From Margin to Center: Writing Characters of Color

by Guest Contributor Neesha Meminger, originally published at Justine Larbalestier

This essay was originally meant to be a short comment in response to Justine’s post on why her protags aren’t white. In one of the comments, someone brought up the old argument: if white people can only write white characters, then should people of color only write characters of color? Here is my response . . .

It’s a question of power and privilege. Most white people grow up thinking they have free range in everything from the political to the personal. People of color in Europe, Australia, and North America (and women everywhere), do not grow up learning these things. We learn to BE colonized. We learn, through history lessons from our colonizer’s textbooks, that we are not the invadERS, we are the invadED.

People of color know more about white people than we know about ourselves and one other because everything we are taught in the schools is by and about white people. Everything we see on television is by and about white people. Everything in magazines, on film, in books and on book covers is created by and about white people. Writers of color in the west almost always have white people in our books because that is what we know; it’s what is all around us.

Given this context, people of color writing *only* about people of color is an act of self-validation. It is an attempt at balancing something that is heavily skewed in one direction. (This reminds me a lot of the discussions and debates we used to have about why it is critical within a patriarchal/sexist context to have women-only spaces, and why in campuses all across the nation there are LGBTQ groups, etc.).

I create worlds in my books where people of color and women are at the center—not at the margins where we are habitually cast in the everyday world. This is a conscious decision. It is a political choice. Just as writing a book, film, or television series peopled ONLY with white folks is a political act, be it conscious or not.

On white authors writing characters of color: because the power imbalance leans so heavily to one side over the other, white authors absolutely must support the efforts of authors of color. White authors absolutely must people their stories with characters of color to reflect a reality they often have the privilege of ignoring, if they so choose.

I live in a fairly affluent part of New York City. We have a small apartment at the bottom of the neighborhood of course, but to the north of us are sprawling mansions with gorgeous, landscaped lawns and backyard pools. These mansions have their own security teams that patrol their streets to make sure no stranger ever gets lost and ends up roaming their quiet oasis. Down the hill from this neighborhood are the projects. It’s like two completely different nations living side by side. You’d be lucky to find a clump of trees huddled together in the projects—concrete as far as the eye can see. And the only nightly patrols are from the NYPD. Guess what the demographics of each of these neighborhoods is?

Gated communities, inner city projects, and massive wealth disparity allow white people the privilege of never having to come into any real contact with people of color and those nearer to the base of the socio-economic pyramid.

White folks, in general, need to turn *outward* and really see what’s outside of themselves and their immediate circles. And people of color must turn *inward*, to discover the true value within, then paint the world with it. 

This is how healing happens in any relationship where there is an abuse of power. Whether that relationship is parent-child, employer-employee, or whole groups, the resolution isn’t that both parties do exactly the same thing to make ammends. Both parties haven’t been giving the same thing and getting the same thing all along, so they have to get and give differently in order to mend.

This is why the whole idea of “if white people can only write white people, then PoC should only write PoC” simply does not hold water. It is DIFFERENT. It has been different all along. So the change—true, lasting change—has to be each party doing what THEY need to do to make that change happen for real. For the privileged, it means sharing privilege. For the non-privileged, it means valuing oneself enough to stand up, focus on their own self and say, “I am important. I deserve more. I will not put up with this any longer.”

Racism isn’t only an issue in “white” countries like those in Europe and North America—it is a global epidemic. And it is wiping out people of color in massive numbers. Women and children work in appalling conditions all over the globe, making clothes and playthings for wealthier Europeans and North Americans. Third world nations are on their knees in never-ending debt cycles to organizations run by a majority of European nations and the US. There is a widespread lack of clean water, adequate housing, access to hospitals and education everywhere outside of the US, Europe, North America, and Australia—though there is certainly some of that lacking within these areas, as well.

This, folks, is a HUGE power imbalance where those who are benefiting happen to be predominantly white, predominantly male, and almost always heterosexual.

So what do we do when there is such a tremendous power imbalance, and such a gross abuse/misuse of that power?

Well, let’s first look at it on a smaller, more personal scale. A child takes another child’s toy. What do you do? My guess is that you’d tell him to give the toy back. You’d tell him taking what’s not his is not okay and that he should apologize. If he wants to play with his friend, he has to share. And then you work on why sharing is far better than not if he wants friends, etc.

Okay, so now: what do you do if a child takes another child’s lunch and eats it? Not so easy. The child can’t give back what he took because it has been consumed.

This, in effect, is what racism does. The wealthiest of nations have taken resources from the (now) poorest of nations and consumed these resources. So how do we make it better?

Well, let’s go back to the children. Because, really, that’s where it all starts, isn’t it? I’m guessing that first, we’d likely have the child apologize for taking the other’s lunch. Next, we’d want to make sure the child who doesn’t have a lunch gets food. Third, we’d work with the child who took the food to find out why he’s taking the food and teach him to appreciate what he has and eat *his share*. Then, we’d work with the child whose food was taken to help him build up his sense of self-worth, learn to defend himself better, and ask for help if needed.

Different solutions for each party. The same is true in any situation where there is a power imbalance. In the case of domestic abuse, let’s say. If a woman is being beaten by her husband, you can’t simply tell her to hit him back or to walk away. There are deep issues at work and those need to be addressed. The abuser has a different path to recovery than the partner who is being abused. Different things to work on; different lessons to learn.

This also addresses (another of my pet peeves,) the “reverse” discrimination argument; an argument that doesn’t take into consideration the fact that oppression is about power imbalance—not just name-calling and hurt feelings.

In the case of a parent-child relationship, when a parent smacks a child with all his might, the effect is far different than when a child smacks a parent with all her might. The latter is not “reverse” abuse. The former results in lasting physical, emotional, psychological, and spiritual scarring while the second leaves hardly an imprint. Why? Because there is a massive power imbalance on every level. The child is completely dependent on the parent for her very survival. And the parent is far stronger and bigger than she is.

In the context of racism, an insult—while it may sting for a moment—cannot leave lasting damage if there is no real power behind it. We do not have a mostly-black police force with mostly-black commissioners who are backed by a mostly-black team of judges and mostly-black politicians (please note that “mostly-black” could also be replaced here with “mostly-female” or “mostly-gay” and you’d get the same idea).

So when round after round of bullets is pumped into unarmed civilians in Brooklyn, the Bronx, Harlem, Chicago, Atlanta, or elsewhere, the result is a ripple of terror the likes of which most white people could never possibly relate to.

