Confused: Myths and Realities About Mixed Race Identity:

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Comments

  1. Brooke wrote:

    It sort of smacks of the “REAL women have curves” trope – at first glance, it sounds positive, but once you examine it for a few more seconds, it starts to stink.

  2. atlasien wrote:

    Sounds like an absolutely horrible article…

    It’s depressing the bodies/faces of mixed-race people are used as human dividing lines to express anxieties about race, and to police racial boundaries.

    I’d like to exist socially as a human being, not just as living proof of a faux-scientific concept, or a Mr.-Potato-Head type of being with parts glued together from different races.

  3. Cindy wrote:

    Don’t you think this goes along with the black face Vogue photographs? Color is beautiful as long it is overlain on white features message.

  4. sarah wrote:

    One point I’d like to add is that there is nothing new about “mixing.” It’s not like anybody was of “pure race” until recently. People have been “mixing” for thousands of years. Many communities of color in this country already have some kind of multiethnic heritage due to the legacy of colonization, rape, and/or slavery. It’s just that the circumstances under which people can mix have now changed.

  5. Seattle Slim wrote:

    The young lady pictured above reminds me of the protagonist of Heavenly Sword, a video game featuring a scantily clad, red headed, freckled faced, Japanese princess. It was odd. It was like they couldn’t have her be a Japanese princess, she had to look like she was Irish, too.

    Great game, but that bothered me.

    The article is condescending.

  6. BSK wrote:

    Brooke-

    Can you talk more about your exception to the “Real women…” ads? I always perceived them as positive, but also never thought too much about them. I’m curious to hear alternate perspectives.

  7. n wrote:

    I hated the article and especially the photos.
    And futuristic? I have photos of both my grandmothers grandmothers, and they happen to look just like my kids. 6 generations- nothin new here.

  8. Erika wrote:

    The absolutism of this article really does parallel the “real women have curves” trope.

    (BSK — I know you were addressing Brooke, but to me, the “real women ___” spiel is sexist as well as insulting because there are no such thing as “fake” women. I particularly am not fond of “real women have curves” because it seems to reinforce the idea that if you don’t have boobs or hips, you’re not “womanly”.)

    I am not at all fond of the article, by the way. It’s creepy how it exotifies and commodifies mixed-race people. The stuff about “flawless blue-eyed blondes” just makes it creepier. Ugh.

    I might very well have a mixed-race child in the future, and it bothers me that they are going to be seen in that way.

  9. atlasien wrote:

    @BSK:

    The problem with “real women have curves” is that it just reverses unrealistic beauty standards without challenging them.

    For example, I don’t have a fashion model build at all (I’m a size 10/12) and I don’t have that many curves, either. I’m broad-shouldered and built like a tall rectangular block. I’m happy with my body type, and I’m also a “real” woman.

  10. Brooke wrote:

    @BSK: there are lots of women who don’t have curves, through no more fault of their own than the ones who do. In trying to be uplifting, it essentially just sets up yet another beauty standard that some people will never be able to meet. Women who don’t have curves aren’t fake, they’re not not-women.

    It seems parallel to the strange quote from the article at issue, “they are extraordinary-looking, and so much more beautiful than the flawless blue eyed blonds.” Here, again, it’s setting up a new standard that’s opposite, I guess, from the original standard, but it’s putting down the original group in order to lift up the newer, and at the same time just replacing one standard that some people will simply never be able to meet with another.

    Or, in short, it’s trying to be progressive but instead is simply replicating the problem rather than exploding this notion of hierarchies of beauty.

  11. BSK wrote:

    It’s also interesting how they seemed to accentuate her eyes with the make-up. It’s as if they are also trying to make her look Asian, though she doesn’t list that as part of her heritage. But, hey, it *looks* cool, right?

  12. Joy-Mari Cloete wrote:

    Eep, the writer should come visit Cape Town, home to a big ‘mixed race’ community. Some of us resemble our Xhosa forbears; others resemble our Khoi forbears; and yet others can pass for white. I guess the writer was just too smitten with the ‘exotic’ looks and forgot to do actual research.

  13. K wrote:

    @ BSK:

    I’m not Brooke, but I can comment on some of the negative aspects of said ads. Declaring that “real women have curves” completely negates the womanhood of any woman-identified person who isn’t shapely or curvy in one narrow sense of the word. It’s not cool to define something as broad as womanhood because it just creates yet another box that we have to fit in, lest we not be “real” women.

