Getting Past the Bears: Racist Abuse in Middle School and the Formation of People of Color Consciousness

by Guest Contributor (and regular commenter) Atlasien

*Warning: Strong Language*

From Protecting children from racism and racial abuse: a research review: Summary of research and findings

- Although the family structure is an important site of resistance to racism, research highlights that many minority ethnic children do not discuss their experiences of racial abuse with parents or other family members.
- Ethnic minority young people are not passive recipients of racism – they employ a range of strategies when confronted with racial abuse.
- It is important to produce integrated strategies, involving a number of agencies, to combat racist abuse both in the school setting and in the local community.
- To date, the majority of responses have focused on the victims of racial harassment, but the effectiveness of these programmes is debatable. Agencies also need to undertake both preventive and interventive programmes focusing on perpetrators.
- There is a need for approaches which are based on children’s actual experiences and perceptions rather than adult constructions of the problem.

Did they ever tell the black girls to go back to Africa?

Back then, I didn’t know. And I had no idea how to ask.

There were a few of them at my middle school, maybe around ten. For some reason, I don’t remember ever seeing any black boys. The middle school must have been between 95-99% white. It was about .001% Asian (me).

The black girls stuck close together. I had no interaction with them, with one exception. One girl was in my Honors class for a year. She didn’t fit in well. She seemed very loud and very insecure (I was quiet and insecure). One day for show and tell, she brought her little sister to school. She was obviously proud of her little sister, who was extremely cute. But the girl’s first name was the same as a certain household product and the rest of the class couldn’t stop saying how crazy that name was. Why would any parent name their kid something so crazy? They must be stupid. I watched the big sister get frustrated, almost to the point of tears. Either her family moved after that year, or she transferred to another school.

I always looked at the black girls and wondered: what did I have in common with them? I took this question very, very seriously. If I found something in common with them, maybe I wouldn’t have to feel so horribly alone. As it was, junior high school race relations felt sort of like The Omega Man/I am Legend, with me being Charlton Heston/Will Smith.

When I was five and six, we lived in Japan with my father. Then my mother moved back to America to be close to my grandparents. We started off living with them, then moved to a house in the suburbs. I quickly forgot all my Japanese, but I kept ties in other ways. I refused to eat sandwiches for lunch; I had to have my bento with noodles or rice.

I was as close to my father as is possible with a non-custodial parent in another country. We talked on the phone, I flew out to Japan in the summer, he got copies of my grades in school. My grades were always good. I really liked school. I played soccer and swam and rode my dirt bike. I liked living in America. I was American because my mom and my grandparents were American and I was born in America and I lived in America.

Then, starting about second grade, I noticed that other kids started calling me names and singing funny songs at me. The other kids started telling me I didn’t belong. I looked weird and I talked funny. I wasn’t a real American. I should go back to China. My mother had always stressed the importance of logic, reason and peaceful conflict management. I tried logic. I told them I’d never even been to China. I didn’t even know anyone from China. Nobody paid attention. I started getting frustrated and depressed in school.

When it was time for middle school, I desperately hoped I could have a new beginning. The school itself was brand new. I was going to do well, not just in grades but as a whole student. I was going to make the rest of the school proud of me. I loved doing academic competitions and I decided to donate any trophies I got to the new, empty school trophy case.

Ah, my ridiculously misplaced optimism. Let me describe a typical day. It would begin as soon as I walked to the bus stop. The other kids would glare at me and sometimes try to steal my bookbag so they could throw it in the street. One girl claimed to want to make peace with me, so she offered me some candy, which I could tell immediately was chocolate laxative. When I refused to take it she got mad and cursed me out. I learned to try and get the seat right behind the bus driver; otherwise, the other kids would turn around in their seats and pull their eyes up at the corners. In the hallways, I had groups of kids walking behind me, breathing down my neck, yelling “CHINKY CHINKY CHING CHONG”. Class was relatively safe. Then between classes and on the bus ride back home I’d face more of the same. Perhaps my locker would have a drawing taped onto it, a stick figure caricature with slanty eyes.

The nadir of the day was Physical Education. We were supposed to change into gym clothes in the foggy hell of the girl’s locker room. Bursts of powdery aerosol deodorant drifted across the room, mixing with sickly sweet hairspray fumes, stale sweat and the stench of watermelon bubble gum. The first time I took off my shirt to change into gym clothes, I was surrounded by a circle of older, larger, shrieking white girls. “You should shave your legs, you look like a gorilla!” “Look, that bitch doesn’t have any tits!” “CHINESE JAPANESE DIRTY KNEES LOOK AT THESE! HAHAHAHA!” I cringed into a corner and wrapped my arms around my chest. I never changed my clothes again. I’d just dash through the locker room and go out to the field in my regular clothes. The gym teacher used to yell at me for refusing to change, but my great respect for teachers didn’t even come close to overcoming my fear of those girls. I’d hang my head, take his lecture, then walk to the side of the field and sit next to my gym buddy, the nice girl with severe asthma. I envied her greatly and always pressed her for details on how I could get a medical excuse from PE. It never would have worked, because I was actually as healthy as a horse. I got a D in Phys Ed that year because of my refusal to change clothes. Luckily, I persuaded my parents that it wasn’t a real subject. All of this drama effectively killed my interest in any kind of sport or organized athletic activity.

One day by the field, one of the black girls came up to me. I’d seen her around before; there were still only about ten black kids in the entire school. She looked upset. She whispered that she really needed my help. She’d dropped her lunch money on the ground and she couldn’t pick it up. Today this sounds ridiculous, but in the 1980s, the fashion was for jeans so tight you had to lie down to put them on. This girl was wearing tight jeans and was quite chunky, even globe-shaped. Her story was plausible, but I was still suspicious. Maybe this was a trap, like the Ex-Lax. Or like the girls who had seemed friendly, and included me in their group one day to teach me a series of hand movements, a series that ended in a little song that went “Me Chinese, me play joke, me put poo-poo in your Coke!”

I looked around. I didn’t see other black girls, or indeed any other girls in that corner of the field. I carefully followed her to the spot in the grass she pointed at. I picked up her money and handed it to her. She thanked me profusely. I felt happy that I did a good thing that day.

Besides PE, lunch was another potentially dangerous time, but I had a haven. I sat with a group of nerds. They didn’t really invite me, but they didn’t have the social clout to actively exclude me. They talked about Dungeons & Dragons and sci-fi and horror movies. One of them had a true gift for storytelling. He spent the whole lunchtime recounting the kind of R-rated stuff I’d never be allowed to watch in a million years, like The Evil Dead and Death Race 2000. His breathless, super-detailed, sound-effects-laden scene-for-scene recounts were probably more entertaining than some of the movies themselves.

I liked sitting at the edge of their group but I didn’t really trust them. They wouldn’t initiate an attack on me, but if another group of kids started attacking me, they’d join in. I didn’t trust them but I didn’t blame them for it either. It was survival behavior. They had to protect their place in the hierarchy.

There was one Latino boy I’d seen around (when I say one Latino boy, I mean probably the only Latino boy in the school). I had an idea we might have something in common. I imagined that he was also accused of not being an American. We never talked until one day. He ran past me, by the field, and ching-chonged me. I flew into a rage and chased after him, screaming “How can you say that to me? Look at yourself in the mirror! LOOK AT YOURSELF!” He laughed nervously and kept running. I felt devastated. He’d failed even the low standard I had for the white boy nerds. He should have stayed still and listened to me but he just kept running. Maybe if I found the right words one day…

I’d given up trying to persuade people to leave me alone. I just had to take each day at a time, and survive. I didn’t have much hope left in humanity. I used to lie in bed staring out the window hoping that aliens would abduct me so I wouldn’t have to go to school the next day.

They still hadn’t managed to destroy all my self-confidence. I was still proud of my family and where I came from. I was just never able to find the words to explain to my family what I was going through.