A racial slur flung from a white person to a person of color shames, humiliates, and inspires fear. It is designed to remind that person of color of all of the degradation s/he knows was inflicted upon people who looked like them throughout history at the hands of people who look just like the one who is insulting them now.

It is the equivalent of a parent yelling “I HATE YOU” to a child. Big difference in the impact that has over a child hurling the same statement at their parent.

Likewise, when people throw racial slurs like “Paki” toward South Asians, or derogatory terms toward women, or equally denigrating terms toward lesbians and gay men, anything these same groups hurl back cannot possibly have the same impact. It might hurt feelings, but that is NOT the same as the lasting shame, humiliation, and fear that hearing an insult from someone with power to follow it up with action, invokes.

As authors of literature for children and teens, these power imbalances are at the crux of what we explore. Some of the best books for children and teens that I’ve ever had the joy of reading were about feisty children questioning their world and challenging authority head on. The way we explore these issues as authors and resolve them in the worlds we create in our books is critical. And the ways we deal with the world around us—the context for our art—is just as critical.

The first step is understanding the complexity of the issues. Then, we move on to realizing that there isn’t ONE solution. We all have to do something, but it isn’t the same thing—this is NOT a level playing field. We must all work together to bring about a more equitable, just, and sane world for our children, and the children of others. But we must each recognize and own the privilege we have, and use that privilege to help us all move forward. It is a collaborative effort where we must each do our part, search deep within for answers, listen carefully to the quieter voices around us, raise the voices of the silenced, and remain stead fast in our commitment to the young people in our lives.

Update: Whoa, getting a lot of angry responses from whites to this essay. Do me a favor, to make my moderation easier – make sure that your comment shows a critical enagagement with issues of race, not just a reaction to whites being represented as one group. That, as of now, is the difference between an approved comment and a deleted one. Also, our friends over at Resist Racism have a good primer on Racism 101. Please pay special attention to #7. – LDP

Update 2:
So apparently, the same conversation dynamic happened on Justine’s blog. Neesha posted a response on her own blog, I’ll grab a segment to reproduce here:

If simply reading about race upsets you, this may not be the time for frank and open dialogue on the subject. This is not bad. For real healing to take place, we have to be prepared to *actively* listen — this includes the willingness to hear/read things that might upset us. Knowing where we are in our process indicates how helpful it will be for us, and we for it. If you are not ready, you will not be able to hear without feeling attacked; you will not be able to speak without getting defensive; and you will not be able to support the efforts of others without drawing all of the energy in the room to your own personal pain. This does not mean “don’t ask questions.” It just means, “do more listening.”

Race is a difficult subject for all of us to broach. There is pain and anger on all sides. But taking things personally derails the conversation so that we are not moving forward. The issue at hand, that Janni captured so succinctly in comment #35, is that power imbalances work differently for those who benefit from the imbalance and those who do not. As such, the things we each need to do to stop the imbalance of power are different.

One of my favorite quotes of all time is one that I am sure I will badly paraphrase, but you’ll get the idea:
“The only way to get someone off your back is to stand up.”

What I’m suggesting in my post is that the people who are standing on the backs of others recognize that there is someone underneath them–upon whose labor, sacrifice, or oppression we are able to build our comfortable homes and lives–and that we begin the process, immediately, of stepping off.


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Comments

  1. Jana wrote:

    Woooow your essay is very arrogant. How can you say that you know more about white people than about yourself? Really, what do you know about white people? You talk like white people are a homogenous group which is definitely not the case; we’re very diverse–a Romanian person is very different than a French person.

    So please do tell, what do you know about Romanian/French/Croatian/Serbian/Finnish/etc culture? My bet is that you know nothing about them.

    What you do know about is maybe WASP culture, which forms North American and maybe Australian but definitely NOT European culture. There is no such thing as a European culture; Europe is made up of different countries whose cultures differ greatly among them.

    And even I, as an European immigrant to Canada, had to learn about Canadian culture, seeing as it is very different than my own. And that is to be expected, when you migrate to a different country, you should learn that country’s culture. For example, if I were to go China or Ethiopia, I would have to learn the local culture.

  2. N wrote:

    That was very good! Thanks for sharing. I’ll be passing this along.

  3. Matt wrote:

    yes, absolutely.

  4. Sobia wrote:

    Excellent piece!

    I love your analogy of the child taking the other child’s lunch.

    Thanks!

  5. atlasien wrote:

    @Jana: please learn the difference between rac and ethnicity.

    How aware of you of the fact that you’re white? How much time have you spent thinking of yourself as a member of a race? You’ve probably only thought of yourself as white in the context of denying that you have any race at all… you obviously want to be represented as only have a culture or ethnicity, not a race.

    People who are not white, on the other hand, do not have the luxury of pretending that race doesn’t exist or that we don’t have a race. We’re forced to think about it on a much more frequent basis. We have college degrees in it while you’re barely in kindergarten. It’s not because we want to, it’s because we have to.

    But let’s concentrate more on ethnicity for a second, for the sake of following your example. If you were to go to China now, you would be an expatriate or an immigrant.

    But if you were raised within China, as a minority… say, somewhere surrounded by Han Chinese, without any special privilege (so you’d have to be some kind of non-white minority)… so that your economic and social success was totally determined by how well you understood the majority culture, and how well you understood how the majority culture viewed you, as an insider/outsider, then yes, you would absolutely become an expert, better at understanding majority Chinese than they understood themselves.

    That’s the exact same dynamic the author of this post is talking about. It works on a global level as well. The minority living within the majority will always understand more about the majority than the majority understands about itself, because the survival of the minority depends on this knowledge.

    Because of the legacy of the colonialism and imperialist racial hierarchies, white European culturally Christian people don’t occupy that minority position. You can’t just flip it for them. No matter where they are or how few they are, they still have privilege that other non-white people don’t. For example, white people are greatly in demand as English teachers in China in a way that non-white English speakers aren’t.

  6. Deaf Indian Muslim Anarchist wrote:

    

People of color know more about white people than we know about ourselves and one other because everything we are taught in the schools is by and about white people. Everything we see on television is by and about white people. Everything in magazines, on film, in books and on book covers is created by and about white people. Writers of color in the west almost always have white people in our books because that is what we know; it’s what is all around us.

    EXACTLY. And I think the 1st commentator misses the point of your essay. When you speak of “white,” I think of the homogenous American WASP or the British WASP.

    I am ashamed to say that as a child, I knew more about British history than I do about history of my own culture. and you know what? It pissed me off.

