A post where I – again – talk about black republicans

Guest Contributor Jamelle, originally published at Postbougie and the U.S. of J

Ericka Andersen:

I continue to hear — from politicians and their constituents — that Republicans must start connecting with voters on a cultural level or they are screwed. It was reiterated again this morning by Saul Anuzis, the Michigan Republican Party Chairman running for Chairman of the Republican National Committee.

He had a story for us: On a bus ride, he struck up a conversation with two African-American women who’d just come from a church event in the city. He said they spoke of traditional values and many conservative principles they all shared. When Anuzis asked them what it was like to be black Republicans, they were taken aback. They weren’t Republicans, they said. It was clear to Anuzis that the women possessed principles of the Republican Party but that Party had not reached out to them on a level they related to.

“You can’t ignore groups of people and expect them to vote for you,” he said. Republicans have not done a good job with African-American voters, as we’ve seen. Culture has been put to the side in favor of political agenda but now there is an opportunity to change that.

Frankly, this is (or should be) obvious to anyone who has actually taken the time to analyze African-American political views. The plain fact is that there is – always has been – a natural constituency in the African-American community for conservative ideologies. And I’m not only referencing gay marriage or abortion here. Despite high rates of single motherhood within the African-American community, plenty of black people – I’d say most – are really committed to the idea of two parents and a stable marriage. Indeed, our history almost dictates that we should be; one of the great injustices of slavery was the refusal on part of slave owners to recognize slave marriage vows. What’s more, slave owners purposefully tore slaves apart, sending husbands, wives and children to separate plantations. As such, when the opportunity to marry freely came, blacks cherished it and still do as a community.

It is also worth adding that there is a strain within African-American thought which can be accurately called “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” conservatism, where “yourself” refers to the black community as a whole. Until the 1930s, blacks (at least those that could vote) were a fairly reliable Republican constituency and in the early 20th century, men like Booker T. Washington and Marcus Garvey had wide followings. Even the “Black Power” movement was focused – mainly – on black empowerment and black self-sufficiency. Hell, the famous Malcolm X image “By Any Means Necessary” could stand as an advertisement for the NRA if you simply replaced Malcolm’s image with a slightly heavy-set white guy.

Ericka says that if the GOP wants to attract African-Americans in significant numbers, it needs to adopt a new tone. And on some level, I agree. Republicans lost African-Americans for good in the 1960s, when Nixon responded to black support for the Democratic Party by embracing Southern (and for that matter, Northern) whites embittered by the Civil Rights movement. As we all know, Nixon ran against blacks using coded language couched in issues like busing and “law & order.” Ronald Reagan continued this proud tradition, by again running against blacks, this time decrying “welfare queens” and the like.

An improved tone would help; African-Americans would feel more comfortable voting for Republicans if they didn’t believe that Republicans were either A) vicious racists or B) pretending not to be vicious racists (this is only a slight exaggeration). But an improved tone is a little superficial. If the Republican Party is serious about contesting the black vote, it needs to offer policies which address the problems in the African-American community. A good deal of political science literature (”linked-fate” theory, to be precise) suggests that African-Americans don’t vote for individual interest as much as they vote for group interest, and since Reconstruction, have support the party which they believe will benefit African-American interests as a whole. Blacks were Republicans for so long because Republicans – at least until the beginning of the 20th century – were actually interested in improving the conditions of blacks. Republicans proposed civil rights and anti-lynching legislation, and directed the federal government to assist black efforts to establish economically successful communities.

I don’t want to diminish the importance of an improved tone; simply repudiating the racist element of the Republican Party (and this election reminded us that it is there) would help a good deal. This – however – is really an effort which local Republican organizations will have to pursue. For national Republicans, pursuing good policy – and framing it in a way that shows its benefits for African-Americans – is vital if they want to contest the Democratic hold on the black vote.

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Comments

  1. Jess wrote:

    An interesting exercise might be to ask: can the GOP distance itself from the racists?

    I’d argue it may well be impossible, because those mostly southern men who hated the Civil Rights Act took over the party. post-Goldwater.

    Look at who one of the contending candidates was: Ron Paul, an unreconstructed white supremacist.

    Look at the late Helen Chenoweth. Another white supremacist. David Duke.

    Al these folks were made possible by the Republican embrace of white racists in the south (which paved the way for linking with the northerners who later would join militia movements).

    At this point, I wonder if these folks are too deeply ingrained in the party structure. The moderate Republicans a la Nelson Rockefeller or Olympia Snowe are dead, retired, or marginalized.

    And since black people aren’t stupid, it seems tat it would take a lot more than just appealing on the cultural issues front. One reason white voters abandoned the GOP this year was that abortion and gays don’t matter as much to you when you have no job.

    But maybe the GOP leadership will have a re-think.

  2. atlasien wrote:

    I feel just a teeny bit sorry for African-American Republicans. They keep giving the same message to the Republican party, and the Republican party keeps diligently ignoring it.

    In fact, the Republicans have even expanded this ritual cycle to include Latinos: superficial pandering -> racist scapegoating -> superficial pandering -> racist scapegoating -> superficial pandering -> racist scapegoating -> “OMG… why did you stop voting for us all of a sudden? I thought you had FAMILY VALUES or something!”

