The Brazil Files: Busy Being Foreign

by Special Correspondent Wendi Muse

Since I’ve been living in Brazil, I have suffered from memory loss. On occasion, I simply forget that I am black.

Let me explain . . .

I was born in the United States, in the South to be exact, during the early 1980s, to a mother with very fair skin who, along with her seven sisters and brothers, had witnessed and undergone Jim Crow segregation. My great grandmother and grandfather, a teacher and farmer, respectively, who both had dark skin, had given birth to a light-skinned child, my grandmother, who would then go on to marry a man of equally light skin who was raised to distrust black people who looked like his in-laws. My father, on the other hand, came from a family where the emphasis on high cheekbones and dark wavy hair was made more frequently than that of slightly flattened noses. We have Native blood, they’d say.

You see, colorism was alive and well in my family.

And yet years later, when I still feel compelled to remind my mother that her coarse, nappy hair is beautiful or that there is no need to insert the words “but” or “despite” as my family refers to model Alek Wek’s ebony-skinned beauty, I know that the remnants remain. At the end of the day, we are all of African descent, and in our slavemasters’, old legislators’, and white domestic terrorists’ eyes, we were all black. Yet within that category, we found various ways of re-categorizing ourselves to fit our own neat little model of racism. We created a home-kit, if you will, of silly divisions of what was acceptable and what was not in terms of appearance and behavior.

My maternal grandfather warned his daughters of the dangers of the villainous, malicious dark blacks. Of course, there were exceptions, my dark-skinned aunt and uncle being visible reminders of our inescapable heritage, and the only dark people my grandfather ever truly accepted beyond a superficial level (his race track buddies do not count). But for the most part, darker blacks were to be avoided, despite my family’s shared plight with them in a segregated south.

My mother, though quite young during the segregation period, still bears irrevocable memories. She has recounted stories of slapping a young white girl who had stared at her in a hospital bathroom because she had “never seen a Negro girl up-close before,” of thinking that “colored only” fountains would one day magically transform into a spring of rainbow-infused water, and of remembering her confusion as to why her older sister spent so much time “marching” in the street when she was not wearing her majorette uniform. And presently, in her work as a geriatric social worker, she is reminded of the divisions the period and the long-lasting subsequent effects they have had on the black community when her older, darker-skinned black patients assume she is “stuck up” or cannot be trusted because of her light skin.

Having grown up in a family like this, race inevitably became a daily topic of discussion.

Sure, we were undoubtedly on the privileged end of the spectrum. We had light skin, we were middle class, we owned property. My mother, father, and some of their siblings had coveted college degrees, no small feat for the select few blacks who made it through the southern university system in the 1960s and 70s. And even the family members who never made it to college still have successful, fulfilling careers of which they can be proud. Of course, my family, like any other, has its flaws, but nothing that was inherently linked to our skin color.

Yet again, race comes up all the time. My family holds the same hostility as other blacks towards those involved in the perpetuation of systematic, institutionally sanctioned racism. We are reminded of our race all the time by co-workers’ exclusionary behavior, by being followed around while patronizing clothing stores, and by merely having tastes, food traditions, and vernacular speech that differed from whites. Despite our color privilege, we existed in a third world of sorts, our own little space between “black,” as designated by whites, and “not quite black enough,” (or “almost,” as I was once called) by other blacks.

My going to a predominately white all girls’ school did not exactly alleviate this feeling. As the sole representative of blackness in my grade, I was a piss-poor example of the kind of black girl my white peers may have anticipated. I was not like the black people they saw on television, nor was I quite like their maids who, in some cases, had provided the only contact the girls had with other blacks. Yet despite my being “different” from other blacks, I (along with several of the black students from other grade levels) had to serve as a delegate for the race. I got the usual questions about hair maintenance, “ghetto” vocabulary words, and whether or not blacks are capable of tanning. Needless to say, the job was tiring.

Following high school, college led me to New York City where, despite the city’s never-ending layers of diversity, I was still confronted with lots of questions, comments, assumptions, and externally-assigned categories related to my race, the race of my partners, and the race of my friends. So considering my family background, upbringing, and personal history that warranted my admitted preoccupation with race, you can imagine my surprise at my ability to go days at a time during which I completely step outside of my skin and do not feel the often heavy weight of being a person of color.

That is the only way to describe my experience here in Brazil. I have never had so much time go by in my entire life during which I am not faced with unwarranted expectations, assumptions, and characterizations associated to my race. Why? Mainly because what I consider “my race” does not exist within the same box as it does in the United States.

In Brazil, the term “black” (“negro/a”) is often relegated solely to people of African descent who have much darker skin and/or used for political purposes (i.e. as a unifying, symbolic reference by people with invested interests in community building among blacks/Afro-descendants). So whenever I discuss race with my students (which occurs a lot considering that a discussion of race is inseparable from a discussion on American history and culture) and I declare myself as black, they get confused.

“But, Teacher, you are not black,” they often say, noting the lightness of my skin as the most salient piece of evidence. “You’re morena or mulata, but not black.”

Following their usual assertion, I have to explain that in the United States, the three terms are not mutually exclusive. As a result of the “One Drop Rule” and, later, the politicization of the term during the Civil Rights Movement, black was a term reserved for the majority of people who have African heritage in the United States, no matter the lightness or darkness of their skin. I then go on to cite the color gradation within my own family and that, in spite of their lightness, many much lighter than I, they still consider themselves black in both race and culture.

Considering that race in Brazil is dealt with mainly on a phenotypic level (based on physical appearance), you can imagine their surprise at what they consider an oversimplification of race in the United States. I recall once that when a Brazilian friend of mine came to visit New York, he remarked that he was surprised by the large black population in Brooklyn.

“There are soooo many black people here,” he proclaimed, leaving me a bit dumbfounded. “But you’re from Brazil. What are you talking about? There are plenty of black people there. Why are you so surprised?” I asked.

Then I realized; “Black” for him and “black” for me were two totally different things. In my eyes, he and I were both black, along with the other millions of people in Brooklyn whom he had singled out as having shocked him in their abundance and millions more brown-skinned people I had seen in Belo Horizonte, Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo, and Salvador in Brazil. Yet to him, “black” only meant people with very dark skin and decidedly black African features. That term was reserved for a very small group of people in Brazil, some of whom continue to be marginalized in many ways on account of their color.

Espero que nosso filho não seja preto,” (“I hope our son isn’t black” — “black” in this case being referred to by way of the now offensive term “preto,” which is used sometimes to refer to very dark black people) I once heard a white expecting mother jokingly say of her soon to be born biracial child. The father, moreno. The grandfather, according to the couple, preto, hence the fear. While the statement was harsh and said a lot about Brazilian race relations, I cannot exactly say I was surprised. It is just that normally I am not privy to such racist admissions. As a result of my appearance, I had been cast in the shadow of privilege and provided a front row seat to the racism circus, a performance I often missed in the United States because I was still black there. At home, I was not placed in some imaginary bubble of protection simply for being a few shades lighter than some others. Black was black was black. Brazil is a different story entirely.

Here, I have begun to recognize that privilege takes many forms, all of them unwelcome on my part. For one thing, I am American. While this aspect of my being is not immediately recognized, as most Brazilians assume I am one of them and/or have a parent who is, once this fact becomes known, how attractive, interesting, and accepted I am in public places skyrockets in ways that would never happen if I were simply a brown-skinned Brazilian.  In a country where many of the imports come from the Land of the Free including entertainment in the form of music and film, some of the most powerful mediums of cultural dominance, you can imagine what my presence means, whether I like it or not.

The other point of privilege lies in my appearance, at which I have already hinted. Being more caramel-esque than dark means I am afforded treatment that is strikingly different. I do not get followed around retail stores or profiled by the police. People who look like me are profiled in advertisements, have roles in novelas (soap operas), and are spokespeople for high end products. I am included in colorist, racist discussions and jokes as if people who have the same origin as I are separate species. I am pursued romantically and openly considered attractive by people of many different races. In relation to quite a few of the aforementioned, I cannot say the same with regards to my experience living in the United States.