  7. Deaf Indian Muslim Anarchist wrote:

    Atlaisen is right.

    I want to add one more point to the white privilege– white people always get better service over Indians (whether NRI, PIOs, or residents) in India, at restaurants, hotels, and tourist sites. White people are ALWAYS favored over Indians in India.

    Oh yeah, you read that right. Fuck.

  8. A. wrote:

    Good job Jana. You completely missed the point of this essay.

  9. HL wrote:

    I see a lot wrong with this essay, mainly in the way it angrily lumps all white societies on earth together and the way many comments presume to know what that white people NEVER think about race. White people read this blog too- precisely because we DO think about race. I think about the racial issues of my country (USA) every single day.

    To presume that white people couldn’t possibly know about bullets being pumped into their neighborhoods…right, because Northern Irish or Bosnians aren’t white? (The essayist lumped Europe and the US together, so let’s go there)

    Or that white privilege somehow allows white people to never see or think about black people. Maybe in you affluent New York neighborhood, but not where I’m from. I went to school, work, do shopping and business with the black community of my town and my being white didn’t make that impossible. A neighboring county in my state is 80% black. If the black people of that county didn’t want to see or talk to white people their whole lives, they probably wouldn’t have to. So, speak for New York and not the entire world.

    As if developing countries don’t turn around and exploit less developed countries. Because India and China are exploiting Africa just as they too were once exploited. Is exploitation purely about race and an ideology of white supremacy? Or is it about something much simpler; money.

    Tell me what you want and I will do it. I want things to get better and I see no solutions offered in this essay. Write an essay on solutions.

  10. Persia wrote:

    As authors of literature for children and teens, these power imbalances are at the crux of what we explore. Some of the best books for children and teens that I’ve ever had the joy of reading were about feisty children questioning their world and challenging authority head on. The way we explore these issues as authors and resolve them in the worlds we create in our books is critical. And the ways we deal with the world around us—the context for our art—is just as critical.

    This is really important, and something I need to keep in mind in my own writing. Thanks for the essay.

    (Also, some people in this thread might find Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack more useful than attacking the poster.)

  11. RMJ wrote:

    I’ll be including this in my daily roundup. A lot of good 101-level analogies here – I’m said that angry white folks aren’t listening.

  12. Rob wrote:

    My earlier comment was deleted. I really don’t think that it was all that objectionable even judged by the criteria that have been added in the update. It certainly wasn’t angry.

    I agreed with the original post on the absurdity of ‘reverse discrimination’, but I did argue that it’s possible for individual members of an otherwise privileged groups to suffer discrimination based on their membership of said group, even if most of the rest of the group do not. Whilst membership of certain groups tends to correlate with being powerful, this correlation is not universal.

    I disagreed with the author’s analogy of inter-personal relationships and inter-group relationships, because it fails to recognise that individuals within groups can vary significantly. Some members of generally powerful groups can be powerless (perhaps due to membership of another oppressed group) and some members of generally powerless groups can be powerful (perhaps due to membership of another privileged group). When examining the power relationship between those two individuals it’s insufficient to consider just one axis of group membership and privilege.

    Of course, just because a correlation is ‘merely’ a correlation doesn’t make it irrelevant. The fact that there is a correlation between race and power is a despicable aspect of modern society. But ignoring the existence of people for whom the correlation does not hold in fact makes it easier for racists to defend their position: for example, racist political parties in Europe focus most of their campaigning/recruitment efforts on the poor and socially excluded whites, to great effect.

    My personal view is that whilst we can talk in the abstract about inter-group power imbalances, at the decision-making level we need to consider individuals in the round, taking all of their privileges and oppressions into consideration. I genuinely hope that this is not deemed to be an objectionable viewpoint and I hope to be able to discuss it further if it is.

  13. A. wrote:

    HL – not only did white people come in and colonize countries in Africa, they also added an element that the Chinese and Indians aren’t – racial stratification. The very reason for race to even be established was to keep white people in a dominant, superior position. Which is exactly what was done.

    And in general, yes. What the OP is saying is correct – while where you may have lived is an exception rather than a rule, but often times, white people do live in such an insular world (and generally choose to) to where they do NOT have to necessarily communicate with other PoC unless it is by choice. If this weren’t the case, do you think that there would be nearly as much clueless racist shit going on?

    I also personally think that it’s rather laughable that the white people in here are getting upset about being lumped together by the OP. Guess what – Black People and other PoC get lumped together ALL OF THE TIME. That’s also a sort of privilege speaking – the privilege to be able to think of yourself as an “individual” whereas PoC are often treated as one big giant monolith.

  14. Erika wrote:

    Wow, some of the comments hurt my head to read them. Some people obviously have never read this blog before.

    I actually disagree that white people can’t/shouldn’t write POC characters; freedom of expression is important to me, and I think authors should be able to write about things they have never personally experienced. That doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be criticized if they write something that is problematic, though, and they should be encouraged to do as much research as possible, of course.

    I also had something interesting to add regarding Rob’s latest comment –
    …I did argue that it’s possible for individual members of an otherwise privileged groups to suffer discrimination based on their membership of said group, even if most of the rest of the group do not. Whilst membership of certain groups tends to correlate with being powerful, this correlation is not universal.

    Someone I knew had that happen to them while they were teaching in a poorer, mostly Black neighborhood in Brooklyn; he was denied a say in a lot of things and were treated horribly by a superior because he was white, as were some other people he taught with. Black teachers were given special privileges they were not.

    I really don’t think that is acceptable behavior in any way; it would be very different if they had been taunted verbally (and if he had told me that he was made fun of/etc., I would have laughed and told him exactly what people here are saying — you’re white, you have privilege and you have the capacity to harm a POC a lot more with what you say), but this was from a higher-up who was abusing her power. Despite her being Black and therefore societally having less power than him, within their school he was subservient and could easily be let go because of her.

  15. Restructure! wrote:

    @Rob:

    I disagreed with the author’s analogy of inter-personal relationships and inter-group relationships, because it fails to recognise that individuals within groups can vary significantly. Some members of generally powerful groups can be powerless (perhaps due to membership of another oppressed group) and some members of generally powerless groups can be powerful (perhaps due to membership of another privileged group). When examining the power relationship between those two individuals it’s insufficient to consider just one axis of group membership and privilege.

    Of course, just because a correlation is ‘merely’ a correlation doesn’t make it irrelevant. The fact that there is a correlation between race and power is a despicable aspect of modern society. But ignoring the existence of people for whom the correlation does not hold in fact makes it easier for racists to defend their position: for example, racist political parties in Europe focus most of their campaigning/recruitment efforts on the poor and socially excluded whites, to great effect.