  3. Matt wrote:

    Btw, here’s an informative post from David Schraub
    (with a different emphasis) that I think makes one especially important point for those of us who aren’t black:

    Black conservatism is a very convenient philosophy for White people, because it essentially assumes the worst in us, absolving us of our duty to overcome racism. I think our response to Black Conservatives has to be one of respect, but also of a burning desire to prove them wrong — to show them that, yes, we can and will extend the hand.

  4. KuriusJurge612 wrote:

    While there is a constituency with Black Americans, when is comes to ethics and Religious Social issues, I believe that Black americans are simply more progressive on other issues. MAny Jews for example are religiously and in terms on Mideast Foreign Policy at least conservative. However, they vote Democratic/liberal 75-80% of the time because they are more progressive on other issues, incl. social ones.

  5. UGLY PUNK GURL! wrote:

    I still think the racist white GOP base should legally change their party’s name to the RepubliKKKan Party so that we can seperate decent Republicans from racist RepubliKKKan assholes.

  6. jen* wrote:

    Just got back from break (I’m one of the poor souls working today) and we were just talking about this – at least peripherally. [on break with 2 whites, one R one D-ish] We were watching CNN and the crawl rolled up a headline that said: GOP Leaders Split Over Song (or something like that). The guy(D) says, “Split? How can the GOP be split over that? They’re not even trying to be inclusive?” The girl (R) says, “What? What song? I don’t really follow the news…”

    We tell her about it. I choose the most delicate words I can, seeing as how the guy’s almost saying that this is why everyone think Republicans are racists in the first place. And I bring up how there were SO few black people at the RNC this year – and how much coverage that got. And the fact that freakin’ Newt Gingrich is condemning the song. [I mentioned that a dude from Peter, Paul, and Mary said that even Puff (the Magic Dragon) would disapprove of the song - and we all know that dragon is high.]

    But her response was noncommittal – “I haven’t heard the song”, “I’m not really interested in hearing it.” I wasn’t looking for a fiery rejection – just a comment to the effect that the title alone shows how inappropriate it is. But I didn’t even get that.

    I don’t know if she really thinks there’s anything wrong with the song – but that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Living in SC, most black people are Democrats [no matter the values/ideas they may share with Republican philosophy] here because we know why the white people are Republicans. In some cases, they still say it to our faces. This year, especially.

    Reaching out/trying to be more inclusive is important. But I get the impression that many blacks [at least around here] would also like the party to disinvite the racist contingent. Who wants to join a club where most of the members hate you? I understand that there are times for doing so, but when there’re options, people will usually choose to be among those who at least profess to like them.

  7. Lisa J wrote:

    I have always wondered about black Republicans and thought they were a bit delusional. Not to say that the Dems are so great and I re-registered with the DC Statehood Green Party b/c I was tired of dems taking blacks, liberals, and pro-choice women for granted (all of which is me). HOwever, I seriously think their is WAY too much racism in the Republican party for blacks to flock to them in large numbers. Those Dixie-crats, Southern Dems who flipped parties in the 50’s and 60’s, the Southern strategy of that period and the early 70’s, Reagan and his welfare queens, and Bush I and his Willie Horton and cynical replacement of the great crusader Thurgood Marshall with Clarence (as my Mom calls him “Handkerchief head”) Thomas and so many other things, it would take some serious hard work and a generation or two to wipe that from most black voters mind. Even that stunt of that Republican woman’s club that so upset their handful of black members and a few white ones just shows how tone deaf that party can be towards blacks. Oh and the whole Barack the Magic Negro song doesn’t help.
    I have white friends who are Republicans and they are nice to me, most have several black friends, and for the most part seem to be really good salt of the earth folks, but in the back of my mind I always wonder a little about them for being in that party.

    Oh and another little example of how tone deaf they are, I recall maybe 8 or 9 years ago seeing some senior Republican from the Republican National Committee on some inane Sunday Morning talk show talking about how the Republican party wanted to reach out to blacks, blah, blah, blah. Less than a week later I was walking home having just gotten off the metro (subway) and passed the RNC building and they were having a party and they had musicians outside and guess what they were playing? Dixie. Man I was so pissed. I almost went in there to raise a ruckus and ask someone in charge to talk to me about how they are going to reach out to black folks playing that racist piece of crap song, loud, in public for all to hear right next to the damn train station. I didn’t. I was still too young, today I just might have done and and show them some stereotypes of an angry black woman up close and in person.

  8. Ron wrote:

    I started off as a democrat but quickly was turned off by them for various reasons. I have been a black republican for most of life.

    I do not worry about the racist fringe in the Republican Party. I come from a generation where racists whether skin heads, KKK, WAR, Aryan Brotherhood, will be dealt accordingly.

    In order to smoke out the fringe element in the Republican Party you have to be close to them to get at them. I am a firm believer in keeping your enemies close and watching their movements and strategies. I do not run away from confrontation – I run to confrontation. I have been raised that being from South Central Los Angeles.

    So, I actually have a good time with the racists!!!

  9. Jamelle wrote:

    A) Thanks for posting this! I appreciate it.

    B) I’ll add to the post that the biggest problem with the GOP’s inability to connect with African-Americans is that it has basically transferred to almost every other minority group.

    Republicans do miserably with Hispanic voters, and are doing increasingly poorly with Asian (including Southeast Asians) and Middle Eastern Americans. This wasn’t inevitable, but the racism of the Republican base has basically infected the whole party. Unless something gives, the GOP will remain a Southern, regional party for a long time.