  14. Joy-Mari Cloete wrote:

    @BSK: All stereotypes are bad, even the ‘Real women have curves’ type of ‘good stereotypes’. If we say something like ‘Real women have curves’, does that mean that women who do not fit this version, ie, they are either obese or athletic, are not ‘real women’?

    Consider the ‘good stereotype’ of ‘All Asian women are sweet and very, very bright’. It’s a feel-good stereotype, eh? But what about women who do not fit such a rigid mould?

    Imagine what life is like for a young Asian student activist whose grades are just OK? The feel-good stereotype doesn’t allow her to be her own person; instead, she needs to conform if she wants an easier life: work harder at her grades and keep her mouth shut about everything so that no-one thinks she’s ‘unfeminine’.

  15. Shiyiya wrote:

    BSK, that was exactly my thought about the makeup. They’re trying to make her look as EXOTIC!!!! as possible, I suppose.

  16. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    @BSK –

    Most other folks answered from the gender perspective – we also examined the phrase from a racial perspective here:

    http://www.racialicious.com/2007/02/21/real-women-of-color-have-curves/

    The model pictured is Kurland – she’s Filipina and German.

  17. Persephone wrote:

    creeeeeeeeeepy.

    This reminds me of a super awkward forum discussion I saw recently. Two very popular posters are a married couple in which the wife is black and the husband is white and Jewish. In a little side-note to the discussion, the wife made a joke about how they’ve been wanting kids lately, and her husband had seen some cute mixed-race kids at the state fair and commented that maybe their kids would look like that. Which, maybe kinda dubious, but it’s within their marriage.

    Cue everyone else in the thread breaking out the song and dance about how mixed-race kids are the cutest, the healthiest, the most beautiful, etc.

    Meanwhile I’m like “what am I supposed to say here?,” because I don’t want to come off sounding like “how dare you say their kids will be cute? For all you know they’ll be hideous!” But I didn’t want to let it go either. I ended up starting a separate thread later asking how best to deal with “positive” stereotypes, but didn’t connect it to the previous thread.

    What would you have done? I find this kind of stereotype especially difficult to discuss, because I don’t want to insult anyone. In retrospect, maybe I should have said something like “I’m sure they’ll be great kids because Alice and Bill are so great, not because of their race.”

  18. Jadey wrote:

    Oh man, why do people always use “evolution” to talk about “super-beings!”?? All evolution means is the development of innate adaptations to a particular enviroment based on the maximization of genetic *diversity*. Diversity being a key principle in theories of evolution, I never understand this idea people have that our species is going to become more homogenized over time, particularly as some peak, ultimate being (i.e., an evolutionary dead end!), like people are paint colours to be mixed together instead of, oh, people?

    And the idea that mixed race heritage, which is a cultural construct more than a biological one, will have very much to do at all with actual biological evolution (which none of us will ever see in our brief lifespans) is extra ridiculous. It’s the same kind of thin pseudo-science veneer that shampoo commercials use and to the same purpose — just admit that you are talking about cultural standards, not biological ones, people.

  19. ashlynn wrote:

    Yay, another “exotic” stereotype to go with my afternoon snack.

  20. Kjen wrote:

    I’ve heard enough fear/concern from people that mixing with other races the children will wind up looking up just so heavily “other than” white [so mocca colored was one way it was put]. So I kind of see these types of articles as a way to assuage that anxiety. As in, okay, the races can mix and you can still the European/white-ish mixture no matter what the combo.

    But still it is progress of a sort. Now that I’ve lived to see fuller lips and fuller hips/bottoms be deemed acceptable – I’m wondering how long will it take for flatter, less pronounced noses to be deemed – the next must have feature. What’s the hold up already?

  21. Nadra wrote:

    I think another thing that’s disturbing about the mixed-people-are-beautiful myth is that in addition to their so-called white features supposedly making them beautiful, as Carmen pointed out, the beauty stereotype is also connected to sexuality. Mixed women historically were supposed to be highly seductive, as seen in movies such as “Imitation of Life.” This seductive stereotype made them targets for sexual abuse, along with the idea that a white man could rape a white-looking woman but get away with it because she was “colored” and did not need her “womanhood” protected.

