We’re So Post-Racial [Presidential Racism Watch]
by Latoya Peterson and Carmen Van Kerckhove
Welcome to “We’re So Post Racial,” a reoccurring feature that looks at racism aimed toward The White House.
In today’s edition, we have a double. The first, following on the heels of the NY Post controversy is a creatively rearranged storefront:
According to the Defenders Online:
Yes the photo is authentic. And yes the incident did happen at the Coral Gables, Florida store. But it turns out that it was a cruel joke by a customer and not a decision made by the store.
“This was not a company driven decision,” Edgar Chang, the store manager, said in an interview with TheDefendersOnline. “We are not sure how the book got in the window, but we believe it was put there by a customer who didn’t like the fact that Obama won the election.”
The store is located in the Miracle Mile Mall on a busy stretch of highway. The display windows face that highway. While customers walking in or by can clearly see titles in the window, somehow the store’s manager and employees did not notice the monkey book for three or four days.
Our second entry, which was predictable considering the ribs and watermelon newsletter, is a picture of what? Watermelons at the White House:
Renee at Womanist Musings notes:
Of course Grose didn’t intend to offend. How was he to know that putting watermelons on the White House lawn could possible be offensive to blacks? That poor, poor man. In his emailed apology according to Mecury News he pleaded ignorance of the racialized nature of his offence.
“Bottom line is, we laugh at things and I didn’t see this in the same light that she did,” Grose told the AP. “I’m sorry. It wasn’t sent to offend her personally—or anyone—from the standpoint of the African-American race.”
I suppose we are to believe that it was just accidental that he chose watermelons instead of say pumpkins on the lawn. It just happened to coincide with the election of the first black president. Anyone have swampland for sale because this man is clearly pitching bullshit? If he didn’t know of the racist connection of African Americans and watermelons why did he choose to create this e-mail in the first place?
Carmen Van Kerckhove is co-founder and president of
Ugly Deaf Muslim Punk Gurl! wrote:
Ha. Oh, the irony. All these years, we were called “TRAITORS” by RepubliKKKans for speaking out against Bush, now these same idiots are insulting Obama, comparing him to a monkey. Our own president, compared to a zoo animal!
Who’s the fucking traitor now, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES?!?!?!
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:08 pm ¶
Phil wrote:
Wow. Looks like I’ve got a new hobby, lol. This will never end.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:11 pm ¶
Jalanda wrote:
I call the back tracking, excuse making phenomenon “Bewildered by Interpretation”
It’s as if they say something, and don’t expect the meaning to be offensive. (When they know that it is “funny to the exclusive” to laugh at the “other-ness”) Yeah.
http://tinyurl.com/bvg5dm
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:13 pm ¶
Monie wrote:
Honestly I really don’t care about this kind of stuff, it’s oh so last century.
The kind of racism I worry about is the covert backlash regarding Obama’s election. How many Black people have not been offered jobs because a White HR person decided not offering jobs to Black people was a good way to get revenge for the election of Obama?
How many racist cops are giving Black people (extra) grief because they’re upset about the election of Obama?
And so on.
That’s the stuff I care about.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:16 pm ¶
sejw wrote:
Sigh. Although I am irritated and annoyed and fed up with this, I am not surprised. As we’ve seen in these examples, as well as with what various right-wingers have been throwing around lately, this kind of crap will continue.
Obama’s election and inauguration were only the beginning. The ignorant trolls and the racist haters will come even more furiously now that he’s POTUS.
*going back to fight the good fight*
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:16 pm ¶
PPR_Scribe wrote:
I think it is worth deconstructing the phrase “racism aimed toward The White House.” This makes it sound as if President Obama is the target of these acts. In reality, this is not the case. When the most visible and powerful are targeted, the actual target are all those who are less visible and less powerful. This is part of the definition of terrorism. A major symbol is targeted, the most visible voices are silenced. This is to incite terror in everyone who identifies with the symbol or major voice.
It is a type of shortcut–much more efficient than targeting, one by one, all those who are really the focus.
Also, it does not take someone powerful to incite this kind of terror. That is another function of terrorism in that relatively small acts by people with relatively limited means can do the job quite nicely.