    What do you mean white privilege is only correlational? Are you saying that poor whites don’t have white privilege, or gay whites don’t have white privilege?

  16. veebot wrote:

    @deaf indian muslim anarchist

    Its exactly the same in nigeria. I grew up knowing all about britiain and hardly anything about Nigeria. Shoot, if wasnt for the fact that i read alot i probably wouldnt even know that other african countries existed.

    I hope one day to erase all that british history from our text books and replace it with nigerian history. Give ourselves some pride.

  17. Rob wrote:

    Restructure @15:

    In effect, yes. White people who are in poverty are often excluded from society in many ways and even their whiteness is insufficient to counter-balance that. Many of the institutions of mainstream culture are closed to them, irrespective of their race. The question of whether they are privileged is difficult to answer; if they are, they certainly derive little benefit from it. In certain circumstances, they may even believe that they are suffering from being a poor white person. Psychologically it is very difficult to, on the one hand, be excluded from the benefits of society and yet, on the other, be told that you are ‘privileged’ (even if it’s true). The fact that they are meant to be privileged actually increases the disdain that richer whites have for them – they (the poor/underclass) had every advantage whiteness could give them and they’re still poor!

    Does any of this excuse racism on the part of poor white people? Absolutely not. As the OP rightly points out, we need a time of healing, and present-day racism merely prolongs the historical force of racism. It just seems to me that, at times, the language of the debate over-simplifies the experience of individuals. We talk about one group oppressing another in ways that make little sense to individuals who are, when the final calculations are made, themselves greatly under-privileged, if not by their race then by other factors.

    My perfect future would be one in which it doesn’t even make sense to talk about groups in this way, in which every individual is basically free to pursue their own ideas about what their culture should be. I’m not sure how widely shared that view is amongst ‘progressives’ in the broadest sense of the term.

  18. atlasien wrote:

    @Rob: “The fact that they are meant to be privileged actually increases the disdain that richer whites have for them – they (the poor/underclass) had every advantage whiteness could give them and they’re still poor!”

    Are you really arguing that poor white people are worse off than poor people of color? If you are, that’s an ignorant and totally unsupportable argument. Compare different racial groups of the same income level and it completely falls apart. For example, this study:

    Devah Pager, a sociologist at Northwestern University in Evanston, Ill., sent equally matched pairs of testers – two black and two white – to apply for low-skilled jobs at 350 places of employment in the Milwaukee area and found that white ex-offenders were more likely to be called back for an interview than black applicants who had no criminal record.

    Even for “model minorities”, by objective measures and studies, comparable outcomes are usually significantly worse than for white people.

    We’re not arguing that race trumps class. They’re both powerful forces that work through each other and intersect. But you seem to be invested in the idea that class trumps race.

    Don’t compare Will Smith to an archetypal impoverished, disabled white man from rural Appalachia. Make real comparisons and look at real data.

  19. Jha wrote:

    I love this essay – it really lends power for an argument against racism and how “reverse racism” just doesn’t exist.

    What bothers me most about this framing is how it’s usually centered around white people, still, because we’re looking at a context which is white-dominated. Even as we talk about PoC empowering themselves to distance themselves from the colonized mindset (which is a result of white colonization, yes), in a sense to retain the center around white people is still playing into the ol’ power structure. (Kinda like how we occasionally used “mixed race” to describe “half-white”.)

    I truly love that analogy of a child hitting a parent not being the same as abuse – that’s so analogous to many power relations, whether racial or not.

  20. Restructure! wrote:

    @Rob: Please read Explaining White Privilege to the Deniers and the Haters by Tim Wise:

    [...] race and class privilege are not the same thing.

    Though we are used to thinking of privilege as a mere monetary issue, it is more than that. Yes, there are rich black and brown folks, but even they are subject to racial profiling and stereotyping (especially because those who encounter them often don’t know they’re rich and so view them as decidedly not), as well as bias in mortgage lending, and unequal treatment in schools. So, for instance, even the children of well-off black families are more likely to be suspended or expelled from school than the children of poor whites, and this is true despite the fact that there is no statistically significant difference in the rates of serious school rule infractions between white kids or black kids that could justify the disparity (according to fourteen different studies examined by Russ Skiba at Indiana University).

    As for poor whites, though they certainly are suffering economically, this doesn’t mean they lack racial privilege. I grew up in a very modest apartment, and economically was far from privileged. Yet I received better treatment in school (placement in advanced track classes even when I wasn’t a good student), better treatment by law enforcement officers, and indeed more job opportunities because of connections I was able to take advantage of, that were pretty much unavailable to the folks of color I knew growing up. Likewise, low income whites everywhere are able to clean up, go to a job interview and be seen as just another white person, whereas a person of color, even who isn’t low-income, has to wonder whether or not they might trip some negative stereotype about their group when they go for an interview or sit in the classroom answering questions from the teacher. Oh, and not to put too fine a point on it, but even low-income whites are more likely to own their own home than middle income black families, thanks to past advantages in housing and asset accumulation, which has allowed those whites to receive a small piece of property from their families.

  21. Bianca Reagan wrote:

    How can you say that you know more about white people than about yourself?

    Jana, I have said the same thing myself (meaning I know more about white people than they know about me) and I will continue to do so. Because it is true. I know all about where white people can find products for hair care, skin care, along with books, movies and TV shows centered around people who look and act like they do. Conversely, most white people wouldn’t know where to find any of those things for black people, Latino people or any other nonwhite people.

    Thank you for this, Justine!

  22. Baiskeli wrote:

    @Deaf Indian Muslim Anarchist

    Atlaisen is right.

    I want to add one more point to the white privilege white people always get better service over Indians (whether NRI, PIOs, or residents) in India, at restaurants, hotels, and tourist sites. White people are ALWAYS favored over Indians in India.

    Oh yeah, you read that right. Fuck.

    In Africa too.

    Read Obama’s “Dreams of My Father”, about how they were treated at a restaurant in Kenya. They were skipped over while whtites were served left and right. Reading that passage made me ashamed of my country.

    And I do have to agree that blacks know more about whites than whites know about blacks. In Kenya, I learnt so much about Europe and America that I have it coming out of my ears, but nary about Africa (I did a lot of reading on Africa after I came to the U.S and had a few experiences that opened my eyes). But it is the rare American who can even point to my country on a map.

