It is safe to desegregate history?

by Latoya Peterson

Every year, in February, I receive the same two things:

(1) A bunch of targeted marketing surrounding black history month. (McDonald’s celebrates 365 black with a Big Mac! Chrysler salutes African Americans!)

(2) The predictable “When is Black History Month going to be over?” emails, requests, and newspaper articles.

One shining exception is Ta-Nehisi Coates’ “Black History Month. Meh.” post, where he writes:

I think people who want to get rid of Black History Month are only slightly less annoying than people who complain about Kwanzaa. Yes, it’s true–Bob Johnson and Michael Jordan weren’t what Carter G. Woodson had in mind. But the true mark of a movement’s success is its descent into hackery. Black people don’t get to pick and chose what aspects of America we want to integrate into. We have to take it all. White people who complain that there is no “White History Month,” much in the way that one might complain that there is no “Black Rapper Show”, merit no real response, except that we all look forward to a day when there is one.

Me on the other hand, I tired of black history month, circa 7th grade. True, I did do a recital of Marcus Garvey’s “Look For Me In The Whirlwind” at the “Black Awareness Assembly” in 12th grade. But mostly when I think of Black History Month, I think of being made to watch footage of Negroes getting the shit kicked out of them, and then Negro teachers extolling the nobility of letting someone kick the shit out of you. You can imagine how well that went over in West Baltimore at the height of the Crack Age. And then there was, as one of my editors put it, the “I Am Somebody” bullshit, in which you were forced to memorize a litany of black achievement facts. The goal seemed to be to prove that my history took to rote for just as well as anybody’s. I too can be reduced into a list of facts, America.

Meh, indeed. I’m only moved to comment on Black History Month when some fool is adamant that we’ve outgrown the need for it, despite showing their ignorance in, say, a letter to the editor.

So, when Carmen dropped me an email with yet another article asking if its “Time to End Black History Month,” I admit, I just yawned. I can’t muster up the same righteous indignation year after year. It is what it is, and as someone who recalls being in multiple black history month school events (as Wilma Rudolph (twice), Ida B. Wells, singing Lift Ev’ry Voice and Sing more times than I can count, and reciting both “Mother to Son” and “A Dream Deferred” in my K-12 career) I can see both the arguments for maintaining black history month and quietly integrating it into the official curriculum.

Yet upon further reflection, I realized that I actually would oppose such a move. Why?

Because the way we teach history in America is guaranteed to leave people with the wrong ideas about a lot of crucial moments in our history.

The history that we currently teach is hopelessly sanitized to the point where people are still unsure exactly what happened at a lynching, and are unaware of the historical meaning behind leaving nooses as “a prank.” We learn about major people, events, and dates, but not so much the ideas behind the actions. This is why we learn Crispus Attacks was the first person to die in the American Revolution (though it was technically the Boston Massacre that sparked the war), and that he was black, but generally have no idea why he was out there in the first place, and if he was included in organizing activities or just an unlucky casualty.

Also, when history lessons focus on nonwhites, the results are fairly grim, at best. Black history month is often linked with the word “trivia,” but other months have the same struggle to create a lasting impression. Lisa Leong described what she learned about her people’s history:

Everything I learned about Asian Americans in my K-12 education can be summed up in one sentence: Chinese laborers built one half of the Transcontinental Railroad. I accepted that that was all there was. Here it was, my people’s greatest and sole contribution to the country: getting exploited.

I remember that the Chinese were good workers willing to risk their lives blowing up mountains to make way for train tracks. Some died from the dynamite blasts. They were well-behaved in contrast to the Irish workers who drank and gambled. Because of their diligence, the Chinese finished their half of the railroad before the Irish.

This is a pretty racist version of history to learn in the fourth grade. While the stereotyping of Irish people is obvious, the depiction of the Chinese laborers seems like a compliment. “Positive” stereotypes are deceptive like that. Good, diligent, and hard-working is the model minority stereotype about Asian Americans, which shades how elementary school kids learn Asian American history. Everyone who goes through the American education system gets the standardized version of U.S. history—from which Asian Americans are largely absent.

Native Americans don’t get a great shake either, being relegated to “helpers of the pilgrims” roles and the occasional exciting backdrop for “heroic settlers” to fight against. After learning about the founding of our country, the stories of American Indians fade away to the background, only vaguely remembered when “Columbus Day” pops up once a year.

They say that history is written by the victors, but this is ridiculous.

I recently started reading The Color of Wealth: The Story Behind the U.S. Racial Wealth Divide. I started reading this book to further my understanding of wealth, capitalism, and people of color. However, while slowly working my way through the chapters, I noticed that the format of the book was amazing in its simplicity.

The chapter overviews describe what was happening in the United States during the time period examined, and each summary provides a snapshot of what was happening with Native Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, and Latin@s. While this tactic isn’t perfect, I think it comes much closer to exploring how historical events can impact different demographics positively or negatively.

I would like to see history taught as more of a conversation than a series of events to memorize. How did these events impact different communities? How is history interpreted by different groups of people? How did these events that occurred in the past have an impact on our actions now?

Until history is seen as something to be analyzed and understood, rather than just memorized, I have little hope for anyone reaching an understanding of our nation’s past through the presentation of facts and timelines. Moreover, I don’t see how we can ever hope to fix how black history month is implemented until we fix how we talk about history.

But that’s just my opinion. What say you?

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Comments

  1. AintIAWoman wrote:

    . Moreover, I don’t see how we can ever hope to fix how black history month is implemented until we fix how we talk about history.

    Yes, this.

    I totally agree there are a lot of problems with Black History Month, and in the way its taught– its like, okay lets devote one part of curriculum for 1 month to these people and memorize some dates and people’s names, and when that month’s over, lets get back to the real stuff. And memorize THEIR dates and names. Its sort of tokenized, and confusing, and thrust upon you and then taken back, and sort of forgotten. What good is watching the I Have A Dream speech 15 times, when we have no idea in the full context it occured in– no idea how the men and women who came before and after MLK lived and felt, during their everyday lives and not just during the March on Washington. Or why racism still exists today and why we can’t deny that it does.

    I still believe that these things can’t be fixed until we fix education/the way we teach history in general.

    So I don’t think the solution is to get rid of Black History Month, but to seriously rethink and restructure education and history-teaching in general. I’m not sure if thats too much to hope for, though.

  2. wendi muse wrote:

    awesome. that is all. carry on :-)

  3. Monie wrote:

    You know I’m not against Black History Month but what I really wish we had was a month when we studied racism. Teaching Black history without blending in an understanding of racism seems counterproductive. This is why some people don’t get why there needs to be a Black history Month in the first place.

    Understanding Racism Month anyone?

  4. Amused0472 wrote:

    I agree that how we teach our youth needs to change and is more important generally than whether we have a Black History Month or not. What you’re talking about is critical thinking and discourse. Not simply regurgitating facts that are memorized, but putting them into context from a sociological, historical, and economic perspective and analyzing the issues. This is why simply basing curricula on meeting certain scores on standardized tests does a disservice to our children. It’s a systematic “dumbing down” of our society.

  5. rachelef wrote:

    I am a historian by profession and inclination, and I spent most of my time in my college history classes getting my mind blown away by doing just what you said–seeing history as a conversation, not a timeline, and seeking the different interpretations and implications that any single event can have. I think it leads to a fuller understanding of history, though it also can bring with it necessary and –I think–important discomfort. I think when people see history as a network–there’s not just black history, white history, etc etc–then black history month could be integrated. Ideally, it would happen naturally through this approach anyway.