The next aspect of privilege I have had to assess is one that is far more powerful than skin color and nationality: class. In the United States, I am middle class. Here, despite my weary checking account, I give off signs of wealth unintentionally. Clothes like those one could buy at H&M, Forever 21, and other popular chain stores are taxed to the hilt and marked up to the degree that they are almost inaccessible to anyone who is not upper middle class to rich. The same goes for items from Zara, which they have in larger Brazilian cities, but with price tags that would give any New Yorker, Lisboan, or Madrileña a heart attack. Electronics, international food, and even books can be added to this list of overpriced goods in Brazil, but to which I have easy, cheap access Stateside. With that said, my possession and consumption of the aforementioned put me in a higher class than many Brazilians who share my skin color, as the wealthy class in Brazil is decidedly white. 

With all that said, there are other recognizable differences in the way race is dealt with in Brazil that allows me to take a mental vacation, including but not limited to, a heavy presence of interracial relationships (and not necessarily those of the same racial pairing), multiracial families, and phenotypic diversity within groups of friends of all ages, all things still seen in smaller quantities in the United States, even in major cities.

All of these things make it almost too easy for me to “forget” that I am black, to not spend my days preoccupied with my race as I do in the United States. Yet, there is something unsettlingly unhealthy about that, mainly because it means one of two things: the United States has a long way to go, or I am temporarily blinded by a non-existent ideal steeped in privilege. I am going to go with option two. Of course, the States has a long way to go in terms of improving its domestic state of race relations, yet one has to be careful not to read those in Brazil as being utopian, as they, too, have a complex and somewhat dark past, one of them being the goal of ethnic cleansing by way of miscegenation to which I often reference. I have enough common sense to read between the lines and assess personal situations from an objective standpoint, and this is no exception.

I find that many Americans of color, upon traveling to another country, often remark on the striking differences between the treatment they receive abroad versus the treatment they receive in the United States, myself being one of them. But we must also employ the critical thinking necessary to realize that our experience is through the tinted lens of privilege, be it via nationality, skin color, class, and any other unrecognized differences that set us apart culturally from our international peers. I have to recognize that while the story I tell of my experiences in Brazil as an adult may be different from the experiences I underwent as someone who grew up in the South, someone somewhere in Brazil has a similar story that is going unheard or unrecognized by the thousands of Americans who travel to Brazil and deem it a racial paradise, a vacation spot for the oppressed.

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*drawing courtesy of amazing French graffiti artist/cartoonist Fafi, whose work can be found here: www.myspace.com/fafinette

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Comments

  1. Abagond wrote:

    Wow, that was great. The clearest account I have read yet about how race is different in Brazil and America. Thanks!

  2. Trey wrote:

    This has been a learning experience. I knew that Brazil wasn’t the racial utopia that it’s promoted as being. That said, it’s still kind of depressing that my dark skin would still be seen as less than.

    Could you explain how miscegenation was promoted in Brazil?

    Also, where did your grandparents go to college. Did they go to Howard? Even when I attended, there were stories of Howard’s institutional colorism.

  3. Hsiu wrote:

    Thank you, this was such a great post. I am Chinese-American by way of Taiwan, and I also experienced dueling feelings of relief and unease while living for a year in Japan. On the one hand, on the street I passed, apparently quite convincingly, for Japanese, and it was nice to be assumed as part of the “in-group” instead of as a perpetual foreigner. On the other hand, it was the first time I was aware of my American, English-speaking privilege, and of the situations in which I knowingly exploited it, when I chose to pass as Japanese (another exercise of privilege, both in being able to choose, and in being able to pass, avoiding conversations about Japanese-Chinese relations), and when I actively tried check it.

    Many of my white friends have also lived or traveled in Japan, and while I don’t want to dismiss their experiences, it’s hard to relate after a certain point. Thanks for articulating so well the complexities of being an American POC living abroad.

  4. macon d wrote:

    Wonderful post! I don’t have anything to add, just wanted to say thanks so much for taking the time to explain all this.

  5. Brendan wrote:

    I second Agabond’s comment, and I’d like to add that this article provides a really useful perspective on privilege, too.

  6. Amanda wrote:

    This piece is very interesting to me as my experience in Brazil was the exact opposite. As a darker-skinned woman, I somehow felt that I was living in the Jim Crow south. I lived in Bahia with a small, diverse group from my University. I consistently felt discriminated against where waiters would serve my counterparts but ignore me, or I would be followed around in stores. For the most part these are experiences that I have not blatantly experienced home in the US, yet in Brazil I was living in what seemed like hell. I think it was easier for me to notice the differences based on comparison with the others in my group (lighter- skinned blacks and whites). Interestingly enough, as Wendi noted, while lighter skin gives some greater privilege and the facade of acceptance, the reality is that in Brazil those of African descent – dark and light are still the majority of those living in poverty with limited access to education and basic needs. Yet, it has been difficult for the group as a whole to unite and demand rights based on the perceived differences based on color. In the US, where there was no question, blacks of all colors were forced to come together to demand rights, yet this method has given way to results that are slowly being implemented in Brazil (i.e. affirmative action). So although Brazil has made advances in social relations between people of all colors, in my opinion the colorist divisions have been a detriment to the rights of people of African descent.

  7. Deaf Indian Muslim Anarchist! wrote:

    very interesting post, great story. Thanks for sharing.

  8. Deaf Indian Muslim Anarchist! wrote:

    I totally can relate to Hsiu’s comment– when I was in India, that is (since I am Indian), I felt very relieved, welcomed, and I didn’t feel like a freak or an outcast there.

    that being said, I am very curious about the experience of East Asians and South Asians in a diverse country like Brazil.

  9. Julian Obubo wrote:

    Ethnic cleansing by way of miscegenation? can you expand on that please?

    An interesting, eye opening piece

  10. Wendi Muse wrote:

    deaf–one of my upcoming articles will touch a little bit on that, so be on the lookout!

  11. Fatemeh wrote:

    Wendi, thanks for a wonderfully-written and amazing deconstruction and comparison of race from your POV in the U.S. and Brasil. Very interesting stuff! :)

  12. Zara wrote:

    @DIMA:

    Really? I experience the opposite whenever I visit South Asian countries. I’m a very light-skinned Bengali-American, and I visited Bangladesh about 5 years ago. While I was there, I went out of my way to disguise my Americanness as much as possible, usually by wearing salwar-kameez and speaking solely in Bengali. Instead, I was openly gawked at, and overcharged at the malls by storeowners who mistook me for a foreigner. What I found amusing was that the Bangladeshi young women around my age I saw at the shopping malls all wore Western brand-name clothing, but they didn’t seem to face the same problems that I did.

    I’m born and raised in Southern California, and after my visit to Bangladesh, I’ve realized just how comfortable I feel here. I certainly get questions about my ethnicity, but they seem to stem from curiosity rather than hostility. In Bangladesh, I felt completely out of place, and was even made to feel ashamed that I was an American.

  13. tpear17 wrote:

    I find this article very confusing. The author says she can forget her race in Brazil because she is caramel complexion and therefore, accepted. So essentially, she’s privileged because of her lighter skin. So that’s something to rejoice in? I realize that she isn’t promoting that thought pattern and recognizes the flaws in the racial perspectives of the Brazilian people, but it seems as if her article is advancing the theory that in Brazil things are better for some blacks and not others, but it’s all good. Well, I’m sorry, it’s not. I’d rather be in America where we’re all black no matter what our shade. Thank you very much.

  14. Dendrite wrote:

    As obvious foreigner in Japan, I had experiences that made me realize I have no idea what it is to live through discrimination here in America. I resemble what most Japanese think of as a “desireable” foreigner (white), but I was struck by the instances in which I felt categorical hostility based on my race.

    My neighborhood, populated by many people of Brazilian descent, was labeled “scary.” I would sometimes get a look I have never gotten in America, a glare that unmistakably says “You do not belong here.” People asked probing questions about me and treated me as a novelty. I was included in social funtions at my workplace solely on a case-by-case basis.