Neither my Japanese father nor white American mother had any frame of reference for it. With my dad, if I started complaining about any issue at all, he would cut me off and talk about his hard life growing up. He was a war orphan, adopted into a village high in the mountains. Life was tough all over. Their diet was protein-poor; when they got fish, they would grind the bones to make a powder and put the powder in soup. He was the first person in his clan to go to college. To get to school, the kids had to walk for miles over a snowy mountain pass, ringing bells the whole time to scare off the bears that would otherwise attack and eat them. I learned all this stuff by heart. As practical advice, it was rather incoherent. It did, however, instill a sense of pride and toughness. Sometimes I thought to myself, at least the kids in the hallway aren’t as bad as the bears in the Japanese mountains.

My mom seemed just as incapable of understanding my problems. She gave me more advice than my dad, but none of it worked. “Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me.” Didn’t work. “Ignore them and they’ll stop”. That didn’t work either. They just took it for weakness. She told me they were petty people and I was morally superior. I knew that already, though. It didn’t help.

Just when I thought things couldn’t get worse, our bus schedule was changed. I now had an assigned seat near the back of the bus. The bus also picked up a group of three black girls at one stop. They were big, loud, mean, and scary, and they took a cue from the white kids and started messing with me.

To give you some context on what my younger self felt about black people — I felt racial differences very keenly, for obvious reasons. Black people were confusing to me; white people were confusing too, but in a different way. White people felt more familiar since I’d been living around them for many years. We’d stayed a few seasons in Kenya when I was younger, so the idea of people with black/brown skin wasn’t exactly unfamiliar. But in Kenya, black people were different from other kinds of people, and also very different from each other. They spoke different languages. They had different religions. Some of them sailed dhows and some of them rode donkeys and some of them drove cars. Some of them wore kangas and some of them wore suits and some of them wore T-shirts and shorts.

In America, it was the exact opposite. All the races were supposed to be the part of the same culture, but they really weren’t! In our particular (and nasty) little corner of America, it looked like all the black people all had less money. And black people were supposed to be all the same as each other. They talked differently from white people and they moved differently. They didn’t fit in with white people, but no one doubted they were 100% American.

I’d already drawn a few conclusions. One, white people were scared of black people. Nobody messed with the black girls the way they messed with me. I felt quite a bit of envy over that. What was their secret? Maybe it’s because they were louder, bigger, stuck together and moved more quickly. No, that was only true of some of them — certainly not the whispering girl who asked me to pick up her lunch money. But being loud and fast did help to scare white people, so it was a halfway decent defense strategy. Two, white people kept black people poor. I didn’t buy for a second that they had less money because of some universal law. White people as the cause was a lot more logical. Three — and the most tentative conclusion — maybe white people kept black people poor because they were scared of them. So what I thought of as an advantage might not be an advantage at all.

I had to walk past the three black girls to get to my seat on the bus. They put their legs across the aisle, blocking me. When I could get through, they tried to trip me. Then they turned around in their seats and pulled up their eyes at me and ching-chonged me.

I was more scared of them than I was of the white girls. I thought about it a lot.

Was it logical to be more scared?

But I couldn’t help it, I really was more scared. I felt like I could barely step on the bus anymore. There was one thing I’d never tried — the refuge of the hated “narc”. I went to the guidance counselor. As he closed the door to start our appointment, I was terrified, nervous and sweating. I’d broken a code because I was desperate, and worst of all, weak. But now that I was here, I was going to do my best. I was going to find the words. I stared at my shoes, and in a monotone, told him what was going on in the bus and what the kids were calling me.

He leaned back in his chair and put his feet on the desk and his hands behind his head. He probably thought it made him look more casual… more on a level with the kids. He said, “Let me teach you a little rhyme. It goes, sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. Can you say that?” I mumbled something and came close to crying. His sigh carried a strong note of impatience. “Do you have any other problems you want to talk about? No? Okay, just remember that rhyme. Bye!”

It was a very effective lesson about trusting authority figures.

Then one day, the three black girls cornered me during PE. I was at my usual post by the side of the field in the shade around the corner from the water fountain. They saw me and came over. I was sitting up against a wall with nowhere to go. They leaned over me. I covered my head with my arms to try to block out the sound, but they were very loud.

Ching chong ching chong ching chong ching chong ching chong ching chong ching chong.

I’d seen this behavior before coming from packs of white kids. When they see a wounded animal, the pack instinct is to circle, to make probing attacks, to see exactly how weak the prey is. I knew I had to get up, I had to move, or they would keep closing in. But I was paralyzed. I could feel my blood pounding through my veins. I’d gone beyond the point of breaking down in tears; in a few more seconds, I was going to start hyperventilating or vomiting. I had to try something. I used my last coherent breath to choke out a sentence… “Calling me ching chong is the same as me calling you a nigger.”

There was a pause. Then they spoke again, over each other. “What did she say?” “She say what I think?” “She said it! She said it!” “Did she call me a NIGGER?” “Oh yeah… I’m gonna CLIMB on her ASS and SHOW her what THIS NIGGER can DO!”

I didn’t know what an ass-climbing was, but it sounded painful. Physical pain was never what scared me, though. I had to finish what I started. I caught another breath, and said again, a little louder, “Calling me ching chong is the same as me calling you a nigger.”

Another silence, this time much longer.

“We’re sorry.” “Yeah, sorry.” “Are you OK? You need some water.”

They helped me to my feet and walked me over to the water fountain. They patted me on the back, repeated apologies, then melted away as I drank some water, recovered and stood up straight again.

If this was a made-for-TV movie about racist abuse, we would have all become best buddies. In reality, given the social environment of the school, they did the best they could, and the best I ever expected of them. From that point on, they did me the courtesy of ignoring my existence, and I ignored theirs. They had their own battles to fight. Our paths never crossed again.

The experience was traumatic, but it also gave me a sense of cautious optimism for the future. Nothing I’d said to the white kids had ever made them stop. No appeals to empathy, appeals to logic, even ones I’d practiced for days. But that one sentence that came to me on the spur of the moment worked. I’d found the right words, spoke them from the heart and mind, and someone actually heard.

It’s taken me a long time to get to this point, but I want to keep talking about these things that happened to me. I kept them quiet for a long time because I didn’t want to seem weak. I think a lot of other people who’ve experienced similar abuse feel the same way. I wanted to view that time in my life as something I overcame, something that made me stronger, something that’s past. That’s part of the truth. But so many things were taken from me as well, when none of it had to happen. Sometimes when I walk into a group of unfamiliar people, I see animals squirming behind their eyes, and I have to blink strongly and force myself back into consensus reality. I was made responsible for my own abuse, even by people who were acting out of love. This kind of stuff is still happening today, and there’s still a cloud of silence hanging over it. Who studies the effects of racist abuse on children? That study I quoted in the beginning was from the UK in 1999.

I don’t have any advice to offer in this piece. The one clear tactic that did mitigate the abuse was violent physical retaliation. After I discovered that, the kids gave me a lot more space. Check this piece from The Republic of T (“Sticks and Stones”) for a wider range of advice, but for what was within my power, violence was the only thing that worked.

My mother was eventually able to take me out of public school after 9th grade into a much better environment.

I learned many years later that the bears in the mountain pass in the stories my dad told me were somewhat of a myth. They were almost extinct in that part of Japan anyway.

You can buy bear-scaring bells today as a kitschy souvenir, but the bells were always more for the psychological benefit of humans.

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Comments

  1. Dan wrote:

    Cutest. Fucking. Bear. I’ve ever seen.

  2. sejw wrote:

    *breathless*

    Wow. Just…wow.

    I am having flashbacks to my own junior high existence: one of the only black girls in an all-white school, sporting a huge Afro (in the early 90s), thick glasses, loved being on the literary magazine team, teased everyday — “ChiaPet, ChiaPet!” It took me years before I could even listen to that commercial on TV. And more years before I could start to think of myself as a beautiful African American woman.

    The words do matter. And they stay with you for a long time. I am proud that you found the words to make (at least some) of your attackers stop and think twice.

  3. Rchoud wrote:

    Having gone to junior high predominantly made of Greek and Italian kids I can certainly relate to being the odd one out as a minority, especially in seventh grade.