  23. Jess wrote:

    I think the problem Jana and Rob are having — Rob less so — is twofold. First, relations between privileged and non-privileged can get very fluid because race, class and ethnicity aren’t static and they aren’t simple one-to-one relationships.

    Second, the way issues of difference crop up in the US is rather different from the way it does in Europe. In Europe especially there were, for instance, groups of white people who oppressed other groups of white people and race as we construct it in America had little to do with it.

    Take Yugoslavia. Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians all speak what is basically the same language (only post-1991 dictionaries have separate Serbian and Croatian volumes– the ones from earlier describe it as Serbo-Croatian and really, the big difference is the alphabet used) and to anyone outside they look the same. Yet issues of privilege and discrimination ran deep enough that not one, but two fascists got elected. And lots of people ended up dead.

    Or Rwanda. There’s a case to be made that the division between Hutu and Tutsi was a social one (that is, based on the professions people were in, even pre-colonization). But one group tried privileging itself over the other, to deadly effect.

    Anyhow, those kinds of situations are different. Racism in the US (and the European colonialists) were a different dynamic, though similar in that it privileges one group over another.

    I think Rob is partly right. Individual members of any group (white people in this case) didn’t make the worked as it is and there is a gigantic power differential between the white dude who works at GM on the line and the CEO. At an individual level, a lot of white people would say “well, wait a minute, Henry Louis Gates may get stopped by a cop, but he lives in a house I could never afford and he can get on TV, I can’t.”

    But the problem is figuring out that a lot of this isn’t a blanket condemnation of individual people.

    Another thing: I would modify the statement that PoC have to learn more about white culture(s) than the reverse a bit. I would say that they are forced to learn certain things about it, but that too, distorts things a lot. Just as I, working in a factory, was forced to learn all the moods and foibles of my boss, that didn’t mean I knew anything about him, really. Just the bits that I needed to survive the job.

    In a similar vein, I’d say a lot of PoC — and I have met a few like this — know very little about their white counterparts in some interesting ways. Yeah, all the media is produced by white people, but it is mostly fiction. Sex in the City isn’t representative of my world, nor is Friends. It’s a little bit like when white people only see the MTV/BET face of hip-hop. The relation isn’t equal– I am not saying it is, far from it– but the distortions can work both ways and it’s really sort of sad. (And by the way I must say that I came to this idea after reading Fanon).

  24. ashlynn wrote:

    I promise I will add a legitimate comment after a much needed nap, but Erica, you wouldn’t happen to be talking about the old John Jay Hs in Brooklyn, would you? A very similar incident occurred while I went there, and before I drop some knowledge in here(lol), I want to know if I can use this story as an example.

  25. CaitieCat wrote:

    That’s an excellent post, thank you, and gives me much to think about as a white author. I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately about writing characters of colour in my works; in the past, I’ve avoided doing so because I don’t want to colonize POCs’ experience, but if my doing so is the right act for an aiming-to-be-less-racist-more-often writer, then that’s what I’ll do.

    And when I fuck up, I’ll take my medicine properly. And hopefully, remember to be grateful for people willing to take the time to tell me where I fucked up.

    Thanks again.

  26. m. wrote:

    This was a great post! I have yet to read any worthwhile characters of color written by white people – more specifically, Indians (except for Bromden in ‘One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest’, and even that book was problematic in many ways), so I am leery of most authors who aren’t of color writing characters that are. To be perfectly honest, I have my doubts that newer white authors are even capable of doing it without screwing it up – from putting a character out there that is prematurely developed to writing cheesy dialogue to giving the character a name that only a white person would have. I do keep an open mind, though – it IS part of the healing process that was mentioned, right?

    @ atlasien:
    “Don’t compare Will Smith to an archetypal impoverished, disabled white man from rural Appalachia. Make real comparisons and look at real data.”
    I know this was a serious comment but it made me laugh – I get the feeling that the white people I’ve heard rant about class have really got it in their heads that they (or other “poor”/working class white people) ARE that differently-abled Appalachian man. Hahahaha. I always feel the urge to say, “In what context are we speaking, here?” Class IS important. I have a hard time separating it from my experiences, but that doesn’t mean it trumps race.

    As far as people on here talking about feeling ignored or “lumped into a group” (as if that’s a bad thing – why the seeming obsession with individualism and being seen as “different”? Do y’all know how special snowflake you sound?), I’d like to turn the tables: it’s been my experience that you see people of color as a monolith (especially my own people), so why do you care so much that people of color research your individual histories and coddle those of non-WASP status? To those white commentors living here in North America: you *are* of settler status, so what do you know about the Indigenous peoples whose territory you are currently occupying? Why should I care about your Irish/Russian/whatever ancestry when you are over here on stolen land? Can you name as many peoples or tribes/bands as you can European, Asian, et cetera ethnicities? No, but seriously: YOU’RE ALL DERAILING. This post was never about ethnicity or class! It’s actually racist to say the post “angrily lumps all white societies together” (HL, #9) because you do not like what the author has to say – in fact, she does not sound ‘angry’ at all. If you are feeling “lumped together”, perhaps that is just your OWN anger and attempt of denial in being complicit in oppression. You may have an ethnicity (EVERYONE DOES), you may be poor or working class, but you are not absolved of white privilege.

  27. RCHOUDH wrote:

    Thanks Neesha for a well written thoughtful post! It’s a shame though that some commenters are trying to deny that white privilege exists. It just goes to show that conversations regarding racism and its lingering effects upon society will be few and far between so long as many people out there (particularly the privileged ones) fail to realize how much of an impact racism still has upon our society. So long as people take critique of the status quo on a personal level, I fear we will not be able to move conversations regarding race any further.

  28. DMoon wrote:

    YOU’RE ALL DERAILING. This post was never about ethnicity or class! It’s actually racist to say the post “angrily lumps all white societies together” (HL, #9) because you do not like what the author has to say – in fact, she does not sound ‘angry’ at all. If you are feeling “lumped together”, perhaps that is just your OWN anger and attempt of denial in being complicit in oppression. You may have an ethnicity (EVERYONE DOES), you may be poor or working class, but you are not absolved of white privilege.

    ************************************

    Excellent points. It never ceases to amaze me how Angry Whites get when POC have the god awful nerve to lump them into one big seething monolith of dysfunction when they have been doing to POC for CENTURIES, using science, technology and all of their tools to prove that racial categories explain behavior, culture, and traits. In other words Whites have never stopped labeling and grouping POC together as a monolith.