  10. Jess wrote:

    Ron — I am not sure what you are getting at, not quite.

    How would you deal with the fact that Ron Paul was a serious contender for the nomination? He got a solid 10% or so of the GOP vote, initially (which is pretty good in a crowded field) and in some places far more.

    Or David Duke. The Louisiana GOP had to approve this guy to get on the ballot for their party — they had to take him in and allow him to run using their name.

    Or Helen Chenoweth, who represented Idaho.

    These aren’t fringe people. They were and are part of the mainstream GOP. That is, all the race-baiting wasn’t some rogue faction. It was the very heart of the party leadership. That wasn’t the case 30 years ago — there was a real power struggle within the GOP that got papered over by electoral victories — but the Rockefeller GOP, the heirs to Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, seem to be gone.

    So how do you propose to attack that? Who are the people in leadership positions you think can change it? Is there anyone in the GOP who has loudly condemned such racism and is working to put people in leadership positions to fight it?

    Name names, I want ot know!

  11. Monie wrote:

    “It was clear to Anuzis that the women possessed principles of the Republican Party but that Party had not reached out to them”

    And there is the problem: Republicans don’t actually have any principals and African Americans know it.

    The GOP pretends to have all of these so-called family values, it pretends to be the party of the working man and woman, and it pretends to understand the plight of the middle class.

    But once you elect a Republican they slam the door shut on everyone but the wealthy.

    Black people are cynical enough not to fall for the GOP okie doke. We see them talk a good game but they never walk the talk.

    That, not the racist element, is the biggest reason the GOP doesn’t garner any significant African American votes at election time.

  12. Big Man wrote:

    I touch on some of the issues facing Republicans who want to attract blacks and Latinos in this post: http://ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com/2008/11/babies-and-bathwater.html

    Eliminating racism is the first step. The next step is figuring out which conservative policies can adequately address the massive problems in Latino and black communities. Racism is an issue for Republicans, but the other issue, which you touched on, is that many of the economic policies they favor threaten black people.

  13. J wrote:

    Neither am I, Ron. What fringe elements are these? Who are these Republican crusaders against racism within the party? From where I sit, it looks like all these “fringe” elements are right in the heart of the party, and that’s what turns a lot of black people off. How can a person vote for a party who just barely tolerates you for political expediency?

    I could see if the Republicans could show that racism used to be a part of their platform, but not anymore. If the majority of their members and constituency used to be racist, but not anymore. But they can’t, because this stuff keeps happening. And keeps happening. Look at what this year or two of election madness has shown us about racism in this country, and look how many in the party, officers and all, like the guy who wrote that song, used that racism to their advantage.

    Were some Republicans offended, too? Yeah, some. But the ones who spoke out either said it was regrettable, or some other noncommital word, or that everyone else was being too sensitive. It’s satire, after all! Laugh! (I do love how people make something offensive to others and then want to tell them how they should feel about it.) They don’t understand, or care, that these harmless “satire” pieces and many of these other offhand comments that leak out are not just about black people today. They reverberate through the civil rights movement, Jim Crow, Reconstruction, and beyond. So not only is it a slight against us personally, but a slight against our history and culture. That’s why people get pissed.

    And there’s a whole other barrel of fun talking about how Republicans treat other races, and women (or “women”, as McCain put it).

    Now the Republicans could openly campaign for issues that are important to black people, and other races, and women. However, those “fringe elements” would turn out to be so big a group they’d be in trouble. So which is it – do they campaign for a more inclusive party, aggressively, or do they keep holding on to that Southern Strategy every freaking election, because they know that’s going to work for them? They have been picking the latter for quite a while now, and it doesn’t look like they’re going to stop.

  14. Ron wrote:

    @ Jess -

    I will not get in an argument regarding who is mainstream in the GOP and who is not mainstream. I do not think that is actually an issue for the GOP anyway. I consider that old hat anyway. However, I will say that moderates within the party have been marginalized because of a weak ground game.

    Now it will probably be up to POC in the GOP to establish that ground game for the GOP. For example, Hispanic Catholics, Black Evangelists, Asian Evangelists and so forth. Once this ground game is established the moderates will move out the fringe elements.

    The reality is that the demographics and geopolitics will dicate that the GOP rid the party of the antics of David Duke, and Ron Paul.

    This will take time of course because with inclusion comes responsibility.

    I would suggest that you visit sites sponsored by conservatives of color to broaden your view points. I am a conservative who regularly visits liberal websites.

    Finally, there is a reason why Prop 8 was supported by AA because they are tradionally conservative people.

    I come from the tradition of Garvey, Tubmann, Washington, Malcolm X and others who I know would not be comfortable joining the Democratic Party.

    Please be mindful that the North has probably a higher percentage of people who have ill feelings toward AA than in the South.

    You are generalizing regarding Southerners taking over the Republican party. I may be wrong but I thought Jewish political party affiliation was split 50-50. I do not think it is healthy for AA to put their eggs all in one basket.

    Note: Most black republicans I know are fully engaged in the upliftment of black people and trying to improve their communities without government oversight.

    School choice, heterosexual marriage, pro-life, 2nd Amendment, self-help, family, church, small government, community development, sound crime strategies, strong fathers, personal responsibilty are all issues that black conservatives believe will help the black community.