  22. curlykidz wrote:

    Oh, I really hate the “mixed people will heal our fractured society” set, almost as much as I hate the “mixed babies are SOOOO cute” drivel. It makes me want to scream “GET YOUR RACIAL BAGGAGE OFF MY BABIES”

  23. Mrs._Lioness wrote:

    Totally co-signing you “curlykidz”!

    I HATE when people say stupid *ss stuff like “wars and racism will end once we all just mix and look like each other” WTF – that solves NOTHING! It’s like people don’t even realize that by saying that they are actually admitting racism is here FOREVER. According to their own philosophy the only way racism could ever go away is if there were no socially identified races, (not any real social progress or anything!) Not to mention, even if their dream came true, do they really believe there wouldn’t be other social divides? Sexual orientation, class, etc.

    Infuriating!

  24. Harmony wrote:

    But still it is progress of a sort. Now that I’ve lived to see fuller lips and fuller hips/bottoms be deemed acceptable – I’m wondering how long will it take for flatter, less pronounced noses to be deemed – the next must have feature. What’s the hold up already?

    @ Kjen
    Yeah, I’ve noticed they is STILL a not-so-subtle message being sent that only pointy noses can be beautiful and frankly its even more offenseive than the other messages out there.

  25. Montclair Mommy wrote:

    @Persephone: Yes! I totally agree with you! Its so hard to confront that kind of comment because most people really haven’t gotten the memo about how irritating it is. Perhaps I should draft it and send it out? The “Oh my God, you two will have such cute mixed babies!” started when me and my husband began dating and doesn’t show any sign of stopping. People are always commenting on my son’s adorableness, even directly in front of other (white) babies. Yes, he is very (very) cute. But, I can guess how he will feel about those sorts of comments when he’s older. Positive or not, constantly being singled out can make you feel very different/isolated. I don’t want to be the rude lady in the grocery store telling people not to compliment my son, but my first loyalty is to him. I don’t want him to be a Symbol for A New America. He’s a PERSON. But I don’t always know how to put that when speaking to strangers. So, for now, I’ve been saying “Thank you, I think all babies are adorable.”

    Whenever people say “mixed people are so beautiful” I just want to roll my eyes. Come on, people. Really? Stop with the trite stereotypes.

    And, on the “Real Women Have Curves” stuff…I guess I’m a Fake Woman. Cuz I don’t have a single curve. Oh well.

  26. Emmeaki wrote:

    Being mixed is usually only considered beautiful when the mixed person has prominent Caucasian features, with a little “flavor” added, e.g. Halle Berry, Keanu Reeves. What about mixed people who look more like one race than the other? No one is congratulating Russell Wong, Victoria Rowell, or Mark-Paul Gosselaar for being mixed, they are just seen as Chinese, black, and white.

  27. Bekka wrote:

    I agree with a lot of criticisms of the article. There is one point I’m a little less certain of, and I would be interested in how others here would see it. In the high fashion world, especially, there is a focus on ‘unusual’ looks as far more desirable than others who might be beautiful but not unique enough for high fashion. Is there possibly some legitimacy in a real desire for less common combinations of features leading to a preference for mixed-race models, without it being a fetish?

  28. pilot wrote:

    I’m not sure about the rest of the mixed heritage kids out there, but it’s these are also some of the only types of compliments I’ve gotten. Honestly, I never know what to say, and usually just try to ignore it, especially since its often friends or people I work with who say things like this. Being a woman in American society makes us insecure enough, but do we have to deal with this too?

  29. BSK wrote:

    Thanks for the info re: “Real women…” ads and also the info on the model. I assumed the model pictured was the one being discussed most prominently. Nonetheless, it does seem as if they are exaggerating this aspect of her face, for whatever reason…

  30. louise watanabe wrote:

    i haven’t read the article, but i happen to know alicia thacker. for starters (in response to shiyiya), she is not the woman in the photograph. secondly, she is gorgeous– i have a feeling that that is what this article is highlighting.

    and to finish it off– she doesn’t just sit back. the article mentions she’s a school teacher and an artist.

    seems to me like there’s a bit of an overreaction (but i will be sure to read the article for myself).