    Because of beig South Asian the kids (mainly boys but some girls too) used to ask me if I rode camels and whether I noticed I smelled like curry. Thanks to the Simpsons making their debut that year I was constantly called “Apu’s wife” by everyone. Thankfully also by the middle of the year I simply had it with the constant teasing and got back at the kids one by one. With the boys I started making fun of whatever made them different (one boy was fat while another was short for example). With the girls I simply got them in trouble with the teacher (after which they calmed down and left me alone because interestingly enough they weren’t really popular just super achieving nerds!) I knew I was risking a beatdown from any one of these folks but I figured the boys wouldn’t dare fight a girl unless they didn’t care about being called sissies and the girls were too goody two shoes to really care about actually fighting me. By the time eighth grade rolled around I was never picked on again and had found my own cirlce of friends to hang out with until I graduated.

  4. Rchoud wrote:

    Oh one other thing I remember them constantly badgering me on was about confusing Islam with Hinduism. Sporting Indian accents they would make fun of me and constantly confuse the two religions; whenever I tried to explain the differences and tell them to go read a book on it they would just come back with something “Hindus/Muslims what’s the difference? You all look alike!”

  5. Monie wrote:

    “The bus also picked up a group of three black girls at one stop. They were big, loud, mean, and scary…”

    Were they really big, really loud and really scary? Were they bigger than the White kids that picked on you? Were they louder too?

    Did the tiny non-scary White kids whisper as they attacked you?

    On the one hand I might want to empathize with your story but on the other it seems like you felt about African American girls the way Whites felt about you, only you seem to make excuses for your stereotyping because you had been the victim of (race/ ethnic) attacks and also because you didn’t verbally attack them.

    Silence while harboring racist thoughts doesn’t make you any less apart of the system that you were victimized by.

  6. UGLY PUNK GURL! wrote:

    that was such an awesome, nicely written essay…

  7. Lisa wrote:

    This is amazing and beautiful and heart-wrenching. It’s so painful to read because is conjures up so much.

    Thanks for writing this and for offering it to all of us readers.

  8. angie k wrote:

    @ sejw Word. My issues were always about my hair. I sported an afro in the 4th grade. I was 9 and it was 1990. It was my mom’s idea. She’s white and always told me to be proud of my African heritage. Of course in the German/Italian town in Wisconsin that we lived in all I wanted was my hair to be straight like it was when I was little. The kids used to follow me around and joke that they’d “lost a quarter in my hair” and that they needed to look for it. No teachers ever said a word. I took to spending my recess with the nice old lady who was the playground monitor. She liked me and it kept the kids away.

    When I got into middle school the kids would call me “Tito” (Jackson). I still had poofy hair even though I tried to pull it down with hair products. They’d ask me if my “brother” Michael had really molested those kids. They didn’t stop even when I told them that my real siblings were dead. Then they called me “Afro-dite”. My mom said to remind them that she was the goddess of love so it was really a compliment. This only confused them. They never stopped teasing me because of my hair. (And of course I always realized that they were making fun of my hair because they knew they couldn’t make fun of my skin. I always knew what they *wanted* to say but they knew that they couldn’t get away with that. If I’d told a teacher that they’d made fun of my skin it might have been taken seriously. But when I said that they kept making fun of my hair every teacher just told me I was being “too sensitive” about it.)

    Thank goodness those kids went to the other high schools. My high school days were pretty blissfully empty of racial teasing. Over the years I’ve trained my hair back into something that resembles being straighter. I’ve never had it relaxed and it’s still kind of poofy. I never wear it down, though, even though everyone else says it looks beautiful. To me it still looks too much like that afro that I desperately wanted to shake when I was a kid and young teen. I understand now that all my mother was trying to do was get me to feel proud of my natural self but I really wish she would have just listened to me. In school all I wanted to do was be like everyone else, not stand out in the crowd.

    Thanks for this article. Different experiences but a lot of the same struggles.

  9. Aris wrote:

    Yeah, Monie…… She kind of lost me on that one.

    LMAO @ “did the tiny non-scary White kids whisper as they attacked you?”!!!!

  10. Lola wrote:

    kids are vicious psychopaths, you couldn’t pay me to even drive past my middle school

  11. Rachel wrote:

    If only we could stop teaching that stupid rhyme about sticks and stones. Words have hurt me more than anyone’s physical violence, and the effects are much, much longer lasting.

    Monie,
    There’s a certain vulnerability here on Atlasien’s part in admitting her own prejudice. The fact that she’s willing to admit it and discuss it candidly is a pretty good step in the right direction, I think.

  12. Mammith wrote:

    @Monie, I really don’t think the author was justifying those beliefs at all, they were a child and in a limited environment it can be easy to come to those sort of erroneous conclusions.

    My school experience was different, my school (in the UK) had a minority of white people and I noticed that a lot of the racism (picked up by everyone but originating from black people of Caribbean origin) was directed toward black people of African origin. A regularly heard insult was ‘you black African’. Also immigrants (from anywhere) got it the worst, if you had an accent you were done for.

  13. Kelvin wrote:

    I had a different experience. I MERCILESSLY insulted people who insulted me. Folks tended to leave me alone.

  14. karak wrote:

    Monie–

    you apparently didn’t read a single damn word of this whole thing, including the several paragraphs where she wonders if the black children where REALLY as scary as she thought or whether or not she was influenced by the pervading racism of the atmosphere that she was in.

    This is an experience piece, not a moral piece. Why would a young Japanese-American woman be more afraid of black girls that while girls? Because of racism. Because she was as trapped in the racist system that was torturing her, the same racist system that allowed the white and minority students to torture her as well. She admits this.

    Did you ever watch someone get tortured in school? Watch them and decide to side with the torturers, either by doing nothing or secretly thinking that if so-and-so wasn’t so weird/short/Asian/black/stupid/loud/feminine/masculine
    it would not have happened? Most likely. Then you too, have bought into the system.

    Lecturing someone on racist thoughts they acknowledged they harboured in the eighth grade (or younger) is a great way to invalidate someone else’s experience and punish them for speaking about it. *slow clap*

    To the essay author, this is beautiful. And shaming, at the same time. You could have gone to my school, and I would have been one of the D&D nerds who was too frightened to defend you.

  15. Mark wrote:

    I’m a 35-year-old bi-racial guy (African-American, Irish and English) and can relate to this story in so many ways. I grew up in England during the 70s and 80s and experienced a lot of racism when I was growing up there. My parents actually had to take me out of one school it was so bad.

    My own reactions to the various name calling (golliwog, nig nog, nigger etc.) were usually violent though. Whenever I heard those terms I just completely lost my mind and ending up hitting someone. That normally would stop them from saying stuff (at least to my face).

    As a result of this though I didn’t do that well in class and I would often get really depressed. I did talk to my parents about it and my Dad did have a conference with the people at the school but the abuse still continued.

    I was able at one point to stop another younger person of color from getting some of the same treatment but I had to threaten the bully with physical violence before he backed off. Its pretty sad that this is the only language some people understand.

    Note: I don’t think the author was trying to stereotype anyone when making the comment about the girls on the bus. I think the girls were just bigger than her.

  16. inkst wrote:

    @Monie & Aris

    I think that the description of the black girls on the bus was simply an honest depiction of how she felt, and is clear that these were her impressions as a young person. Of course a small minority group in her almost all-white school stood out. By dismissing it as simply racist, you shut down the honesty of the piece. We all live and experience a wide variety of prejudice throughout our lives. In order to have genuinely productive conversations about improving all relations (and not just those related to race or ethnicity), we have to allow for a space where it is ok to be honest about bias. How can anyone ever move past it if they don’t have the chance to get it out. Your sarcastic comment about the “tiny white kids” was counterproductive to what I saw as the spirit of the essay, which was offering up honest, personal experience about a topic that doesn’t get nearly enough attention from people who work with children and teens.

    The constant silencing that young people experience in school on a daily basis is staggering and often appears to me like systemic psychological abuse. The girl in the story is constantly silenced by her classmates and the authority figures. Please do not continue this trend.

