Black women want their heads rubbed, too

by Guest Contributor Ryan Barrett, originally published at Cheap Thrills

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Now that this week’s Oprah schedule is up onher site, I guess I can divulge which taping I attended (and if this isn’t supreme coincidence I don’t know what is): Chris Rock’s dish on his new documentary, “Good Hair”. In fact, we audience members attended the film’s North American film debut, right here in downtown Chicago.

The show airs today, September 30th (set your DVRs!). But before it does, I’d like to comment on an issue that Rock discusses both in the film and during his visit with Oprah: the “no touch” rule when it comes to Black women’s hair (i.e. if you’re dating a Black woman, don’t even try to get near her head). According to Rock, Black men are “thirsty” to touch a head of hair, and Black women’s “keep away” policy causes intimacy issues.

So I’ll venture this, and then explain: Black women’s scalps are equally parched from lack of attention. Yes, our hair is thirsty for love, too.

Deeper than the “my hair will get messed up” mantra, I think the root of the problem lies in insecurity. And why not? Us women of color have always been taught that, in its natural state, our hair is not beautiful. So we hide behind weaves and wigs and relaxers, quite literally putting up a barriers between our scalps and the hands of others.

At least in my experience, the fake-ification of my hair promoted my own hair insecurity. When I had a relaxer, my hair was never normal – but instead “oily” or “brittle” or “damaged”. It couldn’t get wet. It would break if I was – forced to – swim during PE. And oh, the lies I told my White friends back then! They’d ask, “How long does it take you to straighten your hair every morning?” I’d reply, “Oh, awhile.” Never letting on that I actually hadn’t washed it for 2 weeks. Because, in my mind, telling them that would make them think I was dirty (when in reality, it’s just not good to wash, blow dry, and hot iron relaxed hair very often). And so, when my first serious boyfriend didn’t want to rub my scalp because my hair was “too greasy”, I pretty much deemed my hair off-limits. It wasn’t that I didn’t want my head rubbed; it was more that I was ashamed. And, quite honestly, having someone you care about halfheartedly rub your head for a second and then wipe off his hand on his jeans burns more than any relaxer on the shelf.

Of course, these stories are from high school. I don’t have a relaxer anymore and I’m proud of my hair now, but I’ll be honest – the insecurity lingers. That’s why, even today, there are only a handful of people who I allow near my head. They’re the ones who I know are actually enjoying my hair. The ones I trust with all my insecurities. Because, as a woman of color, when someone rubs your head you’re completely dropping your guard, thus putting your complete SELF into their hands. It can be sensual, but definitely not by definition. It’s love (think Celie “scratching the song” out of Shug’s head in “The Color Purple”).

It’s sacred.

So back to Chris Rock and men not being allowed to touch Black women’s hair. My advice: If you’re a man and you’re with a Black woman, offer to give her a legit scalp massage. Say you’ll be careful not to mess up her hair – all you want is for her to lay down and close her eyes and relax. She may turn you down, but believe me, the offer will light her up.

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Comments

  1. mistersquid wrote:

    Thank you for this illuminating and thoughtful post on some of the motivating factors and emotional pathologies involved in the erasure of racial difference, which essentially is what many hair products and treatments for black women amount to.

  2. Kandeezie wrote:

    :::claps:::

    That’s exactly it. Insecurity. ‘Our’ hair is never normal. And what do ‘they’ mean by ‘normal to dry’ or ‘normal to oily’ anyway!?! What is normal? [I think we know the answer to that.]

    And our experiences with hair have always been dismissed, made fun of, or blamed on us – like people wear weaves for no reason. This society tells us something about black women and hair, and it’s certainly not that we should be proud of it or show it in it’s naturally curly state.

    Great post.

  3. aimerrouge wrote:

    In my personal experience, intimates are always welcome to touch me. On the other hand, other Black women have always had this desire to touch my hair to “see what if feels like” because they “don’t know what natural hair feels like.” My response is “I am not a dog. You are welcome pet me. “

  4. aimerrouge wrote:

    In my personal experience, intimates are always welcome to touch me. On the other hand, other Black women have always had this desire to touch my hair to “see what if feels like” because they “don’t know what natural hair feels like.” My response is “I am not a dog. You are NOT welcome to pet me. “

  5. curlyscales wrote:

    I left the world of relaxing when I became pregnant 16 years ago and vowed to stay away when I gave birth to my daughter.

    For me, the idea of my daughter thinking that something was “wrong” with her hair by way of looking at mine in a relaxed state was absolutely unacceptable.

    I love my hair. I love when people touch it. But more than anything, I love the fact that I’ve gotten past my hair. Society will always have an opinion about everything but we also know that it (society) is severely flawed.

    Why do we still allow ourselves to be hoodwinked?

  6. Phil Deeze wrote:

    I wonder if Rock’s movie “Good Hair” will only serve to make the mainstream public only laugh at black women’s hair as opposed to UNDERSTAND that it is an issue.

    I’m all for a good laugh. My wife and I discuss her trials and travails with her hair quite often, but I hope that some mainstream folks that like to laugh at anything Chris Rock does (and that’s MORE than alright by me) don’t miss the message.

  7. 9jah wrote:

    I watched that show with Chris Rock. I find Chris Rock to be border line offensive – toward black people. He seems to delight in it. And he is not particularly funny either.