I know there are those who say, “Well, it is only terrorism if we allow ourselves to be terrorized.” That may be. I haven’t though enough about that yet. But I do believe that “little” acts that might be able to be ignored can and do inspire larger acts that can do real damage. So maybe another tactic other than ignoring these kinds of things is required.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:20 pm ¶
Jalanda wrote:
Monie,
I care about both.
My father is in his late seventies. And in a conversation, he said: “Now is the time to remember your home training. Daughter, you got to be more than twice as good, twice as smart and twice as persistent to get what is rightfully due you. ”
Bigoted and insecure HR people are going to ramp us their biases. It is up to us (minorities in general, racial, sexual..etc) to make ourselves overtly desirable.
And to have the guts to call the offense what it is, and see to the end an equitable resolution.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:25 pm ¶
atlasien wrote:
I agree, this is not really aimed at Obama as a political figure. It’s generally aimed at people who support Obama, and specifically aimed at black people.
I don’t care if his political enemies insult Obama with stupid puns and caricatures. Go for it, he’s fair game. But when they bring in racist imagery, the stakes are higher and it turns much more serious and harmful.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:32 pm ¶
Dane wrote:
http://www.kroktalk.com/home/
Local Macon GA radio host appalled that inauguration was watched in schools, and decrying “Obama worship.”
This is in my home town. Check it out if you have the chance.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:51 pm ¶
Kandi wrote:
@Ugly Deaf Muslim Punk Gurl! – I sooooo agree. Who’s unpatriotic now!!
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 12:53 pm ¶
A.D. Nix wrote:
So much idiocy. And those watermelons look like invasion of the body-snatcher pods. Dumbasses cannot even manage to properly utilize Photoshop.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 1:10 pm ¶
Chris wrote:
Monie, what kind of effect do you think these kinds of jokes have on people? How much do you want a bet that if this kind of stuff keeps happening, those HR people and cops will start to feel more and more comfortable discriminating against black people? The idea the this stuff is trivial, and that comparing blacks to monkeys doesn’t do any actual harm, is quite naive. The kind of racism that leads to job discrimination and even police shootings doesn’t just come out of nowhere. Its constantly reinforced by the images demonstrated in this post, and that reinforcement has kicked into overdrive since the election.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 1:18 pm ¶
gatamala wrote:
Dane,
call them on their lack of patriotism.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 1:58 pm ¶
Monie wrote:
@Jalanda
I’m not sure that you and I are disagreeing. I certainly understand your father’s advice to you as I have heard the same from my older family members as well.
However I just think it’s a better strategy to focus on bigotry that has a real effect on Black people than racist propaganda made by insignificant people with so little imagination that they continue to use racist imagery that’s centuries old.
If we continue to acknowledge every knucklehead with a pc or some goofball that put a book in a display then that saps our own power as we are always putting out brush fires while the forest is raging with fire behind us.
@Chris
Isn’t it naive to assume that these sorts of people, HR people etc., need some sort of excuse or prompting to be bigoted?
After hundreds of years of racist imagery the damage has been done. A racist picture or display in a store isn’t going to be some sort of spark. The spark happened long ago.
So if that’s the case then why give credence to these sorts of incidents by always acknowledging them? One person has too much power when they can sit down at their pc and Photoshop a photo and it becomes the topic of discussion all over the country, don’t you think?
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 2:24 pm ¶
jen* wrote:
Speaking of little things and how they can end up to be influential, did anyone see Lie to Me – that show about detecting untruths through facial “microexpressions” and body language – last night?
Two of the characters made some comments about racism and how insidious covert racism can be. It was weird, watching it, cuz I’ve never seen a conversation like that take place in a group of white people. I’ll have to find a transcript somewhere.
