Revisiting ‘Dollhouse’

By Special Correspondent Arturo R. García

dollhouselogo

WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD

I’m not ready to excuse Joss Whedon for the issues Thea Lim brought up in February, but I’m glad to see that POCs are the most compelling characters on Dollhouse this season.

Sure, Eliza Dushku still takes center stage as Echo – she’s the star and a producer, so whaddaya gonna do? — but the show’s improvement over the past few weeks is, for my money, directly related to it taking on more of an ensemble feel, rather than Echo’s Tough Girl Adventure Theatre. And in a welcome change from Whedon’s usual formula, it’s an older black man, Boyd Langton (Harry Lennix), who has emerged as the series’ conscience.

topherboydIn the early going, Boyd was the POV character for the audience – the rookie Watcher handler trying to make sense of what and why the Dollhouse does what it does, and overcoming the creepiness of being the go-to guy for a girl with the brains of a CD-RM. Further inverting Whedonite expectations, resident geek Topher (Fran Kranz), who looks like the kind of guy fans would be asked to “relate to,” is revealed as an utter skeeve-bucket, closer in character to Warren Mears than Xander Harris. (I’m hoping Topher’s Asian assistant, played by Liza Lapira, plays a bigger role later in the year — one tied in to a come-uppance for him.)

We don’t know why Boyd, a former cop, ended up working for the ‘House, but his sensibilities translate to action when he saves another Doll, Sierra, after she’s molested by her own handler, an act which gets him put on the bench when Echo is sent on double-secret operations like attacking hapless FBI agent Paul Ballard (Tahmoh Penikett) or “allowed” to escape for the sake of removing a glitch in her programming. It’s Langton who’s the cool guy in this collection of broken psyches, without being a stock Cool Guy.

sierraechoSpeaking of Sierra, Dichen Lachman has gotten the chance to shine in both her Doll persona and, in last week’s episode, as her alter-ego, Priya. When Sierra, as a safe-cracker, is dispatched to save a wonky Echo, Lachman demonstrates her action chops. And as the viewers are asked to consider the possibility that two Dolls (Sierra and Victor) can be attracted to each other both in and out of their mind-wiped state, Lachman and Enver Gjokaj’s performances, so far, have made it plausible, if not quite believable. And another POC, Mellie/November (Miracle Laurie), was at the center of the single best twist of the series so far; “There are three flowers in a vase” still makes me squirm when I think of it.

By the way, my take on the Dollhouse decor looks to be holding up: the Asian affectation is just a “pleasantly” blank slate to both match the Dolls and lull them further into submission, concealing stark hallways, a fleet of vehicles and a decidedly not-blank arsenal at the handlers’ disposal. To say nothing of the anonymous, Agent-like security forces backing up the handlers. Thankfully, there’s been a lack Geisha sightings since the pilot episode.

The series’ improvement might be too little, too late; though Fox has reportedly said it will air the rest of this season’s episodes, low ratings (2.2 last week, or 8th for its’ time slot) don’t bode well for a renewal. But, even if Whedon can’t see fit to create relevant Latino characters despite setting three series in frakking Los Angeles, it’s good to see at least a couple of positive POC on one of his programs.

Boyd/Topher image courtesy of Watching Dollhouse
Sierra/Echo image courtesy of IO9

Share and Enjoy:
  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • StumbleUpon
  • del.icio.us
  • Google Bookmarks
  • NewsVine
  • Current
  • email
  • Print

Trackbacks & Pings

  1. Daughter of the Ring of Fire » Blog Archive » Dollhouse: Needs on 09 Apr 2009 at 7:30 pm

    [...] ETA: Arturo R. García examines the roles of POC in Dollhouse at Racialicious. [...]

  2. Blog@Newsarama » Blog Archive » Friday Linkblogging! on 10 Apr 2009 at 11:49 am

    [...] of Dollhouse, Racialicious looks at the cast and finds non-white characters the most interesting in the [...]

Comments

  1. hexy wrote:

    I watched episode eight last night. Spoilers for that.