    White folks gulp it up and black folks seem to give him a pass.

    I thought that show was very condescending toward black women. He sees a picture of a neat and put together kid oprah and the first thing he thinks about is “slave”?! Very warped.

  8. 9jah wrote:

    Didn’t mean to derail the convo, just the thought was heavy on my mind.

    Regarding rubbing black women’s hair, I have been rebuffed and also been allowed. I have absolutely no problem with the type of hair it is. I do gauge beforehand how comfortable a woman is though by noting body language.

  9. Bela wrote:

    Yes, I was just thinking about my hair today in a similar context. I am half mozambiquan and half american, basically meaning that my hair is curly/wavy. I always receive attention for it when I leave it out, even though the comments are positive and my hair is a unique quality I have, just the fact that I get SOO much attention for it can be unsettling.

    I’m not really voicing what I want to say coherently – I just mean that why can’t my hair just be hair?

  10. A. wrote:

    Chris Rock, simply put, is a prick to me. Like I need another black man pushing the stereotype that black women are mean and evil.

    Honestly? Intimates are absolutely WELCOME to touch my hair. My boyfriend does it all the time – and he’s WHITE. What Rock doesn’t seem to understand is that just because I let an intimate do something doesn’t mean that my scalp is open for everyone else to touch.

    Seriously, it’s always an issue of extremes with people. If Party A can touch my hair than that means that Parties B, C and D can apparently touch it too. Doesn’t work like that.

  11. MoonCat wrote:

    I have learned so much about black women’s hair, hair issues/concerns and hair care (still learning) the past few weeks since this movie is coming out because there have been so many people writing. I really appreciate being able to read personal stories.

  12. drea wrote:

    i admit that sometimes i’m afraid people will think my hair is too greasy also.

  13. MoonCat wrote:

    Second thought after reading more comments:

    I think it is very, very weird that adults (not a toddler) would feel like it’s “ok” to touch another stranger/acquaintance’s hair. Really weird and lacking in boundaries and manners.

  14. Cycads wrote:

    Oh, brilliant post!!

    Thanks for this. For a long time I’ve been battling with my hair, too. But being Southeast Asian, who are mostly straight-haired, I stand out because I grew up having big, frizzy, bushy hair that I’ve long been ashamed of. I did go through the relaxers phase, only to end up having brittle, uncomfortably straight, and dried-as-hell hair. Before I met my current boyfriend, I had really long, relaxed hair. To be fair, it made me look attractive, but I didn’t feel good. Slowly, I began to leave my hair alone, cutting it and letting my natural hair grow. There’s a strange happy ending to this story, because my hair grew out to be more wavy and a little more how I like it – somewhere in between my former, adolescent hair and my previous shameful chemed-out hair. I don’t have issues about revealing my true self to my bf though, but jokes about troll hair really pisses me off.

  15. Shermy wrote:

    Great post, I totally relate!

  16. Ami D. wrote:

    I’m so glad you posted this article. Every since this clip has been shown regarding the “No Touch” clause, I have felt a little out of place. I have relaxed hair, and I genuinely don’t mind anyone, I know, touching my hair. If I have allowed you to enter my personal space, then I have, by default, allowed you to touch my hair – just like you’d touch my arm or my shoulder. I was raised around women that touching hair was just an extension of affection, just like a hug, or a kiss on the cheek. I grew up seeing my father play with my mother’s hair. Now, her grandchildren braid it and tug it and Lord knows what else. If you were sitting next to me on a sofa, you could easily be next the victim who was given the responsibility to stroke my hair until I either purred like a kitten or fell asleep. This post, however, does address something, I never thought about. We are visually and verbally bombarded daily with the implication that our hair is not “normal” or desirable – no matter what we do to it. So I can see where paying “unnecessary” attention to something that already makes us so self-conscious can be a problem.

  17. SeattleSlim wrote:

    Great post, Ryan!
    This was very true for me as well. It was upsetting that my boyfriend would complain about my hairs on the bed from breakage with that God awful relaxer, the daily heat, etc.

    I remember watching a movie clip of Nicole Kidman having her curly tresses washed by some guy, and lamenting that I would never get that. Now that I am natural, I’m getting what I thought was unatainable.

    Mr. Slim rubs my hair constantly, or plays in it, and I damn near purr.

    Matter of fact, we were just talking about the grease and the gunk put into the hair. I was so ashamed of that. *smdh* I can’t ever go back to that place.

  18. AJ wrote:

    Back when we were broke grad students and couldn’t afford salon visits often, my Black wife taught me how to oil her scalp and help with ironing her hair. It was always a lovely and intimate experience.

  19. SeattleSlim wrote:

    @A (#10)

    My bf is white himself, and refused to touch mine when it was relaxed because it was greasy. I didn’t want him to touch it either. So while some folks are the exception to the rule, let’s not kid ourselves, when statistically, just based on the number of women who relax, there are probably way more women (and men) who feel uncomfortable touching relaxed hair because of the treatments/products.

  20. Ron wrote:

    My wife loves for me to scratch and oil her scalp.
    I think as animals it is a sign of affection for us to groom each other. The intimacy involved creates a bond.

    I would not want touch another unrelated female’s scalp without some monetary purpose behind touching her scalp.

  21. SeattleSlim wrote:

    When we get into the hair debate, (sorry for the posts, I’m commenting as I read) re: BW, it becomes polarizing, kind of like the race debate in the country, when there really is no black and white.