    As an aside, Iwork with black democrats all the time for common causes in the black community.

    Check out the African-American Leadership Summit – a rising star is someone like Mr. Lenny McAllister.

  15. Celeste wrote:

    @ ron: Did you actually list “heterosexual marriage” as opposed to just marriage in your post? No to turn this thread into another gay marriage debate but that kind of social conservative stuff just turns me off. I could even let the pro-life thing go, but that was too much. It’s too bad because I’d like to see more of an emphasis fiscal conservatism from conservatives instead of the same old social conservatism.

  16. KuriusJurge612 wrote:

    @Ron
    I get what you are saying. But the point ot this article and other incidents like the BO food stamp, the McPlain rallies, etc. aren’t just that they highlight a few fringe crazies (the Dems have them too). It is that something like that song isn’t simply condemned by their party and stamped out. Instead many in the GOP, conservatives, evangelical and yes- most Black Repubs and libertarians start making excuses. THE same kind they made (and continue to make) for Limbaugh, Palin, Ann Coulter, DAivd Duke, O’reilly, Bill Bennett, etc. every time they say something obviously offensive.

    And Jewish Party Affiliation is split the last time I heard (about 1 1/2 ago) 75% dem. 14% GOP. I don’t know if anyone knows the current numbers. There’ 9 Jewish Dem Senators (if Franken wins there be 10 and one GOP Jewish Sen.) and 2 GOP Jewish Senators- one of whom was a DEM until about 11 years ago. There’s 1 Jewish Congressman and 29 Jewsih Dem congressmen (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewcong110.html)

  17. KuriusJurge612 wrote:

    *I meant to say 1 1/2 years ago.
    BTW the 2 Independents that Caucaus with the DEms are Jewish

  18. Ashley wrote:

    Why is opposition to gay marriage (and, now, the sketchy exit results of Prop 8) always used to “prove” how fundamentally conservative Black Americans are? It’s problematic on so many levels, least of which because it presumes Black Americans “vote their race.” White American voters are Christian fundamentalist voters, Mormon voters, college-educated voters, rural voters, Catholic soccer moms. People of color are simply their race; other factors (especially the fact that homophobia is a widespread global & American problem) couldn’t possibly influence the way they vote.

    I think it’s almost funny how racism doesn’t exist/we’re all colorblind, yet everything a person of color does is because of race. We’re only individuals – not part of a monolith – when we’re successful; then, we’re an anomaly. Unless, of course, you’re an Asian-American. I won’t delve into how the “model minority” myth and elevated expectations hurt them, but it’s there.

    I don’t see people going around talking about how Americans in general (i.e. White Americans) are fundamentally conservative because gay marriage is largely illegal (unless they’re making vague comparisons to Western Europe and Canada). No one attributed overwhelmingly White Oregon’s ban on gay marriage to White people being inherently conservative. Yet, the tiny Black Californian voting population is now representative of the millions of Black people in this country (including the ones who can’t vote because they’re underage, can’t vote because they’ve been in prison, don’t vote because they choose not to). Why is the fact that more Blacks than Whites voted for gay marriage and/or adoption in Arkansas, Michigan, or Mississippi never used to “prove” Black voters are more progressive?

    I have a couple of hunches why. I think the “Black people are naturally conservative” trope benefits the Black Republicans (and White ones, too) who think we’d all join the GOP if we weren’t silent slaves to the “just as racist” Democratic Party, the Black Republicans who think not voting for Obama proves that they’re more measured and rational than the rest of us who were simply blinded by the thought of having a Black president. On the other hand, that same trope also benefits certain White liberals with superiority complexes, the ones who believe people of color don’t care about the environment or Darfur, that we need them to ease us into feminism and other progressive movements. The thought that people of color might have the right ideas before they do completely confuses them. Because they’re here to educate us on our ignorance, or something. I think the recent conversation surrounding the racist anti-whaling billboard kind of underscores this.

    Lastly, considering how people are always trying to police our reproduction, I’d wager a lot of Black women are pro-choice. And Malcolm X not being comfortable joining the Democratic party doesn’t mean he would be a Republican. If Barbara Lee ever left the Democrats to start a party for Progressives, I’d be lining up behind her.

  19. Ashley wrote:

    My first sentence was supposed to read “Why is opposition to gay marriage (and, now, the sketchy exit results of Prop Eight) always used to “prove” how fundamentally conservative Black Americans are? I don’t know how it got turned into a smiley face!

  20. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    During the presidential campaign, I wrote about why Indians and other minorities tend to vote Democratic (http://www.bluecorncomics.com/2008/10/its-economy-stupid.html). The short version might be that the white majority has the luxury of voting for whoever will kill the most Muslims or stop gay marriage cold or invite them to a prayer meeting, barbecue, or moose hunt. Minorities have to focus laser-like on jobs, healthcare, and other pocketbook issues. Each group votes accordingly.

  21. jen* wrote:

    Regarding the “Republican mainstream”: I know lots of Republicans. I live in the South, and have for most of my life. Most of the white people I know are Republicans. And they’re friendly and nice to me. When I was younger, some of them would even tell me they didn’t consider me black, or that I didn’t ‘count’ as black [when they considered black people.

