What are kids entertainment execs doing for girls and racial diversity?

by Guest Contributor Rachell Arteaga, originally published at The Majority Post

A member of Women in Children’s Media, I recently had the privilege of attending this year’s 10th annual KidScreen Summit. With just over 1000 attendees and hundreds of speakers from across the country and all over the world, this truly was a Mecca for all those who are in the business of creating kid’s media. I, however, attended as an observer absorbing what I could from workshops that really delved into the inner workings of the content and production of children’s media. I arrived at this three-day extravaganza with one question – what is the kids’ media industry doing to serve girls and children of color?

I couldn’t help but feel frustrated by the answer. While programming aimed at children in preschool and ages 5-7 seem to do their part with shows like Dora the Explorer, Maya and Miguel and Little Bill, ‘tween audiences (ages 8-12) seem to be left in a vast cultural wasteland with a dearth of empowering female role models and an even greater absence of featured children of color. This hole in representation is glaringly more apparent in animation. Dr. Maya Götz, head of the International Central Institute for Youth and Educational Television (IZI), conducted a study which surveyed television shows throughout the globe. In it, IZI found that “Only 32% of all main characters in children’s television are female. The ratio of male to female characters in animation programmes, especially if the main character is an animal, monster, etc., is as disparate as 87% male to 13% female.” The same study found that “72% of all main characters in children’s television [around the world] are Caucasian.”

I willingly admit that this experience has done a lot to invoke my own childhood interactions with media. I am a Latina that grew up in a single parent home, living in a small, broken apartment. I heavily consumed media as a child, perhaps for escapist reasons, but know that this experience exacerbated my frustrations. All I saw staring back at me were male rabbits, white super heroes, or helpless white princesses. Whether live action or animated, I almost never saw anyone who looked like me entertaining or teaching me in my ‘tweens. As an adult I feel a similar frustration on the behalf of children when I see, twenty years later, virtually the same perpetual television culture. While there has been a noticeable increase of female leads, there needs to be a shift in the way we see diversity – beyond just black and white and beyond families that are strictly heterosexual.

A major cause of these television inadequacies can be attributed to the lack of diversity that plagues the community in charge of buying and producing content. I was pleasantly surprised (though not fully, given that it is supposedly more “acceptable” for women to work in anything child related) to see that there was a very healthy mix of both women and men execs who are at the upper rungs of production and children’s media business at the Summit. However, I was extremely disappointed to see that there were very, very few executives of color. Meaningfully diverse content that is more reflective of the children in our country and around the world cannot be created without these media generators being more culturally and racially inclusive. Kids of color need to see more of themselves in leading roles. The “token black kid” is no longer sufficient.

Money cannot be ignored as a driving force in this seemingly homogenous programming. I can’t help but think that it could be due to the increasing spending power of the ‘tween market. It seems that as kids get older, programming becomes more and more targeted at those perceived to have more disposable income (i.e, white, middle class and upwards). However, the industry, on a whole, seems to miss the golden opportunity to marry empowerment and more inclusive representation with successful, money-making programming.

These opportunities are not always lost by all – True Jackson, VP, currently on Nickelodeon, is an example of successful, mainstream ‘tween (and teen) programming that features children from diverse backgrounds (going beyond mere tokenism and the typical black-white model of “diversity”). And while it does not address all racial and cultural deficiencies, such shows can begin to serve as golden model for other kids’ content producers to build on. Not surprisingly, it is much harder to find such examples within animation. While money will always be a driving force in selecting “the next big thing” there is no reason why content producers can’t acknowledge the increasingly heterogeneous population that the United States is and becomes every day.

On the third day of the almighty KidScreen Summit I left with much ambivalence. Feelings of awe at the power of creativity and technology intermingled with the dissatisfaction of the sad, simple answer to my question – Not very much.

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  1. Brandon wrote:

    And have you seen what might be happening to Dora? It’s not good… it looks like Nickelodeon is sexualizing her image. If you want Dora left alone, sign this petition:

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Dora_Makeover/

    But… Disney has a black princess in the upcoming The Princess and the Frog. This could be seen as a positive, but with race and gender, it seems that everything Disney touches turns to turd. We’ll see…

  2. politicallyincorrect wrote:

    Turn off the TV, books are very diverse.

  3. bradski wrote:

    Interesting enough, “That’s So Raven” and “Sister Sister” were two of Disney’s most popular TV shows. Having watched several episodes of “That’s So Raven,” I can say that Raven-Symone could be the next Lucille Ball.

