The Racialicious Roundtable For Heroes 4.11

Hosted by Special Correspondent Arturo R. García

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One episode left in Heroes’ season, and the major players are coming together again in order to … uh, save the country from themselves. Or something. We’ve got villains riffing on the Obama campaign, a family pledging to work together for about two minutes, and one brave Roundtable willing to make sense of it all for you. So here we go!

Forget saving the country; with Tim Kring writing the closer, can the Heroes even salvage their season?
Mahsino: No. It’s like we aren’t jumpin’ sharks anymore, we’re jumping humpback whales. This show half-past ridiculous, how many times can we say “this changes everything” in one episode?
Jen*: I don’t see Kring saving anything. An hour’s not long enough, anyway. Something Arturo said was on my mind as well though – every series doesn’t have 10 sucky ep’s to have 2 good ones – why is Heroes like this?
Andrea: Ever since Kring went on his blame-the-fans campaign, I felt he lost interest in saving this show, and this season was another example of his neglect. I’m surprised NBC let him get away with this, considering how rough network TV’s having it these days.
Diana: There’s nothing to save. They didn’t even keep with the theme of this chapter. It’s just been a hodge-podge of crap all season.
Erica: The only possible salvation is that overused classic — it turns out it was all a dream and we can ignore it all!

dankoknifeLet’s talk terminal! Who do you see getting offed and why?
Mahsino: Nate’s getting offed. This show isn’t big enough for both Nathan and Sylar’s eyebrows.
Jen*: If wishes came true. I’ll take the obvious choice: Danko.
Mahsino: Somehow I manage to forget about his presence as soon as he’s not in the shot. I second that recommendation.
Diana: I’m with Jen on this one. Once Sylar pulled that knife out of his head, my thought was, “Danko the troll is gonna get it now.”
Erica: Yeah, Danko goes bye-bye. Sadly, much as I wish Nathan would finally give up the ghost, he’ll be sticking around to give Peter somebody to whine at.
Andrea: What? As much as we carry on about her, no one wants Claire offed? Or better yet, the show’s wigmaker? (The former ’cause she has to be about the most useless main character, and the latter…well, look at what zie’s been putting on the former’s head.)
Mahsino: Much as I might wish it to be so, I just don’t see her biting the bullet- that would just make too much sense.

ParkmanfamilyWas anybody else half-wishing Hiro and Ando would ask Matt, “Hey, aren’t you gonna tell your wife about Daphne?Or am I just mean?
Mahsino: Janice looks an awful lot like Daphne when you look at their faces. And my, my, Matt forgot about Daphne real quick.
Jen*: I was just thinking that he had an awfully short memory to forget Daphne so quickly. Especially with all the cheese of a mock trip to Paris in his arms – how many eps ago?
Diana: You’re right, Matt really isn’t acting like a man who lost the love of his life and that makes him really flaky. To be fair, in this episode, he didn’t have time to have a heart to heart with Janice. And honestly, would we care at this point?
Erica: Care? No. Matt’s certainly not the man he was a few seasons ago (hell, he’s even forgotten about Tortoise; WHO IS FEEDING TORTOISE!) and while I still find him one of the most likeable guys, the competition from other male characters is pretty crap.
Andrea: But, honestly, y’all, Daphne was a pretty forgettable character, so I’m not going to fault Matt for that lapse of memory. Hell, I forgot about her … but then, I own my meanness, too.

So are we supposed to believe that Hiro is FINALLY over it as far as Ando’s powers? And what do you think of “The Crimson Arc”?
Mahsino: Okay, so I know this is really kinda out there, but the Crimson Arc totally seems like a euphemism for menstrual cycles.
Jen*: Please don’t say it. Don’t say what I’m thinking. You did! You said it. AAGH.
Mahsino: Come on, it was sooo awkward and obvious. Hiro even called it unfortunate.
Jen*: Of all the names. Why Crimson?
Diana: Mahsino, you are so right. LOL I have to pop a Midol just thinking about it.
Erica: Gah, THAT’S why it weirded me out, hahaha! We just learned there aren’t a lot of female writers on staff at Heroes … (Oh, and Hiro’s just finishing his usual “I learned something” cycle, which he completes every 28 days season.)
Andrea: Which, Erica, brought on my usual eyeroll.