    These are the folks on the ground - the voters. Not all of the white Republicans I know are racist, I'm sure. ... (I *just* thought of one who's not) But there certainly are a lot who are. They're not all burning crosses in people yards, but there are quite a few who help host the "Snow Ball" for white (only) high schoolers in my area.

    Many of them know black people, and count a few as their friends. But racism runs deep. In people and in the Party.

    This is not to say there aren't plenty of non-racist people in the South, or even in the GOP. [Also not to say that there aren't racists in the Democratic Party, cuz we all know that racism is present there, too. ] But the “Republican mainstream” is most certainly supported by the many racists among the Republican constituency.

  22. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    Re “demographics and geopolitics will dictate that the GOP rid the party of the antics of David Duke, and Ron Paul. This will take time of course because with inclusion comes responsibility.”

    Yes, because 40 years hasn’t been enough time for the GOP to rid itself of the racist bent Nixon began in 1968. Perhaps it’ll take another 40 years for the last vestiges of Republican racism to disappear. Can we expect to see the return of Abraham Lincoln’s and Teddy Roosevelt’s party in 2048?

  23. Asada wrote:

    Republicans and Democrates are two sides of the same greasy coin. Don’t pick it up.

    It is a shame this republic only has two ruling parties. The almighty corporation controls them both. They never win or lose, they just are. As we can see any candidate that doesnt get well connected with them has no chance. Even when thier policies and idea’s would make a huge diffrence in the quality of life for all.

  24. Asada wrote:

    @ celeste AND ron

    The heterosexual marriage AND pro-life topic are also a major turn off. There seems to be this belief that if there were stronger fathers more women would just flock to them. Never mind the single mothers and/or queer members of the various black communities.

    I here more young black americans are independents. Good.

  25. MoeHailstone wrote:

    Ron, there is no racist fringe to the republican party. What you see is what you get!! Much like that “cousin” of yours you’ve distanced yourself from. You know what you’re seeing.

    The Republican party is going to split in half. I remember predicting this back in 2000 while pointing out to friends why. The racist bent of the ‘pubs’ is just too interwoven in the fabric of how the party operates. Everymove they do hints that if you’re one of the minority within that party you’re an afterthought. How these people can completely “tom” it up is beyond me. There are other alternatives then to join a party that puts out an ‘Obama, the magical negro song’. Black folks in that party should be strung up by their thumbs sittin’ by and endorsing that with their “said” membership. You don’t have to back “Grillz and bling”, but you don’t have to back racists either!!!

    And the sexism….sigh I can’t believe how women didn’t just come unglued at how ugly they were treated when Sarah Palin (complete token) was thrown at them for votes. How women didnt rip up their Repub membership cards is beyond me. All this after spending the last 15 yrs bashin’ every woman of power in sight that wasn’t Condi or Sandra Day O’Conner?? Are women that blind? Yikes…

  26. L. wrote:

    “Perhaps it’ll take another 40 years for the last vestiges of Republican racism to disappear. Can we expect to see the return of Abraham Lincoln’s and Teddy Roosevelt’s party in 2048?”

    Not to pick on you Rob, but the party didn’t all of a sudden go racist in ‘68. Both parties have always been racist products of society. Even when Lincoln ran it. The Dems were just smart enough to openly capitalize on the black population.

  27. Lisa J wrote:

    Oh don’t blame Nixon only for this, Barry Goldwater and the Dixie-crats, Democrats like Strom Thurmond and the like who moved to the Republican party as more Northern liberals took over the Demoratic party bear plenty of the blame too.

  28. Celeste wrote:

    @Asada: Anti-choice turns me off, too but for some reason not as much as “heterosexual marriage” . I can understand the reasons behind the (however misguided) anti-abortion movement much more than anti-gay (seems more misguided) marriage movement.

  29. gatamala wrote:

    Ashley you’re on point @18.

    I side-eye the Prop 8/blacks are conservative theme. Man-woman het marriage is not as valued as some want to think and family values manifest themselves in different ways (blended, extended, gay, trans families).

    Asada~I’m a dyed in the wool independent. Ron has a point that demographics will affect the GOP. However, he is wrong about the fringe element – it is the heart, the soul, the fallback and the core. As NCian I’m more than qualified to speak on that. Demographics (transplants, immigrants, minorities) pushed my home state to Obama.

  30. Ron wrote:

    The Darfur and caste/slave issues throughout Africa and India resonate with many black republicans as well. I think sometimes the means justify the ends.

    I understand that many young blacks are consider themselves to be independents.

    The fiscal conservatives of the party will be making a major come back soon. I think this goes along the same line as moderates increasing their visibility. You will find that POC will have more influence within that part of the party.

    However, many black evangelists who refused to vote for Obama represent a whole different group.

    I think the main point that I need to get across is that BLACK REPUBLICANS ARE A DIVERSE GROUP with differing opinions and perspectives. I would even say that black republicans are more diverse than say black democrats.

    I voted for Obama and did not support the confirmation of Clarence Thomas. Moreover, I have never been anti-affirmative action to the point of not seeing its benefits although I disagree with its application.

  31. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

    Lyndon Johnson was concerned that his endorsement of Civil Rights legislation would endanger his party in the South, but he believed that it was the morally right thing to do. The national Democratic party supported integration and passage of civil rights legislation to correct injustices. In the election of 1968, Richard Nixon saw the cracks in the Solid South as an opportunity to tap into a group of voters who had long been beyond the reach of the Republican Party.