  31. RCHOUDH wrote:

    As noted already, even among mixed-race folks, a hierarchy of beauty exists. Mixed race folks who show some visible signs of white ancestry (by either looking fully white or by having any combination or light eyes, skin or hair) are the ones lauded as being most attractive. A white/POC individual whose white ancestry is not visibly apparent is not usually lauded as much to being one of those “attractive mixed race super beings”. And POC/POC individuals are of course hardly ever acknowledged for their beauty.

    What I also get tired of hearing is of certain traits being “owned” by specific races. Like light eyes, skin, and hair color is always assumed to “belong” to Europeans. Any POC with any of these features just has to have had some European ancestry even though they state they never did (I mean who knows their ancestry better the POC or the clueless person grilling them for why their hair/eyes/skin is so light)/sarcasm! That right there should show people that race is a social and not biological construct!

  32. Roschelle wrote:

    Want to be a hybrid? Have a biracial kid. This is the most ridiculous stereotypical hogwash I’d heard in a long time. …People. I swear

  33. benni jean wrote:

    In response to Seattle Slim’s comment:
    So a red headed, freckled faced, even possibly mixed character couldn’t be a Japanese princess in a fantasy game? Freckles are not a European trait…just look at Luicy Liu. And I don’t recall extremely bright orange-red hair as one either. Whether or not the character is supposed to be mixed Japanese, like it or not she’s still Japanese. Is a mixed person not “authenic” enough for a game based on pure fantasy, anyway?

    BSK & Shiyiya:
    Yes, they are accentuating her eyes with the makeup but the style of makeup has nothing to do with trying to look asian or even more exotic. If you wiped away the tail of eyeliner she’d still look asian because surprise she IS asian, as the article mentioned her background as “part German and part Filipina”.
    I occasionaly wear my makeup in a similar fashion (although not as extreme) yet it doesn’t make me look anymore “exotic” or asian than I already am. Being a mixed race asian woman, I am still viewed as such with or without the drama to the eyes.

  34. RCHOUDH wrote:

    Oh yeah and WRT that icky quote about mixed people being more beautiful than those “flawless blondes”…if that’s so why don’t we find an overrepresentation of mixed models/actresses in entertainment the same way we do blondes? Seems those “flawless” blondes are still preferred over anyone else both mixed and unmixed.

  35. little mixed girl wrote:

    hmm…more of the same stuff.
    is this article online? i tried searching for it, but nothing came up immediately…

    i guess i really don’t know what to feel when i read stuff like that.
    it just seems like part of a current trend to say stuff, but not really do anything.
    i mean, since tiger woods got big in ‘97, people have been saying stuff like that.

    mixed models have always been used, they’ve just been relegated to mono-racial roles.

    i’ll be happy when monoracial and multiracial people are able to have their features celebrated.

  36. fromthetropics wrote:

    One of the thing that bothers me is the generally held assumption that ‘mixed-race’ automatically means ‘part white’. Tiger Woods anyone? And correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems that it wasn’t until comment 31 that someone mentioned POC/POC mixes.

    I’m an Asian/Asian mix, so technically I’m not ‘mixed-race’. We don’t look ‘ambiguous’, but we’ve had to hear one group diss the other because they assumed we were on ‘their’ side because we’re ‘different’ from ‘those’ others. I’ve had to deal with the power dynamics between the two groups, as well as the power dynamics between the ‘Asian world’ and the English-speaking ‘Western world’ due to my upbringing. Not to mention the cultural differences, the going-to-and-fro the different cultural groups acting out different cultures, and trying to speak perfectly in each language since I don’t ‘look mixed’ hence there is an expectation for me to blend in completely.

    Yes, this is a rant. I, and other Asian/Asian mixes (whether they be East Asian or Southeast Asian) I’ve spoken to, have grown up watching ‘Eurasian’ mixes with a mixture of envy, jealousy, and slight resentment as we watch them getting far more positive attention. And it doesn’t help when we sense or hear that in some (not all, only some) cases their Asian parent seem a little ‘proud’ of their part-white baby. And by implication, we’re ‘not mixed enough’. Or when your close Eurasian friend decides racism doesn’t really exist because she’s tried so hard to be white and has succeeded. Let’s face it, being ‘mixed’ isn’t just about some utopian futuristic world. The power dynamics are there, plain and simple. And yes, we learn to navigate through it quite skillfully because we have to. And yeah, mixed people (whatever the mix – white/poc or poc/poc) can be just as racially prejudiced as anyone – we do live in the same world as everyone else.