  6. Logan wrote:

    I took 3 years of Honors US History + AP US History in High school, starting about a decade ago now. The one thing that I took out of it, at least in the classroom, was that we were always running behind on our lesson planning (especially in the AP class where we actually had to implement tangent police because everyone there was interested in discussions and going off on tangents was a common issue; I think when we finished we’d just covered Ford and bits of Regan having rushed through the aftermath of Vietnam).

    To discuss a topic such as race in a meaningful way, I think, can’t be done in a typical US high school classroom, especially with the dearth of information already presented. This isn’t to say that the contributions of minorities or their issues are less important, but I think that to go beyond the basic factual knowledge (Andrew Jackson violated Supreme Court orders moving Indians out of Georgia, Harriet Tubman freed slaves, Asia-Americans got F’d in the A in WW2 American Concentration Camps) requires an entire unit, or perhaps even an entire class dedicated to covering the importance of minorities (and I’d throw women in there as well since they generally get the token stuff like Senaca Falls and Prohibition) to really be effective. I’d definitely be in support of a class like this in High Schools as a tool for education, but I don’t think, even if a significant portion of typical US history classes are devoted to the contributions of non-Whites or Women, that it will have a meaningful impact.

  7. Kavita wrote:

    I love the idea of teaching history as a conversation. To me this implies considering multiple points of view, rather than the idea that there is one “correct” version of the past (and we can guess whose version that will be).

    I certainly don’t have a problem with celebrating Black history month “365″ (as Mickey D’s says), but the idea that its no longer necessary still does manage to burn me up. On VH1 Soul (or maybe even BET) they have a Black History Month commercial where a diverse group of people are saying what they see as the future of Black History. One person (of color) says, “Colorless.” That just blows my mind. Its incomprehensible to me that someone could even posit the idea of a colorless Black history month. Maybe to some people that’s integration–to me it feels like erasure.

  8. Ugly Deaf Muslim Punk Gurl! wrote:

    Sadly, I think Black History Month IS necessary in order to educate both white students and students of color to learn about Black people’s struggles and Black American history, because like you said, history lessons in American schools tend to be biased and Euro-centric, focusing on great European painters and philosophers for months and months, while ignoring the rest of the world (or only given one week of attention).

    When I moved to America from England and was sent to a Deaf school, I first learned about “Indians” as in NATIVE AMERICAN Indians (I am Indian/South Asian, in case anyone wonders) and I was confused, bewildered and puzzled everyday when the teacher talked about Indians vs White settlers. These “Indians” the teacher spoke of looked nothing like Indians I grew up around.

    One day I raised my hand and asked the teacher if those “Indians” included me and she laughed. “Of course not,” she replied, “we’re talking about Native Americans.” To which I replied, “so what about us? When are we going to learn about India in history class?” and she didn’t reply.

    American education is a BIG joke, but you all know that.

  9. atlasien wrote:

    I think one problem is the way that the minority histories are squeezed into an “redemptive suffering/up through adversity” narrative.

    I can understand why. It’s an easy way of feeling empowered and boosting self-confidence to imagine your ancestors overcoming so many difficulties. So in the above example of how Chinese-American is included, even though I have zero Chinese ancestry, I felt a vicarious sense of pride and uplift when I learned about the railroad. My emotional logic was something like, “people think Asian-Americans are all foreign, well WE built the railroads, they think Asians are weak, that proves WE’RE not…”

    But in hindsight, it’s not all that helpful to only learn these kinds of histories in that kind of isolated Transcontinental railroad/Crispus Attucks type of way.

    It turns non-white people in history into cardboard characters. White people in history are flawed, complex, contextualized. People of color and their communities should be portrayed the same way, as more than just noble victims. They exploited other people, they exploited themselves, they had their own complicated motivations, some good, some bad. But this more cynical version of history would be a hard sell for the gatekeepers of K-12 education.

  10. Ugly Deaf Muslim Punk Gurl! wrote:

    to be fair, when I was a senior at my hearing public high school, they finally added a new class: “Latin American History” after a lot of pressure from student groups, although they didn’t have a class focused on Black studies yet… this was 8-9 years ago.

    Hopefully they have started adding more diverse history classes for students to take.

  11. jsb16 wrote:

    We can’t wait until high school, or even 4th grade, to start teaching both the basic facts of history and the conversation surrounding those facts. We don’t teach anything about demographics in elementary schools, and then we try to get students to understand the significance of minority roles in history in high school, while trying to cover the entire history of the US, in depth, in a year or two. It’s not possible. (Where I teach, the US history courses take two years and still don’t get past Vietnam.)

    What we need is better assessment, so that rote memorization of the entire timeline is both inefficient and ineffective, and curricula that focus on themes (racism, sexism, exploration, economics, religion) and force the students to go out and find the facts and integrate them into the classroom conversation. Passive learning appeals to students because it’s relatively easy, but we need active learners if we want a vibrant democracy and a positive national conversation on important issues.

  12. politicallyincorrect wrote:

    we must keep black history month is for kids to combat that so called history taught in schools that say we only existed as slaves and MLK. If you think that how schools go about is wrong, then go in and volunteer your time.
    Grown adults who have nothing better than to do then try to get rid of the celebrations that is for helping kids, needs to get a life. It not for you its for them

  13. slowroll wrote:

    “Moreover, I don’t see how we can ever hope to fix how black history month is implemented until we fix how we talk about history.”

    Amen.

    There was already so much broken with the teaching of history when I was in the public school system before 2000, I can’t even imagine what it looks like now that NCLB has been gutting any chances of spending time addressing issues outside of the formal curriculum.

    One huge problem with teaching history is that older generations tend to reject any history they hear that contradicts what they themselves learned in school. This is how a work as seminal as A People’s History of the United States can be discounted as “revisionist.”

    Because history is supposedly “sanitized,” students are not exposed to the murder of Fred Hampton (or indeed to Black Power in a positive way), the Tacoma Method, fishing rights and AIM, the true legacy of “indentured servitude,” the eugenics campaigns of the early 20th century, the Ishmaelites and other “tri-racial” communities, historical labor movements… The list of what is not “proper to be taught” could go on for a very long time.

    Personally, I think that history cannot be taught effectively without demolishing the boundaries of teacher vs student. All parties must bring forth their understanding in discussion, moderated by a knowledgeable facilitator who is able to guide the discussion by affirming or disconfirming factuality (or introducing facts in the beginning to get the discussion started), but who otherwise is not a teacher in the lecture sense and instead an active, if somewhat offset, contributor to the dialog. (This is called Popular Education.)

  14. Vica wrote:

    When I was in high school I took a full course called African-Canadian history. The teacher was excellent and forced us to talk to each other and ask questions, and above all, to question our own perceptions of history. We never got through all the material. Clearly, there is enough history there that it can be taught throughout a whole term in any history class.

    I think the main issue brought up here is that we need to teach historeography, alongside the dates and facts and timelines. We need to learn how to interpret and apply history. That isn’t only a problem when it comes to Black History Month, but to all histories. What are the modern implications? How does it shape the world we live in now?

  15. RJG wrote:

    @Monie: I agree that it would be good to actively have students understand and learn about racism, but the thing that bothers me in particular about a “month” to learn that is that it still ends up partitioning it away from everything else.

    @General Response: My one concern with Black History Month is that it still keeps black history distanced. As far as I know, BHM was created more as a band aid, because the entire educational system (and American culture as a whole) couldn’t be overhauled in a day to be more racially inclusive, but it was still recognized that there were some insanely large gaps when it came to racial representation in the curriculum.