HiromaskOpen Mic!
Mahsino: So on the plus side: Danko finally took the damn shot.
For the negatives (and there’s lots of ‘em), the whole implied “all Asians look alike and therefore interchangeable” bit is getting a bit tired. It wasn’t cool when Dollhouse did it, it isn’t cool when Heroes does it.
And through this whole Sylar arch I was thinking to myself: is Sylar supposed to be Norman Bates 2.0? I about turned it off when we played the “interacts with ghosts card”. Some might recall, that’s what made me jump the Grey’s Anatomy ship. The only thing saving Heroes at this point is the Roundtable. And just how did they find Mo’, but not the Benetrelli’s in the desert again? Do the cameras only pick up colored presence?
Jen*: I wanted a Sylar/Micah dream team SOOO bad! Sylar can work things out with his dead mom a la Psycho, but a live boy with awesome techno-powers? Can’t get along. Eh.
Mahsino: Really? I thought Micah had a distinct Magic Colored Boy Who Brings A Conscience to the Troubled White Fella feeling from the whole ordeal.
Andrea: Co-sign, Mahsino.
Jen*: I can see that – but could they not have been a bit awesome together? Maybe I just want Micah to get more screen time, but, they could’ve really sewn some things up. Considering Micah seems to have locs on all the relevant heroes. Also, I’m dreaming of someone throwing a knife into the back of Nathan’s head. That’d make the finale really sing.
*I’m not sure how we were supposed to take Sylar-as-Nathan’s speech about the president and “change”, but it felt really weird to me. I’ve always felt more comfortable when Heroes stays in more of a fantasy world, and doesn’t try to make comments on real life. This was…can’t-put-my-finger-on-it…uncomfortable.
Mahsino: But him meeting the President “changes everything”. Plus, I’d rather Micah just not get dragged down with this ship at all.
Jen*: But you know he still has some weird connection to Tracy – who *Is* coming back. Somehow. So, there’ll be that.
Mahsino: Either her or Barbara, the triplet/quadruplet (since I guess we’re supposed to have forgotten about Jessica.)
Jen*: I wondered why they listed them as triplets and there was no Jessica. Sometimes I think the writers didn’t watch the first season.
Diana: I really wish someone would tell Nathan he can’t fix jack *&@!! and then punch him in the face. And what was that Sylar/Nathan channeling Barack Obama change speak? Can the writers on this show come up with anything remotely original? On a more positive note, I did like the the Sylar-Micah interaction. Micah has the ability to tame a psycho with his purity of heart–that was a nice touch. But with Sylar, nice can only last for so long. At this point, I’m thinking they should just scrap Heroes and have two spin-off shows:
1. The Adventures of Hiro and Ando; and
2. The Sylar Chronicles. The little boy who plays Micah has his career ahead of him and should find a better vehicle for his talents.
Erica: YES, I want to see Micah in other things too. (Preferably not The Sylar Chronicles, though. I’m thinking an hour of all-Sylar would get dull quickly, despite the fact that I like Zachary Quinto.)

I think Sendhil R.’s expression here is pretty fitting for the season so far. Time to Caption The Pic!
Mahsino: he’s totes doing the whole MySpace “angles”. I could totally see him thinking “This is gonna be my Profile pic” as he took it.
Jen*: I’m getting a flashback to the “Whasssssssssssssssup!” commercials…
Diana: Look at me, I’m so pretty.
Erica: Mmmm… I’ll lick your ear if you lick mine!
Andrea: Ummm…..uuuhhhh……excuse me, Roundtable. ::leaves computer and grabs vibrator::

And on that uh, romantic note we’ll let you go for now … This week, the big question: Who still has any patience for this show anymore?

Top image courtesy of Greg Beeman
All other images courtesy of Heroeswiki
Previously: Racialicious Heroes Archive

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Comments

  1. Madame Zenobia wrote:

    I didn’t watch last night’s episode; had drinks with friends instead. But from what I gather, it saddens me.

    With that said, I agree with you all on how quickly Matt seems to have forgotten “the love of his life”, Daphne. It reminded me of another former love by the name of Simone. Remember? Peter shed one-tear for her and BOOM! she was gone and forgotten. (was there even a funeral?) *le sigh*

    If you are not Tracy/Claire/Angela on this show, you, female, will not last. How unfortunate is that? :(

    Danko dead? Unfortunately no…not yet. I’d rather he’d stay and a couple others go; namely either Peter or Nate or Claire. Claire, because she’s useless. Peter because he grates my nerves as of late and he’s pretty useless. Nathan because quite frankly I think Adrian Pasdar is bored of what they’re doing to his character.

    I am not hopeful for the new season. This show has lost its magic. I mean, it’s just GONE. I can watch Season 1 and feel the ‘good good’ I felt when I first watched it; feel it even after repeated viewings. I agree, this season was all over the damn place; a hodgepodge as you have stated…

    :(

    And where is the tortoise indeed?

  2. Blu2 True wrote:

    My boyfriend said it perfectly:

    Last nights conclusion felt like those make-believe games u used to play as a kid where your friend “killed” you but you come back to life somehow to stay in the game and your friends say “uh uh! no fair i killed you! you can’t come back” and your response is “nuh uh! I came back cuz I actually caught the built in my skin that was actually bullet proof in that specific corner and you didnt see the magic fairy of life make it all better! So i’m alive! and I can still play!”

    Does that make sense to you guys? cuz it made sense to me and i love my bf for saying it lololol

  3. jen* wrote:

    I gotcha Blue – I gotcha. I also wanted to say “no backsies” when it comes to death.

    And Mme. Z – I still miss Simone.

  4. Mahsino wrote:

    ahem…..
    CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    *not that I’m gloating or anything, but the running man was done last night.