    I’m really glad these things happened to me, but I’m uncomfortable with how “optional” this discrimination was. When I got back to America, it went away…

  15. Jehanzeb wrote:

    Thank you for writing this really interesting piece, Wendi. I really enjoyed reading it :)

  16. livininphilly wrote:

    Really great article Wendi! I’ve experienced a lot of the same when traveling outside of the US. I am actually just coming to realize that my own skin color affords me priveleges that I never thought I was recieving because it is farly light skinned. Although I do have to say I never considered (and still don’t) myself to be light skinned I have been told it many, many times by others as I have gotten older. I actually started thinking that I may be light-skinned when i traveled out of the US and upon my arrival back asked how people knew I was American. I was told it was b/c I was light skinned. This in turn produced a minor identity crisis in me. It’s kind of a wierd space to be in but I digress and perhaps i’ll write about it some day.

    @ tpear17

    Actually, I don’t think that is what Wendi is trying to say at all. It seems more like she is saying that some blacks are treated differently based on the unique historical context of Brazil. I think it was more of a way to contrast how race plays out in the US v. Brazil. Further her story serves as a cautionary tale b/c she has been tempted to not analyze it but she is saying that she must continue to do so b/c if she doesn’t then she will in effect be perpetuating the same marginalization, that she experiences in America, in Brazil. I was under the assumption that is why she chose to write the article in the first place because she was dealing with this privelege and feeling really uncomfortable with it.

  17. Wendi Muse wrote:

    tpear:
    nowhere in this article do i say i think colorism is a good thing. i recognize its flaws and i think it’s horrible. what i am mentioning here is that despite assumptions about brazil, one of them being that it is a racial utopia, after living here long enough, one realizes the nuanced approach to race is different than one some people are taught to believe about the country, including the citizens of brazil themselves. one of the main government-based slogans they repeat over and over on television is “o brasil: um pais de todos,” which translates as “brasil: a country of everyone” but also can be interpreted as “FOR” everyone…that’s the subtle meaning. with that said, people are sometimes hardpressed to recognize racism. there is so much racial mixing going on and general propaganda about brazil being a racial democracy, when beneath the surface, it can be just as racist of a place as the united states. however, the markers of said racism can be more subtle at times and/or different/hard for americans to see initially.

    and within the piece, if you read it in its entirety, you will see that i address privilege bigtime and say that it’s unsettling to recognize that in benefiting from said privilege, that is how i feel more accepted and equal here. while comforting initially, it’s incredibly disturbing once you really grasp “the why.” i know dark-skinned black people who go to brazil and sing its praises for being a better place for blacks, though they forget their privilege as americans or as members of an upper class. the point of the article is for us to really give deeper consideration, beyond the surface, to the treatment blacks (as well as other groups of color) may receive when they go to brazil.

    i think also that as a result of the “no racism” rhetoric, we come here thinking one thing, believing one thing, and looking for that thing. and some people forget that there is something else going on that we can’t see…sometimes it’s for lack of command of portuguese, other times it’s because the stay isnt long enough, other times it’s for lack of integration with actual brazilians…etc

    so no, i am not rejoicing in privilege. i’m saying it’s important we recognize it.

    however, i am also not damning brazilians for how they recognize what is black and what is not. that’s the problem we have as americans. we often try to assess race on and in our own terms, when race is a social construct based very much on ones culture. they often find our way of defining race as backwards and oversimplified because it discounts being multiracial and defaults to one color, solely because of old ass slave laws. if you think about the context in which our one drop rule began, it’s not exactly egalitarian, nor was it in consideration of what blacks thought/felt.

    re: the question about my grandparents by Trey…no,they didn’t go to college. my mother, father, and some of my aunts/uncles went, but neither set of grandparents. my parents went to Memphis State (now known as the university of memphis), which at the time, was integrated, but only recently when they attended.

    re: trey’s other question about racial/ethnic cleansing via racial miscegenation. ..the run down is as follows. in short, with portuguese “discovery” and subsequent colonization of brazil, the people were encouraged to “mix” with the population sexually in hopes of whitening them. whereas in american history, we were dealing primarily with the british, who were told to stay away/keep themselves separate from the indigenous and slave population. SO both sides equally racist, but yielding different results and different ways of thinking about race.

    i should also note that there was no real legal segregtation process in brazil following slavery, though slavery ended much later (on paper, 1888) there than in the u.s….that also made for really different ways of thinking about race.

  18. Wendi Muse wrote:

    tpear….just to draw your attention to specific points from my piece:

    “Here, I have begun to recognize that privilege takes many forms, all of them unwelcome on my part. ”

    “All of these things make it almost too easy for me to “forget” that I am black, to not spend my days preoccupied with my race as I do in the United States. Yet, there is something unsettlingly unhealthy about that, mainly because it means one of two things: the United States has a long way to go, or I am temporarily blinded by a non-existent ideal steeped in privilege. I am going to go with option two. Of course, the States has a long way to go in terms of improving its domestic state of race relations, yet one has to be careful not to read those in Brazil as being utopian, as they, too, have a complex and somewhat dark past, one of them being the goal of ethnic cleansing by way of miscegenation to which I often reference. I have enough common sense to read between the lines and assess personal situations from an objective standpoint, and this is no exception.

    I find that many Americans of color, upon traveling to another country, often remark on the striking differences between the treatment they receive abroad versus the treatment they receive in the United States, myself being one of them. But we must also employ the critical thinking necessary to realize that our experience is through the tinted lens of privilege, be it via nationality, skin color, class, and any other unrecognized differences that set us apart culturally from our international peers. I have to recognize that while the story I tell of my experiences in Brazil as an adult may be different from the experiences I underwent as someone who grew up in the South, someone somewhere in Brazil has a similar story that is going unheard or unrecognized by the thousands of Americans who travel to Brazil and deem it a racial paradise, a vacation spot for the oppressed.”

  19. allison wrote:

    tpear17: “I find this article very confusing. The author says she can forget her race in Brazil because she is caramel complexion and therefore, accepted. So essentially, she’s privileged because of her lighter skin. So that’s something to rejoice in? I realize that she isn’t promoting that thought pattern and recognizes the flaws in the racial perspectives of the Brazilian people, but it seems as if her article is advancing the theory that in Brazil things are better for some blacks and not others, but it’s all good. Well, I’m sorry, it’s not. I’d rather be in America where we’re all black no matter what our shade. Thank you very much.”

    i agree with this. what the author saw as a “freeing and accepting experience” i only saw as more colorism and discrimination. because of her lighter skin and features that “aren’t typically african” she felt like she was accepted and could “forget being black.” what does that say for people who aren’t light, or whose features aren’t so accepting? oh yeah–it’s even worse than the u.s. and it probably won’t be such an enlightening experience.

  20. Wendi Muse wrote:

    yes, that’s it exactly livininphilly. lol thanks!

  21. Wendi Muse wrote:

    um, once again, i say all of this…

  22. atlasien wrote:

    Brazil is ahead of the U.S. in some ways, behind in others. I don’t think it’s possible to say that it’s worse than the U.S. or better, overall. But different people are going to have better or worse experiences… I think this piece does a great job of analyzing that.

    In the U.S. there’s still a very strong, ugly legacy of thinking about race in terms of sickness and contamination…. the white healthy social “body” being under threat (usually by blackness). To me, this idea was encapsulated in some civil rights photographs I saw of white people freaking out when their swimming pools were forcibly integrated. I don’t think this paranoid fear of contamination is anywhere near as powerful in Brazil or some other Latin American countries.

    On the other hand, the civil rights movement here really pulled us forward a huge amount, and countries like Brazil are still way behind. They need affirmative action (and have realized that). They don’t need to copy the U.S. wholesale, but they can import the practices that have been working for us.

  23. patsgirl wrote:

    There are so many powerful, honest writers here at Racialicious & I’m excited to see the point of views on issues other than black-white.

    Wendi, this writing is so clear & enlightening. I just want to say how happy for you I am that you can be in an environment where your skin doesn’t weigh so heavily on you daily. I have so much to share & lots of questions for you, but I’m not able to articulate without taking up major time & space.