    I’m INCREDIBLY pissed that they’ve chosen the Asian doll to be the one who was “bought and sold” into slavery, with the intention being that she’s an unwilling sex slave (to a greater, more deliberately underlined by Mr “I have issues with Asians” Whedon” than the others), especially as they’ve then taken that storyline in the direction of rape.

    I’m also not pleased that I managed to watch the “rape” episode without an issue, but was seriously triggered by the downright eroticised flashback scenes in the following two episodes.

    Angry hexy!

    For what it’s worth, a friend and I are (slowly, it’s a bad time for a project) working on a piece about Dollhouse from the perspective of sex workers. I’ll let you know when it’s up.

  2. thesciencegirl wrote:

    Is Mellie a POC?

  3. B wrote:

    I’m hoping Topher’s assistant, Ivy, has a larger role too, I have a theory that she’s the mole. Not based on any facts, but rather my desire to see her be more than his sidekick.

    I’m not sure what’s up with FOX shows and minority lab assistants – both Ivy and Astrid on Fringe have frustratingly minor roles as support and a backboard to bounce witty lines off of. Astrid is a frickin’ FBI agent, and Ivy is obviously brilliant. USE them, for crying out loud.

  4. Thea Lim wrote:

    Heh heh Arturo I have been quietly watching Dollhouse despite my race-based protestations! For a while I just watched it for something to do, but much to my surprise it actually really has started to get better.

    I’m not sure I have as positive a read on the POC characters as you – I appreciate that the show is employing and showcasing POC actors but I feel as if the race of those characters is erased. While Whedon is obviously always thinking about gender and power, his characters are firmly raceless.

    I have to agree with hexy that as much as I enjoy the show purely for entertainment, Whedon is even making some bizarre choices in terms of gender politics. While Buffy was so thrilling in terms of showcasing women in (physical) power, now Whedon’s either just still playing that card (with Echo), which by now is pretty old and tired, or his gender politics are simply regressing.

    I was really irritated and quite put off with the treatment of Sierra’s conflict (ie her conflict being that she needs to confront the man who is sexually abusing and enslaving her) I wasn’t irritated by the conflict but rather what passed for “closure” ie watching her bf Victor punch Nolan in the face a few times. Why didn’t Sierra punch him in the face herself? She’s obviously capable.

    Similarly she is rescued from her abusive handler by Boyd. Why doesn’t the script let this lady have any agency or let her stand up for herself, and how is it closure to watch someone else pop Nolan in the face once or twice, and then get hunted down by his goons?

    I *did* like how Mellie rescued herself from Sierra’s ex-handler (can’t remember name). Why doesn’t Sierra get to do the same? Is it because she’s an Asian Doll? (pun intended) I don’t think the reasoning is as simplistic as that, but it does rankle me that the most visible WOC on the show is also the one who gets repeatedly “rescued”.

  5. June wrote:

    Tahmoh Pennikett is First Nations-his mom’s Nation is in the Yukon territory in Canada

  6. jen* wrote:

    Despite the POC issues aired here, I’m definitely a fan of Dollhouse. At first, I was just giving it a chance – then it started getting good.

    Reconciling what’s there and what’s not when the ‘actives’ are in their tabula rasa state is sometimes frustrating though. on the last ep, why did Victor have more range than Sierra? Was it because of who they were before? Or how much of themselves was allowed to bleed through, due to the closure programming?

    I have questions after every episode, but I have to say, I’m enjoying the ride.

  7. B wrote:

    @thesciencegirl: Mellie is not a POC. Tangently, though, many viewers seem pleasantly surprised at the use of a fuller-figured woman (relatively speaking, of course, this IS still Hollywood) in a role that doesn’t comment on it at all and treats her as a sexually desirable woman.

    @Thea Lim: Sierra’s first assignment that we see is her rescuing Echo during the hostage negotiator job – she comes bursting in kicking butt. And then she’s called upon to rescue Echo-as-Taffy when the art heist goes wrong. It’s pretty obvious as I type that, though, that the sorts of situations where she has been used as a rescuer have been decidedly non-sexual situations, and never a rescue of HERSELF. Hmm.