    But, it seems that now that it is in place, no real steps are being made toward making a more integrated account of history that should be taught in classrooms. It also creates the problems that others have already mentioned, where because it’s a month in honor of a group, all things covered are generally the shining moments where good things happened to overcome the bad things, and it leaves out any form of reflection on the things that went wrong or the mistakes made.

    And, it then I think it also gets tricky to talk about the bad stuff still going on, because if it’s a month of celebration and giving respect to accomplishments, are people really going to do something like bring up New Orleans? Or would a teacher or speaker or whoever rather focus on MLK Jr?

    In my mind, it’s like with Thanksgiving. Since Thanksgiving is a holiday, and since it’s meant to be a fun family celebration, it’s bad form to focus on anything unpleasant. So we have this overly sterile view of history where pilgrims and native Americans had some turkey and got along really well. Who really wants to think that much about serious issues during a party?

    I’m not saying we should teach more misery and doom to students, but we should try to express that regrettable things that happened in history, and why those things were wrong. And I don’t think we can start having a more honest look at history until we make what is taught more integrated and inclusive, because then things can actually be analyzed instead of just being honored.

  16. Brandon wrote:

    Be careful, everybody. Don’t be hating on education, because you run the risk of hating on all educators. There are plenty of teachers out there doing great anti-racist work.

    I taught for nine years at an almost all-white school. I confronted my kids with America’s ugly racist history. We read first-hand accounts of lynchings, supplemented with great works of fiction like Stenbeck’s “The Vigilantes” and Ellison’s “A Party Down at the Square”. We looked at the murder of James Byrd a few years ago and how things have changed/not changed. We looked at history textbooks and wondered why the lynchings of the early 1900’s are barely mentioned.

    Are there problems in American education? Of course there are. But beware blanket statements that indict American education… there are great resources and great individuals and institutions putting them to great use. Find them. Celebrate them.

  17. Ras wrote:

    There are all sorts of problems with how history is taught at the K-12, and unfortunately even the college level at times. As a white student who took an African-American history course to fulfill an ethnic studies requirement in my freshmen year, I was absolutely blown away by how much fascinating material I’d never even heard of before–and through eighth grade I went to a public school system which emphasized Black history more than most, due to the fact that about half the students were Black. That class was one of several which inspired me to switch to a History major, and I am so glad that I did.

    Many students dislike history because it’s too often reduced to a recitation of dates and names, and that needs to change. This approach bores all students, but particularly people of color and women, I think. AP US history classes looking at and interpreting primary documents is good, but which documents are considered important enough to look at is a problem. We need to stop relying on the Big Fat Textbook of (Mostly) White Men’s History. Give students readers and articles about non-dominant histories, including primary documents. They’re smart enough. Students will also be exposed to the fact that history as a profession is largely moving in the direction of considering race, class, gender as integral to all historical analysis.

    When U.S. History is no longer white men’s history with a bit of tokenism thrown in, we won’t need Black History month. I hope to teach non-dominant histories to college students someday. But the problem is that high school history classes are often so dull and present such a limited perspective that many students are turned off the discipline in the first place, and may never take a history course beyond high school.

  18. inkst wrote:

    @Brandon – I agree, there are a lot of incredible educators out there making a huge impact on their communities by providing their students with genuine learning opportunities. However, I think that the basic problem is in the institution itself, which emphasizes compartmentalization of all knowledge and does not have the time or space for real dialogue or challenging students at any real level. Teachers like you are few and far between in my experience as an educator and currently as a youth worker who has regular contact with schools. Black History Month fits neatly into the established system. It is thematic, it is limited by dates, it can be incorporated into standardized curriculums, and it allows us to inoculate black history the same way we water down all history. I agree wholeheartedly with the folks who have pointed out that one of the basic flaws of the common teaching during BHM is how one-dimensional everyone is. The legacy of MLK Jr. is a perfect and ubiquitous example of a complex man who preached many truly radical ideas boiled down to an easily digestible, unattainable, “great man.”

    Our factory-style, 30-students in a room system simply cannot consistently and adequately support any real conversations and discussions. As a couple people have pointed out, even college-level courses often struggle with trying to really go deeper.

    At this point, I agree that BHM just needs to stay, if for no other reason than to regularly bring up discussions like this thread. I do not believe that it will become much more than singing “Lift Every Voice” and listening to “I have a dream” until our educational institution itself is completely changed.

    My hat always goes off to educators out there who do not bow to the institution’s push to simply fill students with knowledge-level crap. Thank you for the hard work you do. The other part of the work is for you to be supported by a revitalized educational system.

  19. Liz wrote:

    Like you, my only knowledge of Asian American history prior to attending college was about the Chinese laborers and the transcontinental railroad. Oh, and a teensy weensy bit about the Japanese internment camps.

    In fact, I’d argue that it took until college for me to have any understanding or appreciation of what history really means. I believed that history was about memorizing facts, and I completely agree that we need to change the way we teach, explain, and connect history.

    I’m a teacher now, and curricular restrictions make it tough for me to teach what I think my students really ought to be learning. I don’t want my students – who nearly all Dominican and Puerto Rican – to grow up not really understanding their own history, or how that history connects to others’ histories. And I obviously don’t mean I simply want them to memorize facts.

  20. Jess wrote:

    Let me say that an interesting thing to me is that we can talk about the way history is taught at all the way we do. That is, when you think about it, there has been a lot of progress here, and I think it’s wrong to discount that.

    I mean really, when was the last time you ran into anyone in high school who thought wiping out various Native tribes was a good idea for the settlers to do? Really? The brave settler narrative was under attack and pretty much dead when I was in high school in 1987, and flawed as it is, “Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee” was not an obscure work.

    Now, some of it is generational, and a lot of people my age were raised by hippie parents and all that, and people who were veterans of the Civil Rights movement.

    So to some extent, there has been a lot of work done and I doubt you will find a history class where anyone says the Cherokee Removal, for instance, was a victory for civilization.

    This is not to say that everything is perfect, far from it. But I find it amazing when I compare a typical text from the 50s (when my parents went to school) and my schoolbooks. It’s vast.

    All that said, I think there are several issues here about teaching and such that are salient, and that maybe we should sort of put things in perspective a bit.

    First, stuff like Black History Month is important. It isn’t a complete solution or anything, but it’s a nice step. Altasien had it right, I think, when she said there is a feeling of empowerment that comes from knowing your ancestors (or people like you) contributed something positive. Such feelings should not be discounted — they are important, at least as a first step. Is it a complete step? Hell no, but I ask myself whether it’s better to have it or not, and I say, well, better to have it.

    But then I think of Neil deGrasse Tyson, who said role models are an overrated concept. He said “pick an aspect of this person, an aspect of that person, no matter their skin color” to find the bits you need.

    Second, I can’t see how you would do history as a dialogue in a Socratic-type fashion before the high school level. I mean, you have to think about the purpose of education too, part of which is transmission of culture and a little information. To get there I have to at least get certain facts in. I mean, can you really have an intelligent discussion about slavery if you don’t know things like who was president in 1852 and why? It would be tough.

    So I’d say at one level, the timeline thing people complain about is certainly a problem. On the other, before high school I’d worry about getting in the data first. And no, you’re not going to get in everything. And even getting a few myths in there isn’t always terrible. Learning the Cherry Tree story about George Washington in 4th grade didn’t block out my brain from learning all the other stuff. In fact, I learned more when I got interested enough in the myth to actually find out more about it.

    I think more important once you get to the high school level, is learning the habits of mind that allow you to do research and ask certain kinds of questions, and frame them properly to maximize the information you’re going to get.

    That’s kind of a different question than just history tho. And some of it is looking at education as discrete subjects as though they were unconnected.