    With the aid of Harry Dent and South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond, who had switched parties in 1964, Richard Nixon ran his 1968 campaign on states’ rights and “law and order.” Many liberals accused Nixon of pandering to Southern whites, especially with regard to his “states’ rights” and “law and order” stands.

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/dec2002/race-d24.shtml

    It was Richard Nixon who, after the landslide defeat of Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater in 1964, sought to reorient the Republican Party to the white racist elements in the southern states. Nixon’s “southern strategy” involved an appeal to those former Democrats in the South who were disaffected by the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act by a Democratic Congress, and the enforcement of these laws by the Johnson administration.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/13/AR2005071302342.html

    It was called “the southern strategy,” started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue — on matters such as desegregation and busing — to appeal to white southern voters.

    “By the ’70s and into the ’80s and ’90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out,” Mehlman says in his prepared text. “Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization.”

  32. brad wrote:

    “Despite high rates of single motherhood within the African-American community, plenty of black people – I’d say most – are really committed to the idea of two parents and a stable marriage.”
    –Um, hello! Aren’t you implying that the belief in a 2-parent family is just a conservative ideal? I’m sure Barack and Michelle Obama would find that pretty odd considering that they are both liberals.

  33. ephraim wrote:

    “Now it will probably be up to POC in the GOP to establish that ground game for the GOP. For example, Hispanic Catholics, Black Evangelists, Asian Evangelists and so forth. Once this ground game is established the moderates will move out the fringe elements.”

    When did evangelists become non-fringe?

  34. Mel wrote:

    “Despite high rates of single motherhood within the African-American community, plenty of black people – I’d say most – are really committed to the idea of two parents and a stable marriage.”

    I’d like to point out that the percentage of white children living with a single parent increased three-fold between 1960 and 2000, while the percentage of black children living with a single parent increased around 2.5-fold in that same time period.

    That is to say that while the percentage of black children in single-parent homes is still higher, the RATE of increase is higher in white families.

    Even though we’ve stopped using the “welfare queen” terminology, our institutions (media, education, gov’t, etc.) still implicitly perpetuate the myth that black families are all about single parenthood (which oft translates, in the dominant culture, into irresponsibility and resource-drain) when in fact it’s a situation in which many families find themselves.

    Thanks, though, for pointing out some of the historical background about marriage while the US was a slave-owning nation. Helps put things into perspective.

    This forced familial separation is, to a certain degree, replicated by the prison system in the US. When we look at the rates of racial disparity in sentencing among black and white people convicted of the same crime, we see that our criminal justice system locks up black people disproportionately — another way in which black families are torn apart geographically, emotionally, etc. and prevented from building strong partnerships and role modeling relationships.

  35. Paz wrote:

    I want to give Republicans the benefit of the doubt. I really do. I know that the loudest (bigoted, racist) voices in the MSM aren’t necessarily the ones that are truly representative of the party. Colin Powell’s endorsement of Obama was perhaps one of the most thoughtful, intelligent speeches delivered by a Republican I have seen in awhile (not b/c he chose Obama, but his reasons for doing so. and for pointing out that being a Muslim is a non-issue.)
    Ashely – I am totally with you. I heard so many times whites lambasting blacks for being racist because apparently 90% were voting for Obama. I retorted, it’s racist to assume that they’re using race as the sole criterion for voting. Why not call the whites voting for McCain racist?

  36. NancyP wrote:

    Ashley, the combination of 8 and ), without an intervening space, is read as “smiley face symbol” by some programs.

    Ron, you have faith that the Republican party will stop catering to the white evangelicals who control local party apparatus and provide serious “friendly voter lists” (aka church membership lists) and get-out-the-vote volunteer labor. Not all white evangelicals are racists, but the majority are suburban, don’t put urban issues high on their list of voting priority, and regard significant numbers of black neighbors as a threat to their home valuation.

    It won’t be easy to return the Republican Party to centrist positions. The economic content of the Republican platform doesn’t benefit 90% of the population – if it did, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in currently.

  37. Daniel wrote:

    @Mel – nail on head regarding the prison system tearing apart families! It is also easy to see that Democrats and Republicans both often think the increased incarceration rate in this country is a *good* thing, and I’m not going to support any party that does.

    Also, I’d like to point out there is a difference between white children who don’t have a father-figure and black children who don’t have a father-figure.

    Namely, the media provides lots of examples of “responsible,” successful white men to emulate (professors, doctors, lawyers, politicans) yet the number of Black men who are on TV for something not related to athletics, music & dance, or gangbangin’?

    Frankly if you are lacking a parent in your life who is telling – and showing – you all the ways in which you can interact with the world and be a success, you’re at a disadvantage. If you turn to the media for examples to emulate, you’ll fare better if you’re white than if you’re black. And that, I suspect, is part of the reason why so many of our children don’t have many aspirations besides wanting to be a pro sports player, a hiphop star, or the HNIC getting rich off of the rock slinging on the block (the mythical scarface or nino brown character).

    I would also like to note that people who think the problem is gay marriage are ignorant and disgusting. The institution of AA marriage wasn’t destroyed by an LGBT conspiracy, it was destroyed by white racists seeking to further racism. People need to remember that and recognize that until there’s a world where white power/white racism doesn’t exist, the threat to your children and your family couldn’t possibly be the freedom of consenting adults to do as they please.