  8. bradski wrote:

    Tahmoh P. may be of Native heritage but isn’t he coded white here and in most of his roles? Wentworth Miller is mixed-race but he largely plays white characters. However, Miller’s non-white heritage is visibly easier to discern than Penniket’s.

    In American society, doesn’t it seem that it seem acceptable to be recognized as white with Native ancestry with no negative consequences in comparison to white with African ancestry?

  9. Arturo wrote:

    Similarly she is rescued from her abusive handler by Boyd. Why doesn’t the script let this lady have any agency or let her stand up for herself, and how is it closure to watch someone else pop Nolan in the face once or twice, and then get hunted down by his goons?

    I’ll agree with you on the latter question, but as far as the former, in that situation, Sierra was in her blank state — so, she, like the rest of the Dolls, is programmed to obey the handlers and the staff.

    As far as why the Asian character was “chosen” to get put through the ringer, my own supposition is, somebody was going to be, besides Echo (who is the star/focal point), and Sierra as a character drew the short straw. It’s conceivable to me that the character would be going through the same conflicts regardless of the race of the actor playing her.

  10. Joseph wrote:

    @bradski
    “In American society, doesn’t it seem that it seem acceptable to be recognized as white with Native ancestry with no negative consequences in comparison to white with African ancestry?”

    I guess that’s true if don’t think living with a legacy of genocide is a “negative consequence.” C’mon man. Do we have to reflexively whip out the paper bag every time we talk about someone who isn’t immediately recognizable as being Of Color? Sorry to snark on you but I am weary of these kinds of questions because I never think they lead anywhere.

    @Arturo
    I am really glad you have returned to Dollhouse. I was turned off by it early but a few friends urged me to look at it again. I’ve tuned in for the last two weeks and I agree it has definitely gotten better since the pilot (which I thought was kinda dull, actually). The awakening episode reminded me a bit of the Prisoner, in a good way. I think if it was given the chance to develop it might become something interesting.

    PS
    I also checked back in on Fringe and I have really been enjoying it too although I cosign the ridiculousness of having Astrid just standing around. We want more Astrid!

  11. bradski wrote:

    BTW, I can’t stand the Topher character. He’s just one walking stereotype of geeky badness. Blech. Blech. Blech.

    How many times have we seen the same nebbish, short but cute white guy technical genius who has some issues? Can we count the series in which a similar character has appeared.

    Whedon has always been good about growing characters, making them more three dimensional as they go through a journey. Hopefully, that will be the case here.

    Frankly, I enjoy Fox’s Sci-Friday. Both the Sarah Connor Chronicles and The Dollhouse are good programs. I wish that they aired on more viewer-friendly nights to improve the ratings of both shows.

    Fox’s FX Network has been successful with its cable programs, Nip/Tuck and The Shield. If there isn’t room on Fox’s broadcast channel, maybe there’s room on FX or the Sci-Fi (Syfy) Channel?

  12. Mahsino wrote:

    *head hung low*
    I like dollhouse, but it i have to place it in the same category I do Firefly- with a giant asterisk.

    I have a problem with the fact that they can’t even come out and say she was raped. Let’s call a spade a spade, whenever they gloss over the word, it seems to me that they’re trivializing what happened to her.

    @Arturo re:the short straw
    I also think that November and Sierra could’ve shared the short end of the stick. Sierra could’ve lost a kid and November could’ve been the sex slave (not excusing the practice). It just seems unfairly weighted that the Asian doll is the one who bears the brunt all of the sexual abuse in the Dollhouse. But, like you said before, I’d still take issue about the rape-y tone the show seems to be taking.

  13. Thea Lim wrote:

    @ Arturo
    Agreed with you on both points – I don’t really think Whedon was rubbing his palms together, trying to think of racist stereotypes for his female East Asian actor. What bugs me is just optics – don’t know about intention but with something as visual as TV the way things winds up looking can sometimes be as problematic (if not more) than the intention behind it. So I kinda hate how passive they’ve made their Asian actor.