    @Atlasien, thank you very much for sharing this story. It resonated strongly with me as I was the only person of color in my rural public school for many years. i was lucky enough to not have endured quite as much teasing, but I definitely empathize with your experience.

  17. Celeste wrote:

    As someone whose hair was set on fire in middle school, I can definetly empathize with you. The” big, loud scary” thing did catch my eye but the thing is, that does describe some of the girls at my predominantly black school who picked on me. Although, the girl who threw me in a trash can in 9th grade wasn’t loud, she was did had the big and scary thing going on, though. Ah memories… My particular crimes included “talking white”, being a late bloomer as far as puberty goes and being a bit socially awkward.
    In defense of the big, loud scary black girls who picked on me; they weren’t considered pretty and got picked on for their size so I guess the shit just ran downhill.
    Along the line of not-so-helpful parental advice, my mom told me that since they’re not doing anything for me then I shouldn’t care about what they say. Unfortunately someone that does nothing for you can still do something to you.
    I think this whole bullying (racial and otherwise) , Lord of the flies motif that still exists in schools needs to be addressed. Bullying is bad for the bully and the bullyee.

  18. AM1 wrote:

    FWIW, I can identify with a *lot* of that, and I’m white. I know there’s an extra layer of self-questioning imposed by racism, but really, we need to be investigating the effects of systematic bullying on *all* children. Just reading this post has made me physically nauseous remembering my own childhood!

  19. tybris wrote:

    I completely hear this story. In my situation it was the african american kids that made me feel welcome. They looked out for me and because of them i was left alone by the white kids. White people might be scared of African American people but white people have no problem scaring the hell out of Asian/South Asian people.

  20. Myles wrote:

    “- There is a need for approaches which are based on children’s actual experiences and perceptions rather than adult constructions of the problem.”

    I could have used this for that time I got called a chick and all of those other times people thought I was a “Mexican.”

    I like how you really tried to figure out why people were harassing you, and why it really upset you. It was interesting to read about how you weren’t sure why you were afraid of the back girls and you really went beyond the surface.

    Too bad Monie & Aris didn’t read in on it too.

  21. sejw wrote:

    @ Angie K:

    “(And of course I always realized that they were making fun of my hair because they knew they couldn’t make fun of my skin. I always knew what they *wanted* to say but they knew that they couldn’t get away with that. If I’d told a teacher that they’d made fun of my skin it might have been taken seriously. But when I said that they kept making fun of my hair every teacher just told me I was being “too sensitive” about it.)”

    Yes, yes, yes! That’s the sentiment for me, exactly! It took a long time for me to realize it, but that’s exactly what it was.

    And I, too, had the non-Black mother who tried to make me feel proud (and did her best with my hair).

    The funny thing is, in high school and all through college, I kept my hair straightened. When I graduated from college, I cut it off and went back to the style that I had in junior high (the style that had given me so much torment then). I really believe that it was a key moment for me in accepting who I was as a beautiful woman of African descent. And I did have those moments when I thought my hair looked too much like the style that had brought me so much teasing. It did take a while, though!

    I encourage you, if the folks who are saying that your hair looks beautiful when you wear it down are folks who love you and whom you trust, try listening to them and letting your hair down! Sometimes we’re so stuck in experiencing painful moments in our past that they drown out the positive reinforcement we’re getting now.

  22. Lisa J wrote:

    Wow, what an amazing essay. This really resonated with me on a lot of levels because although my experience wasn’t as bad, I was a black kid in a predominately white school. Although I’m black, I didn’t really fit in with the few other black kids, except for one or two who I usually became thick as thieves with, and though I hate to say it, to me some (not all) but some of the other black kids did seem louder and scarier and though I was always big (and can be loud when I’m with my friends and family) I very much turned inward and in my subconscious way I went out of my way to be the opposite of those sterotypes myself. So I was usually quiet as a church mouse until I knew people well, I tried to make myself small (usually hunching over to my Mother’s fury) with limited success and I tried to leave people alone and to never pick on anyone for being smaller. The result, though you would think the white kids would be afraid of me by looking at me and based on the typical sterotype of black people, they weren’t and they picked on me. “Why don’t you take a bath and wash that dirt off” “You are ugly, you don’t look like a real girl, what is wrong with your hair” It was painful. I always felt like I wasn’t cool enough for the few other black kids (even when they had always been in the same school and were as “oreo” seemingas me) especially the ones who really hadn’t always been in mostly white schools and seemed more “authentically black”. I remember when a brother and sister who epitomized the negative black sterotypes in speech, mannerisms etc moved to our town, and one other girl who’d been there for a long time but seemed very “ghetto” for lack of a better word. I remember being afraid of them, and embarrased by them and always hoped people could tell the difference between us. They were more popular than me (and the white kids were afraid of them and thought them cool all at the same time) and they’d make fun of me too and say I was ugly etc, etc. In a way they made more fun of me than the white kids. I usually had some friends though and not all of the white kids made fun of me of course but it was hard and middle school seemed to be the worst of it all. I still have the low self-esteem scars from those days, so Ireally, really can feel where you are coming from Altasian.

    I never got why the few black kids, and the greater number of Far East Asian (mostly Chinese) and Asian Indians didn’t sort of band together for our mutual protection but that never happened, (again racism and probably wanting to identify more with the white majority and due to other internal differences).

    It is really timely that you wrote this b/c thanks to Facebook, I’ve gotten back in touch with lots of people from H.S and middle school so that time has been on my mind a lot these days. Except for the really horrible kids who I don’t friend but who are friended by people I’ve friended, even though I remember the pain, it doesn’t feel as bad and not that it makes it right but I think for some reason so many kids are in pain in middle school and high school and they just take it out on each other. Racism can be one of the easiest way to take it out on others if their are minorities around but if there aren’t other races around or if they are somewhat accepted other forms of making fun, discrimination, hurtful behavior towards someone takes place. Sometimes both happen, the minorities get made fun of and white kids or whomever is in the majority buty who sticks out the most in someway gets it. I sometimes worry it is part of human nature, which is sad. Sorry for the rambling. This has me tearing up at my desk at work.

  23. Anonymous wrote:

    You are very brave for sharing this story. It is gut wrenching what happens in what is supposed to be the best years. How do we advocate for children of color in schools? Where is the place to teach children to love and care for all people and combat the racism they learn at home and in society? I remember learning that Chinese japanese rhyme at a Christian kindergarten. Thank god I didn’t know any Asians at the time.

  24. murphy wrote:

    This is an incredibly provocative piece of writing – I could literally feel what it was like to be cornered and surrounded just looking for a way out.

    To respond to Aris and Monie — I thought the author was pretty honest and insightful about the complexity of relationships between races that are oppressed and subjugated by whites. She began by wondering what they had in common, if they could be allies, and ended by realizing that, even though a group of them could be as cruel as white kids in racist mockery, they were more amenable to logic because they could connect the dots between oppressions.

  25. Jamerican Muslimah wrote:

    This essay is powerful! Even though I am not Asian I can relate on so many different levels. I was picked on by Black people for being “less Black”, nerdy and for my Jamaican culture. At the same time I was picked on by White people for being Black.

    I totally would’ve hung out with you. Most of my friends were bi-racial, from other countries and/or marked as inadequate by some group.

  26. Cynthia wrote:

    I had a different experience in middle school and high school. One girl, who was CBC (Canadian born Chinese) like me, called me white-washed, because I watched Friends and 90210. I really wasn’t part of the Chinese crowd (the school was probably 30-something to 40% Chinese in the upper grades, many of them foreign students). This, of course hurt. I didn’t really understand why she would have an issue with the TV shows I watched. She also seemed to have issues with my other interests, including courses I decided to take (I took zero senior level science courses, probably the only student of Chinese decent to do so! At least I took math!)