  24. choreographix wrote:

    i agree with this. what the author saw as a “freeing and accepting experience” i only saw as more colorism and discrimination. because of her lighter skin and features that “aren’t typically african” she felt like she was accepted and could “forget being black.” what does that say for people who aren’t light, or whose features aren’t so accepting?

    It’s not okay to ever appreciate being treated better, if there are still people anywhere in the world who are being treated worse? That’s a little dramatic.

  25. choreographix wrote:

    This was an interesting article. I wonder if anyone has written anything similar about race relations in France? I feel like I keep hearing that they actually attempt to be some kind of racial utopia, and I don’t know anything about France, well, at all. Off to Google I go…

  26. michael crachiolo wrote:

    Wendi!

    You’ve outdone yourself! I think this article is great. It opened my eyes too. I totally see what you are saying. I guess maybe I’ve even begun to understand what you have written about during my trips to Brazil, but I never could put it in my own words. Great writing!

  27. Ain't I an African? wrote:

    The bottom line is that skin that is in the darkest spectrum is universally despised in every country and in every culture. Not only by those who have no black blood, but also those who have it. This makes me, the mother of two adorable, beautiful, amazing, dark brown children very sad. I’m dark skinned too, but I’ve fought and won my own battles. Just for their sake, I will continue to fight.

  28. Luis wrote:

    Brazil has as long a way to go as the United States. In a lot of metrics (especially economic), it’s worse to be a dark-skinned Black person in Brazil than in the U.S. That’s just a fact. I always cringe when I hear Latin American nationals try to portray their countries as racial utopias compared to the United States. It’s disingenuous and completely false. While we talk about race a lot (comparatively) in the U.S., we actually have less discrimination and more socio-economic opportunity for racial minorities than most countries in our hemisphere. Don’t confuse a lack of discussion for a lack of a problem.

    @DIMA

    “that being said, I am very curious about the experience of East Asians and South Asians in a diverse country like Brazil.”

    Speaking specifically about the comparison between Japanese-Brazilians and Japanese-Americans (I’ve done some research), the treatment is pretty similar. While white, black, and mixed Brazilians usually go by just Brasileiro, while Japanese-Brazilians are Nippo-Brasileiros. The hyphen has similar connotations of (perpetual) foreignness. They face similar Asian stereotypes (geisha fetishizing, eye-pulling, ching-chonging), including the ostensibly positive “model minority” stereotype. Just as most Japanese-Americans are concentrated in Hawaii and California, Japanese-Brazilians are concentrated in the states of São Paolo and Paraná. In both cases, people are most familiar and comfortable with Japanese culture in those states.

    There are more Japanese-Brazilians (~2 mil) than Japanese-Americans (~1.5 mil). Considering that Brazil is 2/3 the population of the U.S., they have more of a presence. Chinese and Koreans are less common in Brazil than the U.S., proportionally.

    I actually don’t know anything about South Asians in Brazil, I’ll leave that to somebody else to illuminate.

  29. mute wrote:

    @choreographix in 25.

    France attempts to be progressive by largely not acknowledging race. Everyone in France is supposed to be equally French, though there are plenty of social discrepancies that clearly exist along racial lines and many non-white French are not accepted by white French or immediately recognized as citizens. The country has well publicized issues with the integration of Northern African immigrants and subsequent generations into mainstream society. However problems with bigotry, lack of gainful employment opportunities, police brutality, etc effect French blacks as well, many of whom are coming from overseas territories in the Caribbean and sub-Saharan Africa or are descendants of those folks.

    The government doesn’t collect information regarding racial groups, so its actually unknown how many black people live in France. There are groups and activists that try to advocate on behalf of black and brown people in France and increase their overall visibility in French society and address the many inequities. CRAN is one that I can think of (http://le-cran.clubaverroes.com/). I’m not sure how that group is regarded amongst black and brown French people though.

  30. Marcio E. Goncalves wrote:

    “Speaking specifically about the comparison between Japanese-Brazilians and Japanese-Americans (I’ve done some research), the treatment is pretty similar. While white, black, and mixed Brazilians usually go by just Brasileiro, while Japanese-Brazilians are Nippo-Brasileiros. ”

    I’m a brazilian living in San Francisco (a city with a large population of Japanese-americans) and I’m from the Parana State, the second State in numbers of Japanese-brazilians.

    I think you’re description is not very accurate. Japanese-brazilians are MUCH more integrated in brazilian culture than Japanese-americans are in american culture.

    The japanese community in Brazil is kinda divided between those that consider themselves more japanese than brazilians and those that considers themselves just brazilians.

    The former tend to be first or second generation japanese-brazilians. But the fact is that from second generation onward most of japanese-brazilians only speak portuguese and are very integrated in brazilian cultured.

    The number of inter-racial marriages between them and other brazilians is huge – in a proportion that is unheard of in the USA.

    What you perceived as a kinda of differentiation, the fact that they are called “nipo-brasileiros” is silly. First, not everyone call them this – I’d say only the press and the government.

    In day to day life, most would call them just “japones” (japanese) or “japa” (short for japones, DOES not have the bad meaning that “jap” has in English) but you have to keep in mind that in Brazil “japones” is pretty much a word to describe the “asian phenotype”as a whole.

    There’s no connotation whatsoever that the person is any less brazilian by being “japones” as you imply.

    That’s not the only “nationality” word that is used to describe someone physical appearance in brazilian-portuguese.

    Someone could be a “galega” (galician, a blonde girl), a “alemao” (a german, used for any blonde and tall person), a “polaco” (a polish, someone very fair skinned) or a “turco” (anyone that resembles someone from Middle East) – but all those word are used to describe the looks, not for the ethnicity, origin, etc… No one is considered less brazilian for being a “alemao”.

    Back to the Japanese brazilians, I think the best proof about their integration is a brazilian TV host and comedian called “Sabrina Sato”. Check her in the Wikipedia.

    She is a mixed-race japanese-brazilian and she became famous playing with the stereotype of being a beautiful but stupid country girl (a “caipira”) from the countryside of Sao Paulo State.

    That would be the equivalent of a japanese-american girl being considered a example of a South Redneck from Georgia. Can you imagine that happening in the USA? Very unlikely.

  31. luckyfatima wrote:

    This was an excellent essay.

  32. atlasien wrote:

    @Marcio: as a Japanese-American I have to disagree a bit with your disagreement. I just think you’re overstating the lack of assimilation of Japanese-Americans into US society. In the U.S., I’ve never heard of a 3rd generation JA speaking Japanese. I’m sort of 1.5g and I don’t speak Japanese. Japanese-Americans also intermarry and Americanize very quickly… much more so than Chinese-Americans. I’m neither bragging about it, nor condemning it, just stating it neutrally.

    I’ll totally grant you that Japanese-Americans in the media are extremely typecast in a way that Japanese-Brazilians might not be. But there are also quite a few high-profile JAs from different fields whose ethnicity isn’t the most prominent thing people know about them… e.g. Guy Kawasaki, Norm Mineta, Kristi Yamaguchi, Robert Kiyosaki, etc.

    On the other hand, I agree that there’s a subtle but ugly undercurrent of resentment against JAs, because of WWII, that is pretty much absent in Brazil.

    I’ve never been to Brazil, but I have been to Peru, which is the second biggest Latin American country for the Japanese diaspora. I was actually there during the reign of the Japanese-Peruvian President/caudillo, Alberto Fujimori. He was really skilled at manipulating positive Asian stereotypes in the media… he always called himself “El Chino” (in every Spanish-speaking country I’ve gone to, chino=all Asians), promised to “karate chop” inflation and so on.

    When you saw campaign photos of him next to indigenous voters, the way he resembled them physically was quite striking. He obviously got a lot of their votes because he seemed like a refreshing change from the typical white/criollo political elite.

    Of course, he turned out to be sort of a combination of George W. Bush and Al Capone.

    I recommend the documentary “The Fall of Fujimori” which gives a great outline of his rise and fall, and tangentially reveals a fair amount about the status of Asian Latin Americans.