    Now that I’m an adult, I’m learning to get past the mixed feelings I had towards those who are part-white and trying to find a common ground to work from. And trying to understand where those who are white/poc mixes are coming from in the way they see and experience the world. But I find it hard to find that common ground sometimes. And I think it might have something to do with the discussion here.

    …I’m not sure what I want to say. Just trying to unload in the hopes that it’ll help me hit something that’ll help me understand the perceived gap that seems to exist between white/poc mixes and poc/poc mixes and perhaps build that ‘bridge’…maybe?

  37. m. wrote:

    @ Bekka:
    While many times a model is only considered desirable for her thin frame (oftentimes, people will not care how boring or straight up unattractive she is, as long as the clothes sit–or rather, hang–right on her body), you’re noticing that the more in-demand models actually have recognizable faces with unique features because this is what gets them work.
    I would definitely not consider this fetishizing, or even a preference for mixed race people exclusively, because there are plenty of models that aren’t mixed whose faces are considered unusual (Lily Cole or Mariacarla what’s-her-name) or unique (Alex Wek or Daul Kim – though I suspect she’s only getting more attention because of her dyed hair). They are sought after for the same reason a stand-out mixed model would be: for possessing a certain look that sets them apart from everyone else. There is a model, not mixed and ethnically Chinese, who actually used her albinism to her advantage (Connie Chiu). Memorable faces = successful models, especially in print. A runway model could have a strong walk and the body of a giraffe, but none of that counts for spreads if they’re a plain Jane.

    Anyway, I am not touching that ‘Allure’ article with a ten foot pole. (’Faces of the Future’?! …WTF?) Mixed race people are just that – PEOPLE, not androids!

  38. fromthetropics wrote:

    And oh. I was with a white friend of mine who is married to a…errr, ‘polynesian’(?) person (not sure what the right word is, but basically he has dark skin) one day when she pointed to a guy who wasn’t white but had slightly lighter skin than her partner and said, ‘Oh, maybe our kid is gonna look like that, you think?’ I just shrugged, but for some reason this bothered me.

    And then when they actually did have a baby, she noted in jest how the baby didn’t look like her (i.e. not white) but looked much like the father (in reference to skin color and what not). This bothered me too in the same way as the previous story. For some reason I just didn’t like the way she seemed very aware of skin color and all that. I couldn’t understand why the baby wasn’t just a baby. You know, an individual.

    I’ve wondered if I was being too sensitive. Or maybe it’s got something to do with the whole ‘exoticization’ of ‘mixed babies’ and what curlykidz says in comment 22:
    >It makes me want to scream “GET YOUR RACIAL BAGGAGE OFF MY BABIES”

  39. Steven Augustine wrote:

    This race shit is a mess. It’s a hydra-knot that doubles every time you try to cut it. Discussing race almost invariably ends up with everyone talking on (and with) the terms established by racists: it’s like using foul language to rail against obscenity. Ignore it, I say.

    Look at YouTube: any video posted with a black face in it or pertaining to anything vaguely racialist devolves almost immediately into a moronic spree of misspelled epithets in the comment thread; wade in, or ignore… ?

    I’m multi-raced, my parents are multi-raced, my children are multi raced… we ignore the “issue” until we’re forced to comment. Our last-ditch comments are always along the lines that *somebody* has a problem, but it isn’t us.

  40. Medusa wrote:

    Meanwhile I’m like “what am I supposed to say here?,” because I don’t want to come off sounding like “how dare you say their kids will be cute? For all you know they’ll be hideous!”
    Yeahhhhh…….people also have a tendency to put “positively” stereotype people even when it’s clear that a certain person doesn’t even fit that stereotype.