    @Joseph
    Also agreed. I was just looking at Tahmoh Penikett’s Wikipedia page and was pleased to find out about his Native heritage.

    I think it’s too bad that he does always get cast as white (I think I even read some critique of BSG’s racial politics complaining that in Season 1 Boomer gets with Helo b/c he is whitest of all white guys). I wonder how he feels about it. I can’t think of a single lucrative role for a Native actor on mainstream TV (surprise…).

    What does “whipping out the paper bag” mean?

  14. Joseph wrote:

    @Thea Lim
    “Whipping out the paper bag” was meant to reference the paper bag test that African Americans used to self-segregate into “light-skinned” groupings. As in: if you are darker than a paper bag you can’t come in. Beige door frames were used for this purpose as well.

    These sorts of discourses (”coded white” etc.) always have a whiff of that sort of self-segregation to me… That is my take, I am not saying that is what bradski intended. And if others think this kind of thing is valuable then I respect that. But for me they are essentially conservative and exclusionary.

    BTW: Adam Beach was on Law and Order for a minute as a cop. Not sure what became of his character but I thought it was interesting/un-stereotypic that he was a Native guy who was an NYC cop.

  15. hexy wrote:

    Re: Short straw

    I’m not necessarily angry because thus far the Asian character has copped the worst of it, as there’s plenty of room for everyone else to have horrible, horrible things happen to them, and this being a Whedon show they probably will.

    I’m angry because of the specific kind of shit they’ve given Sierra, past and present. “Asian victim of sex trafficking” is hardly a concept without a bunch of baggage, and it’s baggage that directly and negatively affects Asian sex workers, particularly Asian migrant sex workers, every day.

  16. Tablesaw wrote:

    @B

    It took some searching because Laurie’s not very well known, but at least one website states that “her mother is Hawaiian (Polynesian).”

  17. Hibbs4Prez wrote:

    Joseph, if an actor appears “white” but is also of Native American heritage and he plays a character who is presented as being both white and Native American then that is indeed progress and I would chalk that character up as a POC (or a partial POC). But when by all indications the character is presented as the default race of Hollywood shows and films (white) then I concur with bradski. I’m afraid with Tahmoh looking as he does, TPTB has to point out in some way that his FBI character (Ballard?) is of mixed racial heritage for us to see him as a POC. Otherwise he is just another white guy (no offense to white guys).

  18. Hibbs4Prez wrote:

    It took some searching because Laurie’s not very well known, but at least one website states that “her mother is Hawaiian (Polynesian).”
    __________________________-

    Keanu Reeves is of similiar heritage. But because he looks more like the white side of his heritage and because in his film roles his characters are mainly presented, for al intents and purposes, as white, the majority of the audience sees him as white as well.

  19. hexy wrote:

    I had no idea Dichen Lachman was Australian! For one of our big exports, I know very few people who give a shit about Neighbours.

  20. Joseph wrote:

    @Hibbs4Prez
    Tahmoh Pinkett is an actor. He has absolutely no control over who casts him for what. It is not uncommon for people to not be cast-able for their own ethnic category. Casting in ethnic terms goes toward stereotype and most often does not reflect reality, which is more complex. (Which is how Italian Americans made a cottage industry out of playing Natives for most of the history of cinema) If that is your point, then okay.

    But whether or not Tahmoh Pinkett is cast as Native or not, he IS Native. Like African Americans, the wide range of skin tones and phenotypes among Native folks are historically due to rape more than consensual sex, so it is grotesque to trip on their “coded whiteness.” Given that lived reality for both African Americans and Natives your phrase “partial POC” is a conscious erasure of that history. And I don’t think that is okay.

  21. Sadface wrote:

    As far as why the Asian character was “chosen” to get put through the ringer, my own supposition is, somebody was going to be, besides Echo (who is the star/focal point), and Sierra as a character drew the short straw. It’s conceivable to me that the character would be going through the same conflicts regardless of the race of the actor playing her.

    Interestingly, the casting guidelines specifically asked Sierra to be “Asian or any ethnicity – certainly not Caucasian”. For every other character, it said “any ethnicity”.