  33. Marcio E. Goncalves wrote:

    “@Marcio: as a Japanese-American I have to disagree a bit with your disagreement. I just think you’re overstating the lack of assimilation of Japanese-Americans into US society. In the U.S., I’ve never heard of a 3rd generation JA speaking Japanese”

    Atlasien,

    Thanks for the reply and your perspective as a japanese-american.

    But actually I’m not overstating the lack of assimilation os Japanese-Americans. Living in San Francisco I’m well aware that japanese-americans are more integrated than the Chinese or Korean.

    For example, it seems they don’t use anything equivalent to the term ABC – “American Born Chinese”, how a lot of chinese-americans describe themselves here in San Francisco. Meaning they’re chinese, not americans, even though they were born here.

    I’m just exposing the fact that the japanese-brazilians are more assimilated than their counter-parts in the USA.

    Because this assimilation is a two way street – the new group must assimilate and the rest of the country has to accept the new culture on its own. Although it seems clear that japanese-americans don’t separate themselves from mainstream america as much as (a part) of the chinese community do, the fact is that the american culture as a whole still don’t view them as “american”.

    My example of Sabrina Sato is just one. Again, can you imagine a japanese-american in television used as a typical hillbillie?

    We never had a Asian president like Peru, but we had (and have) very high profile japanese-brazilians in the government – like Federal Government Minister (equivalent of Secretaries in the USA), Top Rank Army Officers and Mayors of big and rich cities.

    (talking about the army, we already had japanese-brazilians fighting along side the white, black and mixed during the world world 2).

    We could also talk of how anime and manga were already popular in Brazil before they became a fad in the USA – and it was never necessary to “pretend” the character were brazilians, as the american did in the animes in the 80s.

    In this sense, the japanese are much more integrated in Brazil than USA.

    A very good hint about this integration is what happens when japanese-brazilians move out to Japan – in almost all cases they continue to identify as brazilians, eating like brazilians, etc…

    So we have the curious fact now that Japan biggest minority community is the brazilian one – but most of them are japanese-brazilians.
    Even the second biggest brazilian carnival in the world is in Japan – again, most of them japanese brazilians.

  34. 9jah wrote:

    @ Amanda:

    “In the US, where there was no question, blacks of all colors were forced to come together to demand rights, yet this method has given way to results that are slowly being implemented in Brazil (i.e. affirmative action).”

    I cosign. IMO African Americans have the greatest story dealing with majority white oppression compared to any other afro-descended group in the diaspora from the Caribbean to the Americas. The one drop rule for all its now-acknowledged flaws helped foster the greatest sense of racial identity and shared purpose among people of African descent outside of Africa.

    @tpear17/@Allison

    “So essentially, she’s privileged because of her lighter skin. So that’s something to rejoice in?”

    What we describe as “privilege” is the way the world should be, i.e. racial opression is what is unnatural and unelightened. We should not confuse the fight. The fight should be against the people who are imposing the unnatural in our lives. In whatever way people (particularly, those belonging to an oppressed community) are able to freely pursue “life, liberty and happiness”, they should not be faulted or have to apologize for it – provided they don’t step in the role of oppressor.

    Also, this is not comparable to “white privilege” where many of the privileged are oblivious of their privilege and make judgments on racial matters without factoring this in. Plus, Wendi did not gain her privilege in Brazil at the expense of anyone.

  35. n wrote:

    I’m white on occasion. It would be easy to enjoy it but what often happens is that it allows you to truly see how different life is for those who lack privilege and fight even more for change.

    I’ve felt guilt, felt bad, felt like I was on the wrong side many times. BUT I also believe very strongly that those of us who have ties and loyalties to those who may not enjoy the same privilege as everyone else have a duty to not walk in the door and let it close behind us, but walk in and then try to unlock a window or fight to let more people inside.

    Privilege and inside access can be used as a tool, access to power can be used to help those without.

    Double edged sword when you are working as a “double agent”, though. You may slip and get comfortable and choose to support the status quo, and you may find that people find you disloyal and think you’ve sold out.

    But I think its good sometimes to experience life without the burden of being oppressed because when you go back to it, you then KNOW and often fight HARDER to make things equal and fair.

    My 2 cents

  36. Kendra wrote:

    atlasien:

    It’s funny that you mention Fujimori.

    I just heard about him in reference to the descendants of (and living) Japanese Peruvians and immigrants who were taken by the US during WWII. They along with Japanese Americans were held in internment camps in the US. Many were unable to return to Peru. Twelve other Latin Americans offered the same brutal treatment to their Japanese populations (immigrants and citizen based). The US essentially kidnapped these people in exchange for trade, loans and other such benefits. Some were even deported, despite their Latin American citizenship, to Japan. Given the conditions following and preceding the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, some died not long after they were dropped off.

    The Peruvian Japanese descendants and survivors tried to appeal to Fujimori during his administration. According to Grace Shimizu, he didn’t want to associate with them. Now, since you’ve mentioned the documentary covering his time as president, I really want to see it to better understand why he was unable to help those who either wanted to go home or wanted an apology and reparations for their suffering.

    That’s another thing: Japanese Latin Americans and immigrants were not included in Reagan’s Civil Liberties Act. It along with many pieces of legislation continues to ignore many of the US’s dirty little secrets. That Act in particular was little more than a band-aid.

  37. Kendra wrote:

    correction: twelve other Latin American countries (which may include Brazil) . . .

  38. Wendi Muse wrote:

    yeah N, i am with you there. i think that’s important. for example, in my case, peers sometimes talk about “black” people (within the brazilian context, of course) having all these problems, including criminality, lack of intelligence, laziness, etc, and i have to step in always and set the record straight.

    in brazil, there is also an incredible rift between north and south. the north has the highest concentration of indigenous and black people, whereas the south has a higher concentration of whites (i.e. generations from italian, german, portuguese, spanish and [ insert predominately white western european nation here] immigrants) and asians (particularly, as previously noted, japanese). people often attribute the successes of the south to the racial differences, failing to consider a lot of the differences in the history of development in both regions, the north being predominately slave-labor dependant and the south being more industry-dependent (and, to this day, dependent on many of the natural resources from the north…how ironic).

  39. Flor wrote:

    I have something to add. As a brazilian myself, from a multicult background (I have black, indios, italian, french and portuguese background, as many brazilians) I could feel it myself. My father was white with green eyes, I am “morena” like my mother and my two brothers are white. I studied in very good schools, and despite my brothers always had many friends, I was always “put aside”, untill people discovered that I was sister of them, and my family had money. People, then, treated me normal. I was many times followed in shoppings, until I had some buyings with me… so, what I can say is that I think as black people in Brazil are less wealthy, what we have is more a segregation of class, then a segregation of color. When people see a rich black woman or man, the treatment changes completelly almost imediatelly. The matter of racism in Brazil is much more complex than just about a skin colour.

  40. Kohler wrote:

    What is African feature by the way?
    Recent study shows that the African have the most diverse set of feature existing. Therefore, this assumption that “African feature” is built on what?
    Have you travelled throughout Africa to actually see how African from West to East North to South look like?
    I give you 5 exemples of features that are African and free of any “past mixing:
    Ethiopian (Liya kebede) the skin tone there is from high yellow to dark as coffee bean.
    Somali: Iman (same)
    Sudani: Alek Wek (same)
    Awa Maiga (Senegal)
    Anyways, please bear in mind that African Features includes: thin and large nose, large and small lips, fair and dark skin, pear-shaped with wide derriere as flat-looking woman…. Anyways, stop making assumptions about African features when you do not know them or stop referring to how it has been portrayed in CNN or any of your show in USA. As being the original human it is fairly normal that the African feature bears a wide range of features.. that are reflected today in what Afro-descendant are. have ever seen Twareg? Have met Khoisan? People from Zanzibar? And please do not refer to the news about Arab or Europeans mixing or enslavering Africa… Well, history has always been a construction and a myth to serve the people in power in today’s world.
    What about an albino having kid with a non albino? What color do we have…
    And hey as it happens in any African-American family, in African families you can have children with different hues. So stop this nonsense about African features when you do not know them.
    I guess 50 Cent, Jay Z.. are true afro-descendant since they have “African feature”.
    Please travel in at least 6 of the 53 countries of the African continent, you will be amazed to see how people can look different from one city to another or from one tribe to another. This African feature thing is just like saying all Asian look alike though we very well know they don’t. I would not make a difference between a Chinese from the South and a philipino of Chinese descent since they are mostly from the same background. But people from Northern China have different set of features. However, saying African feature is just like assuming that being Asian mean : slanted eyes, beige skin, wide face… Asian people will tell you that there are so many features as well. Guess, you have also African with slanted eyes and wide faces… if i follow your line of understanding, they might be undercover asian…. Well, apart from that, colorism is just like a cancer within Black communities from all over the world and not only in US or Brasil, check India, Pakistan, Philipino, Africa, Caribeans…. If black people wanted to end it, they would have but, my cynical self do not believe in utopia. I think these communities enjoy the state of things as they are as it give some something to hold on and other something to complain. or for some others, reasons to “miscegenate”.