    I’m not an educator so I am not sure how one might go about it. But I do know that things like science and math are important precisely because they allow you to apply certain tools to your thinking — tools that are pretty damned effective, especially when you want to tease out biases in your own reasoning.

    And none of this is to say that some of the traditional narrative isn’t flawed, god knows. But Id say that traditional narrative has been subtly changing for a very long time. It isn’t monolithic by any means, and you have to start someplace.

    I have mixed feelings about it because I think “Black History Month” is reductive. But at the same time I am not sure what I would do otherwise.

  21. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    @Brandon –

    Be careful, everybody. Don’t be hating on education, because you run the risk of hating on all educators. There are plenty of teachers out there doing great anti-racist work.

    Disagree. Educators and the people who write textbooks, sell textbooks and set cirricula are seperate entities.

    Part of the reason I write in these spaces and agitate for the things I do was because I got to watch as many of the teachers I thought were good – those who took the time to answer questions, to stimulate conversation, to engage us in the material – were so frustrated by the changes in the educational system. As one teacher put it, “they are trying to make the art of teaching and turn it into a science.” Overstuffed lesson plans that don’t leave time for questions? Test requirements based on timelines? Editing out controversial moments in history in order to have a smooth narrative?

    My teachers weren’t doing that. That’s the US Educational System Complex, something that did not exist back when many of my teachers (who were 20 and 30 year veterans) started their lesson plans.

    @Jess -

    You were in high school in 1987, eh? Well, I was in high school in 1997, graduated in 1999. I’m not sure what school district you were in, but here’s what we learned:

    I mean really, when was the last time you ran into anyone in high school who thought wiping out various Native tribes was a good idea for the settlers to do? Really?

    In 4th Grade, we learned what Indian tribes settled Maryland before they died of diseases.

    In 6th grade, we learned about Native American Myths and we read Sign of the Beaver in English.

    In 7h grade, we learned about settlements. Homesteaders and such.

    In 9h grade, they gave us a little more detail of what happened to Native Americans, talked a little more about the Trail of Tears, read a poem. Then that was it.

    The overwhleming lesson was that Native Americans were in the past. The settler narrative was no longer embraced, but never challenged, which left a knowledge gap easily filled by pop culture representations of Native Americans – which normally followed that settler narrative, or the “noble people of a land long ago” trope that’s so popular. I remember watching one afterschool special that dealt with Native American teens and it was one of those “They’re still here?” moments.

    I doubt you will find a history class where anyone says the Cherokee Removal, for instance, was a victory for civilization.

    No, but we did learn that Manifest Destiny was totally awesome because it expanded our borders. There were some people there, but after a few fights, the settlers worked it out and the voluntarily went to the reservations.

    This is not to say that everything is perfect, far from it. But I find it amazing when I compare a typical text from the 50s (when my parents went to school) and my schoolbooks. It’s vast.

    Yep. But the work isn’t over.

    On the other, before high school I’d worry about getting in the data first.

    Who decides what data is important? You left that part out. Some of my friends went to an Afrocentric school – what they learned was completely different than what I learned. And I used to clash with a couple of my teachers because my independent reading was clashing with the generally accepted school narrative of how things went down w/r/t slavery, slave master relationships, and the struggles for emancipation.

    I think more important once you get to the high school level, is learning the habits of mind that allow you to do research and ask certain kinds of questions, and frame them properly to maximize the information you’re going to get.

    Have you talked to a teacher lately? Three of my friends are, two who teach in the inner city. Trying to get some one to think when they were not given the tools to do so early in life is quite difficult. And other influences make it even tougher. Feed a kid a lie early on, chances are they will retain that lie until they find a reason to challenge it. That’s why so many of my friends went through phases of extreme anger in college – they were learning the truth after decades of lies. Not just the direct lies you refer to, but the lies of omission. Leaving blacks out of historical documents means that you will have people erroneously decide that blacks haven’t done anything worth noting.

    Black History Month appears to have been designed with that last bit in mind – Garret T. Morgan and George Washington Carver, we salute you! – but the conversation can’t just end there. And that’s where a lot of the criticisms lie – a lot has changed since 1926, but BHM functions roughly the same way.

  22. inkst wrote:

    @ Jess – You make some good points, but I disagree about having dialogues before high school. Part of my entire issue with our standard educational system is that it isolates facts from experience. Human beings are exposed to and experience the culture around them from the day they are born; the culture of their family, their neighborhood, their town, their region, their race, their ethnicity, their religion, their nationality, etc. In the US (and in other country’s, but we are talking about our BHM here) part of that cultural experience is racism. Kindergartners are capable of a certain amount of reflection and problematizing around issues of inequality. They see and notice more than is given credit. And you can certainly have a discussion about slavery without knowing who the president was. Does that information have any bearing on thinking about people taking advantage of others? on thinking about how it feels when someone takes your power away? On thinking about what it means to witness someone hurt someone else? The experience can be placed in the context of historical facts. Students will actually care about the facts once they are invested in the ideas. In that way, not much has changed in our educational system in a 100 years. Yes, there have been huge shifts in some aspects of the generally accepted narrative of our country, but if we had truly made real progress away from manifest destiny and the white man’s burden, we wouldn’t have the commonly held xenophobic attitudes towards immigrants or non-christian countries. And this discussion about how to educate has been around for a very long time. There were people who spoke out against rote learning a century ago. John Dewey is one example among many. Yes, some progress has been made, but I would argue that it is primarily superficial, which is why BHM often rings hollow.

  23. Grandpa Dinosaur wrote:

    The problem with Black History Month is that it’s segregated from History Class. At least it was in my school. It was more an event for Black students to be proud of being Black, but it was hard when racism against Black people seemed to double that month.

    It’s a shame that it can’t be integrated into the textbooks and curriculum (the school board won’t stand for it).

    Black History Month in one month out of the year on the coldest month of the year. White History Month run 12 months a year. It digusts me when I hear that people want to end Black History Month, and I’m not even Black. I’m Asian.

  24. Cara wrote:

    One reason to continue BHM….hummmm, so we can claim what is ours instead of allowing others to claim every “good” thing blacks have created as their own!

    I am truely sick and tired of having to explain what sould food is to ppl, only to have them say…”wow, i guess i was raised on sould food then.” NO!!!!! Why in the hell do ppl insist on claiming sould food as just good “american” and/or “southern” food!!! That shit gets on my nerves!

    As a proud southern black woman I know the difference b/t Soul food and Southern style cooking…..seariously folks this makes me angry.

    1st we had to eat the scraps that were left over….so we added salt, peper, and lard to make those scraps taste good…..really good. But now – like jazz, like rock-n-roll, shit…like everything else we did – Folks start assuming and claiming that there is no difference b/t Sould food and Southern food!!!!

    Ahhhhhhhh…..now I feel better.

  25. Lola wrote:

    I graduated in 1998 and we were definitely being taught happy Thanksgiving, Manifest destiny was an awesome slogan, this is what a slave ship looks like, black people were emancipated, black people were quiet for 100 years then civil rights movement to be allowed to sit next to white people in public. The brutality of what happened to Natives and blacks was never mentioned. In my college American History II class lynching photos were shown and my white classmates were stunned. They didn’t understand how there could be so many photos of lynchings and why someone would want to make lynching a crime when murder was already illegal.

  26. Beth wrote:

    “To discuss a topic such as race in a meaningful way, I think, can’t be done in a typical US high school classroom, especially with the dearth of information already presented.”