As for allowing oneself to be terrorized, I think that only goes so far. You can choose how you respond to attacks. But that doesn’t change the fact that they were attacks. Even when one chooses the most positive of attitudes in response, the weight of dealing with continual/persistent attacks takes a huge toll.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 2:33 pm ¶
Fiqah wrote:
I wrote a series examining the so-called “Assassination Exhibit” (yep, that’s the effin’ name, y’all) last year. If you missed the controversry, here’s a link to the images from the exhibit, which the “artist” claimed was his not-racist critique the media’s assassination of Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama. My personal favorite: a photo with Barack and l’il Malia and Sasha captioned “Nappy Headed Hoes.” http://www.theassassinationofbarackobama.com/
A.D. Nix:
“So much idiocy. And those watermelons look like invasion of the body-snatcher”
(*DEAD*)
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 2:52 pm ¶
Invasian wrote:
Who says we are “post-racial?” For awhile, I have thought it was a white liberal thing; that electing Obama finally shows what they have done for us POC’s, and now we can all stop talking about race because it gets in the way of “progressive” matters.
However, conservatives might also push that “post-racial” bullshit on us in order to act as a shield to get away with the racist, bigoted things they have been doing ever since late night November 4, 2008.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 3:16 pm ¶
Big Man wrote:
On the watermelon picture, which I discussed at my blog a few days ago…
There is no joke without the racial overtones. There is nothing funny about a random picture of watermelons in front of the White House. What’s the joke?
The only way there is a joke is if we all understand that niggers like watermelons, and Obama is the head nigger.
It’s that simple. The fact that no mainstream media person called him on this bullshit is troubling. His response was illogical. If I said I didn’t pay my taxes because the sky is green, you better believe the media would po8int out that the sky is blue. But, they refused to do that in this case. That’s irresponsible.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 3:38 pm ¶
Lisa J wrote:
@Fiqua Holy COW! I was so stunned my typical WTF wasn’t enough for me to express my being so stunned with what I just clicked on. DAYUM! That is f-d up. And that is Anti-racist. YIKES. I’d hate to see what that person would put up if it was supposed to be intentionally racist. Some sick folks in this world. But I guess the artist is just reflecting what lots of people think. What is wrong with that gallery for putting that ish up?
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 4:06 pm ¶
Bobby wrote:
The most common conservative reaction to these examples of racism that I have seen are:
1. You people are overreacting.
2. Grow a thicker skin.
3. It was only a joke.
4. It’s the people who cry foul who are the true racists.
Like Forest Gump said, “Stupid is, as stupid does.” The same is true for racism.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 4:12 pm ¶
Fiqah wrote:
@Lisa J: The giant penis made my jaw hit my chest. “Once You Go Barack” indeed.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 4:32 pm ¶
marilyn wrote:
@Ugly Deaf Muslim Punk Gurl in all fairness, I did call Bush a stupid monkey for 12 years. But he is stupid and he *DOES* look like a monkey.
But this isn’t the same and everyone knows it. I am tired of people claiming that certain things aren’t racist and people are just taking it wrong. I don’t buy it. Even Bush wasn’t that stupid.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 5:02 pm ¶
Paz wrote:
I’m wondering what the objective of this post was. (I ask this honestly, not in a mean spiritied way). I’m sure that if any of us took the time, we could find an infinite amount of racist crap online.
Just to be clear, I’m not saying that these images don’t matter, or that everyone is being too sensitive or whatever. And I know that tackling racism needs to be tackled on both the large and small scales.
But it seems like looking at this kind of stuff, or reading comments on Fox News, for example, just gets me angry or disgusted….The man who sent out the image with the watermelons on the lawn is a small town mayor in Orange County…why is that man worth an ounce of my energy?
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 5:54 pm ¶
Latoya Peterson wrote:
If you don’t care, or don’t find much worth in these types of posts, there’s a simple solution:
Don’t read them.
They are clearly marked and labeled.
And I am so surprised at some of the shortsightedness of some of the commenters on here. Did it ever occur that everything on this blog doesn’t have to be for your personal entertainment? That maybe we put posts up to catch the people typing in terms like “white house racism” and “barack obama racism” and “post racial?”
Or maybe, one would think that we get three to four emails on each of these items until we put them up?