    Our hair can’t just be hair because for it to be that way, race relations and all that goes with it, would have to make a dramatic shift. That’s not happening anytime soon and we know this.

    We also can’t really get mad at Chris Rock because he had actresses get on the camera and talk about their weaves. Matter of fact, Joy Bryant brought some heat upon herself for her very odd, pro-weave blog post at Essence.com last week. He’s not forcing these women to do anything they don’t want to do.

    Whether or not we like it we must have these discussions and hash out these issues, and be HONEST, regardless of how offensive it is to folks who chemically treat or don’t chemically treat. I know of women who have put weaves in their little girls’ hair.

    Our hair, like our sexuality, and other subjects, was thrown out to the forefront centuries ago when we had to cover our hair, and it will remain that way until a) we have the conversations and get real, foregoing those who take offense at the truth and b) make the change.

    If someone has their hair relaxed, for them it may not be anything, but to the world and everyone else, it’s a statement, because of the very history behind it.

  22. A.D. Nix wrote:

    @ A.
    DITTO on all accounts. I am so with your comment that on first glance I thought I had written it myself and somehow forgotten.

    @ 9jah
    The “slave” joke was as weak as it was wack. I was also fairly sketched out by Oprah’s “It’s all MINE!” hair shake. Congratulations but, considering the convo, is that helping?

  23. Ryan Barrett wrote:

    @AJ:
    That’s the definition of love.

    @A.D. Nix:
    I was also slightly perturbed by Oprah’s “it’s all mine” comment. When the cameras weren’t rolling, she also looked at one of her pictures (the one of her natural hair blown out) and said, “Now, that ISN’T good hair!” When she said that, I remembered how excited I used to be as a little girl when my mom blew out my hair. It looked just like Oprah’s in the photo. And I never thought it was “bad” hair until people told me it was too wild. So I was pretty miffed at Oprah’s comment. Like, saying something like that IS PART of the problem, you know?

  24. 7thangel wrote:

    i can’t stand chris rock and he’s always been a fave among some whites since his black vs n#gg#rs and this solidified my distaste for this fool.

    and once again i’m sad to say that oprah continues to disappoint, i respect her achievements but damn, her show is for middle/upper class white women. i should be glad that she at least created a media giant through hard work and determination despite the obstacles unlike cosby and others that had the cash and opportunity

    whatever. sorry for going off topic but the show irked me and damn someone needs to put that idiot rock in effin’ check

  25. Kaonashi wrote:

    @aimerrouge: I agree. I don’t mind it at all when intimates do it, but there’s some uber creepy when complete strangers want to touch you. I don’t care how curious you are about someone’s hair–in what world is that acceptable?

  26. N wrote:

    Gel. When I first wash it its full of gel. I don’t mind if ppl (boyfriends) touch it but i warn them first- its full of wet gel still.
    And sometimes the gel when dry makes it crunchy and hard like tumbleweed.

  27. Leah wrote:

    I teach university students who are becoming elementary school teachers. Most of my students come from White, middle class backgrounds, and have largely grown up with people who look like one another. For the past few years, this means the ubiquitous long, silky, straight (often flat-ironed, often bleached/highlighted blonde) hair, worn down every day. Every year many of these university students gush about how the African American children in their internship classrooms just “loooooove” their White hair. It’s sadly predictable. They say things like, “My kids just loooove my straight hair! They’ve never touched hair like mine, so they’re always touching it!” And they beam with a huge smile, as if they’re promoting interracial understanding by encouraging a child of color to perceive as beautiful hair that is different from their own textured hair. And the comment that makes me cringe the most: “My kids tell me I look like a princess because of my hair!’ Where to begin in helping them understand that they are, in fact, reinforcing negative and damaging stereotypes about “good” and “bad” hair? That they are encouraging discourses of self-hatred in their young students, rather than self-pride? That instead of being flattered to be called a princess, they should be fighting the stereotypes that beauty is about approximating Whiteness?

  28. Moviegirl wrote:

    Interesting topic. I have a relaxer but I never used grease growing up. I hated the way it made my hair feel at 12 years old so I’ve never used it again. Same can be said for my mother and sister. I think we used it because we thought we were supposed to use it because other ppl used it. Also I’ve never greased my scalp. I know my friends who come from tropical climates often have dry scalp, lips and skin because their bodies are used to the moisture that tropical climates can provide. And now they are living in NYC and talk about getting their scalp scratch, etc. For the record, I hardly ever use lip balm unless my lower lip has split for some reason. However I have read that if you begin to use lip balm, it actually dries out your lips and you end up using more of it. I wonder if that’s the same with dry scalp. Everyone’s hair is so different. I never grease my scalp because it becomes oily on its own in about a week and that’s when I typically wash it or else flakes appear. I could go two weeks before washing my hair but normally if I want it to look clean, I wash it every week.

  29. Kisha wrote:

    I have been reading this blog for a while and I love it.. Nice post..

    Anyway, I am a black woman and my significant other is free to touch my hair. I have a question; did someone take a poll and ask all black women if we did not want our hair touched? Right now I feel like because Oprah and Chris Rock are African American, that everyone is giving these folks a pass. They are making overt generalizations about millions of people based their own personal experience. If someone of a another ethnicity, culture, race etc had said “black women want to enforce a “no touch” regarding our hair there would be outrage..