    The character was meant to be Asian, and this begs the question why her, why Asian. And why is it only this one character whose ethnicity was important enough to specify further? Why was she the only one who couldn’t be Caucasian?

    I agree with everyone who said that it was ridiculous that we were supposed to think that Sierra had reached “closure” by listening to her rapist gloat over how he’s going to rape her again.
    The whole idea that rape and sex slavery is something that a woman can get over in just one day… especially when it’s still ongoing… who thought that was a good idea? And she gets over it thanks to what? Getting kissed all better by a guy she’s known for a few hours? So rape victims just need to get laid?
    The writing doesn’t seem to realize the severity of the issue… I also doubt that a mother could find “closure” over her daughter’s death just by crying herself to exhaustion for a few hours, but rape is the touchier topic… and you’d wish that Whedon, the supposed feminist, knew better than to treat the issue in such a manner…

  22. Arturo wrote:

    Sadface,

    Wow, that just puts a whole new spin on things. Ho-lee crap. Sincerely, thank you for bringing that to my attention! :)

  23. Joseph wrote:

    @Sadface
    Cosign Arturo. Wow.

    So the implication then is that sexual slavery is “certainly not Caucasian” and in fact probably “Asian”? Woo. Okay, I wasn’t sensitive to the other arguments about Whedon’s Orientalism (ie the decor etc.) but this is another ballgame. Fuck, man.

  24. Hibbs4Prez wrote:

    But whether or not Tahmoh Pinkett is cast as Native or not, he IS Native. Like African Americans, the wide range of skin tones and phenotypes among Native folks are historically due to rape more than consensual sex, so it is grotesque to trip on their “coded whiteness.” Given that lived reality for both African Americans and Natives your phrase “partial POC” is a conscious erasure of that history. And I don’t think that is okay.

    —————————————————–
    No offense but if the majority of the audience does not realize that an actor is of mixed racial heritage and TPTB do not indicate that the character is of mixed heritage, then in the end part of his/hers racial background is essentially erased. Anyone who has seen screenplays will know that the vast majority of the time the only racial descriptions are given to characters who are not white. White characters on the other hand are the default characters who don’t need to have the adjective “white” placed in front of them (again, not most times). Sometimes their eye color, hair color and skin complexion are described but only to show how they differ from other white characters. So when the majority of the audience see Tahmoh they will view his character as white. The only way for most to think differently in this case is for the character to be written that way or to at least have his ethnic background be mentioned.

    And I used the term partial POC because I didn’t want to piss off the folks who don’t think that a person being at last half white should be consider as a person of color (they would think that would be ignoring their white heritage).

    Last of all willing miscegenation is the reason for most of the different clor tones in the skins of African Americans (which I am one) and Native Americans (which I’m also part of). This notion that rape to this day explains the existence of most light-skinned blacks is faulty. Obviously we know of the horrible history of rape by whites. But black people have willingly mixed with Native Americans, whites, Asians and non-black Latinos in this nation for over 200 years as well.

  25. Thea Lim wrote:

    @Hibbs4Prez

    I think you are missing what Joseph is saying. Penikett is Native. Or look at it this way – he’s as Native as Obama is Black. Sure he is not perceived as such or cast as such, but he is Native. To say that he isn’t is offensive and also clearly inaccurate.

    Whether or not part white folks of colour identify or white or as of colour is their business (and it’s usually shaped in large part by how they are perceived and treated by those around them). It’s very problematic for anyone else to tell them what they are.

    What if someone was going around saying that all Westerners are essentially white by virtue of nationality? Assuming you are American, I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if someone said that you’re not really a person of colour because you’re American.

  26. Thea Lim wrote:

    Sorry…that should’ve read “Whether or not part white folks of colour identify AS white”

  27. B wrote:

    What was meant by “closure,” exactly? Because none of the things that happened would bring closure to us in the sense that we got over the event. Did the closure come from the Dolls knowing why they were in the Dollhouse? Victor sticcks out as the only one this didn’t apply to, since he was the only one whose background we didn’t learn anything about. That had bothered me when I first watched the episode, and now it makes it almost impossible to find a universal explanation for the closure each Doll experienced.