  41. Wendi Muse wrote:

    hi kohler,
    point well taken, which is why i said “black african features,” to at least differentiate from africans who would be considered white or non-black.
    when i said “black african features,” i am referring to the features normally associated to blacks who live in the americas. maybe to be more specific, i should have said black west african features, as the majority of the slave population in north and south america came from there.

    but even then, there is a lot of diversity, too. long story short, though, the features (upon gut reaction) associated with people of black african descent include a wider, flatter nose, larger/fuller lips, darker skin, very curly, coarse hair, dark eyes and hair

    i hope that clarifies things a little bit…

  42. Wendi Muse wrote:

    and i should say as well, in response to kohler’s comment…i am not saying all black africans look alike…i am saying that the word “negro/a” is reserved for those who fit into the brazilian context of what black african features are…i think that makes things a little clearer…the word is not assigned to people who look like liya kebede, for example, to alek wek it would be

  43. MrMarques72 wrote:

    Although I check out this site from time to time along with colorlines, both the site and the print edition, I came across this article after having read a comment at another site (abagond) which led me to racewire.org and then here. I just followed the trail after hearing about Wendi’s piece. Here’s my two cents.

    I first visited Brasil back in September of 2000. I’ve been there a total of nine times, with trips ten and eleven coming this year. I not only visit Brasil, I have also read many books dealing with race, racism and racial identity in Brasil. After reading Wendi’s piece, I knew I had to write something. My thing is, in some ways, Brasileiros, in some ways “do” race different than we do and in other ways, it is pretty much the same. What do I mean? Well, on the surface, anyone in Brasil can be whatever “race” or color category they prefer. Preto, negro, moreno, branquinha, mulato; whatever. It is ouutide of social circles where the racial hierarchy is most obvious.

    The majority of my time in Brasil has been spent in Bahia and my wife is from another famous city in that state, Ilhéus. The thing about race relations in Brasil is that everything is fine until non-white people start apearing in areas where they are traditionally expected to be. In poor areas, where there is by far an Afro-Brazilian majority (what people call preto/pardo, black/brown, negro/mulato and moreno), there are enough white folks and near white folks to give the illusion that everybody is equally poor thus “race” or color doesn’t matter.

    But statistically, even in the the favelas, whites, or those who consider themselves to be white or something close, have advantages over blacks and “mixed” people whose African ancestry is a little too visually prominent to be one of the almost whites. Even in the favela, Black/brown people still earn less than whites and their families remain in the favela on average much longer than whites. Even when there are poor whites living side by side with poor blacks, when opportunity knocks, their perceived whiteness gives them access to social networks that blacks and browns do not have. From what I’ve seen, race in Bahia is a little more smooth, but again, only on the surface.

    The government in Bahia has always been an invisible Apartheid. Take Salvador, Bahia for instance. It is the cultural capital of Brasil and is known for its vibrant African influenced culture. It may be 80% Afro-Brazilian, but the elites are all white, the elite neighborhoods are nearly all white (see the neighborhood known as Barra for example) and there is debate as to whether Salvador has ever had a black mayor. Afro-Brazilian cultural practices like the Candomblé religion and the martial art, capoeira, are used attract tourists while the Afro-Brazilians who practice it are mostly poor.

    Although I will agree that Brasil appears to be less blatantly racist than the US, active stereotypes keep Afro-Brazilians in their “place”. Middle-class Afro-Brazilians often complain of how whiter Bahians (Baianos) question them when they are in elevators of middle-class apartments. Afro-Brazilian women are always assumed to be the maids in these apartments. And quiet as kept, Brasil has been practicing a silent genocide against Afro-Brazilian males between the ages of 15 and 24 for a number of years now. In 2007, 699 of 706 males killed by police or death squads between the ages of 15 and 24 were Afro-Brazilian. While we all know of the controversy surrounding the murders of African-American males like Oscar Grant, Sean Bell and now Omar Edwards, there is simply no comparison of the rates of homicide affecting African-American males compared with that of Afro-Brazilians.

    The police in each of the cities of Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo usually kill more people than all of the combined police in the entire United States. In 1999, it was estimated that 82% of those killed by police or death squads were Afro-Brazilian. The modus operandi in Brasil is that it is assumed that everyone wants to be white. That is why it is nearly impossible to find a major Afro-Brazilian soccer player married to an Afro-Brazilian woman. Brazilians always point to higher rates of interracial marriage as proof that racism is nearly inexistent in Brasil. But, in my view, that is because as long as middle-class Afro-Brazilians continue to marry white/whiter Brazilians, after two-three generations of mixing, the appearance of the family becomes white and doesn’t pose a threat to the overall appearance of Brazil’s middle and upper classes.

    As long as everyone, white and non-white, maintain a “moreno” identity, race appears to not exist. But “race” and color DO appear when blacks and black mixed race people compete with whites and near whites for better jobs. Take a look at Brasil’s media. Reporters and hosts on Rede Globo (the largest TV network in Brasil and fourth largest in Americas after the US big three) all look as if they are from Europe. All of the wildly popular telenovelas usually have only a few Afro-Brazilian actors in the cast and usually those characters are involved in interracial relationships with whites. It is rare to see black men and women in relationships on Brazilian television. This is the invisible racism that no one talks about. In maintaining the obsession of Brasil becoming white, Afro-Brazilians are surrounded by an endoctrination process that says, “to be successful, you must be white”. Thus, on television, white men and women are always shown in relationships, but when an Afro-Brazilian is featured, they are most certainly paired with someone white.

    The dynamic of racism in social relationships is a lot more blatant in places like Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina and São Paulo where whites are the vast majority. In my view, Afro-Brazilians in these states are more likely to adapt a black identity in comparison to the northeast where the majority of the population is black.

    In my view, both systems of racial classification leaves something to be desired. In America, black folks are taught to be only black even when they clearly have other ancestral links. The hierarchy in black beauty contests tells us that we too prefer “less African” looking African-Americans. In Brazil, women like Beyonce, Halle Berry, Gabrielle Union, Meagan Good and Ciara could all be considered “mulatas”; coincidentally, they are the types of women who are hailed as symbols of beauty in black America. On the flip side, Brazilain culture teaches Afro-Brazilians that they are not black unless they are the color of someone like Flava Flav. The Afro-Brazilian who is not literally black in color is allowed to live in this bubble of “racial democracy” until they are excluded from a party or denied a job given to someone white or whiter looking.

    So, although Brasil may appear to be less problematic in terms of race than in America, when you dig a little deeper, it is actually far more complex and contradictory.

  44. timarasa wrote:

    to a previous poster about ethnic cleansing via miscegenation: not sure in brazil if there was a formally govt-sanctioned policy of literally “whitewashing” african and indigenous brazilians, but australia did with the aborigines (i.e. the “lost generations”). the government would forcibly remove ‘half-caste’ children from their aboriginal families, and place them in boarding trade schools or with new white families. the goal was to breed out the dark-skinned aboriginal communities over successive generations until they blended in with white australian society physiologically and culturally. but this tactic has been employed in countless places and circumstances for the better part of recorded human history (a very effective way to utterly vanquish a conquered people).