    I also think it angers them that POC should presume to know so much about Whites when their knowledge of POC is so pathetically thin. POC can’t possibly know them since as you aptly noted, they are so special and unique “like a snowflake”, but they have no problem using FBI crime stats, the Bell Curve, and everything else to explain the reality of POC.

  29. distance88 wrote:

    White (non-angry), male, straight, tail-end of the 18-35 bloc… currently wondering how I can be a better anti-racist…

    Racism is predominantly a white problem, so it stands to reason that white’s are going to have to solve it (I know, it makes me nervous too).

    BUT given that we were indoctrinated with all the white-is-right stuff in all of our institutional dealings, our sense and perception of race tends to need some work (and some perceptions need more work than others). And because of that, like it or not, we’re not going to get out of this mess without the help of PoC.

  30. LaTonya wrote:

    #25. m,
    While you may not have read any books that you deem credible where a white author has written POC characters that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

    And Neesha doesn’t argue white authors can’t or shouldn’t. In fact she wrote:

    White authors absolutely must people their stories with characters of color to reflect a reality they often have the privilege of ignoring, if they so choose.

    She does argue that a white author who doesn’t have experience with POC will have to do serious research to write an authentic voice and portrayal. I believe somewhere she says talk with people of color.

    The site where this article originally published is run by Justine Larbalestier, a white author who very successfully writes characters of color. Justine is an ally of people of color so for those who have implied Neesha is angry at all white folks, I suggest you do a little more reading rather than reacting, and I also suggest asking questions, ask for clarification before you make erroneous conclusions.

    I’m going to date myself here and say as a child I loved Jack Ezra Keats who wrote the character Peter. I loved these books and I assumed Keats was black. He was not. Justine Larbalestier’s MCs are POC and her books are well-written and accurate characterizations. Chris Crutcher’s character, Tao a biracial teen is believable.

    When we discuss race, it would be helpful to come to the discussion willing to hear a perspective and consider the validity of it regardless if you agree with it.

    I am often frustrated that when we talk about race as it relates to literature. As a voracious reader and a committed literacy advocate who promotes and supports multiculturalism and diversity, let me say it would be helpful if participants were actually readers and even better if you actually read multicultural literature or literature where POC characters are prominent. This post is about the intersection of race and literature.

    Another example of making broad strokes instead of focusing on the specifics. If you don’t read POC writers or works with POC characters, you are coming to this discussion with a deficit.

    This article was not an general debate about white privilege or racism. It is about the intersection of white privilege, racism and literature. It is about how we are and not represented in literature.

  31. Pazi wrote:

    @Jana:

    Your white skin gets you a lot of free passes in society that a darker-skinned person who was an enculturated citizen of your home country wouldn’t enjoy, both at home and abroad. Your ranting about ethnicity only shows off your denial of this fact.

    In fact, you seem to be so butthurt about the post that your reply feels very off-topic and derailing.

    People of color can know more about whites and whiteness, and how that affects our lives, than we do because they don’t have the luxury of ignoring race.

    @ Rob:

    In effect, yes. White people who are in poverty are often excluded from society in many ways and even their whiteness is insufficient to counter-balance that.

    Do you honestly think that, as bad as these people may have it, they wouldn’t have it *worse* if they also had to deal with being PoC and experiencing racism on top of their problems? I’m queer, trans, disabled, a woman, and impoverished, but that doesn’t mean my whiteness doesn’t cut me some slack in ways a queer, trans, disabled, impoverished black woman would be denied. You seem very invested in minimizing the effects of race on how people are treated.

    The question of whether they are privileged is difficult to answer

    No it’s not. You just need to stop oversimplifying things and recognize that a person can be disadvantaged in some ways, and advantaged in others. You don’t *sum* the effects of privileged status and oppressed status to arrive at some weird tally that states your total power in society. In a society where the police are mostly white, and white people are accorded privilege for their race, anyone black has a lot more to fear from the police than a given white person, all other things being equal. “White privilege” doesn’t mean people think all whites are rich and without a care; it means that society tends to treat white people better. Even if it treats poor people badly, it treats poor white people better than poor black people, and that kind of racism is quite evident among poor whites as well. Society treats queer people badly (even in countries where marriage is legal queer folk still are still very much Othered and oppressed), but white queer people tend to display racism within their own community, creating a hostile environment for queer people of color.

    Do you get this? It’s about the way these various privileges intersect, not about people thinking you’ve got no problems at all because you’re white. What you’re saying is derailing and ignorant.

    @DMoon:

    It never ceases to amaze me how Angry Whites get when POC have the god awful nerve to lump them into one big seething monolith of dysfunction when they have been doing to POC for CENTURIES, using science, technology and all of their tools to prove that racial categories explain behavior, culture, and traits. In other words Whites have never stopped labeling and grouping POC together as a monolith.

    This. So very much.

    As an anti-racist white person (who still has a lot to learn), it’s deeply frustrating to see other white people viewing everyone else through the lens of outgroup homogeneity, and still moreso when someone who doesn’t really appreciate that this is how PoC are treated still today gets upset that someone, anyone might even dare to group them in with other white people on the basis of race.

    @m:

    It’s actually racist to say the post “angrily lumps all white societies together” (HL, #9) because you do not like what the author has to say – in fact, she does not sound ‘angry’ at all.

    Indeed. Neesha doesn’t sound angry at all; her tone didn’t come across to me as even slightly confrontational, other than in the sense of pointing out a problem and trying to discuss it. Which is not even remotely the same as a raging dismissal of white people.

    @LaTonya:

    White authors absolutely must people their stories with characters of color to reflect a reality they often have the privilege of ignoring, if they so choose.

    She does argue that a white author who doesn’t have experience with POC will have to do serious research to write an authentic voice and portrayal. I believe somewhere she says talk with people of color.

    As a white reader and author, I accept I’m not very good at this stuff because I’m inexperienced with it. For most of my life I haven’t even had to acknowledge that there was a problem, much less how complex and systemic it is. But that doesn’t free me from feeling obligated to try. I go out of my way to read work by authors of color, and can only say it’s been a deeply rewarding, enriching and often challenging experience. I write characters of color as the protagonists in my stories, and try to incorporate a sense of how colonization has shaped history in my worldbuilding and when coming up with the settings. And I try to interact with other white authors and readers, and shoulder some of the burden of addressing racism and racefail in the literary world.

    I’m not looking for a cookie or anything, just trying to affirm your point.

  32. vcious wrote:

    *raises hand* Here’s one non-angry white who loved the post.