    According to an interview I read with Eliza Dushku, one of the themes that she and Whedon wanted to highlight was how objectification hurts both the objectified and the ones doing the objectifying. From what I understand, human trafficking of East-Asians is a major problem in Los Angeles, where Dollhouse takes place. Am I grasping for straws here wondering if this is a way to bring in real-life human trafficking issues rather than leaving the viewer thinking this is all make-believe fantasy land?

  28. Melinda C wrote:

    @ Sadface – The piece you quoted said “Asian OR any other ethnicity.” What if she’d been hispanic?? To me personally – her ethnicity is very unclear…and the actual actress is bi-racial.

    Perhaps instead of glorifying or condoning sex trafficking – Whedon might be pointing out that this occurs quite often to people of color, and making some commentary about the brutality of it? I certainly wasn’t gleeful that the Asian-looking character was involved in sex-trafficking, but would have felt the same way about any of them…male or female.

    I’m not saying it couldn’t be construed in a negative light and point to race issues Whedon struggles with…but couldn’t it also be a reflection of our society (as ugly as it is)? The Dollhouse itself is a giant bleeding metaphor for prostitution…which to this point hasn’t affirmed or denied it. Just presented it, and left it up to the audience to decide.

    Also – Sierra’s British accent and sassy attitude indicate she might have been in the same social strata as the man who bought and sold her. How else would she have had the power to say no initially?

    Certainly her accent indicates she was raised in England or Australia (perhaps born there). The rich guy indicated it was very difficult to perform this feat of sex slavery, which suggests to me Sierra had the power to put up opposition.

    The morality of the Dollhouse is constantly in question. And if nothing immoral were shown, if nothing controversial were shown…what would be the relevance of the show?

  29. Embarcadero13 wrote:

    Cosign Melinda on the moral ambiguity. The use of the Dolls is supposed to bother us, supposed to make us uneasy, and supposed to question the concept of “free will” (did anyone really* sign up for that)?

    Re: Sexual slavery— In the last episode, while Victor was ruffling through his costumes worn as an “Active,” he ran across crotchless leather pants that looked like that of a boy toy, a male prostitute to be exact. It was a subtle reminder that men are used just as much as women in this establishment.

    Personally, its always hard for me to see women of color being victimized. In this instance, I got through the initial Sierra episode and found that plotline itself was legitimate, but I’m also growing weary of the repeated flashbacks. The plot needs to go somewhere, or go away. Sierra cannot be the Victim amongst victims, especially since her character is otherwise a strong one.

    Of course, Dollhouse can just go the way of Heroes and drop all interesting characters of color within a couple of episodes. That way Dollhouse gets the bragging rights of “diversity” without the actual responsibility… I’m kidding, but it does make me wonder– in a place as ominous as the Dollhouse, what roles would I want to see played by actresses of color? All the Dolls are used, abused, put on “assignments,” treated as objects. A female “Handler” of color would likely be a sassy/ “tough” character who is subject to extensive physical violence… Adelle is cold, calculating and manipulative… Other than Boyd and Echo, it’s a show of anti-heroes. Personally, I need more heroes that look like me before idolizing the anti.

  30. Sadface wrote:

    Melinda, I really don’t know how to interprete the casting instructions… The way it was worded always struck me as interesting.
    My initial impression was that Sierra’s description was the only way to make sure that no white actress would get picked in the end. Almost every “any ethnicity” went to a white actor in the end, with the exception of Boyd and, depending how you see him, Ballard. Specifying that you want an Asian actress, stressing that if none can be found, you don’t want to end up with a white girl, that is almost the only way to assure diversity in the cast.
    But of course it also means you have to be careful of the implications. I’m not American, so I’m not so fine-tuned to the social issues Whedon either chose to take on, or stumbled into accidently. I cannot really comment on it competently myself, but I fear that Dollhouse will be cancelled before the subplot can be solved in a way that doesn’t seem offensive. So much time is spent humanizing the abusers, which would be okay, but not if we end up with the victims one-dimensional and unrelatable…

    But I disagree about the morality of the Dollhouse… What they are doing is evil, and there’s no ifs and no buts. The Dolls have been forced or pressured into it, they’re prostituted and used in life-threatening missions all the time, and even if some of their missions serve to help people (and not just in the sense of fulfilling someone’s romantic or sexual fantasy), what is being done to the Dolls is still wrong.