  45. Kohler wrote:

    Wendi, thank you for your reply.

    But as far as West African features are concerned, I have to tell you that they are far from uniformed as you think. Senegalese, Nigerian, Malian, Ghanean and so on have the same diverse set of feature within their contrymen as any other country in Africa. Alek Wek who is east African has the so-called “West African features”.
    You will find load of west African with natural jerry curly hair, thin nose, light to cocoa bean hue….

    What I would like you to understand is that, the continent as it is today has had so many mixage within its people for millenium and centuries that you can find so many diverse set of features in a country (even in West Africa) that will deride this statement of so called “West African feature”.

    You have in some countries in Africa like cameroon, the green/blue/brown eye syndrome… People with no trace of caucasian ancestry who happen to have different set of eye colors. Same with the hair, it goes from kinky, to wavy, to sleek. And most afro-descendant from the Caribeans, South United States & Brasil come from the Guinea Coast (Cameroon, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Congo…)

    Most of people and African themselves assumes that there are “set of African features” and when it does not fit the stereotype then it is alien.

    For information, the Slave trade for America & Carribeans originated from most of the Western Coast of the African continent: from Sahara occidental (south of Morocco) to the Cap (South Africa).

    In today geographical limitations it is: North Africa, West Africa, Central Africa, Austral Africa. And there are thousands of tribes comprised in that area and thousand of features as well.

    African history before was made of conquest between the different empires. Songhai, Mali, Dahomey, Ghana, Zulu etc… These people usually conquested each other, enslaved/integrated the men and marry the women to locals. Take a map of any Ancient African history (2000 years or so), you will be given an interesting insight into how mixing between tribes, nations… made it possible to have a very diverse set of features. The continent has always been largely populated with nomads who then sedentarised and marry locals tribes or vice versa. The continent as any other was made of conquests… Same with what you see in Europe with the Saxons, Wisigoths, Celts, Franks… or the Han in ancient China.

    When you tend to forget about this/or do not know (as most people including 99% of African themselves), you are sure to believe that there was one tribe of African with one feature and that stayed there to wait until being deported by Europeans.

    What African today look like from East to West, North to South is just a reflection of what millena and centuries of movement within the continent created. Slave trade took this diversity overseas. And in the continent it has continued to evolve as well even though in the past 600 years, the dismantling of empires, tribes and so on due to slave trade and then colonisation had made it impossible to rebuild the ancient grandeur, still, the diversity remains.

    As of today, African are stained with the same loss of identity and it had affected them in the worse possible ways. Speaking imposed languages, following imposed codes, thinking in a constant neo-colonialised way… Even if they admit it or not…

    I am the first to say that afro-descendant left with what was best/genuine/authentic about the continent, now 600 years later, 53 countries built on surrealistic geographical limitations, there is nothing really genuine or authentic about African today.

    The Corn of Africa (Ethipia, Somali, Sudan, Zanzibar…) has sent millions in Arabia (even if most of today’s so-called arabic like to say through slavery – though it is fairly natural for nomadic tribe to move from the Corn of Africa to the arabic peninsula – but hey, history is written by those with agendas). Most of the Gulf countries (yemen, saudi, emirates) were populated by these people then mixed with persian, indian but in today world, it is so damn bad to recognise African descent that can be traced out of so-called slavery that well, same colorism rules as it is in Brazil and US.

    What can you do? Hey look at me, I am dark-skinned and the world just don’t appreciate what I am, then I will hide somewhere until they start doing so or better I will wash out my darkness for the best of my descendant…. Irony is that, the African DNA being the original no matter what you do, they will still be people of African descent of every hue in the next millenium. People have just to start embrace their hue as a gift from mother nature and stop whining about it. US Afro fought to gain their pride. It is up to other black communities to do so or to keep enjoying the pleasure of being considered inferior to any other human. The bizarre thing is tomorrow’s world will be brown to dark… with people continuing to deny or to disenfranchise themselves from African origin as it “belittling”. Let African from the continent lead that battle of reasserting their pride & dignity and restore the thruth of their history, if they don’t well, colorism has long way to go.

    And in everyday life, I will mention something a very wise south African Motswana lady told me: if you let people discriminate you then you fell into their schemes. it is the way that you carry yourself that let people attack or leave you alone.

    Wendi:
    Whatever the state of colorism, racism is today, many thing have been accomplished to help improve “race” relations and more importantly how Black are perceived internationally : I think not many African/Black say thanks to African-Americanor Black American for keeping their head high for 600 years. I think every Black communities in this world today owe you alot. Even native Australian ignite their civil right movement looking at MLK, MX and so on.

  46. illament wrote:

    It seems to me that every country in the his world that has a colonial past still has the seed of racism deeply implanted into the existing societies of today. It’s very simple to me. If you claim to have or look like you have the blood of the imperialistic conqueror’s in your veins then you will generally be deemed as of higher class or perceived in a higher light(pun intended) than those who have been subjugated. Somewhere in the assimilation and mixture of races the old fears and hatred got passed down and still exist to this day. Beauty and success since the day I’ve seen has been largely attributed to have whiter skin and having white features. The first person that I can think of that was dark skinned with african features and was widely accepted throughout the world by all colors and creeds is Michael Jordan.
    We all want to be like Mike.

  47. Kandeezie wrote:

    Sorry to be so late to the conversation, but is this post in support of the one-drop rule?

    It seems to me that having to remind oneself of being black means that you temporarily thought of yourself as the (possible) diversity of your racial heritage but then snapped back to the one-drop understanding, where black/Africanness is a contaminator of the ‘white race’ and thus dismissing all other parts to your family history.

    I’m just afraid that in our fight for fairness, we (through USA understanding of race) are forced to forget/erase all other races/cultures that contributed to our family tree to show solidarity, and instead call it colourism when it’s really racial diversity showing itself on our skin.

  48. Wendi Muse wrote:

    no, this article is not “in support” of the one drop rule. it’s a breakdown of the difference in racial recognition and assigning in the u.s. vs. brazil, an account of the internal racism within my family, and fragmentation of people of african heritage in brazil due to the monikers they use to address themselves and related communities.

    also, colorism is prejudice and discrimination based on skin tone, so recognizing that is not denying one’s racial diversity, it’s calling out hatred when i see it.

  49. Eli wrote:

    THANKS MUCH to Kohler! Do you have more writing online? You are wise and generous with your knowledge, gracious in your thanking.
    (Thanks to Wendi for the article which brought Kohler’s comments!)

  50. N wrote:

    Kohler, whether all Africans look alike or not, I think it is fair to say after hundreds of years of having afrodescended people in a nation, that everyone in that nation is able to discern the relative African/not African ness of their own countrymen.

    What is considered not negroid may not look the same from one country to the next.But because in most of the America s each country has people who have come from a similar gene pool, one can fairly safely state that the preference for certain features or coloring is due to a preference for persons with a lower percentage of African ancestry and NOT because they have a preference for Somalis or Ethiopians etc..

    So it is a bit disingenuous to use the “All Africans don’t look alike” argument when faced with accusations of preferring the less African to the more African phenotypes. What most people mean is ,”Within our community there is a preference for the phenotypes of those who have a greater percentage of non-African admixture.”

    So that sort of takes the whole- What Does African Look Like issue off the table. The fact is, there is a preference for those whose appearances are similar to those of the afro-descended people with greater percentages of nonAfrican dmixture.

    In fact, in the African American community in the US, that often means African American males show a preference for Ethiopian and Somalian women, because their appearance WHILE AFRICAN, has the markers, so to speak, of a “typical” African American woman with some admixture- the width of facial features, the length and texture of their hair etc.. To dismiss it with ,”Well they are African” ignores the other issue- is their appearance consistent with that of most non-mixed African American women in the community.

    So lets be real here.

    (I hate posting in these tiny boxes, I cant read enough of my replies to make sure Im not repeating myself!! :) )

  51. lechatnoir wrote:

    @ N,

    First of all admixture is not supposed to be a “cover” word for Caucasian genetics , which in your post you use to explain why african american women supposedly have “less kinkier” grade of hair, the overwelmingly majority just doesn’t . There is nothing wrong with it.