  4. Lisa J wrote:

    @politically incorrect, I hate to break it to you, but tv is here to stay, it isn’t going away and if you think most Americans (or most people in industrialized countries) , let alone American kids are going to forgo tv entirely for books, you will be waiting for a long, long time. I like to read and I like to watch tv and know plenty of people who like both, they are not mutually exclusive. Also, the diversity in books (depending on what kind you read) is great but tv and movies still need to be more diverse because most people are going to watch tv and go to movies more than they read (sad but true)and both mediums have much more sway over the collective conscious and imagination, or lack thereof, of the majority of Americans. So seeing more people of color and with different sexual orientations, especially for youngsters still in their formative years, will do a lot to help diversity seem more natural in people’s everyday lives.

  5. Rchoudh wrote:

    THANK YOU for this very informative post. As a mother of a six year old, I always had a feeling that majority of cartoons (with the exception of Nick Jr.) were predominantly composed of white characters but I wasn’t sure. This unsurety was based on the fact that I don’t watch too many cartoons, just the ones my duaghter enjoys. Thank you again for providing some facts to back up what I always felt to be the case.

    One question though about the worldwide survey conducted by IZI. How did they cateogorize anime? Did they consider it to be composed of white or Asian characters. There’s always an ongoing debate about that issue and as far as I know no one’s come to a decisive conclusion over whether anime characters can be counted as being white or Asian.

  6. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    @Rchoudh –

    There’s always an ongoing debate about that issue and as far as I know no one’s come to a decisive conclusion over whether anime characters can be counted as being white or Asian.

    OMG I am going to write that post if it kills me. The people drawn in anime are not white people! You’ll know when white people show up because they are generally racially marked and marked in the text.

    When my scanner and I are reconnected, I’m going to whip out the visual aides…

  7. Elton wrote:

    The rare times I had a chance to watch the Disney Channel when I was a kid, I felt vaguely bad about how everyone was white and preppy. It was as if all the working class kids and kids of color had been eliminated from the school, just as the preps always wanted.

  8. Notebook wrote:

    Has anyone ever seen Ghostwriter? It was an live action PBS show that was shown in the 1990s.

    Not only did it have an extremely diverse cast, but the characters themselves were actually developed and the writing was pretty good. Even though the production values were a bit low [it was a PBS show after all], that didn’t stop it from being good and there were many edge-of-your-seat moments for a kids show. While it was far from perfect, it was certainly a breath of fresh air. I think it got canceled around 1995 though.

    They did remake it later on in 1998 but it was extremely inferior to the original series [one of the bigger issues I had with it was that they totally removed the mystery arc set up they had in the original series and opted to put in an episodic format instead]. It’s sort of sad that PBS lost the rights to the show and that there aren’t any DVDs available to the public.

    As for cartoons, Static Shock could’ve been a decent cartoon about a black teenage superhero if it just stuck to original storylines instead of having crossovers or guest stars every other episode. All of the original characters had so much potential and yet it was mostly floundered due to bad writing. Admittedly, it was nice to see him in JLU as an old man, and it would’ve been better to see him on the Teen Titans. Yeah, I know that one line was probably just a throwaway line, but still.

  9. johnjihoonchang wrote:

    Maybe it’s just because I work on a ‘tween-centric TV show, but this article doesn’t ring true at least with the cable channel I work for. While I do lament the lack of presence of PoC characters to some extent, the big three tween shows on our network have female leading stars and predominantly female fan bases.

    As for animation, I agree that the characters definitely skew male, but I can see why this happens as well (not to excuse it, mind you): the audience for animation once you reach a tween demographic also tends to skew male. That’s not to say that girls don’t watch animation, but the research suggests that more boys watch animation than girls as they get older (tween) and I think, to some extent, the producers/studios are trying to make shows that appease the greater portion of the audience. (You know, for more ad dollars for providing a more focused audience, in this instance boy-directed toys.)

    Either way, I still think children’s entertainment shows a far greater amount of diversity than prime-time network (and even cable) shows do. I just hope it keeps improving instead of getting worse and eventually spreads into prime-time as this currently young audience grows older.

  10. sasha wrote:

    I’m not sure about how people are going to feel about this but this small article talks about Nickelodeon naming Nick Cannon honorary chairman and giving him the power to create, direct and produce original programming for their new channel TeeNick( formerly The N). I think this might be a good thing; hopefully he will create good programming with diverse characters.

    http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-03-12-cannon-execustar_N.htm?csp=34

  11. aimerrouge wrote:

    Is Dora being “sexualized ” or are the creators aging her character? I’d like some more information because the idea that a girl getting older is “sexual” (i.e. dirty, inappropriate, etc.) is wrong to me.