    To put it in political-speak: it’s the racism, stupid.

    And finally, Malcolm X as an NRA man? That’s ridiculously ignorant of both Malcolm X (and particularly that speech, which was not about guns, but rather self improvement) and the NRA being a force that banks on racism. The NRA doesn’t support everyone owning guns, they support white people owning guns, to defend themselves from minorities. That’s what their actual record reflects. So don’t dare mention them in the same sentence as Malcolm – because you know what? The NRA is 125 years old, and if Malcolm X wanted to be a member of the NRA he would have.

    I’m sick of people invoking the memory of our martyrs for their own political gain.

  38. Yvonne C. wrote:

    I must confess that I too was a registered Republican. After living in self-imposed exile for twenty years. I returned to the USA settling in the heart of Dixie. The politics, ethnic exclusion and venom which spewed from the mouths of both Democrats and Republicans was enough for me to denounce any political party affiliation and become a proud Independent.

    As long as people see the need for financial wealth at all cost and not the humanity in other people then the Republican party and the people who believe in their draconian views will never change.

    In the south they play the race card and win because of the mind set of the people of the former plantation states. The people don’t care if these tactics hurt their states nor the inhabitants including themselves just as long as their idea of the status quo is not changed nor challenged, it’s damn the rest to them.

    The culture of the Republican party is replete with individuals who believe that anyone different from them is not valued, but money power and respect are more important.

    They see no real human value in anyone other than themselves. It’s nothing more then one of the last bastions of a private men’s club.

    It’s not the question of bringing in more ethnicities but rather changing the culture and hearts of these individuals.

    They are almost child like and the act of ridiculing Obama and any other individual is just a sign of the biggest problem that they all seem to possess and that’s immaturity and an extreme case of insecurity.

    Adults parading around as men have no inherit leadership abilities. Isn’t it obvious by the chaos we are now witnessing in this country?

    The truth and nothing but the truth has risen to the surface for all to see. Their own insatiable desire for avarice has toppled and defeated them and is taking us along down the tube with them.

    As for me I’m a fighter and will always challenge their perceived authoritarian and racist rules if need be. I’m also an individualist so the ideas that others attempt to impart on me will not work because I’m capable of thinking for myself and reading the code words that they speak about.

    There is nothing different about any human being when it comes to ones family, we all want the same thing but we continue to let our differences divide us.

    When are we going to be courageous enough to fight those who seek to further divide us for monetary gain?

  39. Westerly wrote:

    ‘Non-American’ here for the record. (Black West Indian living in NZ.)

    Just want to say that while I understand the legacy of slavery creating a desire for stability it’s not an excuse for outright bigotry and rampant heterosexism. Family stability can come in many different, shapes, sizes, forms etc. Why do people think that heterosexuality is a guarantee to stability and well-being?

    How is a history of forced familial separation due to racism and capitalism redressed by legally refusing gay people the right marry (if they wish) and organise their families and lives as they see fit? And who does this actually make sense to?

    ‘Family stability’ and togetherness doesn’t equal man+wife, 2.5 kids, plus swimming pools irrespective of what the Church blithely and simplistically preaches. There IS no formula for stability and well-being.

    People demonise single parent families as if they are evil incarnate, but from my experience the biggest problem with single parent families is that women, who are usually the head of them don’t have paid equity and are often in lower paying jobs, and raising children isn’t a job for one person – or two parents for that matter.

    It’s the context and the way these families are economically postitioned and socially treated and not necessarily the families themselves that is problematic/dysfunctional.

    But then, I prefer the idea of functional, extended families where where children have a parent/s as well as grandparents, aunts, nephews and uncles to rely on. But hey – I know that’s not for everyone.

    Nuclear families are just organised, economic units and given the way that most Western societies are, they are legally and economically privileged and can be a great way of getting ahead in life – but contrary to popular belief they aren’t innately wonderful. And guess what, they’re not exempt from their share of problems and are not necessarily a shiny aspirational ideal for everyone.

    They can be sexist, abusive in a myriad of ways, poor, and least in NZ the trend among Pakeha (who tend to prefer nuclear families) for simply dumping their elderly into old people’s homes and waiting to inherit doesn’t exactly scream ‘upstanding family values’ to me at least.

    Speaking for myself, I have no use for the upper class, sexist, homophobic, narrow, English Victorian model that whites and colonised non-whites alike buy into – or the horrible social hierarchy that underpins it.

    Men on top, woman underneath, children even lower, dogs and cats invited, but gay human beings and extraneous relatives shut outside the gates. Simply citing that ‘the Church says…’ is laughable since I can’t help noticing that the ‘Christian values/conservative values’ crowds that I’ve encountered conveniently cherry pick and choose what they want to follow and enforce in the Bible, and then conveniently overlook whatever disadvantages them or inconveniences them.

    And yet they behave as their prejudices are beyond question and reproach. Any value system can be questioned, no matter how dearly held or ‘traditional’.

  40. Sewere wrote:

    You know what bothers the fuck out of me, when people claim the “2 parent household = stable life” tripe? For some of us one or both of our parents died and were we had a living parent he/she (but most likely she) who did/could not re-marry, we the children not only survived but thrived.