    And why do I feel like African American’s pain has become entertainment for privileged instead of finding ways to end the privlege. Remember Chris Rock and all others regardless of their intentions are getting paid for it.

    Just saying.. Peace and blessings.

  30. RainaWeather wrote:

    I saw the show when it aired. While I thought it was good, I was disappointed that of all the black women interviewed, almost none of them had natural hair. Yet, they were there talking about how black women are afraid of showing their real hair. I think I saw two women with natural hair, and their screen time wasn’t long. I hope this documentary does some educational good. When I told my white friend I was going natural she was completely dumbfounded. And when she finally saw me with a short afro she just said, “I don’t understand.” Even though she really loved my hair in its natural state, she just could not for the life of her understand how I was able to do that to my hair. When I explained about perms she was amazed. Then she looked around and said, “do all black women do this?” I said, “you have no idea.” I didn’t have time to give a history lesson just then.

    Something I liked was that Chris Rock called out white women and the phenomenon of dying their hair blond (something I notice everywhere).

  31. tj wrote:

    Totally disagree with this. I have natural hair and NO I don’t want my scalp rubbed. I am not a white woman, nor do I desire to be or want to compare myself to one by saying we like the same things. This is a generalization. I don’t like when people generalize Black women or any others. NO-don’t touch my hair. And I don’t know any Black woman who wants their hair touched, just my opinion.

  32. MoonCat wrote:

    @ Leah
    That is really interesting. Do the ladies in the internship programs then tell the girls they’re working with that they look like princesses too and that their hair is pretty or do they leave it alone, soaking in the compliment without thinking? Is there any way in the conversation they could steer it back to the children, reminding them that they’re beautiful too?

  33. SeattleSlim wrote:

    @Kisha,

    The rich can do it, unfortunately, because they have the money and resources to do it. If it were you pitching this movie, it probably would not get much attention (sadly). Chris and Oprah have clut and therefore they are free to express their creative ideas.

    I would love to see a more serious, less comical approach to this. Actually, Aron Ranen has a documentary on black women and hair/weaves that’s free for the most part on Youtube.

  34. SeattleSlim wrote:

    @27

    That’s disheartening and saddening. Sadly, can we really blame those women when it’s clear that something is not being instilled in the household?

    We cannot as POCs expect for non-POCs to always get us or hold our hands. I agree with you about those women doing a better job of using the opportunity to help those little girls, but as far as I am concerned, the conversation should’ve never taken place.

    I will continue to contend and believe that if we as BW (and BM) continue to run from the things that make us who we are, we will continue to suffer.

  35. RainaWeather wrote:

    @ Leah. I would just tell them what you just said. Ask them, “If your female students think your hair makes you look like a princess, what do they think their hair makes them look like?” Ask them if they ever tell their female students that their own hair is beautiful as well.

  36. Courtney wrote:

    I have HIF (Hand In Fro) Syndrome, and I sense that others might have it, too– just with *their* hands in *my* fro.

    Oddly, those people with externally-focused HIF happen never to be my partners, or anyone acting with intent to please me…

  37. GeeLennox wrote:

    “African American’s pain has become entertainment for privileged ”

    I think it’s more specifically Black women’s pain. Black girl pain is hilarious, our hair, our bodies, our sexuality( the slut or the asexual).

    Anything that makes us stand apart from non-Black women is humorous.

  38. D. Welsh wrote:

    My wife isn’t Black, but doesn’t like her head being touched either! So much so, trips to the hairdresser are kept to a minimum. When I was a kid, though, one of my best mates was Black and had two sisters. The fuss they and their mum made over their hair was incredible. As I would often spend weekends at their place, us menfolk could never understand the fuss…
    At university there was a girl from Cameroon on our floor who was quite open about this; according to her it is difficult for those of Subsaharan descent to grow luscious long hair. Paradoxically, it is this obsession with “caucasian type hair” that causes such issues. The girl in question had given up years ago, shaved her head and wore wigs which looked incredibly real. The only way you could tell was because she would sport different styles from week to week. She never asked for a scalp massage.

    Back to my mate though: he would alternate between very short and an Afro – at one point then braiding it. The Afro looked great, shame he didn’t really like it – I was always envious of his hair. He would have preferred my blonde and wavy locks.

  39. me wrote:

    I’m black, have natural hair, and my husband has always hated it. I keep it clean and conditioned, and I love touching it myself (it’s wonderfully soft), but the only time he ran his fingers through my hair with abandon was when I used to wear it straightened.
    Luckily, I have not internalized his (or anyone else’s) issues. I love my hair.

  40. curlyscales wrote:

    @tj,
    I’m a black woman and I love my hair being touched.

    We are diverse in our experiences and feelings.

    Let’s celebrate.

  41. Als wrote:

    I always get my bf to massage my scalp.. it’s so sensitive especially since I’ve had locs for 7 yrs!

    Ur scalp is another g spot.

  42. NeNe wrote:

    … I have natural hair. And my ex-partner, who is white, would really only touch my hair if I requested it because he was so… you know, cracked… by all the politics and what not that go into B/black hair.

    However, I think this article is on the head and is probably one of the best and most original I have read.

    Yeah, Chris Rock is an ass. But then, I don’t really follow him anymore.