  12. aa wrote:

    notebook:

    ghostwriter was amazing!! maybe it’s the nostalgia talking, but no one really makes shows like that anymore.

  13. Ruchama wrote:

    The Disney Channel seems to have a lot of Latino characters lately — the kids on Wizards of Waverly Place have a white father and a latina mother, and I’m pretty sure that a few of Hannah Montana’s friends are latino, too.

  14. Titanis walleri wrote:

    “You’ll know when white people show up because they are generally racially marked and marked in the text.”
    They’re not usually racially marked, iirc, though often culturally so.

  15. Brandon wrote:

    @aimerrouge:

    Unfortunately, I do think that the ways marketers make girls “older” is the same thing as sexualization. Perhaps by aging Dora they could just be mimicking societal trends, but those trends are towards sexualization. The emphasis becomes looks and attracting guys, even when it’s at an age before girls are interested in these things. But it’s creating a market, and a market that will spend much money as they age.

    Seven year old girls don’t need to be wearing lip gloss and miniskirts and shirts that say “HOT STUFF” or “FLIRT”. Some may call it aging… I call it sexualization.

    Now, in fall fairness, I haven’t seen the Dora makeover… but I’m worried. When I think if any “growing up” or “makeovers” in marketing… it always translates to sexualization.

    We’ll see.

    In the meantime, think about this quote from Gina Sirard, vp of marketing for Mattel:

    “Girls really identify with Dora and we knew that girls would love to have their friend Dora grow up with them, and experience the new things that they were going through themselves. The brand captures girls’ existing love of Dora and marries it with the fashion doll play and online experiences older girls enjoy.”

    Fashion doll play? I don’t like where this going…

  16. Lisa J wrote:

    I remember Ghost Writer. It was fun. I saw it in the 80’s though. How in the world could they re-do it without the mystery? That would take all the fun out.

    There are a few shows on the N (yes I’m grown have no kids and watch the N) like DeGrassi, South of Nowhere, and some other show I’m blanking on the name of that is about a college girl who is an orphan and is on a scholarship and each of those has a nice mix of characters of various races who, except for the last one, are really an ensemble cast so they all get there moments in the sun.

  17. Brandon wrote:

    Here’s another thing to think about: having female and POC characters is easier on television, because the studios and networks don’t have to invest so much in one show. They can afford to have a niche market.

    But not with the movies. Movies go for the big money, and universal appeal.

    And it is in the movies where diversity is dead. The big animated films of recent years are almost all male.

    Look at any of the computer animated films (a la Pixar). I challenge anyone to come up with one main character who is female. Good luck… these are ALL stories about boys and men on journeys.

    Now take any one of those films and count the significant male characters and significant female characters. It will be completely out of balance.

    And think about how silly that is. Even when the gender of the characters shouldn’t matter at all… they still load up on male characters. Examples: monsters in Monsters Inc., fish in Finding Nemo, cars in Cars.

    The movies are a male-dominated world… and job well done to whoever commented on how animated television programming looks good when compared to regular prime time television. The gender bias exists on all levels.

    One more fun fact: Of the top ten grossing films of 2008, only Twilight had a female lead.

  18. Rchoudh wrote:

    @ LP

    I eagerly look forward to your post on anime characters and ethnicity. As for what I earlier stated regarding anime, I’m still trying to find out how the study labelled the characters’ ethnicity as if they included anime characters in their study. However way they label it will significantly affect the outcome of their study.

    As for kids’ shows from the past, does anyone remember The Magic School Bus? I really like that series since its both educational and diverse in its cast of characters. I’ve bought all the DVDs available for it and my kids (and husband) love it. I wish there were more shows like that being made today for kids of all ages (the scientific concepts they focused on were understandable to kids of any age). It seems today that all the educational shows only last until the child turns 7. After that it’s all action, violence, romance and potty humor. And the pre-k shows do happen to be the only ones with diverse cast of characters (Dora, Little Bill, Ni hao Kai Lan, etc.) But what I’m disappointed about is how the shows with POC main characters have to serve as representatives of their culture as in real life. Magic School Bus was refreshingly different in that sense in that the kids both POC and white were just treated as kids who were interested in science. No need for anyone to behave stereotypically and/or “teach” mainstream audiences what their cultures are.