    Westerly said,

    single parent families is that women, who are usually the head of them don’t have paid equity and are often in lower paying jobs, and raising children isn’t a job for one person – or two parents for that matter.

    Thank you. Do you know how hard it is for a widow with children to survive in a world were her late-husband’s family has more say in his estate than she does? In the face of these struggles, our singles mothers made sure we thrived and now live fulfilling lives.

    So yeah, if two-parent household was such an “conservative” value? Why are they the ones most likely to stand against pay equity that disproportionately affect women, particularly women of color?

  41. bdsista wrote:

    Ok, when did heterosexual marriage, pro-life, (even people who get abortions don’t want to be in that situation its just the idea of criminalizing it!) 2nd Amendment,(most democrats just want people to have registered guns and you really don’t need an uzi to hunt-anyone remember Columbine?) self-help, family, church, small government,-whatever THAT means community development, sound crime strategies, strong fathers, personal responsibilty are all issues that black –people (and other people too!) believe will help the black community. This is such CRAP!!!! All these issues are important to Black people, where do Republicans get off, taking credit for all the things that most people are about??? Again, its the racism, and the White Supremacists that are the biggest problem. Its really hard for me to get with a party that supports someone like Duke who if I ran into him and his boys on a dark night I would be raped and lynched!
    Ok, no one has mentioned THIS yet, why when a white woman stays home and raises her kids she is being a good mother who puts her family first (poor or otherwise) and when a black woman stays home to raise her babies but is on welfare, she is a welfare queen? The system votes to force a mother of an infant to work in fast food and leave her child rather than have nationalized child care, so all women can go to work without having their entire damn check go for day care. Republicans are not serious about children until they are willing to have national day care for kids.

  42. Marsha Christ wrote:

    I saw a tv program a couple of years ago that surprised me mostly because I didnt realize at one time there were a lot of Black republicans.

    The program explained that after the civil war the KKK killed the blacks in the republican part and formed the democratic party. The republlicans kept quiet and maintained the status quo until approx. 1950s.

    I am a Black Native American Indian and Christian woman. My ancesters passed on land, rights and blessing from Mother to Daughter or through marriage and the Woman was the head of the household. I think the division began when the White man saw the Red man with a Black wife. Instead of passing on rights the White man told the Indian men, they should be in charge of their own household. Then land rights and blessing were passed on from Father, to Son and in the name of a Holy Ghost religion that does not recognize the necessity of a woman or as a Holy Hostess.

    I belive a lot could change in the republican party once women are given the opportunity to vote regarding the word “no” in the 1st amendment. Expecially since, women never received a vote, choice or were given a decent respect of being asked about their Religion convictions. Our history shows that those sons of guns, ran away from home and came to lands not their own, and then turned their backs on the promises as it relates to GOD.

    Now they are so corrupt with Ethics violations although they claim to be the moral majority; when they are not. Just look at how they treated Sara Palin as it relates to her Ethics violations, Her daughter’s pregnancy, and Her daughter’s boyfriend’s mother.

    I heard Micheal Steel told them We all should Lighten up. Well Mr. Steel some of US are as Light as we are going to get and I suggest you tell your fellow republicans to finish the job that yall started, by handing over all poliltical reins to your wives.

  43. Elton wrote:

    I found an interesting parallel from blacks and the Republican Party to Asian-Americans and politics in general vis-à-vis AA disenfranchisement resulting from being branded the perpetual foreigner, despite typically conservative first-generation immigrant values such as hard work and devotion to family and country.

  44. keith wrote:

    I don’t think racism stops at just the republicans it might appear so, if you look at the GOP.
    That’s like saying racism stops at only one race.
    I think it’s more evident in the republican party.
    The reason I say that is because there are democrats and republicans that are members of the same secret order groups, like the SKULL & BONES and ILLUMINATIES and all the other groups.
    Carter,Clinton and all the Bushes.
    We have to fight all racist ,oppressive organizations that don’t look out for our interest as a country.

  45. ed wrote:

    I live in Virginia a very conservative state, I grew up in New York (City). Democrats in Virginia are more conservative than Republicans in New York. Bottom line- Republicans do not want African Americans to in their party they will make no concessions for African American but will always excuse the “unintentional” slights of the party.

  46. Natalie wrote:

    I am a conservative, Christian mother of 4. I would like to invite the author and all of those who made comments here to share their views on my new website. It is a political news site, with a bit of a lean to the right, however I want to encourage everyone to have open discussion (from the left to the right.)

    I happened on this article rather late because I was researching the referenced article’s author.

    I was extremely moved by what I read, by way of comments. I think that there is a huge world of those who would consider themselves conservative who do NOT harbor the racist views which have been portrayed, apparently, by some in the Republican party. I think that you all (who have posted here) have numerous great points, and that you deserve to be heard, and at the same time, that the Republican party needs to hear what you have to say.

    I can’t guarantee that our site is the most popular–we are very new. But I do guarantee that I am honest in my intentions to ensure that EVERYONE has a voice.

    I was not aware of many of the things that you’ve cited here (that is my ignorance), and now that I am aware, I am ashamed that some of these things have gone on in modern America. Things can be changed, but it will take open and honest communication. I ask you to share your thoughts and feelings on this and other political issues at

    http://www.politicalintegritynow.com.

    You can contact me at natalie@politicalintegritynow.com

    Thank you,

    Natalie Nichols