    No non-Asian student has attacked any Asian student to my knowledge. People only had questions which was more out of curiousity than trying to insult (usually having to do with foods or customs….the school’s visiting author was Wayson Choy one year, and everyone had to read The Jade Peony. Some kids were curious about Chinese Canadian culture after reading that. However, the book takes place in the 1940s, so much of it was really dated)

  27. Tami wrote:

    Altasien–This is searing, honest and beautiful. I swear I have linked to your post from everywhere I can, because I think everyone needs to read it.

    Monie–I blanched when I read “big, loud and scary,” recognizing that perception as race bias. But I think Altasien recognizes this, too. Part of what I found powerful and instructive about this piece is how it illustrates that people of color can be victims of prejudice, as well as victimizers of other marginalized people. Just because we experience racism does not mean we are always good allies.

  28. Seattle Slim wrote:

    @ Monie: I am black of Caribbean descent and I am not offended by her big, black comment at all. Matter of fact I felt the same way about the African American girls that abused me and my brother mercilessly for years.

    It is not a race issue per se. But I tell you what, the hell the white kids handed out was a pleasant and welcome respite from the hell the African American kids put us through.

  29. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    @all – Just popping in to say I am loving where most of you have taken this conversation. It makes me feel like we can really push the accepted narrative a bit in this series.

    Stay tuned…

  30. Seattle Slim wrote:

    To the author: Your story almost made me cry. I am 26 and the anger I have and the resentment I have for my abusers may never fully dissipate. I am grateful for it because in that regard it fueled this ambition I had to surpass no matter what. I will say that while your experience is uniquely yours, I think that a lot of immigrants to the US have this problem.

  31. TierList E wrote:

    I resonate with this post and many of the responses here.

    Despite being in the stereotypically racist South my racism rarely came in the direct variety but I got a lot of the more vague anti-PC/innappropriate questions/but isn’t it true/well you know all black people do this racism that I couldn’t do anything about because I was making thing up to whine about apparently.

    Unfortunately I was an equal opportunity push-around, especially during those middle school years (I was plain, a dork and legally blind on top of that), and didn’t develop any close friendships of any color until college.

  32. ripley wrote:

    this is an amazing piece of writing. Not only because you are sharing feelings from when you were younger including feelings that don’t make you look perfect, but also because it is so well written. You have serious skills!

    and thanks for publishing it.

  33. F. wrote:

    Atlasien, I was just wondering where you grew up (geography-wise)? And when (’80’s? ’90’s?).

    Oh, and reply #1 from Dan is probably one of the Dumbest. Fucking. Comments. I’ve ever seen. Along with Aris and Monie’s, since apparently all three of them didn’t even read/understand the Atlasien’s piece.

  34. ladymaati wrote:

    Altasien-Thank you for sharing.

    I’ve forwarded it to my son since he had a lot of racial teasing in school.

    The response from your so called guidance counseler makes me sick. It’s a real shame that racial teasing & bullying still goes on unchecked.

  35. janette7 wrote:

    WOW! Thanks for sharing your experience. Reading this has me thinking about my own middle school years. I guess I was more fortunate than some of you posters. I went to a very multicultural school in SoCal in the early 90’s. I never had any problems with any of the kids. I am black Caribbean descent (Trini to be exact) and I never was picked on, or bullied because of my race or my background. Most kids were curious if anything. There were equal numbers of Asian, Black, and Latino students…although there were very few White students. Everyone one seemed to get along. I had all types of friends who are still my friends until this day. I guess my experiences growing up spoiled me. I mean, I’m not clueless to racial problems that exist. However, I feel I’m able to look at them from a different perspective.

  36. Atena wrote:

    This was an amazing, riveting story to read. Truly. I kept thinking, ‘I remember this feeling and it’s breaking my heart.’

    As a young black girl – too dark and too nerdy by certain standards – I would look at other ‘Others’ and try to figure out why we all landed at different places in the sub-basement of the social hierarchy, wishing we could band together instead of cowering in our respective corners, licking our wounds.

    And Monie, as a black woman, I still cringe when passing groups of black adolescent girls. Whether they were physically big or not, they still loom large in my mind almost 20 years later. I think Atlasien did enough in the essay to acknowledge that her perceptions were not absolutes in character judgment.

  37. Joseph wrote:

    @atlasien
    This is beautifully written, thank you for sharing your story. In some ways our experiences are parallel, but opposite. I left a private school, where I didn’t fit in because I was a working class Arab American kid, for a public magnet school designed to desegregate the school system in my city. Fantastically, despite the fact that we were located in a ghetto neighborhood and had a city-mandated Black/White/Latin/Asian mix, we had no racial incidents in my high school at all. Zero. Zip. (And beyond “race” we had a wide class range and a significant immigrant population) Oh, we had the rest of the usual teenage crap that makes High School such a character-building experience, but no racial violence whatsoever for the four years I was there.

    It was years before I realized how unique my experience was. I still have a small knot of friends from high school and we often talk about it. The message here is a) I was incredibly lucky and 2) Anti-racist education works.

    @Monie and Aris
    Seriously? I thought the point of Racialicious was to enter into a deeper conversation about race and ethnic differences. With this post Atlasien has raised the game and your responses, which were designed to shut her down, grossed me out. Stories like these are a way of looking through each other’s eyes to gain a perspective we wouldn’t have otherwise. If you weren’t able to do that then maybe you should think about why.

    And yes, I recognize the stereotype and its potential to hurt–but I would have been able to hear your objections better if you’d written about yourselves (as in, “When I read that phrase I identified with the Black girls in your story more than you”) than turning it back on Atlasien and trying to undo her perspective.

    I think the deeper point is that African Americans sometimes adopt racist and ethnocentric tropes from the white majority ESPECIALLY when it
    comes to “foreigners.” Yes, it is sticky to talk about but after all, isn’t that why we are here?

  38. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    @atlasien–

    This is an astonishing essay! Beyond the fact that it’s well-written (but you know I feel you can write your way out of a paper bag, right?:D), what I love about it the most is the humanity with which you treated your tormenters, which is a tough thing to pull off without being all sacchrine-y happy-ending about it or just letting the cathartic bile flow before the forgiveness. You didn’t excuse what they did, but you understood why they did it. Thank you so much for this incredible post!

  39. Xiphactinus audax wrote:

    “Racism can be one of the easiest way to take it out on others if their are minorities around but if there aren’t other races around or if they are somewhat accepted other forms of making fun, discrimination, hurtful behavior towards someone takes place”
    This. Hell, I’m white and male, and still got treated like shit in Junior High and High School for being different (being fat, nerdy, loving to read, acting “wrong”, having a funny last name, etc).

    Kids are like wolves, show a little weakness and they’ll go for your throat…

  40. Rchoud wrote:

    In regard to what some posters said about not experiencing as much or even any racism from multicultural schools, I can attest to the fact that by the time I reached high school I experienced zero racial incidents during my entire four years there. My high school (which is one of the top science high schools in NYC) had a mix of East Asian, South Asian, Black, Latino and white students studying there and the population was huge to boot (up to 4000 students could be accommodated). So I was grateful for going to a such a culturally diverse school where I mad friends from various backgrounds.

    Unfortunately I’ve read recently in one of New Yorks prominent newspapers (probably the NY Times) that all three science schools have experienced a steep decline in minority student enrollment over the years. This despite the fact that the Board of Education recently instituted an intensive tutoring program to help any students prepare for these high schools’ entrance exam. Very sad to hear that to say the least.

    @atlasien- thank you for writing such a poignantly personal piece.

  41. Kheng wrote:

    This story breaks my heart, but I can relate. I never took notice of the racism as a child, but as an adult, I noticed it more.

    I remember my middle school teacher telling me to “go back to my country” because we were talking during the pledge of allegiance. I know I should have not talked or giggled when my friend talked to me, but what the teacher said to me was uncalled for. My parents still remember to this day, what the teacher said to me. My parents and I never received a formal apology from the teacher or school. I am sure he is still teaching.

    I have noticed more racist comments towards me as an adult. I work in education and a student said, “I don’t speak your language….ching chong…ching chong” to me when I was teaching. I also had to deal with my Mexican students calling my Asian students “dirty Chinese” in Spanish and I also had to deal with my lighter skin Mexican students calling my indigenous Mexican students degrading names in Spanish.