    I like how it begins discussing the issue at hand but concludes with a well-reasoned attack on the so-called “reverse racism”. A friend of a friend once told me about her life, growing up in a mostly-black neighborhood, and how being called a cracker hurt.. I always wanted to argue to her, hey, I’m sure it did hurt, but you and me still reap the benefits of white privilege, but I just didn’t have enough knowledge to base my argument on.

    I try to think back on the books I read as a kid, not a lot diversity as I recall it. I wonder, would my outlook on the world be different if the books had showed me more diversity than I encountered in real life? If my favourite fictional character was another race? No way to tell, but I have a feeling it would have.

  33. Genevieve wrote:

    White people read this blog too- precisely because we DO think about race. I think about the racial issues of my country (USA) every single day.

    The thing is, though, if you’re coming here to find out more about race, racism, racial issues, if you’re coming here to educate yourself, than you need to listen, not just dismiss the essay with “but not all white people are like XYZ!” Generally, individual white peoples’ interactions with individual people of color are not what are being analyzed here, but rather systemic inequalities. And since it sounds as though you are implying that the OP should change the way she says things so that she doesn’t hurt your feelings, that shows a lot of unchallenged privilege and not a lot of desire to learn.

  34. DK wrote:

    I have read Ms. Meminger’s excellent post before, so I wanted to add/respond to the comments.

    I too have seen the “whites receive better service in a non-white majority country” phenomenon in Southeast Asia. (And by white I mean that you will get the better service whether you’re European or a white USian.) I’m inclined to believe it’s a world-wide phenomenon.

    I also find it easier to write white characters (typically USians, if set in the real world: I don’t claim to be able to write, say, a French or Serbian character) than writing characters of my own racial/ethnic background. That’s what I read that section of Meminger’s essay as referring to: we’re surrounded by stories with white characters by white people that even when we pick up the pen to write our own stories, the white characters fight to be at the center of it. It’s WORK to write about characters that look more like us; it’s a conscious (as opposed to unconscious, unthinking) choice. It’s self-validation in that I’m saying “hey, I’m worth writing about, a story about me is worth reading/listening to/seeing,” most importantly to myself.

    I liked that section, actually, because it spoke directly to me as a PoC, and showed insight into something that I was thinking about and struggling with. It’s a little sad to read that some white people are angry about that section because they didn’t get it (maybe, for once, because it wasn’t about them and their experiences).

  35. Jha wrote:

    Genevieve @ 32: Thank you. You’ve articulated something I’ve been having difficulty saying for a long while now! (re: individual interaction vs systemic reality)

  36. Jess wrote:

    BTW typo in my comment — “didn’t make the worked as it is” should be “world as it is” argh.

  37. m. wrote:

    @LaTonya:
    I never implied that there was any argument against white authors writing characters that are people of color in the original post. I merely stated that *I*, personally, am pretty leery of those works. I am not disagreeing with the thoughts that Neesha has presented, or you for that matter – I am just extremely frustrated with all the outsiders who’ve attempted to write about my people and presented some laughable portrait of a tragic “half-breed” or a fucked up story about a mentally ill outsider with alcoholic parents. It doesn’t mean authors shouldn’t write characters of any race they so choose, but they shouldn’t be surprised if they find that readers out there are eager to criticize their work if they produce garbage. I know how stories about my people should read, and it isn’t like the script for a Lifetime film. After all that has been done and is being done to us today, we deserve better. That is all.

    Anyway, I’m sorry if I contributed to that derailing with my rant about this post not being about varying degrees of privilege. It kind of got to me that white commentors had this attitude that people of color do not have ethnicities, deal with things like class privilege, suffer from colorism, et cetera. Just like the white commentors on here, we are HUMAN and therefore diverse and also implicated in oppression. The end.

  38. re_weird wrote:

    I love this essay. Do you mind if I use your extended metaphor to explain things to soem of my clueless friends? (The one about how parent-child interactions aren’t equal, and also eating the other kid’s lunch).

  39. Ceri B. wrote:

    Another white reader in strong agreement with this post, and with one thing to add.

    I take my anti-racism seriously, and though I do keep getting it wrong, I keep trying, listening to correction, and manage to get some bad habits weeded out over time. I’m not likely to perpetrate any overt cruelty, at least…

    But I can still be part of the problem!

    Say that I’m having my very best anti-racist day, brooking no racist crap in my presence. But I’m in the same store with Neesha or any of the people of color who’ve commented before me. The odds are that I will be getting preferential treatment in a bunch of ways, and that even if I rebuke every exercise of racial bias I see, I’m not going to see them all, and Neesha or whoever can entirely legitimately come away discouraged at yet another display of white bias even though I never sought it out or did anything to encourage it that day.

    Which is to say that it’s just as Neesha said, it’s about the system as a whole, and the presence or absence of a particular person of good will doesn’t actually matter nearly as much as those of us in the privileged group would like to think sometimes.

  40. Neesha Meminger wrote:

    Thank you, everyone, for taking the time to comment. For those of you who are angry, do follow the link, above in the second update, to my response to the comments thread when this first went up on Justine’s blog.

    The comments after posts like these invariably take a similar path. There are those who rage, and those who nod thoughtfully, unafraid and unflinching in the face of another’s expression of reality. If you are able to put your emotions aside for just a moment, long enough to listen, you’ll notice that this conversation is not new. I am not the first to express these views. The dialogue is growing, consciousness is expanding, and more and more people are bridging the great divide around these issues.

    @re-weird: Yes! Please feel free to use the parent/child analogy everywhere you can think to. It’s one that everyone understands, and it is the first place we learn about power dynamics.

    My main point, which some of you are getting, is that: about power relations. That is the first line of the second paragraph: “It’s about power and privilege.” Power dynamics are not JUST about race–this is obvious if you are able to read the essay without anger clouding your judgment. I was not angry in the least when I wrote the essay.

    @distance88: absolutely. We all have to work at this together. One of the main points of the essay is that *what* we each need to do is different and unique to our own path of self-actualization. Contrary to the myth, power imbalances actually serve NO ONE. Not even the privileged.

    @Jha: I agree about the framing issue. Just to provide context: if you’ll notice, at the beginning of this essay I state that this was my response to a post by Justine Larbalestier on why her protagonists are not white. There was a comment in the thread about why PoC must always write PoC characters. This essay was my answer to that comment.

    @Pazi: good for you for getting it, trying to keep on getting it, and working it into your writing. Your writing will be all the more richer for understanding the complexities of power and conveying them creatively.