Honestly people – if you don’t like something, skip it. If you have no use for it, skip it. Let the people who need it find it.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 6:33 pm ¶
A.D. Nix wrote:
@ Paz
How is not concerning that an elected official who runs a town is passing these sorts of things around? Isn’t it possible that, thinking as he does, he might not be the best person to serve the people of color who do make up part of his constituency (however small)? Or that someone, anyone, should be on guard?
For me, moments of anger and disgust are good reminders that there’s still work to be done. I love additional kicks in the ass. I’m not troubled by getting angry; I’m troubled by possibly becoming complaisent.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 6:55 pm ¶
Fiqah wrote:
To anybody who doesn’t think this stuff is important enough to merit comment:
A penny isn’t much. It’s one measly cent. 1oo pennies ain’t much either and adds up to a dollar. 1,000 pennies add up to a big fat ten dollars – big damn whoop, right?
Not exactly. I just lugged over a thousand pennies (per the coin count report) to a supermarket CoinStar in a huge overnight bag. Both my arms and fingers are throbbing, my neck is on fire, and my back is fucking KILLING me.
The point I’m trying to make is that a single microaggression is light, but a whole bunch of them are heavy as hell. And they hurt. And THAT matters.
That’s why we sweat the ” small” stuff over here.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 7:35 pm ¶
Monie wrote:
@Latoya
Just so that I’m clear; are you saying if you post about something and that particular thing doesn’t bother us in the way that the author of the post thought it would that we shouldn’t comment?
I’m wondering because isn’t dissenting opinion sometimes a catalyst for constructive conversation and a learning opportunity for all parties?
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 7:46 pm ¶
Paz wrote:
@AD Nix – That’s a good point about the PoC constituency. My immediate reaction was simply rolling my eyes when I saw he was from Orange County. Now, I just think it’s downright depressing that I’m not even surprised by this shit.
@Latoya – I really hope I haven’t offended you. I’m not dismissing the post at all. Believe me, I am truly appreciative of the work that you, Carmen, and all of the contributors do for this site.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 7:54 pm ¶
Latoya Peterson wrote:
@Monie –
No, I’m saying don’t post dumb comments in the vein of “Why are we wasting our time on this? I want to talk about something else.” I see that crap all day from trolls, I don’t need to see it from regulars. It’s similar to the part in the comment mod policy that says “don’t post comments complaining about the comments.”
If you aren’t bothered, fine. Move on.
EDITED
@Paz – No, I’m not offended, I’m just annoyed.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 7:56 pm ¶
Monie wrote:
@Latoya
Okay, got it. Thanks. I hope I didn’t contribute to your annoyance, which certainly wasn’t my intention.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 8:16 pm ¶
Whitney wrote:
The sheer stupidity of some people will never cease to astound me. It was probably some dumb teenager who put the book there. I used to work at a Barnes & Noble and stupid teenagers would put sex books in the children’s section, erotic novels in the gifts, etc. It’s 100% true, and it would happen every day at our store. I had to scold middle-and high school kids on an almost daily basis for bringing inappropriate reading material into the children’s section. So honestly, it doesn’t surprise me that this would happen since B&N tends to be a target for pranks by stupid kids. I’m kind of upset that people would automatically assume it was a B&N employee. They’re very selective of who they hire. I never really noticed the displays in the front window at my store either.
As for the second entry, I can only imagine what went on in the creator’s mind “ZOMG! black people like watermelon! lollerskates! Let’s make a picture with a watermelon patch in front of the white house! I’m so clevar!”
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 9:04 pm ¶
Amanda wrote:
@marilyn
I was reading a book by a black lawyer, who HAS worked with ppl on sexual and racial discrimination charges, and was trying to make a handbook of sorts to keep ppl aware of their behavior at work.
One of the key issues she addresses in her book is NOT to refer to someone as an animal, stay away from politics and race. What seems harmless ( or even true) can backfire on you.
I’m just saying, I remember when ppl called bush a monkey, it was rude, and I wish ppl would stop referring to Obama a monkey. It’s harder for Obama because his job IS politics, race and current issues! But they did it with bush and they sure as hell will do it with Obama. It’s alot like the N-word.