  19. JC wrote:

    @ Latoya – I think races in anime/manga are sometimes murky… main characters tend have that bishounen/bishoujou “look”, while supporting charas are often given racial/stereotypical markers. Example – does Setsuna F. Seiei of Gundam 00 look “Kurdish”? What makes Patty Martin “white” aside from hair/eye color, which is pretty meaningless. Enough Otaku talk.

    On the subject – I hate any and all Tween programming. It’s all white supremacist propaganda, making minority kids just starting to discover themselves think less of themselves. I know that my nothing that Asians and therefore myself are the “others” are forged during that time. For the longest time I secreted wanted to leave the Asian-ness behind and become white – something childhood friend (another Asian) actually tried to do by totally renouncing his Asian background and adopted, out of all thing, a Boston Southie alter-ego. Would not shut up about Redsox and Aerosmith, even though he went to school in Southern Cal and never been to the NE. My self-hate and his “transformation” all came during the time when we between 8 to 11. Looks like things hasn’t gotten much better since.

    All I can say is that Anime is good for the Asian kids but I’m not sure about other ethnicities. I know several kids who’s self-identity and self-worth were restored by newly found interest in anime and pop culture of Japan/Korea/Taiwan. Kids saw that Asians can be hot, cool, beautiful, popular, and anything else they want to be. This we’re not getting on American TV – instead we have Hanna Montana think Asians are funny. I shutter at the thought of Asian tweens growing up in a pop culture dominated by Britney Spears and Jonas Brothers. Let’s just wish Utada and BoA makes it to give them more options. Or perhaps, they already figure this out and have started enjoyed all kinds of Asian entertainment on Youtube and Crunchyroll. Kids are so lucky today… with a few keystrokes they can watch the latest MV from Thelma Aoyama.

  20. Sobia wrote:

    @ Brandon:

    Re: Strawberry Shortcake – I loved SS when I was a kid. And when I was a kid she was a kid too! But today, despite having not aged (as far as I can tell) she’s much more woman-like – long flowing hair and appearing flirtatious. I was so disgusted when I saw the new version of SS. She no longer looks like a little girl but rather a little woman. And I don’t think the plan was to have her age with those girls who grew up with her because by now she would be in her late 20’s/early 30’s. I would worry about the same thing with Dora. Why does she have to age with those girls who watch her? They’ll grow out of her but other girls will be coming along to adore her.

    There’s a way to have such characters grow up so that they can be healthy examples for young girls, but the way that manufacturers/producers do it usually seems quite unhealthy. Who knows how this will go?

  21. Notebook wrote:

    @ Lisa J

    That was one of the reasons why the later Ghostwriter series [which was on CBS] really wasn’t that good–it had traded off the multiple episode mystery arcs for an episodic format. The original series also had plenty of foreshadowing as well on future mystery arcs, like a minor character in a previous arc would become a major one in the next one. It’s sad that it didn’t get a proper finale and ended on a rather lackluster note with that purple goo monster story, which wasn’t even a proper mystery.

    At the very least, if it were remade today, it wouldn’t be episodic since it seems like bigwigs have finally realized that kid’s shows with seasonal arcs aren’t as bad as they thought. Though I doubt they’d keep in the same mystery arc format or the quality of writing.

    Another show I was reminded of was Ned’s Declassified School Survival Guide. Though the lead was a white male, the side characters were rather diverse and the show in general felt like a parody of school clique stereotypes than anything.

    Y’know what probably wasn’t a good example of making a decent cartoon with a diverse cast? Captain Planet. While it did seem like it tried at some points, I don’t know. I’m sure they could’ve been a little more specific on the homes of the “Five Chosen Young People” besides the continents they live on.

  22. NancyP wrote:

    Tween-oriented commercial TV always will suck, because the tweens are entering their disposable-income consumer years. The tweens and teens are the years that the advertisers want to capture, because the conventional wisdom is that brand loyalty habits can be created during these years. Advertisers have a vested interest in maintaining gender stereotypes, because those stereotypes support a wider range of products than the androgynous model. Shows will be white-centric as long as the number of white consumers in the desired socioeconomic and age brackets are greater than the number of minority consumers in same socioeconomic and age brackets.

    Politically Incorrect has an excellent point – “non-standard” kids need to reduce their consumption of mainstream TV and substitute books and whatever specialty media are available. Frankly, I ignored tween/teen oriented TV, movies, and pop music because I wasn’t (and still am not) a girlie-girl. At least in books, I could choose to change the male protagonist into a non-traditional female protagonist.

  23. nerdiah (from Oz) wrote:

    Ditto that politicallyincorrect. And Nancy P hits it right on the head.