  43. RQ wrote:

    I feel the exact same way as TJ. I wear my hair naturally and DO NOT want anyone touching it. While I love my hair, it’s high maintenance and my shower having low water pressure doesn’t help. Detangling, sectioning, washing each section, rinsing each section, conditioning each section, rinsing each section, detangling, twisting/bantu knots, moisturizing, detangling and styling. My hair is *thick* and somewhat long so this usually take the better part of the day.

    I don’t like people digging their fingers into my hair because 1) it unnecessarily introduces dirt and 2) I’m not an animal at a petting zoo.

    Black women and white women maintain their hair in ways that are best for them. Even if it were true that most Black women have a “no touch” policy, so what? There are many ways of showing affection besides fondling a scalp, lol.

  44. AfroDandy wrote:

    When I was little it was a privilege to have my mother , aunt or grandma wash my hair and massage my scalp. Growing up I always told my mother that I wanted to marry a hair dresser (or a chef ) so my husband could wash my hair. I am not a dater, so I don’t have experience with intimates and hair touching. In the little experience I have had males have expressed admiration towards my hair, but not the desire to touch it…I would be open to it.

  45. ashlynn wrote:

    When I was younger, slathering grease in my hair felt so horribly unnatural. I NEVER liked it, nor understood it. I think that’s one of the reasons some BW don’t like having their hair touched- b/c they can sense how off it is, but don’t really know how to fix that.

    In gym class in high school, I used to give my girlfriends scalp massages. It’s very much like getting your hair washed at the salon, and very relaxing. Though more often than not, their hair was very greasy, I didn’t mind because I understood the sensitivity behind relaxing your hair, the self-consciousness you often feel(can people see my new growth? does it look damaged? I hope people don’t think I’m baldheaded…) , and so I felt it was my duty to try and rectify that- try and let them know that if a person or partner respects and cares for them, they will do all they can to understand their hair as well.

    I’m transitioning now, and I’m a bit more lax about people touching my hair. I mean, it’s still invitation-only, but I really do love to dig into the tight, soft curls that are growing out of my head, and I want to share it- particularly with other black women. I do feel self conscious about the difference in texture though, and I’m definitely not sold on letting the guy I’m interested in now(who is White) touch it. Hell, I’m not even sold on him touching the rest of me, for that matter- even though I KNOW that Black skin and hair is just as smooth, just as soft, and just as deserving as anyone else’s, I still often feel that I am made to feel so less wanted and valued by society at large.

  46. c.n.edaw wrote:

    This is what continues to irk me about these conversations. One black person–whether it be Chris Rock, Oprah, Tyra, or the author of this piece proclaims that black people don’t like something or that black hair is this way….so therefore it MUST be true for all black people. I HATE THAT!

    Or, if one black person does this that or the other for their hair, it must be true of ALL black people.

    I have relaxed hair. It was not until my late teens I determined why my thich long hair was so heavy and dull looking and sticky feeling and why I had outrageous dandruff despite my hair otherwise being healthy–because it didn’t need grease.

    All my life, my mom and her mom before her a nd all black stylists determined that if you are black (no matter what texture hair you have ) you MUST grease your scalp and hair with pore clogging petroleum based products, no less.

    Finally one stylist said “Why do you have all that crap in your hair? Based on your hair type and your scalp ,I guarantee if after I style your hair w/out oil… in three days your hair will be oily from the natural oil in your scalp and you will be dying to wash it.” She was right.

    I haven’t used grease, oil sheen, etc since. Sometimes I wash my hair once a week or sometimes every two weeks, it just depends. I may put a light oil on the ends if they get dry, but on the scalp I’m just asking for sticky, heavy, hair…and by the way the hairline and forehead acne I had for years from all that stuff…suddenly disappeared and I discovered I could in fact have a clear complexion.

    I just got done reading an article in ELLE or Vogue magazine (forget which) by a biracial woman proclaiming “Black hair doesnt grow. So black women don’t get hair cuts. Black hair only breaks.”

    Really? Mine has always grown. I have split ends occassionally, but so do white women, but I have never suffered lots of breakage and I am in fact a black woman. I have cut my hair more times than I can imagine. Going from super short at one poit to nearly waist length at one point.

    Yet, now every white woman reading ELLE believes I cannot get a hair cut because some other (at least partially) black woman said this is so for black women and thus the reason my co-worker asked me if I had extensions, despite the fact that my hair has grown at a normal rate.

    It wasn’t up to my ears on Friday and to my butt by Thursday. Yet, I get asked these dumb questions all the time because some black person proclaims what black hair is and does and doesn’t do as a blanket statement.

    Relax 6 to 8 weeks…are you crazy? I do it two three times a year maximum, because for me any more than that is damaging…but still someone speaking for all black women will declare I MUST do it every 6 to 8 weeks or face sheer disaster.

    A white friend saw some trailer about this film, where some woman talks about her scalp being constantly burned every time she relaxes and having blisters on her scalp. She then says to me ” Wow. I never knew how hard it was for you to make your hair look so good.”

    Well, I appreciate her empathy but in 20 years of relaxing I have been burned once by an inept stylist who refused to wash it out when I told her to, thus I never returned to her chair ever again.

    And if I had been burned as much as this woman in the trailer claims to have been, I cannot for my life understand why she would continue to relax. Not saying she has to have a fro, but I would seek out another styling option if it causes me pain and baldness, yet it is portrayed as though all black are willing to suffer as such to have straight hair. Or that we will trade rent money for a relaxer.