    And African americans look like ethiopians ? when I look at Michelle Obama or Oprah I am not seeing that when I look at Beyonce I am not seeing that either .

    the (American mainstream ) the western mainstream for that matter favors black people with more european features and much lighter skin, and if black americans ( MEN) prefer those same eurocentric features there is no reason why it shouldn’t for the same reasons as whites . The preference is biaised and discriminative for the exact same reasons and motives.

  52. Ghetto Nerd wrote:

    PS
    I agree with lechatnoir and Kohler- let’s get real. Ethiopians and Somalis notwithstanding, what is pretty is not about being black. Case in point, in New Orleans, I was talking to some guy in the bar-black-who went on about how ugly India Arie was. Who I think is BEAUTIFUL. He kept asking me if I got lighter in the summer (I had my hair locked at the time) And I get lots of play and am acnsidered pretty by people of various backgrounds. I am just saying. The man was acting aggressively and reflecting the sickness of American society when it comes to race.

  53. Moni wrote:

    I am currently in Salvador da Bahia, Brazil and I stay mainly in the middle class areas of Barra, Vitoria, and Graca. Over the years that I have been coming here I have had a number of white and “black” Brazilians get real out of pocket with me (I am hazel nut colored with natural kinky/curly/wavy hair) on elevators, in hotel lobbies, in restaurants, etc. I even had a woman recently challenge my 11 year old African /African American son who was running ahead of me into the apartment lobby with a coconut in his hand. When she saw my white American male companion and me her tune changed, but she soon started asking me where I was from…if I was Angolan. Normally I engage with folks when they are surprised that I am American, but it really irritated me that 1. she dared to check my child for walking into the building that I pay over 1,000 usd a month to stay in and 2. that she felt the need to try to figure out what type of black I was since I wasn’t Brazilian. I also got perturbed generally that 3. folks seemed a little more tolerant of me when they saw the guy I was with.

    I could go on about my experiences and I actually wrote an essay about my first experience in Brazil called “Passing for Brazilian” (its online and easily accessible…I don’t know the site’s rules for links, so I will leave to folks to search for it if they wish) but I will just say that living in Bahia as a dark skinned African American woman has made me really appreciative for the struggles that my American ancestors went through to change the still flawed U.S. society.

  54. Wendi Muse wrote:

    ok so i am not trying to make excuses for the woman in your apt, but i think that situation might be read different ways. a) there are a lot of angolans who move to brazil to study in engineering programs. in addition, lots of angolan performers go to bahia and sao paulo, so people within those cities are familiar with them for the most part. also, if you speak portuguese with the slightest non-brazilian accent and are black, you might be mistaken many times for angolan (as their accent is more like portuguese from portugal than brazilian portuguese and way more staccato). also, if anyone’s child was running in an apartment building, as a receptionist, i might stop the person and be like um, your kid’s running in the building.

    i get mistaken for angolan sometimes, even though i have light skin (and mind you, there are light-skinned black angolans too! there just happen to be more in brazil who have darker skin) because of my accent (Which sometimes sounds more like portuguese from portugal bc of a former teacher from there). it’s not an insult and she probably was not being racist.

    you have to remember that the idea of what american looks like can be based on ignorance as much as what brazilian looks like. as a result of the media and the american pop culture that makes it down here, most of them still may see americans as white (with the exception of like…rap videos). whenever i watch american films here, it makes me really realize how whitewashed our media is…and i already knew that! so like seeing it in another country makes that feeling even more apparent.

    it also depends on how you were dressed and wearing your hair. for the most part, and i will cover that in my upcoming articles on beauty, brazilian women are encouraged to be dressed well and perfectly groomed, even down to their gym clothes. as an american, even one who cares about fashion, i don’t stress nearly as much about being perfect, and i think that is one of the things that sometimes makes me stand out (like i bite my nails, i don’t straighten my hair, etc). if you are not assumed to be american, yet you in any way seem less casual in appearance AND you are black, you may be read as a 1) maid (i know, it’s sad, but true), 2) someone from another country, or 3) someone from a lower class

    just some things to keep in mind.

  55. Jay wrote:

    What a confusing essay. All I could workout was that as a light-skinned black american in Brazil Wendi got preferential treatment.

    I could have told you this.

    Try being a dark-skinned black person visiting Asia, Eastern Europe, Latin America etc. No matter your class, nationality, amount of money you have or how you wear your hair- if you don’t think your dark skin sets you apart believe you me in these countries they will soon let you know it does. In many of these places the attitudes of the everyday person on the street make the KKK look good.

  56. Wendi Muse wrote:

    jay,

    to clarify the point of the essay…a lot of americnas, dark black people included (paris, anyone?) sometimes go abroad and make the statement that x country is less racist than the states without addressing the privilege they may have without their knowledge. i am not privileged in brazil simply as a person who has lighter skin. there are plenty of brazilians who are of african descent who have light skin (no brainer here). there is more to it than that, and i address that. i also address the fact that the privilege is somewhat uncomfortable, especially considering the reality of from where it comes.

  57. Jay wrote:

    @ Wendi- perhaps my response was a little brusque and i do appreciate your comments about privilege but i still contend (based on my experience) that nationality, class etc for some carries little weight. I should point out that I am not American and I do think that being from the US carries a certain amount of ‘mystique’ is some countries. But as a black Brit I’ve found myself in situations where being British or a tourist with money meant nothing- I’ve been ignored, stared at, refused entry to a shop etc etc.
    Still this is the first essay of yours I have read and I think you’ve picked an interest country to dissect.

    Thanks for getting back to me.

  58. Wendi Muse wrote:

    jay,

    i agree with you re: colorism. but i think it really depends on where you are. for example, the situation for dark black men, at least, in brazil is two fold. dark brazilian black men are on the one hand seen as criminals (so goes the stereotype) but then also seen as sex symbols (so goes the stereotype). funny enough, it’s a bit like the united states in that sense. but then when you throw class and nationality into the mix it complicates things. for example, black american rappers, even those of dark skin, are seen on another plane bc of a )their american-ness, b) their money, and c) their fame. considering that classism here is suuuuuper apparent, to the point that is makes me super uncomfortable (a lot of people equate being american with being filthy rich), a lot more so than in say britain or the united states, it adds extra weight to the privilege, no matter your skin color. and certain things here are read as upper class that may not be read as upper class in another country (for example, an ipod, which happens to be wicked expensive here, verses being accessible to people of the middle class, even lower middle class in the states).

    also, i have to say again that every country is different. the way race and class and nationality are thought of in brazil will be different from the way they think of these factors in argentina or colombia or peru. they may be neighbors, but their respective national histories have resulted in a different way of thinking about the aforementioned issues.

    several people commenting on this post and the other posts i have done for the brazil files series who have darker skin have mentioned the discrimination they have experienced while in brazil on account of what they believe may be directly related to their skin color. i think even that comes down to what people perceive as racism (as an american vs. someone who may have grown up in brazil) and also the general situation. i have a ton of angolan students who have very dark skin, and both their accent and color make them stand out in the region in which i live, which is predominately white. yet when i have spoken to them about racism, none of them have reported any strange incidences. yet a brazilian friend of mine, who is the same color as i am, has reported many incidents of racism and classism.

    so it’s much more complicated than just skin color. it’s a mixture of many things, some of which most tourists are rarely aware because they may not understand the nuances of discrimination that can vary based on region and countless other factors (Down to how well manicured your nails are).

    whew, sorry for such a long response. but i always keep track of the comments on my pieces bc i am happy to engage with the readers, be their feedback positive, negative, whatever!

  59. Ceci wrote:

    I’m a dark skinned woman. I am from the Dominican Republic (where I was relentlessly discriminated against, but I don’t want to go there right now) I’ve been living in America for many years now and I once had a friend from Laos who refered to some black guys driving past us as, ” those niggers”. I’m really dark, mind you, so I was shocked silent, then when I regained my voice I told her to please refrain from making such negative comments in my presence since I am also black, no matter where I’m from, and to please remember that we are all humans.