    Corporate media is motivated by profits. If that means shallow, sensationalist news and violent, fast-edited cartoons, then that’s what you’ll get. There’s a good reason why most characters are whites: they have the buying-power. You’ll get a token minority or girl, but it’s a small, niche market. And she’ll have to be mainstream-beautiful, fashionable and thin, or else where’s the feeling of inadequacy that’ll motivate you all to spend?

    Although hilariously enough, these bones that they throw you do inspire a lot of gratitude and loyalty, don’t they? Despite the fact that it’s still the same crap, just with a black or hispanic face.

    Lisa J is right that TV is here to stay, but that’s your choice. If you put a small animated billboard in your living room, what do you expect will happen?

    It’s stupid to petition corporations to up the standard. They’ll only respond if they know that there’s money to be made from it, and what they produce will still be substandard and full of commercial compromise. It’s the wrong way around. The money will never be in quality, educational work with diverse normal characters until society at-large changes. I just can’t see it happening from a profit-driven model. Maybe you all need to invest in your public broadcasting again?

  24. somedude wrote:

    Well, over here in the UK there are a couple of shows for kids I can think with a diverse cast of, mostly from CBBC though. There’s the Sarah Jane Adventures (a reporter in her 40’s defeating aliens with the help of her neighbours – black, desi and white) , The Story of Tracy Beaker (children in a care home, so lots of kids in the cast come and go,) Young Dracula (only the Van Helsings, a bi-racial family, hunting vampires)

  25. little mixed girl wrote:

    “One question though about the worldwide survey conducted by IZI. How did they cateogorize anime? Did they consider it to be composed of white or Asian characters. There’s always an ongoing debate about that issue and as far as I know no one’s come to a decisive conclusion over whether anime characters can be counted as being white or Asian.”

    RAWR! i hate when people say that.
    you can always tell the white people in anime. and it seems like people are saying it’s OK for american cartoons to have characters with different colored hair, but japanese ones must have black hair and “small” eyes.

    as to the main post.
    i do think that there should be more shows that feature people of color.
    but at the same time, when i was a kid, i was keenly aware of the black or asian kids placed in an all-white show for diversity.
    i just kind of wish there were a way to have people of color appear and not make it feel unnatural…

  26. Vince wrote:

    I’m with PoliticallyIncorrect on this issue. TV is overrated.

  27. CVT wrote:

    @ Politicallyincorrect-

    I have a feeling that, if you broke it down by percentages, books wouldn’t be much better, overall. There just happen to be so many more of them, and we have a lot more say over what we take in (over television). Although, really – if you look at what gets the heaviest advertising, the best placement on the shelves, etc.

    Not that different.

  28. anna wrote:

    @johnjihoonchang — if in the past, the dollars and advertising is targeted mainly to boys, then girls won’t end up watching it — but then to say that, because girls aren’t watching it, then in the future, money/advertising/stories will be targeted to boys…well, this just sets up a self-fulfilling and circular endpoint.

    If the industry wants to target a demographic, they’ll have to do it actively, and make the kinds of stories and characters that appeal to girls. Then the viewing audience will increase. But to say that girls aren’t included, and aren’t watching, so let’s continue to not include them, doesn’t address that the reason why girls don’t participate isn’t because of their inherent girlness, but because there are less spaces for them to be included.

    Also, there’s the idea that boy stories are universal and should appeal to girls, but girl stories/characters have a limited appeal, and that boys won’t be interested. This isn’t fair, and it goes beyond what is seen on screen: JK Rowling was asked to go by her initials, and not “Joanne” because the publishers figured boys wouldn’t want to read the stories if they knew it was written by a woman (even though the protagonist is male.)

    There’s an underlying sexism involved that values one kind of story and viewpoint, and this sexism is powered into the mechanisms that make stories accessible for consumption. When what women do and are is considered as valuable as what men do and are, and when the media reinforces that by the stories that get told, then I’d expect participation (by gender) to be more balanced.

    (I realize there’s no monolithic “what girls/boys do” but there’s still the idea that “girl stuff” isn’t as important or interesting as “boy stuff”.

  29. Reiter wrote:

    Throw in American made but anime-inspired shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender and you get a whole other can of worms; like with what Hollywood and M. Night Shymalan are doing with the movie by whitewashing the main cast playing the supposedly Asian characters. On that note to stay on topic, I think it was one of the few kids’ shows where it appealed to both boys and girls, even if the main character was male. It still featured very interesting and strong female characters.