    No, we won’t all do that. I wore my hair curly/kinky or braided when I didn’t have a job requiring me to sport straight hair and I was too broke to get it done even minimally.

    I’ve had black and white boyfriends. Both have enjoyed playing with my hair. Since grade school boys have wanted to play with my hair. I am a black woman. It has never bothered me.

    Now people asking to touch out of some strange racial curiosity…yes that annoys me…but I blame all the blanket statements made about my hair by black people for that curiousity as much as I do the person who is curious. Usually they want to touch because someone told them “black people don’t do/ like/ have _______”.

    As for the kids in those classrooms. I know everyone wants to blame the media, but the only kids I know fascinated by “good hair” or “light skin” , etc have parents who are equally fascinated by those things or who make derogative statements about dark skin or kinky hair. When ever a child asks me about my hair, in two follow up questions I can usually ascertain they didn’t come to admire my “type” of hair on their own. It always goes back to a parental comment. Always.

  47. Nadege wrote:

    TOUCH MY HAIR, PLEASE.

  48. Kendra wrote:

    Personal Story:

    I remember watching a documentary on Walmart concerning its harm to local businesses and the people slaving away in sweatshops to provide US citizens with cheap products. Anyway, there was a segment featuring a Chinese couple. There was one scene where the Chinese boyfriend was washing his girlfriend’s hair. I couldn’t help but allow my mind to go on a tangent. I felt so envious. I thought, “I’d love it if a guy washed my hair like that; it looks like it feels good.” It had never really occurred to me before that an intimate could do that for someone; it’s always been done by either my mother or a hairstylist (family or otherwise).

    Anyway, I’m one black woman who wouldn’t mind a massage on my scalp. I’ve done it for my mom and she practically fell asleep under my hand.

    For me, it sounds like a nice thing to share with an intimate.

  49. Montclair Mommy wrote:

    @Leah, that makes me really irritated. The girls seem to be making lots of assumptions. Children love touching hair, period. My son touches straight, stringy blah hair every day (mine) and yet he never seems to tire of it. And he also loves to rub his dad’s bald head and touch his Grandma’s curls and his auntie’s braids. In short: just cuz those kids are touching those girls’ hair doesn’t make them special. It just means they are the ones available. Why would they assume that the children love touching their hair because they never feel hair like that? How do they know? How do they know the kids don’t say that to their mothers and sisters and cousins? From what I can tell, kids flatter pretty freely when they like someone.

    And if we’re assuming that they only think straight white hair is princess hair, it angers me that these future teachers would not find that upsetting and problematic. I would hope they would say something like, “Your hair is beautiful like a princess, too. I love all the colorful beads/lovely braids/soft curls!” I think making sure that children of all backgrounds are well represented in the posters, books, etc in the classroom is important as well. Obviously, we need more books out there with Black princesses (but without race being the whole topic of the book )

  50. Freakzeek wrote:

    I personally think Chris Rock Did a fantastic Job calling out ALL woman on their Inscecruites regarding their hair, in able to create discussion. I mean did anybody actually listen to him. He made the movie because he never wanted his daughter to think her hair wasn’t beautiful. Plus I loved the solage knowles hair oppression interview section

  51. Janice.. wrote:

    Oh, what perfect timing for such a post! I’m half haitian, and half inuit. I grew up in the North among Inuit and had no connections to my haitian father.. as a result, I was never exposed to any kind of conditioning (no pun intended :S) that my hair is anything but hair. We did however suffer though my mother’s lack of knowledge about black hair (I say we because both mom and i would cry when it was time to comb my hair. She would always just put it in two french braids after). Now that i’m 20, and on my own i’ve long since learned how to comb my own hair.

    People are always surprised at my hair, i always keep it in a bun because its so incredibly thick and curly and loong! if i pull it straight it’s the length of my arm. and my vurls are just perfect little curls, all pretty much the same size.. people ask me where i got it done.. but its my real hair.. I’m always told that i should model it, but i never wanted to.. i dont want to be a hair model.. I do however want to be a hair donor. I am going to cut it all off and donate it to Angel Hair For Kids.. Never in my life have i ever had short hair, and next weekend i will cut it down to one inch. I want to see, not only how i would look with short hair, but also how much of my sense of self, or ego lies in my long hair.. all the talk of ‘good hair bad hair’ has made me realize that I am not my hair. and i will not be defined by it.. I would rather be defined by my actions in this world then my physical attributes.. I hope I make someone happy..

  52. Joy wrote:

    Don’t touch my hair! LOL, unless you’re washing it, in that case I love the scalp massage. I don’t like touching other people’s hair either! I guess I have a hair phobia. I hate touching any hair except mine. :) I guess I might feel different with a significant other. About half my black friends also don’t like people touching their hair. And then the other half don’t mind petting/stroking each others’ hair. That’s fine – just don’t touch mine :)

    @c.n.edaw – oh my gosh! It makes me want to scream whenever I hear comments about black hair not growing – it’s called new *growth* for a reason people!! A woman might have trouble *retaining* length, but her hair is growing just fine. Sorry, personal rant. I’m fine now. :)

  53. Leah wrote:

    @Montclair Mommy, RainaWeather, and MoonCat, thanks for your suggestions and thoughts about how I can approach these conversations more effectively with teaching interns! I absolutely ask them if they told the children how beautiful their African American hair is. The struggle is that, to a great extent, these interns have not had on-going relationships with people of color, and have internalized beauty standards that privilege Whiteness. Of course, they have internalized a great deal about race/ethnicity, and it makes for on-going dialogue throughout their year-long internships. In regards to beauty (mis)standards, I’ve started recommending and lending them books to read to their classes– books that celebrate the beauty of the children. One book that is wonderful for this is a collection of fairy tales that are beautifully retold by Berlie Doherty and illustrated by Jane Ray to feature beautiful princesses and handsome princes that are all different shades of brown and peach. Another thing I love love LOVE about the book is that the paintings also show interracial princess-prince relationships. (Interracial families are sorely missing from children’s books.)