    What I do notice in my experience in education is that kids are aware when their feelings are hurt and usually tell adults when racist comments have been made towards them. I am a school counselor and I am glad that I have facilitated some deep conversations about how hateful words hurt and I unfortunately have a lot of personal stories to share with the students.

  42. thesciencegirl wrote:

    This is powerful stuff, and relateable too. I was gripped from the first sentence. I’m not emotionally up to the task of sharing my own horrific middle school experiences with little racists in training, but I can relate to a lot of this. Thank you for sharing.

  43. Katie wrote:

    I’m not proud of it, but when I heard in college that one of my junior high tormenters had died, I breathed a sigh of relief. That time was a walking nightmare, and I am so glad to be out of it.

  44. Big Man wrote:

    Amazing piece. Great job of describing your pain.

  45. Erica wrote:

    Every now and then an article comes out which makes me just sit back in amazement for a few moments. This was one such piece — simply wow. Thank you for the honesty and power with which it was written.

  46. Sharon wrote:

    I like this piece and I do think the writer was brave to write but I do sympathize with Monie. As a black woman, whether you are “big, loud, and scary” or not, you carry the weight of these perceptions wherever you go. I witnessed it during the presidential campaign when I listening to people make comments about Michelle Obama…who couldn’t be more poised and beautiful. Yet, expressed in different ways, the same kinds of perceptions were attached to her. I often wish that people could see beyond these stereotypes to who we actually are and that they could recognize that variety of personality types, opinions, interests, skills and talents that exist in our small section of humanity.

  47. atlasien wrote:

    Thanks for all the comments and sharing experiences! Sorry I can’t comment more in depth (I’m traveling now).

    The trickiest part of writing this was keeping a distinction between my adult and child self. I had to break down the distinction to really show what it felt like back then. However, some of the negative emotions I felt are obviously (and understandably) hurtful to others. I was definitely affected by racist stereotyping of black people as frightening and scary. I was even conscious of the stereotype but powerless to completely fight it off. What I didn’t mention in the piece was another moment of visceral fear… when I encountered another Asian girl the first year of high school. We avoided each other religiously; she was probably just as scared of me as I was of her. So the process of being socialized through a racial lens didn’t just include a learned fear of black people, it included internalized self-rejection… I feel like I’ve come a long way since then, thank goodness.

    In answer to some questions, this was in the 80s in suburban central Florida. The school was public and it wasn’t particularly upper-class or lower-class.

    I can’t remember where I read this, so I can’t cite, but there’s some interesting class distinctions when it comes to bullying. In lower income environments it tends to be more severe, more violent but less widespread… a fair number of kids have more important things to worry about than school social standing. In upper income environments it’s less violent (children are more likely to be socialized against physical violence) but more pervasive, something that almost everyone participates in to some degree.

    I also didn’t talk about physical violence… I eventually learned I had to fight back physically. That was a tactic that actually worked in my setting. Girls are often taught not to fight back so it took me a while to overcome that inhibition.

    The main thing bullying victims can do is to realize common interests, band together and present a united front, but silence and shame are huge barriers to that.

    Again, thanks so much for sharing your own experiences on the thread!

  48. L. wrote:

    I know I’m not a mod, and please excuse me if I’m overstepping my boundaries, but some of you could be a little bit more respectful in your response to Monie/Aris. Just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean you should call their opinions the “dumbest. fucking. responses. ever.” In my opinion, it kind of takes away from purpose of the board.
    Besides, some opposing responses that somewhat support their opinions, so they can’t be THAT invalid.

    Monie/Aris: I agree with Tami. I can def. understand feeling like that when she first brings it up, but she does go on to examine those feelings. And maybe she was using some sort of dissonance to confront those feelings, but the put is she did confront them. And she obviously knew that there was something wrong in her way of thinking, or else she wouldn’t have tried to analyze it. But it’s really important to remember that she’s speaking from her younger, more ignorant self. I don’t know of anyone that advanced in race theory at that age to be able to withhold racial stereotypes so readily.

    Atlasien: This was an amazing piece. I honestly think it’s the best blog post I’ve ever read. I think if we could highlight the commonalities in experiences more often, especially while we’re younger, it would really help in building stronger coalitions and making better allies. Maybe schools should start doing conflict resolution using similar techniques. I don’t know if any do; mine most certainly didn’t.

  49. L. wrote:

    sorry, that she read “but the *point* is she did confront them.”

  50. LTP wrote:

    Wow.
    This was so deeply troubling, shaking and terrifying to read… and yet, I’m so thankful it’s out there.

    Like an above noter, my hair was also set on fire in middle school but honestly that was one of the lesser tortures I endured in school. I won’t get into details, but suffice to say I developed posttraumatic stress disorder, and the things that were done to me would have put adults in jail for 25 to life. I’m a grown woman now, married with children and I still have panic attacks walking past teenage girls. We live near a high school and I can’t bring myself to walk near it as I go for groceries. I’m still terrified of groups of teenage girls.

    Serious bullying, whether racially motivated or otherwise, is a huge, huge problem that needs way more attention than it’s getting. Our school had “zero tolerance”, and my principal still told my mother to remove me because they “couldn’t protect” me – and this was just in a tiny farming community, only maybe 500 kids in the only high school.
    In your story you talk of the valuable lesson you learned about trusting authority figures. Not much has changed in these decades… In the face of serious death threats and violence, “sticks and stones” is still the advice of choice.

    Thank you for putting this out here.

  51. Elton wrote:

    Thank you for illustrating what it’s like to grow up “other” in a monochrome society–the loneliness of never quite fitting in with blacks or whites, the double oppression of being picked on by both, the lack of understanding from parents and other authority figures, the lack of any heroes with whom we can truly identify.

    I’d like to hear what your experiences were as you met other Asians. Woefully, I have found that Asians are not “all the same,” that as I encountered other Asians growing up, they came from such different backgrounds from mine and tended to look at me with such a competitive attitude that a sense of community and belonging was (and still is) impossible to form. Your stories of being picked on by non-Asians could just have easily been of being ostracized and alienated by other “kinds” of Asians.

    It’s not like all black or Latino people get along with each other all the time, but they often seem to have this kind of commonality that I’ve never experienced in my encounters with other Asians. It’s like there is no unified Asian-American self image and self pride other than the hurtful, racist, stereotypical image of the “other.” From the Asian male perspective, it especially doesn’t help to see so many Asian females “turn their backs” on us while we’re left with the lion’s share of the responsibility for obeying our parents and upholding traditional values. Anyone else feel this way?

  52. summer wrote:

    @ Atlasien
    i read a lot. i mean, a lot. for grad school (english), at work, for fun. and that was one of the best reads i’ve had in a while. that could be a short story. seriously. i could so see that in a collection of short stories.

    thank you for sharing that. i worry about my son who will be the only biracial, or black for that matter, child at his elementary next year. i will be certain to keep the communication open, and watch him and step if/when a need arises. i will shy away from cliches and cutesy rhymes that have no actual value. Thanks again for this piece.

  53. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    My middle school had roughly the reverse proportion of minorities. It must have been about 95% white, 4% Asian, and .001% black. (The rest were “other,” natch.)

    We did pick on people, but I believe it was mainly for physical attributes (short, fat, lame at PE), not skin color. If racial taunting was going on, I was oblivious to it. Of course, that was a long time ago, so who really knows?

    Re the solution you found–”Calling me ching chong is the same as me calling you a nigger”–I wouldn’t apologize for it. It seems like an effective technique to me. You forcefully put the black girls in your shoes, making them feel what you were feeling. That and that alone caused a (partial) breakthrough.

    I’m reminded of the time I wrote that “Redskin” magazine (http://www.bluecorncomics.com/redskins.htm#magazine) was the same to American Indians as “Nigger” magazine would be to blacks or “Cunt” magazine to women. A few women responded about like your black girls, saying things like: “Are you calling us ‘cunts’? How dare you?” Which goes to show that even intelligent adults can miss the point.