    Case in point- I was at a party (and I was bored out of my fucking mind cuz I was sitting at a table of boring snobs and wanted to kill myself because the table behind me seemed to be having a blast, so this may contribute to my annoyance), and this one girl was telling us that she is of both white and Chinese ancestry. The girl sitting to me whispers “She’s so beautiful, isn’t she? She’s mixed.” Mind you, I had just been thinking “This girl looks like a fucking mouse” but I found it quite telling that just the fact that she was mixed made her beautiful, despite the fact that she, you know, wasn’t…

    And the “flawless blue-eyed blondes” thing creeped me the fuck out too. Obviously, blonde-haired blue-eyed people are just inherently more attractive than the rest of us, and mixed people are exotic* and edgy.

    And the people who pointed out that mixed is only “beautiful” when it is a mix of Caucasian and “other” features are spot on.

    And what the hell? Futuristic? mixed people have been around since like, the dawn of time.

    *I HATE this word

  41. curlykidz wrote:

    @Montclair Mommy, check out “Does Anybody Else Look Like Me?: A Parent’s Guide To Raising Multiracial Children.” I used to really struggle with appearing ungracious to well intended strangers before reading that book. If you click the link in my name it goes to a series of blogs I wrote a few years ago when I was struggling with how to handle the “zooing” of my children. “Hate Hurts: How Children Learn and Unlearn Prejudice” is also a good resource.

  42. Montclair Mommy wrote:

    @curlykidz: thanks. I read that book when my son was just a newborn (I think I should re-read it soon)…we actually have two copies b/c two people gave it to us. Ha! I did find they had great advice. Its hard to take sometimes, but I just try to think about my son first and foremost. I’d rather other people think I’m rude than have my son feeling like an exhibit on display.

    @fromthetropics: thank you for sharing your perspective. Many of my husband’s cousins are also “mixed” in the sense that their parents are from different countries (ex: Nigeria/Trinidad). No one would know they are “mixed” but I know they have to struggle with the different cultures, languages, and with each side dissing the other. Your post was really insightful.

  43. s wrote:

    this is definitely creepy. whenever people discuss mixed-race beauty, i find it disturbing that they try to pick and choose what features go to which race. like people of one ethnicity all have the same type of nose, eye shape, hair etc. that in itself is unrealistic. also what ever happened to the idea that beauty is subjective? i feel like most of the problems we discuss in terms of the exclusion created by having one standard of beauty would persist no matter what the standard was, just by means of having a standard in the first place. “standard of beauty” seems like an oxymoron to me, because isnt the subjective basis of perceptions of beauty a reflection of the fact that you find someone beautiful because there is something unique about them that you dont commonly see in others? so isnt standardized more likely to be boring than beautiful?

  44. Kiana_alzate wrote:

    This cracks me up, 1 because it’s allure, and 2, because my dad (who is filipino norwegian spanish) has joked about ‘Hapa’ or ‘mixed race’ people as hybrid vigor of society. which is actually just a joke, but now that it’s actually taken into seriousness, in a beauty magazine, I really dont know what to think. I am mixed as well, people are ‘fascinated’ or ‘interested’ in the fact that i’m like a double-hapa bred baby (japanese, german, filipino, norwegian, spanish). it’s a strange thing to think of mixed as the faces of the future, when it seems likes we as society are falling back a step by generalizing race into a term like mixed or biracial or hapa. We are still finding ourselves unable to recognize the differences, and still categorize, like the video on this site where the girl didn’t know if her friend was asian and thought she was white. categorizations and assumptions about the generic throwaway word ‘mixed’ seem to reveal the ignorance about race and racism that we still possess.

    i am very happy you posted all this information and this article! it’s a great and continuous discussion. :)

  45. m. wrote:

    As if fetishizing those who are mixed race isn’t messed up enough, it is also disgusting (and quite telling) when people of color that aren’t mixed become envious of their mixed brethren to a point where they either project upon mixed people altogether. I hear enough about people of color who aren’t mixed getting fetishized, exoticized and everything else (like complimented for the wrong reasons) to believe that the only difference between POCs that aren’t mixed and those who are may be a sense of resentment and jealousy amongst some of those who aren’t. Some POCs talk like it is, but it isn’t mixed race peoples’ fault that white people put their IDEAS of what mixed race people are like, or their idealized version of a Mixed Superbeing, up on a pedestal. Sometimes I get the feeling so many people, due to limited interactions with those who are mixed (at least enough varied reactions – those who don’t have a white father or one Asian/Black parent are common examples), think that the only mixed race people that exist are those you hear about on t.v. or see in magazines. Not all mixed race people are praised for superficial reasons throughout their entire lives or the wrecked remains of a failed rainbow generation.