    To me this sort of sums up the basic issue: American history is presented as separate and different from American+ history. Each of those events you talked about included and impacted PoC, but that’s not what is covered in the “overview of facts”. As I grew up I studied history time period by time period, which offered the chance to read different perspectives on the same events. I read some primary sources and lots of age-appropriate historical fiction that talked about people the history books didn’t (I particularly recommend Patricia McKissack, who’s kept writing since I was in school). When I studied the revolutionary war, for example, I also read about the slave trade and rise of agriculture, and the roots of the economic conflict that contributed to the civil war. Westward expansion included the California missions, goldrush racial politics and African-American cowboys. Did I cover all the participation of people of color in our history? Of course not. But a lot of things that don’t quite make sense in history (like prohibition or westward expansion) don’t make sense because we are glossing over or outright ignoring at least half the people involved.

    American history is not pretty, however, and it’s not the idealist projection Americans seem to want their children to learn, or even to remember themselves (e.g. the summary of history presented in the inauguration speech). Until we accept that, though, and are willing to teach children a story of history that includes all the people involved, Black History Month is one way for some of those voices to be included.

  27. Liza wrote:

    Yup and yup. In my work, I struggle with doing the programming around “heritage months”. We still do it, given that I work at an educational institution that still doesn’t have an integrated curriculum that includes the history/literature/representation of all peoples (heck, I’d settle for some representation of a FEW people for that matter!). On all of our month-theme posters and at the start of every program, our introduction of the event includes a statement that says.. “And as we offer this program/speaker/film as a piece of our Black/Asian/Latino heritage month, we firmly believe that the history and experiences of all people be learned 12 months out of the year, and not just in these 30 days.” Even in creating our programming, we include at least 1-2 programs that are outside of the “ethnic/racial” identity of the month (ie we have an Asian American activist coming during Black History Month, etc).

    Haven’t fully reconciled it all yet, and certainly, yeah, we’d LOVE to see all histories and how they intersect, but the truth is that our educational system just hasn’t done the work yet…..

  28. Eleanor wrote:

    I’ve worked with several groups of k-12 teachers with the dept. of ed. ‘Teaching American History’ grants – and so I know that there are many teachers out there who want to improve, and tackle a fuller teaching of history – even as young as kindergarden (for example: what might be some strategies for introducing a more complex reading of Columbus Day to kindergartners); but there is so much stacked against even the ones who want to improve.

    Most took only the barest minimum of history in college – the big intro lectures, naturally – so they have almost no extensive knowledge about what to work from as they seek to expand their students boundaries – their own limited knowledge base is crippling. Say they want to include more black American experiences in the ‘western frontier’ section of class – they have no idea where to look to get good info or ideas (though the web is making things easier for those who have the time) our how to make it meet their state standards.

    Then the k-6 teachers have so many other responsibilities, add in the various state social studies standards they have to teach and test – mostly written in highly politicized committees….. The horror of the way most k-12 history/social studies texts are produced has been documented in lots of places, “Lies My Teacher Told Me” is just the most famous.

    Changing all these conditions is really hard, and they all intersect to create the generally bad situation for the teaching of history in k-12 classrooms. And I don’t have any bright ideas about how to go about that systemically. Which is not to throw up my hands in despair – I think working with individual teachers does make real impact. One at time. But that is not a speedy project.

  29. BSK wrote:

    Bravo. As an educator, I always think of Black History Month as a necessary evil. “Evil” because I think it is ridiculous that the most (only?) effective way our education system AT LARGE has found to teach the history of African-Americans is by an intense but shallow focus one month out of the year. And “necessary” because, without it, we’d keep learning about how MLK was all smiles and slavery happened a long time ago and is over now. Ideally, we’d get to a point where any moment in American (and world) history would be studied with regards to how it impacted ALL PEOPLE at the time. Unfortunately, the way we talk about and teach history is still from a white perspective that either ignores or diminishes POCs, woman, and other groups outside the culture of power.

    My favorite example? If the 1930’s were the “Great Depression” then why the hell don’t we call the period from 1492 to, oh, about today the “HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS SHIT’S FUCKED UP”? Just a thought.

  30. Jess wrote:

    Latoya–

    interesting what you got about Native people and what I did, as both of us were on the East Coast. That may have contributed, you know, to the “they’re in the past” trope you speak of. The situation would probably have been different in New Mexico or Arizona, I’d bet. I anyone here can speak to that I’d love to hear it.

    And well, I never heard that Manifest Destiny was a great idea– just that it existed to justify expansion. But maybe in New England we’re a little more wary of that one.

    Like I said, it ain’t perfect. But I get wary of certain kinds of stuff that gets thrown around out there. Like, and maybe this is me being a child of the 70s. I remember the insert-here-centric stuff that came out then and it quickly degenerated into what I thought became the “bad breath” theory of history, which I thought was just as damaging as anything else. It was the “noble savages in utopia until the white people showed up” which was to my mind just as dehumanizing as more traditional narratives. In some ways — and this is especially true of some “Afrocentric” narratives — you end up buying into the very values you are supposed to be rejecting.

    And the data I am talking about is — well, let me put it this way. You want to learn physics? You start with Newton. You drop a ball off a building and the law of gravity cares not at all what color you are. 9.8 m/s/s. That’s it. You can say it’s 12 m/s/s if that makes you feel better, but you won’t understand anything at all well. And if you don’t get that right you won’t get anything subsequent to it right.

    But that simple insight — objects fall at the same speed no matter what — offers a really profound way to open up the world.

    And learning all that “boring” stuff is important, I think. In some ways I have become a bit of an educational conservative over the years. Because I see too many (college) kids who think “what I know is what matters and how it makes me feel” rather than wanting to know what actually went on, you know?

    So it’s important to know who the players are and why they did what they did — and who the players were from the non-white, non-male side as well. But there’s such a thing as building the skills at a young age and learning some basic stuff so you can even ask the question. And it may not make us all feel good, but the people who were setting the policy that was so unfair for other people were the old dead white protestant dudes. That’s just the way it was, and yeah, that does make them more important than some other people to the direction the country took, at least at the level of what the government was doing at the time. You kind of can’t escape that.

    George Washington was president in 1799. My ancestors weren’t here yet (probably busy getting pillaged by cossacks or Turks, or roughing up Japanese peasants), so we don’t get a place on the stage. No soup for me! But history is under no obligation to make me feel good.

    Let me get to a physics example again — you could try to start right off the bat with QM. You’d fail unless you are Ramanujan reincarnated. Why? You need the simple stuff first even if it isn’t a really accurate way to describe phenomena.

    That is, Newton’s theories aren’t complete. But at the speeds and masses most people deal with it works. That said, you get good with the basic calc and handy with a little vector calc. Then you can begin to understand enough math to know how to even approach QM and Relativity, which are more accurate, deeper, and give a better picture. It’s hard. It’s sometimes tedious. But it’s damned necessary.

    So, if you told kids in say, 4th grade, “There were Native Americans here, they don’t live here now.” That’s not so bad because then you can ask the next logical question why don’t they? You need to know that disease, war and loss of land happened before you can even get to why.

    I didn’t learn about Socialist theory until late high school or college, but you have to have a basic understanding that people get paid to work before you can get there.

    You needn’t be able to name Buchanan’s cabinet, but again. I can’t imagine having an intelligent conversation about Lincoln’s birthday without having some idea who and what came before him. And knowing that, for instance, slavery was a contentious issue.

    I think what I am getting at is people seem to act like these things are mutually exclusive when I don’t think they necessarily are.

    And sometimes, when I see people say “That’s white history” I want to say “Yes, it is. And if you want to change things you had better know it cold so nobody can sneak up on you again.”