    Please keep the dialogue alive, all. Don’t feed the trolls, and let’s focus on moving forward. The conversations around race, gender, class, sexuality, power, and privilege are at a place they’ve never been because of the internet and the speed at which we can share ideas across sometimes vast distances. I’m excited to be here. Excited to read comments from thinking minds and open hearts. Looking forward to lots more.

  41. WTB wrote:

    A few years ago I could have written that first comment up there; now I can only look on in the embarrassment of recognition, but not to clog up the debate here I wrote something about derailing in my own blog here – http://whatistigerbalm.dreamwidth.org/5466.html – and thought I’d add the link here, if only to serve as a counter-voice who is likely sharing the first commenter’s background.

  42. NancyP wrote:

    People who have less power and social capital will tend to know more about “the bosses” than those “bosses” will know about them. This is not rocket science – this is a survival tactic. It matters not if you are talking about PoC and white, women and men, secretaries/executive assistants and their executives, gay and straight, newer employees competing for a promotion and the person with the power to promote. People observe their bosses in order to know how to keep on their good side, know the bosses’ weaknesses, and where the system can be stretched without the boss noticing or caring. A certain amount of practical psychology is a life-skill for people with less power in a given situation.

    For those who like mysteries, read the books of Blanche Neely. Her fictional detective is a dark-skinned, poor, middle-aged black woman without much formal education. She works as a maid, occasional child care worker, or at whatever job she can get. Nastiness ensues, and because she is a service worker, the nasty people let down their guard because they don’t consider that she can observe and reason.

  43. Adrianna wrote:

    good essay! Class privilege will not replace race privilege anytime soon, because people are still hung up on skin color.

    I feel this way about movies and how Hollywood portray people of color . I ‘d rather they not portray us.They except the likes of Tyler perry, M .Night Shymalan , the Wayans Brother and other Hollywood directors to portrays us as 3 dimensional characters . If you can’t do it then don’t do it at all. Who wants to get Micheal bayed. See the new Jeremy Piven racist movie. Same goes for books and maybe even music. because no matter what you will be other ed.

    @ DIMA and Baiskeli
    same shit here in Haiti . That is how colonized we still are. It would make a great post for the things we do to each other series

    I know more about European history than I know about other countries with majority POC. I had to learn all by myself. Everything begins and end with Europe in our little colonized island.

    I love that my local library run by the french government usually carries mostly book and magazine with white people on them even the women magazine have white people on them. when I pointed to carrying more black magazine I was Told by the French woman in charge that she did not want to separate the races. Whatever the fuck that means. So even in my country the face of beauty mag is that of whiteness. Of course the one black beauty mag is no better cause it pushes whiteness as beauty too. I get it you are about francophonie, but what about having more material from french speaking African countries , or other french speaking Caribbean, Pacific islands countries. why not promote those writers to and their music and their art. But no it can only be about mainland France.

    My main characthers are POC and WOC, cause I realize that white producers of culture are not going to show me as 3 dimensional person there are exceptions of course, but usually very few.

  44. Jha wrote:

    @ Neesha: Yes, I understood that, and the framing doesn’t really take anything away from the essay, tbh. I was thinking out loud and in the last few days I realized everything you said could be applied to an intra-PoC context as well! Thanks for the essay!

  45. Danielle wrote:

    I am white. All these knee-jerk reactions from super offended white people piss me right off. I’ve argued time and again with other white people about the same shit. I end up getting nowhere. I get condescension and anger. Check your privilege, white people. Please. It’s nauseating.

  46. Danielle wrote:

    And no, I do not want a cookie. :)

  47. PatrickInBeijing wrote:

    Thanks Neesha for a very thoughtful, interesting essay. Many of the comments were very thoughtful.

    I want to second Atlasien about white folks teaching English in, say China. (I am one). I was trying to place teachers in jobs, and had a terrible time getting jobs for teachers from the Phillipines. Despite the fact that many of them were better teachers than some of the white college students who were also applying. People only wanted white folks, as if somehow, only their English was authentic. Sigh… I often argue that Chinese teachers of English are better than some of us native speakers, but people don’t believe it.

    It seems to me, that a lot of us who are white cannot stand to grapple with the subject of race. It is painful. We want to be good guys, we think we already are. And then someone points out all of the racism in our society. Not us!! We didn’t do it!! But even if so, we DO benefit from it (me included). Unless we are actively working to change that dynamic, then we are contributing to it.

    It’s not enough to “like” POC, or have friends, or date or even read a few books. If we are serious about dealing with race, we need to 1) listen and learn 2) begin to actively work to change the dynamic (which means a lot of different things for different folks, but be doing SOMETHING, not just “being nice”).

    Not easy? But, really, if we do number 1, how can we not do number 2?

    peace.

  48. PatrickInBeijing wrote:

    And a comment to Rob about class issues. I used to work for a temporary agency (day labor). My boss told me that many factory managers refused to accept POC day laborers. We were all basically muscle. Not just one or two, MANY. So, the poor white folks got a chance to earn money that was unavailable to poor POC. THAT is white skin privilege.

    We can also see it in interactions with police, government, media, HELL, everywhere. Being poor isn’t good, and there is certainly class discrimination, but being poor and white is still being white. And in America, there are privileges that come with that.

  49. Emma wrote:

    Wow Neesha, great article! I’m one of those ppl who NEVER thought much about racism/prejudice/sexism until confronted w/ it head-on. (My family says I have to see something to believe it!) I got my Master’s in Teaching English from a top univ in NYC in 2006. About 30-35 others graduated w/ this same degree; a handful left teaching b/c it turned out to be wrong career path. I looked for a job in NYC for 3 school yrs, and got ZERO! Sure, I had some interviews, but then things just petered out. I got a VERY low-pay job at a private school in Brooklyn; it was VERY badly managed, so I left after 3 months. My only resort was substituting- I did this for 3 semesters. One day in 2007, a Pakistani immigrant female friend commented that maybe I wasn’t getting a job b/c of my Muslim name and Bangladeshi background. I was shocked to hear my fears spoken out loud so plainly! My mom says that maybe white people often can’t easily picture desis as English teachers; they see us as IT experts and such. I cried LONG and HARD when I realized that racism could affect someone like me! (I guess I was “simple” and “innocent” like my family/friends says.) I’m not in teaching now, unfortunately. My grad school classmates (a VERY diverse bunch, but no Muslims among them) often commented that I knew more about content (Shakespeare, essay writing, etc.) than they did, BUT they got the jobs.