  31. socgrad wrote:

    @ Thea Lim and Joseph:

    We should keep in mind here the distinction between the character and the actor who plays them. It seems that Thea and Joseph are arguing for Ballard’s being POC on the basis of the actor Penikett being POC. Hibbs4Prez is saying that the *character* Ballard is not a POC and he’s right.

    Ballard is not written in the show with any indication of his race or ethnicity and since the actor playing him looks white, Ballard, the character is taken for white (the default race in tv shows). Saying that Ballard (the character) is not a POC is not a remark or jugement on Penikett’s (the actor) race / ethnicity at all. Ballard and Penikett are not the same (even for the purposes of racial identity).

    That’s why your reference to Obama is a faulty analogy. Obama is not an actor playing a character on a tv show. So there is no distinction between the race / ethnicity of Obama the actor and some character he plays.

  32. Nick wrote:

    I have to say I’m really enjoying the show, mainly because it deals with issues regarding memory and personality and how the former can shape the latter (a personal interest of mine).

    The ethnic angle is not something I really considered before, so this thread is interesting to me in that regard.

  33. Joseph wrote:

    @Melinda C
    Interesting take. I am still thinking about this re: the sex trafficking/race dynamic. I think the potential problem is the tendency to want it both ways: to glamorize the objectification/commodification of human beings in the guise of commenting on it. I agree that the Dollhouse itself is ambiguous… Although I also agree with Sadface that it might be canceled before any of these complicated themes can be developed, which would leave a bad taste. This is a very geeky analogy but… remember the series they made out of La Femme Nikita? I thought that ambiguity was the thing that made that series interesting. (With the main difference being that Nikita was coerced into becoming an assassin/spy and not a “Doll”, but still…)

    @socgrad
    That wasn’t really my point.

  34. waxghost wrote:

    “Ballard is not written in the show with any indication of his race or ethnicity and since the actor playing him looks white, Ballard, the character is taken for white (the default race in tv shows).”

    I have to wonder what would satisfy the apparent requirement that there must be an indication of his race or ethnicity. I don’t mean this in a flippant or accusatory way but as far as I know, the only way to specifically code a person “Native American” on television is to work off of the stereotypes that we all cringe at.

    This is a reflection of real life, too, where my “white-looking” Native American friends talk about how annoying it is that they are not considered Native American because they don’t have dark skin and wear their hair in long braids. The only other way I’ve ever seen people coded as being Native American in the media is being very spiritual in an earthy kind of way, living on the reservation and/or having a really dysfunctional family life that often involves alcohol abuse. Yet my Native friends’ lives don’t have any of that, and in fact I often mistake them for being white until they mention their tribe or the fact that they are at least part Native. If we want realistic representations of POC on t.v., wouldn’t this qualify as just that?

  35. Nick wrote:

    bradski

    I actually find Topher one of the more curious characters in the show. He comes across as comic relief most of the time, but when you think about it, he’s actually one of the creepier characters. Basically amoral and disinterested in anything that doesn’t relate to his field of interest. I’ curious to see whether he “develops” into a more rounded individual or stays the two-dimensional geek.

    I will say, despite my earlier post about not really noticing the ethnic angle, that the treatment of the assistant Ivy does bug me. I realise that Topher’s treatment of her is supposed to illustrate his essential single-mindedness regarding his work (treating her as a glorified gopher) but the fact that she is also asian adds another element that makes me feel a little uncertain about the whole working relationship between them (geeky white guy and cute asian girl).