    But maybe that was just my parents. My dad is a historian of labor, and he felt I could never understand labor movements without having a damned strong grasp of economics — especially right wing economics– and understanding the details about the robber barons, et al. he always says that unless I understood what he was fighting intimately, then there was no way I could ask any questions challenging it. Adam Smith before Das Kapital, if you see what I mean, because the latter will make no sense without the former.

    Am I making sense? I am trying to tease out things here for myself as well. Some of it comes from my experience as a person who went from the sciences to the humanities (so I know the analogies I drew are far from perfect).

    As I said, I am not an educator. (I actually was trying to become a NYC teaching fellow this year, so much for that). I’ve spoken to a few here and there, and I am still not sure how to process some of it.

    [By the way, Latoya, I don't know if you like Gil-Scott Heron -- but he had a great riff on BHM last week. "I want Black History Month to be May, so I can pronounce it. White people always put an extra 'r' in February and I can never find it." There's more to it, of course, but if you find a YouTube of it it's priceless.]

  31. Nathan wrote:

    The expansion of history teaching to incorporate the impact on and actions of people of colour is definitely an important step, and should make its way into classrooms from as young an age as can understand the concepts. As people pointed out, the sanitised versions that get taught tend to lead to a lot of pushback against more honest appraisals later on (god knows its something I have to watch myself with…).

    It’ll displace other subjects to an extent, and water down the depth on other parts of history lessons, but the net benefit will be there, I think. A greater understanding of what really came before and what shaped today’s situation, including how privledge was shaped.

  32. Angel wrote:

    I don’t remember ever doing anything for Black History Month at my (predominately white) schools. And if we did, it was probably about Martin Luther King, Jr. or Harriet Tubman. That is what bothers me about the event; as early as grade school I became tired of hearing about the same two or three people being lauded as black heroes. It’s not that I don’t appreciate them. I just do not like that black history always gets reduced to the same achievements and individuals. I was amazed when I first learned that my new hobby– swing dancing– was an African-American art form. How much fun would it have been to take a swing dance lesson in honor of Black History Month instead of hearing the sanitized version of Rosa Parks again? And when I, a classic movies fan, first learned of the black movie Carmen Jones starring Dorothy Dandridge, the first black woman nominated for an Academy Award, I had to call my mom up and ask her why she had never told me about her and the movie. How nice it would have been to grow up and see this black icon among the Elizabeth Taylors and Marilyn Monroes instead of feelings like blacks were wholly absent from America’s visual history. There is so much history for us to draw from and so many novel ways to present it, but Black History Month, at least as I’ve experienced it, is severely lacking.

    And I agree about our conversations about history being flawed. We teach history without context. We try to avoid the racism and all the horrible things we did that will make us look bad. We don’t learn about how our country started proxy wars in other countries, squashed revolutions and set up dictators in some countries, and and/or sold arms to those countries, and if we did it probably still would not be connected to the discontent the affected people feel for decades to follow. We don’t talk about the political motivations of people, and we ignore the flaws of our historical figures. History is taught as unemotionally as possible (except for possible attempts at stirring patriotic sentiments), and every event is presented as isolated from every other event and from the present. Unfortunately, as a result we see a lot of the attitude today of “that happened 25, 50, 100 years ago– get over it!” The problem is that the effects of actions taken yesterday continue to reverberate for decades to come, and people cannot understand that from our history education.

  33. Princess wrote:

    In my opinion, Black History is American and world history. Yes, some educational institutions could do better with teaching history throughout the year. And it should be an ongoing dialogue based on truth since Black history did not simply begin with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. nor does it end with President Barack Obama.

    Perhaps this is wishful thinking on my part, but I think the study of Black history and history in general should begin at home. Someone mentioned to me that their teenaged child becomes irritated during conversations about racism and refuses to discuss the topic. I later learned it is due to the fact that there was no real dialogue and the child is now a senior in high school.

  34. Jennifer wrote:

    @Jess
    I grew up in the “Land of the red man” aka Oklahoma. My U.S. history class was a lot like everybody elses, with just a few scattered references of non-white people.

    However, we are really big on state pride and history, a lot of which is in response to people from other states thinking we live in teepees and ride in stagecoaches still. So, Oklahoma history is a required high school class.

    The class would have been truly impossible to have without learning about Native Americans. We learned about the big bad government rounding up the Indians like cattle and moving them to where we are now and how they overcame and thrived when they got here. We learned about people like Sequoyah, Jim Thorpe and Wilma Mankiller.

    However, we also learned about the Land Runs and how they also showed grit and determination to overcome and survive.

    Unfortunately, the class was sanitized to where we never learned about how these two narratives may have conflicted. Like why weren’t there Indians on the land the whites were running to? Instead, we were to think there were no conflicts, best represented by our flag which features an olive branch and a calumet.

    The only thing about any other racial group was that blacks moved to Indian Territory to escape slavery/Jim Crow and formed all-black towns.

    Forget the part where there were already black people here, in the form of the slaves the Indians brought with them on the Trail of Tears.

    While I like that I did learn something about Indians in school, I see no reason why other races could not have been included in our state history class or why Indians, blacks and every other race could not be included in our U.S. history class. And the sanitized version of history has got to stop.

    @ Angel
    Hattie McDaniel was actually the first black person to be nominated, attend, and win an Academy Award for her role has Mammy in Gone With the Wind. While her roles were literally typecasted as “Mammy,” she did a lot to begin the desegregation of Hollywood. I recommend learning more about her struggles, which opened the door for Dorothy Dandridge, Halle Berry and others.

  35. CVT wrote:

    @ Jess -
    Filling kids’ heads with “facts” doesn’t have anything to do with the ability to discuss or understand history. I AM an educator, and the one biggest thing missing (I get kids in middle school) from the kids I teach is their ability to find information on their own – to read through an article and find the key bits. To do any personal research. Because, as long as history is taught as “here is the information you should all know,” the kids don’t learn anything but some random numbers they later forget.

    When put into context, and when the kids are given some control over HOW they get the information, it changes everything. History, of all subjects, is not meant to be taught as a series of “important dates and facts.” History is a story, and fluid, and open to interpretation, and when kids don’t learn that – forget having learned anything useful from it, or having any skills to apply in the future.

    And, trust me – kids are able to discuss and question LONG before high school.

    @Everybody -
    If you haven’t already, buy “Lies My Teacher Told Me” by James W. Loewen. Now. It kind of sums up the whole deal (and I’m sure you’ll learn something you didn’t know before).

    @Jess – If you read the above book, you’ll see why what happens now just isn’t even close to “good enough.”

  36. akoma wrote:

    Hmmm…I’d prefer a school where “black history” isn’t necessary because the curriculum (including the history of the U.S.) is taught from a global inclusive point of view, but for most of us we either didn’t have that choice for ourselves or don’t have that choice for our children. As Latoya said, we’ll need Black history month until the way that history is taught is changed. Jess, you hit on some good points, but most people don’t even get to economics until they’re juniors or seniors in high school. I’m not a teacher, but I’ve worked on public education issues with teachers, and there are a myriad of age-appropriate ways to teach history, economics, “facts,” etc. in a way that is inclusive of all the people and forces that contributed. Of course who was president of U.S. in 1853 or whatever matters, but the idea that only individual people in powerful positions created forces for historical changes is flawed. One huge problem i have with “Black history” month is not just the list of facts, but that it usually begins with “black people were slaves.” That is absolutely not where our history begins. And before we get into “well Africa aint U.S. history” I for one was required to learn European history as a graduation requirement. About Charlemagne and whatnot.

    Anyway, thanks for the post, Latoya.