  54. EvilAngelfish wrote:

    Not to gang up on Monie and/or Aris, but did you miss this sentence while you were reading?

    “I was surrounded by a circle of older, larger, shrieking white girls.”

    Apparently, they weren’t tiny and they didn’t whisper.

    I can definitely understand how reading about young Atlasien’s perception of the black girls at her school as big, loud and scary is jarring and hurtful, but from your comments, it seems like you gave up on considering the entire rest of her post, the point of which seemed to be the examination of her perceptions. To be honest, those words gave me pause when I read them as well, but I understood them as the author’s account of her perception of girls at her school who tormented her when she was a child and not a blanket condemnation of all little black girls, past, present and future.

    I’m guessing that in the ‘Things We Do To Each Other/Things We Do To Ourselves’ series there will be quite a few things that are unsettling to read, but I’m really looking forward to the conversations the upcoming posts spawn. It would be a shame to miss the opportunity for exploration of self, society and each other by trying to shut them down before they even begin.

  55. Lainad wrote:

    Jesus.

    Atlasien, when I read that, it took me back to when I was growing up as a kid. I was you, growing up one of three black kids growing up in a rural, all white environment – with white parents, to boot. I felt what you felt and also had parents that seemed to be blind to the fact that other people could be racist because, after all, they weren’t. Feeling helpless and thinking that you had no one to turn to. It’s the worse feeling in the world.

    It’s amazing how that pain comes back. It’s a pain that will never go away.

  56. Paz wrote:

    Wow. Amazing, honest piece.
    I’m honestly astounded when I hear about stories like this one, where children are exposed to racism or act racist towards others. I find it so strange how little kids pick up on the Ching-Chong thing or think to make skin color an issue. I am fortunate enough to live in a diverse area, and in my elementary school, it sounds hokey, but race was never an issue. As a Latina, I found some commonalities with other Latinos in terms of family, but I never felt any inclusion/exclusion because of race.

    *BTW: I remember in 2nd grade some of my classsmates and I would pull up our eyes and pull them down, and sing “Chinese, Japanese.” Incidentally, the classmates who showed me this were Taiwanese and Chinese! At least we didn’t do that to taunt anyone. We just kind of sang it for no reason. That memory just occurred to me. Weird.

  57. jsb16 wrote:

    The “sticks & stones” rhyme makes me want to find a few stones to throw at the person advising it. I’ve never met anyone for whom it worked, either as internal monologue or as a response to harassment. Unfortunately, everyone who is not or has not been a victim of bullying seems to take it as Absolute Truth and extends it to the idea that saying “I was joking” means the words (and the hurt) magically vanish.

  58. DWS wrote:

    Wow, I could relate. I was bused from the inner-city to the burbs in junior high and I remember not being particularly welcome by the neighborhood kids and being intertmittently terrorized by the kids who rode the bus with me. I learned to talk my way out of many a threatened “azz whuppin” for “thinking I was cute!”

    On those unfortunate occasions when I missed the school bus and had to catch a city bus to the end of the bus route and walk the additional mile to school, it would turn into the longest mile in the world as white males would yell the most disgusting sexual epithets. Talk about fear. It is sad how young people treat each other.

  59. Dirge wrote:

    Whats the controversy with the “big, loud, mean and scary” black girls?
    Would it have been different if they were white?
    Perhaps, they were bigger than her. Perhaps they were louder. Obviously they were mean to the writer, trying to trip her and calling her names and perhaps because of that they were scary. Maybe the fact that were black intensified her fear of them but the author has acknowledged that possibility. However, that doesn’t change the qualitative experience of “big, loud, mean, scary” girls.

  60. Phrone wrote:

    Oh my God. That was….wow. I’d forgotten how evil children can be, and the neighborhood where I grew up in was really, really racist. But middle school, ugh.

    It takes a lot of courage to write something like this. It was emotionally difficult to read — I can’t imagine how it must have felt writing it. Thank you so, so much.

  61. Li wrote:

    Thank you for this piece. I can relate to this on so many different levels. This is the sort of thing I’ve never really been able to talk about (or maybe just haven’t had anyone with whom to talk about it), so I appreciate your honesty.

  62. jaden_loves wrote:

    Where does the fact that we are talking about children come in? Yes, middle schoolers have the mind to make choices for themselves. When I used to tease(not racially) I didn’t do it because my mother didn’t teach me any better, I did it because I was once a victim and I did it because other people were doing it. All in all, we are not as smart as children as we are as adults, they are children and even though it doesn’t take away the hurt(I know) or excuse the fact that they do it, they are kids nonetheless, we need to figure out and have more dialouge about why this is happening and stop it.

    Also, I just want to throw some of my personal experience in the mix. I went to an all latino high school. It was about 10 black people, in a school of about 500. I was lonely, coupled with the fact that the latino people at my school were so stupid about other cultures and they didn’t care. The administrators didn’t make it any easier. What also didn’t help was that I was one of the only three black people that got along with the latino people there.I learned a lot from my experience there, one of the main ones was that some non-black people actually make a habit out of calling each other “nigger”, like in a disrepesctful way.I went off when I heard that, I thought they were my friends.

    Last, I have some off topic questions. Has racialicious done any pieces on the use of n word and why black people feel we should be the only ones that use it? And what it means when other races use it? Also, have you all done any pieces on the definition of racism? I have a friend who every time I tell her I used to be racist, she says that I couldn’t be racist because as a minority I don’t have the power to oppress anyone. I feel that this definition of racism is wrong because to me racism means disliking people of a race, just because of their race. She says I was just being predjudiced, I say predjudiced is when you make assumptions on a race. How do you all feel about these issues? If racialicious has already done a piece on these, can you point me in the right direction?If not, I’d appreciate to see some dialouge on these issues.

    Thanks a bunch.

  63. dirkdiggler wrote:

    your story may have been centered in central florida in the 1980’s (and even today, central florida is the closest thing to a post-apocalyptic land that you’ll ever see). but this stuff happens every single day, even in nyc. or i should say, especially in nyc. take a look at virtually any website. racist, sexist, homophobic taunts are de rigeur. all for the sake of keeping it real. rosie o’donnell for chrissakes. nothing has really changed, has it?

  64. ktl wrote:

    this took me back to elementary school when racism affected me to the point of suicidal thoughts in 2nd or 3rd grade.

    incredible piece. in a way, i’m glad it’s brought up so many of our [readers'] painful memories… by reading your piece and the responses, i feel like a very accurate, even if disturbing, portrait of childhood racism is being painted. and to know that other people have felt or suffered through the same thing and understand what it’s like… it’s oddly comforting. not because i wish it on others but because, even 15 years down the road, even as a current college student, it’s nice to know that we’re not so alone.

    love. <3

  65. CVT wrote:

    As a current middle school teacher, this piece hit me on so many different levels – first, as the child I was (I definitely was told to “go back to China” – the words that came with my first physical fight at school), and now, as a teacher watching the middle school world fall out, and doing all I can to pick up the kids’ pieces.

    L. – to answer your question, few schools do anything at all to facilitate true “conflict resolution” or mediation. Sadly, they don’t have the time or resources (because those doing the job are few, have hundreds of kids on their caseload, and have inadequate training most of the time). The school I teach at actually does – kids can ask for help in mediating conflicts with each other to prevent further problems – our “counselor” has them find common ground, talk about their own part of it only (no blame), and come to an agreement.

    Of course – it doesn’t always help matters, but it often does, to at least a small degree (sure as Hell more so than “ignoring” it, or letting the words knock the crap out of them). The biggest thing is the look on a kid’s face when they talked it out with somebody they thought was picking on them, and then they realize that the kid was picking on them because they ALSO live in foster care and had drunk parents, etc. – and it as COMMON GROUND that led to the problem, and also what solved it. It’s simultaneously the saddest and most wonderful moment ever.

    I could keep going, but I feel a longer post on my own blog to cover this one (since I’m feeling the need to write at length . . .).