  5. Mr. Noface wrote:

    @ Blu2 True

    It made perfect sense to me, and similar thoughts were running through my head win I watched last night’s episode. Is it bad when you actually start cheering when you think that one of the “good guys” is dead? That’s exactly what I did, only to be left with the “Aww…tha’s B*ll Sh*t!” feeling by the end of the show.

  6. PPR_Scribe wrote:

    the Crimson Arc totally seems like a euphemism for menstrual cycles.

    …And, Hiro keeps bleeding when he tries ot use his powers. Hmmm…I’ll have to have a think on that.

  7. Madame Zenobia wrote:

    @ jen,

    A moment of silence for Simone…and all the other used and abused, thrown out misbegotten, forgotten, extraneous characters with better acting ability a lot more depth that we have lost through the years of this show…all in sacrifice for the almighty Benetrelli.

    *sigh*

    *spew*

    *hurl*

    LOL

    Nathan, please stay dead.

  8. Kendra wrote:

    Can someone explain the apparent body double burning in the fire?

    How did they manage to get a second Sylar when the real Sylar is unable to remember that he is Sylar (now the new Nathan)?

  9. Blu2 True wrote:

    @ Kendra

    apparently HRG said ‘there is a shape shifter in area ‘blah-blah-blah’ which I guess we’re supposed to assume they got the shifter to turn into sylar then they killed him while in sylar’s form . . . .

    plot hole much? when mutants -I’m sorry- ‘people with abilities’ die don’t they resume their natural form? ala chick from season whenever who kidnapped Micah for Linderman and Sylar himself when he was stabbed with the tranquilizer in the car with the prez?

    Sigh. . . .

    Please refer to my magical elf and bullet-proof mole on my skin theory above. . . smh

  10. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    @Kendra–

    *SPOILER ALERT*

    Let me see if I got this right: Sylar co-opted/absorbed/killed the poor soul who was a shapeshifter. The last person said shapeshifter morphed into before Sylar killed him was Sylar himself. And the Sylar-shaped body was kept around to fool folks into believing that Sylar is dead. Which, apparently, had its final use in the season ender.

  11. jen* wrote:

    TCS and B2T are both right – the Sylar body double that got burned had chosen Sylar as his last shape to shift into – however, every time I’ve ever seen a shapeshifting hero [this show, or otherwise - most notably Mystique] they would revert to original form when killed.

    Of course, logic does not apply here. Kring did this.

  12. Hibbs4Prez wrote:

    As bad as “Heroes” has gotten I can’t blame the loss of Simone for being a reason. That was a horrible character played by a horrible actress.

  13. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    @Kendra @jen*–really, the whole thing was an elaborate set-up for Zachary Quinto to take naps and get paid for it. All that Star Trek-starring stuff must tire a person out. (/snark)

  14. Madame Zenobia wrote:

    @ 12,

    I hear you. I meant only to parallel the menfolks reactions to losing their beloved lady loves. Pete, back then; Matt, now. But women get the shaft a lot in this genre don’t they?

  15. Kendra wrote:

    @TCS and Blu2 True:

    Thanks. Now I remember that guy. Also, I would have not realized that shape-shifter death and then revert to original form trend if you hadn’t mentioned it. Guess it wasn’t much of a trend if that one guy could just die while in Sylar’s guise . . .

  16. Anonymous wrote:

    Doesn’t Hiro say that the Crimson Arc has “unfortunate connotations”? lol

    @Mahsino & Jen: The real Jessica Sanders was Niki’s “sister”, but I’m assuming she wasn’t actually blood related to the triplets.

    @Madame Z: Speaking of the menfolks’ reactions to losing their beloved lady loves… am I the only one who wonders what the hell happened to Caitlin (Peter’s gf from Ireland) after he left her in the “future”? He sure got over that one quickly.

  17. hexy wrote:

    I missed this one due to life = angst, but my absent contribution can be summed up in two sentences.

    *ahem*

    I’ve made it this far, but this was the first Heroes episode I nearly didn’t bother finishing. Halfway through I was fed up with it being shit and nearly turned it off.

  18. Mr. Noface wrote:

    This has gone on long enough. We’ve all had fun mocking the many, many, many…..MANY shortcomings of this show, but it’s time for NBC and us to move on. This show needs to be cancelled (like yesterday)! There are a couple of good to great actors/actresses on this show that are being pulled down by the ultimate fail that the series has become. Say a prayer, pay your final respects, and pull the plug because Heroes has been “brain dead” since Season 2.

  19. Lisa J wrote:

    @Mr Noface, I think I have to cosign. I just watched this episode on the dvr a few days ago and the last one is floating out there on my dvr and I still haven’t watched it. The main reason I did watch it was so I could finally read this roundtabe. That is bad when you only watch a show you once thought was amazing just to read a blog post discussion in it. I don’t really want to watch the last one actually, but I’ve invested all this time in it I figure I have to watch the finale, especially if I want to read the last roundtable and write up, I have to, but I think I’ll take my time. Sigh. This show started out so well and was fairly diverse for a network show and now it is trash. If it was like this when it started I wouldn’t have gotten past 15 mins of viewing. So sad.