  54. c.n.edaw wrote:

    I should say I have only seen clips of this movie and a bit of the interviews on Oprah. I do plan to see it and reserve final judgement–perhaps, as is so often the case the media focus is on the extreme cases, and the movie is more balanced and objective.

    It just seems there’s an agenda that I don’t totally feel is fair to black women–especially coming from a black man whom I might add on his on television show “Everyone Hates Chris” seemed to only cast “good haired” little girls of all shades as his love interest. Might his own daughter have picked up on this?

    So far, it looks like a very common approach–which I am shocked a man as intelligent as Rock would go for-that in order to make my little girl feel better about herself (as supposedly the reason he made this film, is for her) I must ridicule black women and their entire relationship with their hair based on broad generalizations.

    I just wonder did it ever occurr to him that the same message would be conveyed had he assured his little girl that Daddy, and other black men, often fall in love with and are attracted to women who have hair just like hers.

    Additionally, that her hair does not define her, but even if it did, so what? She got that “bad hair” from him (or some other beloved relative) and she as his child, is a reflection of him and since he loves himself and he loves her too, that “bad hair” is okay.

    But instead ,let’s go after what’s wrong with black women and what some of them do to their hair that’s totally and utterly ridiculous and patently absurd to even the most casual observer, let alone anyone with any knowledge of the history of black hair care.

    I just don’t believe that I and my group of friends are the only black women in America who are not riddled with shame over a few inches of new growth; have never worn a weave or felt the need to get one no matter how many music videos I watched; have attended pool parties and dove in; and realized pretty early on that if my parents have a certain texture of hair, it just makes sense that I too might have inherited the very same texture of hair or some combination theereof and that’s just life and genetics at play. We cannot be the only ones who might wear our hair a certain way to keep a job ( and agree we shouldn’t have to) but on our own time do what we want and don’t feel particularly opressed either.

    And surely, I am not the only one whose parents realizing they are largely responsible for whatever I look like ,assured me that was okay. Seriously ,we cannot be that much of a minority.

  55. Sara Anderson wrote:

    Moviegirl, I do think it’s the case that when you use lip balm, your lips account for the fact that the moisture will stay there when it’s held in by wax or jelly or whatever it is you use.

  56. Freakzeek wrote:

    Did you people not hear Rock’s comments about solange, He saw her in a different light with her natural hair. He obviously wants woman not to be ashamed about there beautiful dark, kinky hair. I also liked how he pointed out woman who try to be unique but end up looking like everybody else. As A fellow Black Man, I’m usually attracted to woman with Natural Hair because I never get to see it. I will never understand How black woman allow Society to oppress their gorgeous natural hair & allow themselves to try to be something that their not & I hope never are. I love Black woman, & i want to love everything about you, even your kinks, to your black porcelain skin, to you beautiful eyes, to your soft hips & thighs. Take that fake ass hair of your head & be you.

  57. Ezekial wrote:

    I keep hearing White woman wear weaves too

    Regardless of who uses extensions for black women IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT LENGTH its about TEXTURE – and NOT BEING NAPPY!

    White women are not trying to change their texture.
    Indian women are not trying to change their texture.

    Indian women use Indian hair to extend their hair.

    Do black women use black women hair to extend their hair.

    Why Not!? What’s wrong with black people hair?!

    How come there’s no market for black people hair?

    OH I FORGOT BLACK PEOPLE HAIR IS SHIT AND NAPPY HAIR OR KINKY HAIR IS BAD.-Sarcasm

    But none of us have internalized that – Nope no SIR – we just want LENGTH – Not the Texture! …Right!?

    If it was all about length. – THEN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT’S WRONG WITH LOCKS!

    Everytiime I see a sista with locks – They are down her back…So help me out here – IF ITS ALL ABOUT LENGTH AND NOT TEXTURE PEOPLE.

  58. Robin wrote:

    Not that it’s any of my business, but I, a white male, and every other white male I’ve discussed this with, finds natural hair EXTREMELY attractive in black women. Afros especially… just wow. Society can go fuck itself.

  59. Medusa wrote:

    @Me:

    Your husband hates your natural hair???? That’s…awful.

  60. A.D. Nix wrote:

    @ c.n.edaw
    You are killing it with your salient points.

    Sections of my hair are relaxed (though I haven’t had a relaxer since Jan), some are not, some have recently been shaved off – I like the sculptural and the flat parts. I’ve been both totally relaxed and totally natural (though I love dying my hair now so it probably won’t be natural any time soon again). I’ve had more irritation from hair color than relaxer. Grease(?!) hasn’t touched my head since the late 80s. A weekly wash and condition keeps me in sheen and shine territory without any extra “assistance.” I’m not interested in hair orthodoxy directives from either side and I don’t understand the shaming and mocking of women out there who do straighten out of shame (which happens frequently in these conversations and which seems to be happening in Rock’s doc). Who does this benefit?