  30. c.n. edaw wrote:

    I would strongly agree that much of tween programming does seem to be constructed to reinforce images of white supremacy. Specifically, for young girls, there is definitely a large degree of upholding the white beauty standard and placing of white women on pedestals.

    When I was in that age group I loved “Saved By The Bell” and even at that age it was not lost on me that as gorgeous as Lark Voorhies is, her character Lisa ,was basically secondary and inferior to both white female characters.

    She was basically asexual, with nerdy Screech being the only boy other than a boy too young for her (see a trend here?) who were interested in dating her at a California high school.

    The black girls in most of these shows with the exception of Raven Symone’s show always seem to be token afterthoughts and we are always supposed to just inherently know that no matter how gorgeous or talented they might be they are NOT the focus or to be associated with the feminine ideal in any way. That REALLY bugs me.

  31. Rchoudh wrote:

    Speaking of Saved By The Bell (glad you brought it up c.n. edaw) I remember reading that Zack and Lisa did get intimate in one episode where they actually ended up kissing. But the network, fearful of parents not allowing their kids to watch an “interracial” relationship, scrapped the idea of Zack and Lisa as a couple, so that you wound up seeing future episodes of them pretending that kiss never happened.

    Another show with a token black female character was in Boy Meets World. Even though they did show an interracial relationship on that show, it was obvious they only meant to have only one black character (they even had the black female character joke once that she needed to make more black friends).

  32. Persia wrote:

    Diversity is really good at the preschool level, sort of okay at the kid level, not great at the tween level and then nonexistent at the teen level. It’s tremendously depressing, and I think the teen market would watch more diverse material if it were offered. High School Musical is a juggernaut, and their cast is one of the more diverse ones in the ‘tween’ market.

    I didn’t see the new Strawberry Shortcake as ’sexualized’ or ‘grown-up’ as much as ’slimmer.’ When you’ve got a whole toy line named after desserts, I imagine the obesity epidemic affects your marketing somewhat.

  33. elle wrote:

    I also agree with politically incorrect. try to get kids to like reading at a young age and reduce their need to watch tv. Not only will kids that read more than watch tv are more creative and not as obsessed with consumption culture, but it causes kids to go out more and be more healthy and in shape. Our nations literacy rate is too low, did you know as many as 10% of adults are illiterate?
    Also alot of people on here have mentioned ghost writer, I remember some of that show, does anyon remember all that? All That was a variety show on nick in the 90s aimed at the 9-14, and it was very diverse, having two black male characters(Keenan Thompson before Saturday Night Live, and Kel Mitchell, both of whom would eventually get their own show, Keenan and Kel) one black female, one latina,three white females, one of whom was the great Lori Beth,who was one of the funniest,and one or two white males. Every show they would have a musical performance featuring the latest hip-hop and r&b, and the intro to the show was did by TLC, I think. It was great,me and my brother and my friends would watch each all the time, that was, of course,until the around 99 or 2000, when the format was changed to make it more “mainstream”(white and preppy), and most of the cast was eliminated and made whiter. Plus, the sketches were dumbed down and made less creative,less edgy, and it wasn’t that funny. I thought it would be cancelled, but would you know it, it lasted another seven years and actually got higher ratings than it did in the nineties, no doubt do to all the white kids who were scared away from All That during the nineties, flocking to it know that it was in,which makes me angry.

  34. c.n. edaw wrote:

    @ Persia That’s an interesting take because I never thought of the old Strawberry Shortcake as fat.

    She kind of overdid it on the layers, as she did wear bloomers, an apron over her dress and had a big floppy hat– but I never associated her with being overweight. Still I think she now looks a little “tarty” — a red haired Britney Spears.

    About “High School Musical” are the black characters well developed? I admit to still watching some kids programming despite being childless and 30, but I just can’t get into that one.

    Again I see sort of caste system in tween programming emerging . I feel like the trend seems to be that the Latinas (whose beauty can be appreciated as being closer to the white beauty standard a la the “brunette vixen”) and black males (or biracial as the case may be) when attractive or funny tend to get equal treatment to the white male or female leades. But males or females of any other race are largely absent.

    Black girls, while present, seemingly are there only to to prop up, but not distract from the usually white female leads. Uh kind of like what happens in the film industry to all but a handful of black actresses.

    One last thing, this convo reminds me of one I had with several white female friends about Barbie versus Bratz.
    I said I personally found it hard to see the difference between the “sexiness” of the two dolls, perhaps Brats are more modern…but Barbie isn’t exactly classy all the way.