  37. slowroll wrote:

    Perhaps the largest barrier to truly teaching history is the fact that mainstream US culture has seemingly decided that there cannot be multiple narratives. (This is the same mainstream that means “Christian” when it says “moral”).

    For instance, Bush Sr.’s CIA cannot have been importing cocaine and foisting it on inner city populations because there is only one narrative allowed, and in that narrative he was never even really investigated, let alone convicted of anything. Therefore he is not guilty, Iran-Contra never happened, and the CIA did not fuel the crack epidemic.

    If you go and teach the real narrative in a public school, you are probably going to get fired.

    So the first, and biggest, impediment to integrating American history is the fact that history as a school subject is little more than a vessel for the white-male-capitalist-triumphant propaganda narrative. BHM (in my experience) has no coherent evolution of lessons over time, where each year students learn something new, thus it is a perfect vehicle for re-enforcing the propaganda narrative in that it hermetically seals black history into a compartment containing only sanctified, untouchable personalities. Just like Jesus died for “our” sins, MLK died for the white man’s sin. End of story. End of the month? Okay well let’s learn some more about Andrew Jackson and Manifest Destiny. Here is a picture of Mt. Rushmore. Moving on…

    @Jess

    “I didn’t learn about Socialist theory until late high school or college, but you have to have a basic understanding that people get paid to work before you can get there.”

    So basically in your opinion one cannot learn socialist theory until one has been indoctrinated with capitalist dogma? Or have learned enough from history class to know that “socialism is wrong, mmmkay”?
    Yes, one needs to understand economics in
    order to understand socialist economics, but one does not need to understand economics in order to understand the philosophy or ideology of socialism.

    Kids learn fairness in kindergarten.

  38. Angel wrote:

    Jennifer,

    Oops. I meant Dorothy Dandridge was the first to be nominated for best actress. I could kick myself. I knew Hattie McDaniel was the first to be nominated and win. In my defense, it was late at night, and I was tired :-P

    I think I do find Dandridge’s nomination so striking, though, because her role was so different from that of the Mammie types. Who knows? Maybe that was also part of the appeal for the nominators. When I look back on old movies, all the black women I see when I see them are stuck in the role of nurturing but sassy or comical black servant. It must have been shocking back then to see a black woman play such a strong, independent role.

  39. Jess wrote:

    @Jennifer– thanks, that helps a lot.

    @CVT — you too, that helps some. Like I said, I am not an educator, but I was seeing a lot of people at work and in talking to kids much younger a problem that I am trying to articulate, so forgive me if I am not doing it well.

    What it is, is that I feel like there was no appreciation for the kind of factual information that helps frame an argument, you know? Like, and maybe this is my science-geek training, it seemed crazy to me when I went to college and was in a Women’s studies class, and someone says “well, science is all a gendered endeavor and therefore doesn’t tell you anything.” WTF? Boyle’s law isn’t wrong, and no matter what your politics you had, IMO, damned well better understand at least a little of one of the single biggest influences on our lives.

    Getting to other subjects, if I was in a class and said to you, “Well, the facts of slavery don’t matter” you’d be all over me. Facts do matter, it seems to me. I’ve met people who honestly didn’t know how to frame an argument with them, and it is scary to me. Really scary, because that’s the only way you are going to get any changes at all — or be in a position to fight for them.

    Maybe the problem isn’t teaching history, per se, but logic?

    Like I said, I wasn’t thinking of string of facts and such like a Trivial Pursuit game. But more an appreciation for what that kind of information can tell you.

    And maybe the methods of teaching science and math — which is very much a process of building blocks from simple to more complicated — is not necessarily applicable to history.

    That is, (and this is something non-science geeks may not notice) when you learn math, you are actually duplicating the history of math in terms of human thought. You start with addition subtraction, et cetera, and only then can you do algebra. Same with science — there is a reason we start with what is essentially Aristotelian mechanics (this is the simple stuff you got in grade school) and only later get to Newton (when you start using a little algebra/calc — which not coincidentally was invented later).

    You just can’t jump around — not if you want to understand what you are doing — and the whole thing about narratives and subjectivity doesn’t work all that well.

    But this is also because science and math are very different tools and trying to do something different (science in particular is about understanding the physical world, which is the same for everybody, whereas history is about understanding how people see themselves which is not).

    And I might also say that it all might come from my own upbringing. A lot of people here have sad they were angry or surprised that they learned things in college or later that weren’t what the “traditional narrative” said, and to me, being surprised at that is like being surprised that other people are different. Well, of course! Why in the world would you expect the stuff you learn in more specialized history classes to resemble what you got in grade school or high school? It’s like expecting QM to resemble the simple chemistry you got in 10th grade. It’s almost like people expect that everything they learn is handed down by Moses or something.

    When I learned things that were different from the old Pilgrims-Indians narrative in college, I didn’t say “OMG! The Lies!” I said “Well, I am learning something deeper that is a better picture of what happened.” Just like my Newtonian mechanics is an incomplete picture of physics. Newton wasn’t a liar.

    But hey, my dad drilled that concept into me from an early age. So I probably got something most people don’t get. And I was blessed with teachers who were happy I did a little extra reading on my assignments.

    Is any of this getting across? I feel like I am groping here, and not being a teacher I am not sure how I would change things. But I do know what I see in people who are products of the public school system (having had to supervise them) and in a profession where an appreciation of historical context is rather important, as well as argument-from evidence-building skills.

    CVT, help me here, please ! :-)

    @slowroll–

    I’m not saying you have to be indoctrinated into being a capitalist. I am saying to understand socialst theory at all, you have to have at least a basic understanding of capitalism so you can say why it has problems.

    If you know nothing about the effect of smoking, you can’t say why it’s bad, right? Otherwise all you are saying is “It’s bad because I say so” rather than “It’s bad because of X, Y and Z effect on your body.”

  40. Titanis walleri wrote:

    “It was the “noble savages in utopia until the white people showed up” which was to my mind just as dehumanizing as more traditional narratives.”
    Not to mention even more inaccurate…

  41. NancyP wrote:

    This is an excellent thread – thank you, all.

    Why not take a gimmick from the Holocaust Museum? Get the individual student to view events from one person’s perspective.

    For a given time period and location, one could come up with a scenario involving a manageable number and variety of characters interacting in various ways. A scenario could have 1. owner of large cotton plantation 2. black sharecropper 3. white smallholder farmer 4. farm equipment salesman (harvesters, cotton gin, etc) 5. relative of black sharecropper #2, visiting from Chicago. Split class into 5 groups by random means – assign each group a character and tell them to find out something about how the character makes a living, what an average workday is like, what the character would do to attempt to make more money, how the character would spend the money, what the character does with free time, what are the major motivators – in other words, write a backstory. Each student in the group could write an essay about some aspect of the character. Each group would make a short presentation to the whole class. Then, after all five groups have presented, advance the scenario for them by telling them some basic statistics and demographics surrounding mechanization of farm work in the South, unemployment in the South, available jobs in the North, migration of sizable percentage of black population North. Get whole class to discuss consequences of mechanization for their own group/character and for interactions between groups/characters.

    Hey, I am not a K-12 teacher, or a college history teacher or education teacher, and my school days are 30+ years ago. I don’t have children, either, so my insight into what is possible is pretty limited.

  42. Davina wrote:

    Latoya’s reply to Brandon:

    ‘Feed a kid a lie early on, chances are they will retain that lie until they find a reason to challenge it. That’s why so many of my friends went through phases of extreme anger in college – they were learning the truth after decades of lies. Not just the direct lies you refer to, but the lies of omission.’