One example the lawyer used was two ppl who worked at a job. ONe was a white woman (who was heavy set) and one was a black male. They were making honest jokes and the guy referred to her as the whale from Moby dick ( remember that book,LOL).
So guess what? She calls him curious george ( the money from a popular kids series). Now obviously he got offended, but he could not say anything because he has called her a Whale, and because the context was in the form of a joke.
Both ppl are oppressed ( she being a fat woman, he being as black male) BUT he has no excuses for calling her that. He has to learn his lesson the hard way.
The book is Called
Working While Black
By Michelle T Johnson
http://www.amazon.com/Working-While-Black-Persons-Workplace/dp/1556525109/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236305650&sr=1-11
Excellent Read!!!
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 10:16 pm ¶
NancyP wrote:
I am a believer in the necessity to address the coarsening of speech. Dehumanizing rhetoric has a way of escalating over time into violent rhetoric. Continued exposure to rhetoric of this nature, combined with the perception that “all your family, friends, and admired leaders” agree with the violent rhetoric, leads easily into passive acceptance of actual violence against the dehumanized target, if not to the active participation in the violence.
Nazi Germany and Rwanda had well-documented rhetorical escalation before the genocide started.
Now, is the monkey book a major threat? No. But it is worthwhile to promote social disapproval of dehumanizing rhetoric directed toward socially “marked” individuals, that is, anyone that isn’t the “default” American human – white, Christian, heterosexual, male.
Posted 05 Mar 2009 at 11:38 pm ¶
gogobooty wrote:
people of african descent have been compared to primates for years as part of racist eugenics sorts of arguments. it’s trying to say black people are less evolved than caucasians, closer to apes. the point of saying this is to diminish the humanity of african americans so that slavery and segregation could be maintained. this is why it is racist to make comparisons or use representations of monkeys or apes for black people.
george bush, on the other hand, seemed to negate this ridiculous argument against black people with his own caucasian, yet strikingly monkeyish expressions, darting apish eyes, inchoate verbal communication and underdeveloped empathic feelings and skills. one could not look at him without contemplating the missing link that connects us to our nearest relatives. yet it is not racist to think or say this about bush, because if he’d comported himself with dignity rather than presenting himself as a mugging dork, no one would have made the connection. there has not been a several hundred years long effort to convince the general population that caucasian people are more apelike than all others, either. so there’s the difference.
stupidity note: the book called “monkeys” has an ape on the cover. wrong! monkeys and apes are different, don’t buy this book!
~~~gogo
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 1:32 am ¶
A.D. Nix wrote:
@ Paz
It may be that I’m from SoCal (San Diego) and grew up in a part of the city that was not overwhelmingly brown (although the city as a whole is really diverse) that I felt immediately compelled to speak up for The Invisibles in his constituency. But, I think it also sucks for anti-racism whites in Orange County (all 6 of them*) to face this ‘ish from representatives in public office.
* Just kidding, Orange County. But seriously, we’ve got some work to do.
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 10:55 am ¶
SincereJustice wrote:
I definitely agree with you “gogobooty”
Let me know what you think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lHhPhIRngE
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 11:11 am ¶
the real patriot wrote:
Post-racial, indeed, ha. Certain people, more than ever are feeling threatened and what do the weak do when they are threatened? They lash out. So sad, but so… predictable.
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 12:23 pm ¶
cat m. wrote:
all i can think about is illdoctrine’s “how to tell someone they sound racist” video.
“we don’t need to see inside his soul to know he didn’t have say that thing about the watermelon.”
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 2:35 pm ¶
EvilAngelfish wrote:
What annoys me most is not the watermelon patch image but the lame excuse Grose gave that he was unaware of the negative associations between blacks and watermelon. I’m in my mid-20s – I’ve seen the swept-under the carpet Looney Tunes, the pickaninny memorabilia, all that stuff from yesteryear. This guy is at least twice if not 3 times my age. Unless he spent the first half of life completely isolated from any form of media, it’s highly unlikely that he was ignorant of the stereotype (which was prevalent enough to be represented in cartoons for children) and I wish someone had called him out for that. On top of that, I wish someone had dared him to explain the image, if it hadn’t been meant to offend. Was it supposed to be funny? Okay, why? What’s the funny part? Are watermelons inherently funny?