    I felt a lot of the negativity directed toward the popularity of Bratz was that they undermined the “ideal” white homogenized beauty standard. They are rather racially ambigious. While I find black or Hispanic women may hate the way Bratz dolls are dressed they have less of a problem with the dolls looks…while white women seem to have a huge problem with their looks and the idea that look is appealing to so many people OVER blond haired, blue-eyed mega busted Barbie .

  35. Tracey wrote:

    Ghost writer was great and I also enjoyed a show called Zoom on PBS which was about encouraging kids/tweens to perform science experiments and get active.
    http://pbskids.org/zoom/show/snaps/pic07-04.html
    It always seemed to keep a pretty diverse cast. I watched mostly in the 90’s and while I didn’t like the cast changes they made over time as much as the ones I started watching, it nice seeing that picture (with those from the 70s) to recognize they seemed to always have a diverse cast.
    Yeah, this issue is one that defiantly bothers me. It also irks me when the WOC characters seem to be caricatures, like the black girl on American Dragon seems to have that sassy, neck popping thing going on a lot. Not to mention the whole issue of marketing an idealized image to tweens with hopes they’ll imitate it. Grrrrrr.
    I also love the Proud family, though I think there can be something to be said of their depiction of Lacinaga’s famil, the Trang triplets, and the Pakistani family Penny lives with for a week and that whole episode in general.
    @ elle: Glad you mentioned All That. That was a good show. I also like that Lori Beth wasn’t a size eight or below.

  36. DivergentDana wrote:

    “Not only will kids that read more than watch tv are more creative and not as obsessed with consumption culture, but it causes kids to go out more and be more healthy and in shape.”

    Is there any substantiation for this claim?

  37. thenderson wrote:

    Does anyone remember the show Gullah Gullah Island? That was a very good kids show with a diverse cast

  38. Persia wrote:

    Gullah Gullah Island is on overnights on Noggin– Nick’s ‘preschool only’ channel– and my daughter still will Tivo and watch it sometimes.

    That’s an interesting take because I never thought of the old Strawberry Shortcake as fat.
    I never thought of her as fat either, but she was much rounder than her current incarnation– had a little bit of a belly (I had a couple of the dolls), where I suspect this one doesn’t. (We could talk about trading one negative body image for another, but then we’d be here all day!)

    I’ve never watched the HSM movies either; I have a niece who loves them so I’ve seen a lot of the merchandise. I have watched The Suite Life of Zack and Cody more than I’ve cared to, and I’ve always though Brenda Song’s character there was excellent– and I love her as an actress, she’s enormously funny.

    I felt a lot of the negativity directed toward the popularity of Bratz was that they undermined the “ideal” white homogenized beauty standard. They are rather racially ambigious.

    Me too– the Bratz were ethnic and urban, and their eye makeup was tackier…that was about all I could tell (and certainly no tackier than what my Barbie and the Rockers dolls wore back in the day).

  39. Terrie wrote:

    Count me as another one who misses the original Ghostwriter series.

    The more recent one I remember is Disney’s Fillmore! which parodied all the old police shows. It had its problems — the title character was black, but also a reformed delinquent, and the hispanic characters tended to all have accents — but it was very diverse and even had an episode where a “private security force” included “the school’s best roller bladers, unicyclists and wheelchair basketball players.”

  40. c.n. edaw wrote:

    Awww the “Proud Family”…glad someone mentioned them. I think they represent middle class values —kind of like a cartoon Huxtables ; but I also think they come terribly close to reinforcing some intra-racial stereotypes as well as stereotypes of other ethnic groups.

    I mean if the Proud’s were white and their POC neighbors were depicted as such I think people would be a bit outraged.

    Also, it has never been lost on my little nieces that the lighter skinned females (Penny, Lacieniga, many of the guest starring female characters) are definitely held up over the DARKER, LOUDER Dijonay and the DARK ASHY hoodlum sisters whose names I forget. It’s funny in a relatable way, but I definitely see some reinforcing of classism/colorism within ethnic communities.

    I went through a period of liking Degrassi High, but as I recall they only had biracial people playing the role of the “black characters’, which would have been great if I were biracial— but as it coincided with that resurgence in media in the 90’s ,where it seemed ALL black roles were never played by someone with dark brown skin and two black parents. Particularly those of the attractive smart girl.

    When even a medium brown girl with long wavy hair like myself couldn’t find someone relatable in television, magazines, videos ,etc because they were all tan or lighter with European features, yet were representing black— I can only imagine how dark brown little black girls must have felt.