    Perhaps there should be less speaking for black women and more speaking to a range of us. One behavior (i.e. relaxing) does not translate to one experience.

    @ Courtney
    I think I have HIF syndrome too (for my head only, thank the stars). And I’ve been singing “Hand in Fro” to the tune of The Smith’s “Hand in Glove” since I read your comment.

    @ Me
    I’m sorry to hear that you think your husband hates your hair (has he said this outright?) Does this bother you? Have you talked about it?

  61. April wrote:

    @c.n. edaw:

    Thank you! Your comments pretty much sum up my opinion regarding this post and the other on black women’s hair (re: Tyra Banks). It seems like it’s common sport to ascribe some behavior to all black women and then turn it into a pathology.

    In this case, it happens to be based on rigorous anecdotal evidence from the grand sum of two people. The generalization here is almost as stale as the one about black women being inhibited in bed.

  62. siditty wrote:

    I cringed when I heard Oprah and Chris Rock were going to talk black hair, because I knew whatever they said would be applied to all, and those of us with natural hair would be omitted or severely limited in expressing our opinion.

    I’ve been natural since 1999. I went natural when my then fiance, now husband asked me why I went to the trouble to relax my hair. I didn’t have a reason except that is what is expected of me, that’’s what I’ve always done, and my hair natural was considered acceptable. I then wondered why my hair wasn’t acceptable, couldn’t find a reason and went natural.

    My husband plays in my hair constantly, and I don’t mind, but people have always played in my hair. Some do track checks (after all black people can’t grow hair) because I do have a lot of length, even as a natural, people do checks because, contrary to popular belief black people can’t all grow afros. We have different textures just like white people. Toddlers of all races love to play in my hair because of all the curls, and just reach in without asking. My mom without fail always plays in my hair, always has. She can’t help herself. She is always pulling the curls to check the length or telling me to get my hair out of my face :)

    In terms of grease, I rock coconut oil in my hair, and no one has ever told me my hair feels greasy. I do have people smell my hair sometimes though :) In terms of grease, I didn’t think even as a relaxed person it was required, and when I was relaxed, I used John Frieda because the stores near my home didn’t have Blue Magic.

    I just hope for a day when black women aren’t as children told their hair is inferior and that the only solution is a relaxer, hot comb, or weave.

  63. ashlynn wrote:

    @Courtney and @A.D. Nix:

    As a fellow black woman who is going to do the Big Chop tomorrow after 6 crazy months of transitioning- I cannot wait to experience this Hand In Fro Syndrome. I was a bit worried earlier about it, but you know what? My hair is on no one else’s head but mine, and I choose to love it the way it truly is. <3

  64. Aiyo wrote:

    I was hoping the movie would debunk a lot of myths and sterotypes but i’m kind of weary about the film now. Especially after that slave reference he made to Oprah, joke or not still irked me the way everyone laughed (and he wonders why his daughters asked him the question)

    Also after seeing clips of the Oprah show and him acting so damn surprised that it was all her hair really baffled me, did he really believe that black women can’t have long hair because if he did then that is stupid if our hair didn’t grow like humans then explain people with drealocks? I guess he just assumed all of them were weaves becuase I have got weaved checked when I’m rocking a afro or a straight do.

    And the “Are you mixed?” questions are just annoying I don’t think the film wil have a in depth look though since he said that he didn’t want to use the footage that focused on natural hair because it wasn’t “entertaining enough”.

  65. Val wrote:

    I can’t really make a lot of comment re: relaxed V natural V weaves, because I’m a multiracial coloured girl who has spent my whole life in Australia. The fashion here is definitely for long, straight blonde hair, so I like to think I’m bucking the trend with my chin-length thick curls. But I do understand a little of what it’s like to have people touch your head constantly. For about six months, I shaved my head to about half an inch. People were constantly running their fingers through it – mainly friends, but still, no-one was asking for my permission. It was even more frustrating when my hair was an inch or so long – I’d be like, “Get out of it! You’re busting up my gel!” Then I’d have to run to the bathroom and rehydrate all the flaky shards of product. Thankfully, fewer people touch my curls – most likely because they’d never be able to disentangle.

  66. Dawn wrote:

    I think there’s a misconception about the “no touch” policy. Please don’t touch my hair if it’s styled in an updo because you will mess it up. Please don’t touch my hair if it’s a weave or braids cuz I don’t want one to be pulled out. If my hair is natural/relaxed please don’t touch it because I DON’T KNOW YOU! If you’re my mom or grandma or cousins we take turns trying to manipulate each other into playing with our hair, not so much will you do it but can I go first?!?!

    As far as grease goes, I am 25 years old and haven’t put grease in my hair for at least 5 years. We used to put grease in it because of the hot comb… Most of us left the hotcomb behind but not the grease.

    I will be honest that I wear a weave, quick weave and a wig because it’s easier to manage. I keep my hair braided because I don’t feel like the extra time it would take. I’ve always considered myself LUCKY to have the option of not HAVING to wash and flat iron my hair ever day. I’ve always thought one of the coolest things about being a black is all the options I have with my hair!