    Mixed race men are never the implied subject of people’s talk (or comments, in this case) when it comes to people expressing anguish over how mixed people are “better off”, furthering stereotypes by labeling mixed persons as “ambiguous” (WTF?) and making examples of mixed people who are unattractive and therefore undeserving of any compliments they receive. Funny thing, that. Don’t know if anyone else noticed this as pretty common.

  46. A. wrote:

    The problem, m., is that a lot of monorace black people are often told that they are NOT beautiful. Dark skinned men MAY hear that they’re good looking. Monorace black women are rarely, if ever, told that they’re a thing of beauty. At least in the US, you do hear people say that there are a lot of beautiful monorace Northeast Asians and Southern Asians, but what is the chances that you actually hear about black women being told that they’re beautiful when we possess our own natural features? Our own hair is often an object of ridicule when we wear it as we wish.

    That is why a lot of monorace black people tend to be envious of mixed people to the point of disdain – Especially when I hear all the time “Black women don’t have pretty facial features, etc.” You can be strong if you like, but there will be times where it will begin to hurt. I generally don’t appreciate other POC being envious of mixed-race people, but ultimately, that is where it is coming from. When you are told that you’re outright ugly all of your life, it will have an effect on you, no matter how small.

    The biggest issue here is ultimately the people that wrote this article (READ – white) generally can’t think in terms of “If I’m not part of it, it’s not beautiful”, so they absolutely exoticize anything that bears some similarity to them or that they happened to have a part in creating.

  47. fromthetropics wrote:

    @m – Not sure who you’re responding to, but sounds like you’re responding to a lot of what I said. So here’s my response to you:

    >but it isn’t mixed race peoples’ fault that white people put their IDEAS of what mixed race people are like, or their idealized version of a Mixed Superbeing, up on a pedestal

    Yes, and that’s exactly what we’re trying to critique here – how ‘whiteness’ works in society.

    >Sometimes I get the feeling so many people, due to limited interactions with those who are mixed…think that the only mixed race people that exist are those you hear about on t.v. or see in magazines.

    Well, in my case I grew up with lots of mixed kids at international schools. And observed how most hang out with the ‘white kids’. A few have confessed that because they are ’seen as white’ in Asia, they know they can ‘get away with things’ due to the privilege accorded to whiteness the world over. My main criticism is of how many mixed race people (like anyone on this planet who can – white and pocs alike) do take advantage of white privilege even though at times they’re at the receiving end of racism/stereotyping. And it’s also a criticism of the assumption that if someone is biracial, then they are automatically less prejudiced. And hence the more biracials we get in the world, the less racism there will be…Uhm, that makes little sense.

    Like any group, there are nice and open-minded mixed kids, and there are those who ‘look down’ on POCs. Recently I’ve noticed that some young ones completely refuse to acknowledge their POC side and choose to pass as white due perhaps to the racism they’ve experienced/observed towards non-whites. As an adult, I am no longer offended by it at all, but it breaks my heart to see young people having to do this to ’survive’, so to speak, in a world where power dynamics is very much alive.

    >furthering stereotypes by labeling mixed persons as “ambiguous” (WTF?)

    I took that term from Carmen’s video above (who is mixed-race herself).

    >and making examples of mixed people who are unattractive and therefore undeserving of any compliments they receive.

    This wasn’t me, but I’ll respond anyway. It’s not a dissing of mixed race people. It’s a critique of *the exoticization* of a group of people by both whites and pocs, and a critique of how people put them on a pedestal due to their share in whiteness. So it’s a critique of society and its views. It’s also a critique of how participants can take advantage of this. Interestingly, when you spend enough time around lots and lots of mixed race people who are part white-part non-white, the ‘exotic’ feel starts to dissipate as their look becomes ‘normalized’. But most people don’t get this opportunity, hence the exoticization and pedestalization (yes, I just created a word) continues.

  48. anon wrote:

    “I particularly am not fond of “real women have curves” because it seems to reinforce the idea that if you don’t have boobs or hips, you’re not “womanly”.)”

    Yes, it is very counterproductive because there are women who just don’t fit that image. Tyra Banks is good for for this (divisive), I mean “uplifting” behavior.