Sheesh. This reminds me of that elderly guy who claimed he “slipped” and used the n-word in a board meeting because he must’ve heard it in some rap song. Give me a break. Who do these guys think they’re fooling?
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 3:16 pm ¶
NancyP wrote:
gogobooty, W may have been tagged as “Chimpy” early on, because he seemed uninterested in anything that didn’t relate to getting elected, and had funny ears that quickly got emphasized by cartoonists. All this reminded some wag of the children’s book “Curious George”, and people started calling him “Not-Curious George”, and eventually “Chimpy”. At least that’s how I remember it. After 9/11, some people started calling him some variation on “My Pet Goat”, the children’s book that he kept on reading to an elementary school class in the 10 minutes or so after some aide delivered the news about the first crash.
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 7:08 pm ¶
MelMel wrote:
@ Fiqah:
Let me flip your metaphor: If I had a penny for every time we saw some racist shit like this…
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 10:30 pm ¶
Titanis walleri wrote:
“and underdeveloped empathic feelings and skills.”
Actually, I’m pretty sure most apes have a hell of a lot more capacity for empathy than Bush ever did…
Posted 06 Mar 2009 at 10:33 pm ¶
Fiqah wrote:
@MelMel: ROFF! Co-mofo-sign.
Posted 07 Mar 2009 at 10:39 am ¶
gogobooty wrote:
@sincere justice: i checked out the video of the guy talking…yup, the ape and monkey comparisons are longstanding…and i agree that woman had an odd relationship with that chimp…which gives me the creepin shivers. i have a deep, visceral aversion to monkeys. i do not care to get close or interact with them and ended up watching a bunch of monkey attack videos just to reinforce my separatist views!
@titanis: haw! i knew there would be someone who would make the point that apes are more empathic & caring than bush…no argument from me there. bonobo chimps are known to be kind and sweet to each other. but other chimps can be totally brutal to outsiders, females and other wannabe dominant males. kinda like bush, when ya think of it.
cheers
gogo
Posted 07 Mar 2009 at 1:41 pm ¶
Lena F. wrote:
My mother actually emailed me these pictures last week and was indifferent about it honestly. After the whole New York Post cartoon (regardless if it supposed was not aimed at President Obama) I really was not that surprised that some sad and ignorant person would arrange the books this way in the window so that everyone can see. The picture with the watermelons was a little more shocking honestly, only because someone was so ignorant that they had to use their time to photo-shop a picture of the White House to purposedly promote a racist message. I liked the remark made earlier: if this was not supposed to be racist, then why did the lawn have to have watermelons on it and not pumpkins? Something so detailed can be the most racist thing.
I do not think that President Obama’s election will not end racism in America, it will probably only reinforce it, and anyone who believe otherwise need a reality check; hopefully these pictures were that for you. Racism is not ever going to end, as long as there are people who have different skin tones, there will always be racism. The history of the media’s representation of people of color, especially African-Americans, has been so insanely racist that nothing really shocks me anymore. These people knew what they were doing and was aiming their ad for racism to African-Americans and the Obamas. Unfortunately, this type of attention is exactly what the creators wanted and we are giving it to them, so it is a no-win situation.
Posted 07 Mar 2009 at 4:17 pm ¶
little mixed girl wrote:
i think that republicans have been waiting to use the monkey thing.
as others have mentioned it’s like “payback” for 8 years of monkey caricatures.
however, in this case we have the added layer of the black ppl/monkey racism that has long persisted.
my suggestion would be to stop comparing people to animals. what happens is that the other party will do the same, and if it’s aimed towards a person of color they will either “forget/ignore/claim ignorance” of the stereotype.
putting up a person’s picture next to an animal to demean them is low. and if we, as left-leaning people want to be better than right-winger, we should show some class in those issues.
cuz now, republicans are going to go on for 4 years with the monkey thing and have the “well, you compared our president to a monkey, so we’re going to do it to yours” defense. <_<
Posted 08 Mar 2009 at 8:15 am ¶