    Am I the only one who remembers wanting to copy make-up or hairstyles in Seventeen only to find the black model used as our example, was several shades lighter and had straight or fine curly hair?

    I know I seem stuck on this point, but I truly believe the diminishing and degradation of black women begins in media imagery commonly targeted at pre-teens–just as you are grappling with your self esteem.

  41. Aris wrote:

    “Also, it has never been lost on my little nieces that the lighter skinned females (Penny, Lacieniga, many of the guest starring female characters) are definitely held up over the DARKER, LOUDER Dijonay and the DARK ASHY hoodlum sisters whose names I forget. It’s funny in a relatable way, but I definitely see some reinforcing of classism/colorism within ethnic communities. ”

    -Oh my gosh, I love that show too, but I thought I was the only one who noticed that colorism. The light girls are smart and pretty, the dark girls are loud, with crazy, severely-clashing bright blond hair and beer bellies (I see you, Dijonay…. =/)

  42. Rachell Arteaga wrote:

    @Rchoudh. Unfortunately, the IZI study did not clarify how they classified anime characters. It is a very valid point though I think it’s safe to say, that the white characters would still outnumber the PoC characters.

    @Ruchama. While it’s great that Latin@s are gaining more visibility they still seem to bel cast in supporting roles.

    @Brandon. Could not agree more! Film is grossly deficient of diversity, with the exception of the recent animated movie Coraline. Even then, however, all characters are white.

    @anna. DITTO!!

    @elle. i LOVED “All That.” That’s one great example of tween programming that was successful even before it was made more “mainstream.” These are the kind of shows kids should watch — they don’t even have to be educational all the time. It’s fine to use TV for escapist reasons ONCE IN A WHILE. It was entertaining, funny, and spoke to kids without talking down to them. Diversity was the norm, not the exception. Another great example was “Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?” Although geared towards a younger audience, it was still the ‘tween market. Loved this show — made me want to travel and it featured a black female cheif, a poweful female crime boss (Latina, perhaps?) and all different kinds of kids. Would love to see something like this back on the air!

  43. Tanvi wrote:

    South Asians are virtually non-existent in the U.S. media, let alone children’s media. I can go many months and not see a single person that looks like me on the T.V.

    ” Based on the count of the 2000 Census, there are 1.7 million people in the US who identify themselves as Asian Indians or Indian Americans — first- and second-generation immigrants or those whose ancestors migrated to the US from India.”

  44. RK wrote:

    Yup, Tanvi, off the top of my head, these are the South Asians consistently (or semi-consistently) in front of the camera or on the radio in the US. Only a couple of them have any sort of leading role in major films or TV shows, and the ones that do are normally part of an ensemble cast.

    Kal Penn
    Parminder Nagra
    M.I.A.
    Padma Lakshmi
    Sendhil Ramamurthy
    Mindy Kaling
    Naveen Andrews
    Kunal Nayyar (Big Bang Theory)
    Maulik Pancholy (Weeds, 30 Rock)
    Navi Rawat (The OC, Numb3rs)
    Anoop Desai (American Idol)
    Norah Jones
    Dev Patel
    Frieda Pinto
    Aasif Mandvi
    Sanjay Gupta
    Russell Peters
    Sanjaya Malakar
    Rekha Sharma (BSG)
    Sunkrish Bala (Notes from the Underbelly)
    Shibani Joshi (Fox anchor)
    Raymond Ablack (Degrassi)
    Melinda Shankar (Degrassi)

    (Okay, I had to dig deep for the last few names on this list. )

    I confess that I watch some shows just because I know they have South Asian actors as supporting or recurring characters.

  45. Tru-Dru wrote:

    Raven is A Very Beautiful, and Positive Role Model for young American Girls if we support her then she can help paved the way for the Sisters of the Future.

  46. shawn can wrote:

    http://www.tv-eh.com/2008/09/24/how-to-be-indie-in-production/comment-page-1/

    its a show about a south asian family airing in fall the lead actress is a beautiful star on degrassi the next generation. it will be her second lead on a tv show HOORAH for coloured kids with their own teen sitcom!!!

  47. Angela wrote:

    Rchoudh
    Shawn’s girlfriend Angela wasn’t the only black person on the show. You’re forgetting the Black teacher Mr. Williams, who was Mr. Turner’s close friend.

    The joke about needing more black friends was a quip about Cory, Shawn and Topanga not getting what she meant when she said her middle name is ‘Shinaynay’. Other than that instance, race wasn’t never mentioned. There was never a PSA or ’special episode’ regarding the two of them dating, which was refreshing.