  49. g531 wrote:

    Thank you. I appreciated this piece. The political ramifications of mixing and to what/whom one ‘owes’ their praised characteristics is fairly obnoxious. I appreciate this post and the critiques of the aforementioned article. I was just reading and writing on eugenicist and ethno-centrist beauty ideals and the effects that has on the psyche.

  50. Christie wrote:

    I did a Google images search on Alicia Thacker and was led to the following website:

    http://www.whitehotmagazine.com/articles/with-marilyn-minter-alicia-thacker/1509

    Except for the top photo of the two women, the images are pretty grotesque… definitely not a case of a mixed race model sitting around looking pretty or decorative! However, as mentioned above, her photographer still seems to be mentioning the same old thing about mixed race people being very special-looking.

    It’s pretty rude the way this post’s main article suggests that Alicia Thacker could have come out of a laboratory!! Umm… it makes her sound like Frankenstein. :(

  51. gillian wrote:

    I always think when people say mixed-raced people are the folks of the future “oh well, I guess the rest of us are SOL.”

    Actually, this article and discussion reminds me of the reaction to the recent NYT article about Michelle Obama’s mixed-race ancestry. People in the comments section were over the moon to realize the First Lady has white ancestors. This was apparently a new discovery for most of them. I found it interesting that while the article establishes that African-Americans have mixed ancestry, it neglects to mention that the same is true for ALL Americans. Interesting.

  52. Mieko wrote:

    Please keep in mind guys, not all of us mixed kids are W/POC mixes, nor are we all biracial!

  53. K Lowe wrote:

    says the photographer, whose other subjects in the portfolio include Victoria Brito, who is Brazilian and Austrian – and looks as blonde as an Alpine maiden and at the same time as sultry as the girl from Ipanema;

    Is “Brazilian” a race?

  54. TheVoiceOfReason wrote:

    Yes, I saw the article at a gas station I frequent and I almost barfed.

  55. IronOxideCorset wrote:

    What a disgusting article. “Mixed people” have existed since the dawn of time. People need to stop with their stereotypes of how a biracial person is supposed to look like. I have a friend who is biracial (she is black and white) and people always ask her why she doesn’t look like Mariah Carey or Halle Berry. As if all mixed women are supposed to look like that.

    And all of this talk about “mixed” people solving racism is ridiculous. Slave masters who raped black female slaves for 400 years, creating mixed children, didn’t make them want to stop slavery. (It did prompt them to use divide and conquer techniques between slaves, pitting lighter and darker ones against each other.) And it still went after slavery had ended. (Having a biracial child didn’t stop Strom Thurmond from being racist.)

  56. SB wrote:

    I found the tone of the article really creepy. The author seemed fascinated and yet slightly repulsed by the multi-ethnicity of the models. The photos had a “Island of Dr. Moreau”-type of vibe(In terms of the photographer’s view). The author flips back and forth between praising the models’, um, existences(?) and emphasizing how “other” they are.

  57. Toni Bologna wrote:

    So where will they be shipping the rest of us off to now?

  58. jaimeteaspoon wrote:

    *sigh* As a mixed person, I feel that sometimes that the only way that I can be considered beautiful is in the “exotic” category. My features are ethnic and my skin color is very pale. I remember having a discussion in high school about my heritage and a male peer said, “Oh, you’re Native American? So that explains your face.” No apologies afterward. Ouch.

  59. Fiqah wrote:

    @IronOxideCorset:

    And all of this talk about “mixed” people solving racism is ridiculous. Slave masters who raped black female slaves for 400 years, creating mixed children, didn’t make them want to stop slavery. (It did prompt them to use divide and conquer techniques between slaves, pitting lighter and darker ones against each other.) And it still went after slavery had ended. (Having a biracial child didn’t stop Strom Thurmond from being racist.)

    Yup. This. It’s terribly, terribly important to remember that “biracial” is a new CATEGORY, not a new concept.

  60. shygirl wrote:

    On this article being a person of mixed background i thought at first it was a celebration on different cultures and being proud of my background i bought it with out reading it,its more like an obsession on race.I would get sooo mad when people would come up to me without getting to know me and kinda rude ask what are you and then say your VERY PRETTY or and EXOTIC. i think they should of really thought about it before they wrote on paper