  36. socgrad wrote:

    @ Joseph:

    Ok, then I don’t really understand what is your point. Looking back over the previous exchanges with Hebbs4Prez, he was making a pretty clear distinction between the actor Penikett and the character Ballard in his remarks about race. Your comments seem to be focused on the actor Penikett’s race. In which case, you guys aren’t really disagreeing, you’re just talking past each other.

  37. socgrad wrote:

    @waxghost

    I’m certainly not advocating for a lazy reliance on stereotypes to telegraph a character’s race / ethnicity. In fact one of the things I like about how Whedon and co. are writing Boyd is the fact that they’re just letting the man be…they’re not directly adressing or commenting on his being black. That’s a “realistic representation of POC on tv”.

    With Ballard, they could simply slip in some dialogue where another character refers to him as a member of the First Nations, or a specific tribe, or have Ballard refer to himself at some point as a member of the First Nations and then leave it at that. Much in the same way as you said about your white looking native American friends.

    “Yet my Native friends’ lives don’t have any of that, and in fact I often mistake them for being white until they mention their tribe or the fact that they are at least part Native.”

    This would at least clue us in to the fact that the character Ballard is a member of the First Nations. Otherwise, there is no reason to think the character (not the actor) is anything but white.

  38. waxghost wrote:

    “I’m certainly not advocating for a lazy reliance on stereotypes to telegraph a character’s race / ethnicity.”

    That isn’t what I meant, and I’m genuinely sorry if it sounded like I was saying that was what you would want. I meant that that is how race/ethnicity is always dealt with in pop culture so that is the best that I think we can expect if we ask for a character’s reality as a POC to be acknowledged. I’ve never watched anything by Whedon before either, so I haven’t observed for myself how he deals with race/ethnicity; I’m going off of my experience with every other popular t.v. show instead.

    “This would at least clue us in to the fact that the character Ballard is a member of the First Nations. Otherwise, there is no reason to think the character (not the actor) is anything but white.”

    But that’s kind of my point. Those of us who are POC or (trying to be) sensitive to POC know that just because a person “looks white” doesn’t mean s/he IS white, just as I know my friends are not 100% white while other white people may assume that they are.

    And even injecting the mention of a person’s First Nations status can be problematic. How do you mention a thing like that, keep it within the storyline, and yet not make it a huge focus of the show as we both know pop culture loves to do with anything or anyone considered “out of the mainstream”? Does it even have any relevance to his role as an FBI agent? And in which episode(s) do you have to mention it in order to tell the audience that he isn’t white after all? These kinds of questions, and the pathetic way they are normally dealt with by mainstream media, make me really uncomfortable with the idea that he can’t just play a part with no mention of his race or ethnicity.

  39. waxghost wrote:

    Er, every other popular t.v. show THAT I’VE WATCHED. Obviously I haven’t watched every episode of every single one.

  40. socgrad wrote:

    @ waxghost

    Thank you. I understand what you’re saying about the pathetic way that mainstream tv handles race / ethnicity. It would be tricky to let the audience know that Ballard is a member of the First Nations without it turning into “the very special episode”. But it can be done and hopefully Whedon and co. have the chops to pull it off.

    But here’s the thing, maybe Ballard (the character) actually is *white*. Maybe, even though Penikett (the actor) is First Nations, Ballard isn’t and was never meant to be by the writers. This would explain why the show has yet to make any reference to Ballard’s race / ethnicity. It’s most likely that the writers consider Ballard to be white and are therefore writing him as a race neutral character.

    And yes, the writers are effectively writing all the characters without overt reference to their race and ethnicity. Only in the cases of Boyd and Sierra, we don’t need race markers or references, we can plainly see that they’re black and mixed race respectively.

  41. waxghost wrote:

    socgrad, the only thing that I can say is that I thoroughly agree. :)

  42. Dana Lawrence wrote:

    Not sure I agree with your characterization of Boyd. See, yes, he “saves” Sierra from her rapist handler, but only to allow her to go out and be raped as part of her dutiesas an active. How does that make him our conscience or anyone’s conscience? It simply makes him, really, just a pimp. I do not see him as a good person, lacking any backstroy that would explain his actions in a meaningful way.