    What Latoya said there really resonates with me. This is from a UK perspective, btw – I took History from about 2001-2003 (when I was 15-17, GCSE and AS Level), so just before university, and all I can really remember learning is:

    - British politics (Chartism, Disraeli, Gladstone, suffragettes)
    - British involvement in the WWI and WWII (the Western Front; this had a cross-over to English as we also studed war poetry; Versailles, Hitler, the Holocaust)
    - American civil war and slavery (Confederacy, KKK, slave ships from Bristol and Liverpool, emancipation, Rosa Parks, MLK). And a little bit about Vietnam.

    Apart from a brief lesson on the Eastern Front (WWII), I really cannot remember learning about any other countries – maybe we touched upon other world events but obviously not in depth. It was from my own reading – sometimes not even factual books, but fiction – that I found out about Mao in China, Nanjing, the Armenian massacre, Partition, UK-Australia child migration. My mum had to tell me about the Bangladesh Liberation War (my dad was in it, but he won’t talk about it). I just had no idea how ignorant I was about world events until I left school, and I am still angry at the way I was taught and how much was left out – how much POC were left out.

    I suppose to some extent that will always be the case – that you have to sort of re-educate yourself – but it riles me. Nowadays things are slightly better. UK kids learn about PHSE and Citizenship:

    http://www.qca.org.uk/qca_7897.aspx

    and there is now a GCSE in Bangladesh Studies, but only for international students really…

  43. Jennifer wrote:

    @ Jess
    The problem is that the ‘OMG moment’ isn’t that it means a deeper understanding of the material but that most come from a realization of omission instead.

    Take this historical fact for example: The U.S. government put the Japanese-Americans in internment camps during World War II.

    In my middle school history class, we discussed in depth when and why the Jamestown settlers, the Pilgrims and the Ellis Island immigrants came to this country.

    Yet, the above statement was the first time Japanese Americans were mentioned.

    So, did they magically appear on Dec. 7 for the purpose of having all there rights taken away? Because that’s what the omission makes it seem like.

    College students should be discussing things like the long line of legal acts used for justifying internment instead of having to learn that a lot of Japanese Americans had been in this country for a generation already.

  44. pb wrote:

    Jess,

    I think the problem with what you’re proposing is that you’ve inverted the order in which history should be taught. Instead of starting with the “facts” and moving toward a deeper understanding, it makes much more sense to start with the big picture and fill in the details.
    Teach a kindergartener about modern Native American communities (invite local speakers, take field trips, etc.), give a fifth grader a broad overview of struggles over land/reservations/relocation (17th century to present), then get into the specifics of the Jackson administration or the Dawes Act or the takeover of Alcatraz in high school.

    You said,
    So, if you told kids in say, 4th grade, “There were Native Americans here, they don’t live here now.” That’s not so bad because then you can ask the next logical question why don’t they? You need to know that disease, war and loss of land happened before you can even get to why.

    A good reason not to start with that is that it isn’t true. I’m not sure where your “here” is, but Native Americans currently live in all 50 states, so any narrative that relegates them to the past is wrong on the facts.

    Why start with the myth of the disappearing Native American? Why start with the pilgrims-n-indians story and then “deepen” it instead of starting out with a more accurate story to begin with?

    As a former elementary school teacher, I can say that you can absolutely have a meaningful conversation about slavery with an 8-year-old who has never heard of Millard Fillmore. I agree that facts are important, but you can’t expect middle-schoolers to memorize the major issues of the election of 1852 before you engage them in dialogue about broad themes like the domestic slave trade.

    Also, since you think that facts are so important, you should note that John Adams was president in 1799, not George Washington.

  45. Jess wrote:

    @Jennifer and pb

    Well, I wasn’t saying Native people don’t exist, just that they don’t happen to be around in many places — like, where I grew up, the nearest Native community is a bit of a drive (in CT or Edgartown, I’d guess) and since we don’t see them every day in a visible way, it’s safe to say, they don’t live in this particular spot, and here’s why. In fact, I could see getting into the reason why their communities tend to be a little remote. (I mean, the reservations aren’t located in New York City, they’re upstate, and with few exceptions it isn’t like most reservations were put in populations centers. Which of course, gets into the reason of why they are where they are in the first place).

    And let’s face it, they are a rather small part of the population as a whole. But then, you would have to explain why, and why there is no real equivalent of a mestizo culture, say, as there is in Mexico or other countries. That to me is the good stuff to get into.

    Also, pb, thanks for that really embarrassing catch. :-) But I think you understand the point I was making.

    Anyhow, the point I was making was that I often feel like you have to get certain things sort of right before you can get into other things. Again, maybe it was my “upbringing” in the sciences.

    And maybe it’s just the way I approach things. To me, some of those details are not only important but fascinating in their own right. And they do tell you things. I find it all kinds of fun to start with some of those small bits and build a larger picture from them. Maybe I am just weird.

    Be aware, I’m not arguing that the old stories we learn as kids about the pilgrims-indians-first thanksgiving are the right thing to have.

    It just that too often I ran into new-agey people who I felt couldn’t put a coherent historical argument together, and justified it with “well, they all lied to us in school anyway.” That’s what I am sort of wary of, you know? And ultimately a lot of it never really challenged the values they were ostensibly challenging. Or maybe I have just become a crumudgeon from over-exposure to idiots. Like getting overexposed to toxins. :-)

    You guys have helped a lot as I try to clarify my own thinking. Really.

  46. Mark wrote:

    Black History month should never disappear, until African and Black American/Australian, etc, history is taught in the mainstream. Until then, Black History month must remain, because if they don’t take the fight to the schools to teach Black history, who will?

    As more and more black historians enter academia, Black History will gradually merge with History. We’re already seeing this in American schools. I can’t say the same thing about Australian schools, in which Indigenous history is barely taught at all – mostly because the Caucasian population knows next to nothing about the Indigenous peoples, and sadly, because huge portions of Indigenous history has been lost through the generations, or no historical record remains.

    Of course, Black History is Human History, and deserves to be investigated. However, it’s not just a case of more teachers teaching black history. More effort needs to made in researching and cataloging black history. Huge portions of African History are just….blank, because records were lost or destroyed or never written down. This is also a problem in Indian history – the Indians were prolific writers, but for some bizarre reason, never paid much attention to writing historical records, instead focusing their attention of philosophical, medical and religious texts. When the Mughals took over, they started to record their achievements and Indian history gains solid footing, but before that, there are, sadly, few records.

  47. Nathan wrote:

    @Mark
    “When the Mughals took over, they started to record their achievements and Indian history gains solid footing, but before that, there are, sadly, few records.”

    Now there’s sad irony for you.

    I’m sure the Indians were delighted at this development of their affairs.

  48. Camille wrote:

    I guess we are only talking about [insert minority here]-American history, but I think people here are basing their opinions way too much on their experience of education, which, no offense, likely happened well-over a decade ago. When my parents speak of what sort of understanding of African American education I have, they’re completely wrong, but how could they not be? My father went to school in segregated Birmingham, Alabama in the 50s, my mother in DC and later its suburbs in the 60s. Most people don’t realize that a huge number (over 300,000 yearly) of students take AP US History and that our understanding of the history of blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, Jews, the Irish, Germans, every group you can think of, is controlled by the College Board. And we have to know a lot. In that way, as far as high school goes, having a certain “black history month” doesn’t matter. We have trivia read aloud on the announcements every day, but it is, by definition, trivial. Sure, most of American students only study AA history for a year, but it is an incredibly intensive year. I couldn’t enumerate all the things I learned about AAs during my year in APUSH because I really don’t care for American history, so I didn’t pay that much attention and was only awarded a 4, the second highest score, on the AP exam, but I’m certain it was an awful lot.