  66. CVT wrote:

    Oh – my “Code-switching” post actually touches on this (from a different angle) a bit:

    http://choptensils.blogspot.com/2008/11/on-code-switching.html

  67. Daniel wrote:

    Nice-heart-wrenching piece.
    I sort of relate to it as well, and judging from comments, I’m probably a bit younger than most of you all. (Recent collge grad if that helps).

    Sometimes, I wonder if it’s the parents-teachers or society at large which holds some of the kids influence. I remember reading a study in college where they research 5 year olds in a different environments (some multi-ethnic some not than exchange kids) and the kids did not bother with the physical differences…not just skin color or hair type but also height, clothing, etc. It was only after the adults told them their differences and did some other tests that the kids began to treat each other differently.

    Hopefully, people can keep working harder for the sake of closure of the pasts as well as for future generations.

  68. Bagelsan wrote:

    When I was in the 3rd grade I got chronically picked on by a bunch of kids. Everyone involved was white (including myself) except for one of the bully posse, who was black. He was one of maybe three black students in the school (mostly white and maybe 15-20% Asian) and I remember being so pissed off at him one time because he told the teacher (after I yelled at them for the constant harassment) that I was making fun of him for his skin color. My entirely truthful response was “no, I’m making fun of him ’cause he’s fat and stupid!” (Yeah, little kids are classy like that. :p)

    Now that I think about it, I’m not surprised that he picked on me. He was probably just glad to be on *that* side of the equation, no matter *who* the target was. Even though it had never occurred to me to say anything about his skin color, and it didn’t even register beyond an easy identifier in a crowd, he was probably very sensitized to that sort of thing. It’s possible that he read my comments (which I meant *entirely* personally, and not racially) as racist because he had been primed for that by past experience. (Or maybe he was just kind of a dick, and thought that the teacher would be a little more sympathetic to my fighting back if race were brought into it. I dunno.)

    I *am* happy that my childhood takeaway message from all this was that “people are evil” and not anything specific to race. I knew him well enough from being in classes together that I was able to hate him as a person perfectly well, without being a bigot. :p (Being as everyone else in the group was a white girl, I actually came away with a much lower opinion of young white girls than anyone else. Hate ‘em.)

  69. Bagelsan wrote:

    Er, “a little LESS sympathetic to my fighting back” I mean.

  70. Jasmine wrote:

    This was a very interesting piece to read and thanks for writing it. I admire your honesty when it came to how you felt about black people as a kid.

    I’m a 19-year-old black girl who grew up in Buffalo, New York. I went to a diverse grammar school but a predominately white junior high and all-girls high school. No white person ever teased or made fun of me for being black. Race just wasn’t really an issue, which was a blessing.

    The only time race got in the way is when my white friend set me up on a blind date with a white boy during junior year. But that’s a whole other – very humorous as opposed to scarring – story.

    But in childhood, I was terrorized. I hate to say that it was by other black kids, but it was. Other girls stalked me and older boys taunted me because of my hair. It was thick and long, usually braided or barretted up, but when it was out…Beware. The torment I got for my lovingly poofy hair was just insane. Till this day I’m trying to love my hair, and when I wear it wavy/curly, I check it 2984285238 million times a day.

  71. Judah wrote:

    I’m a thug and I don’t cry but this story bought a tear to my eye.

  72. Phil Deeze wrote:

    Atlasien,
    It must’ve brought back some good and bad memories to write this piece. I commend you for being honest and brave enough to do it.
    I have cousins that are black and Asian and they reported similar experiences as you (they grew up in Hawai’i) ranging from “Why is your father so big and black” to downright racist “Wow. You’re good looking AND tall, so you go the best of both parents” which isn’t really a compliment when you think about it, in other words, Asian (Japanese) women are all small and dainty and black men are big and, well, ummm….errr, black.
    Kids are shitty. There’s no other way to say it.

  73. Shannon wrote:

    This is a really beautiful and moving essay.

  74. Ike wrote:

    Wow… this was a GREAT post. I can sooo relate.

  75. tmk wrote:

    Thanks so much for sharing!!

    I grew up in England in my early childhood and faced very similar experiences (I’m Asian). Definitely had that “Chinese, Japanese” song done, and by people who were “friends” — because they thought they’d be nice and share…

    It’s scary how children can absorb racism like a sponge, thinking that it is knowledge and not ignorance.

  76. whoa.. wrote:

    Wow. that’s some experience you had growing up. I’m chinese-american and I’m glad to say that I didn’t experience as much blatant racism growing up as you did. Yes, I DID experience discrimination, racism, and indifferent teachers, but it was never to your degree and I grew up in an all white neighborhood in middle america. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of the word “chink” until high school and it was uttered by a chinese-american teenager who thought it was cool to act “gangsta”. I had to go home and look up the word in a dictionary before I understood it was a racial slur.

    Anyways, I sympathize with you because I know what its like to be the ONLY minority and the target of attacks. Although…here’s the funny thing. Growing up, I was always the outcast because I’m the only chinese kid. I was skinny, tall, flat chested and basically resembled a bean pole. Then in college, I gained some weight and managed to grow some breasts but at the same time, maintained my slender figure and all of a sudden, I’m the sexy asian girl all the guys want to ask out. So I guess I get the last laugh huh? And you being biracial probably meant that when you reached adulthood, you’re suddenly the exotic babe all the guys want. In short, you may have suffered but it’s always better to get the last laugh.

  77. En wrote:

    jsb16, I want to second what you wrote. As I see it, telling a child being bullied that they need to “pull themselves above” whatever is happening to them just shifts the responsibility to them. After all, they’re just letting the bullies actions get to them, so it’s they’re own fault if they’re upset. Adults who can’t (or won’t) deal with bullying make me furious. I remember how helpless I felt in school trying to get the girls picking on me to stop; telling me that the humiliation that I was feeling was under my control was far from helpful, to say the least.

  78. Aris wrote:

    Wow, I’m gettin’ jumped xD

    Okay ya’ll, I GET IT! lol

  79. Jess wrote:

    alatasien, I have to say this was really great. I read it and I reflected back on my own experiences growing up. The funny thing for me is that it was a mixed environment — and I was raised around pretty progressive people — but the tensions were there, and I didn’t even think about them a lot of the time because it was just background noise, the way things were.

    I also understand about being visibly different. My mother is half-Japanese, and yet my sister has blue eyes, and people used to ask if she was adopted. I wasn’t able to get along with other people either, though in my case it was probably a mild learning disability that would now be classified as low-grade Asperger’s. But more than the way we looked there were the values we were raised with, which were very different from most of those around us.

    And it made me remember how many times we’d pull out racist rhymes, jokes and all that other stuff, even though my friends were, oddly enough, a pretty diverse group. It was like this: if I was with my best friends (who were Irish Catholics) we’d say racist stuff about non-whites (and the anti-Asian stuff I remember too — reading it from you made me cringe because I said those same things sometimes in grade school) but get really offended when people maligned the Irish (remember, this is Boston circa 1975 — Protestant and Catholic were ethnic as much as religious in my ‘hood).

    Then if I we were with my Mexican friend, none of that happened, but we’d find some other group to go after. Usually black kids, but we’d make fun of “PRs” too (and yeah, the irony of a Mexican-American saying stuff like that is not lost on any of us now). But even so, “nigger” was a forbidden word, and our parents were all people who still won’t ever use it or tolerate it in their presence in any context.

    It was kind of like a color-wheel of racist insults and religious bigotry. Pick your color, pick your day. Fun for the whole family! (Sometimes I think I know how it feels to live in Yugoslavia).

    On the other hand, I got to see how different groups can insult each other and how we can all engage in a little cognitive dissonance even as grade schoolers. I’d get mad if anyone made fun of my friend for being Mexican, and mad if anyone made fun of Asians, but the “Chinese Japanese” rhyme was so pervasive (as were all kinds of things about black people and Puerto Ricans) that I never saw it as directed at anyone in particular. But I was six, seven, eight — a lot of things didn’t register until later.

    And oh, Saturday night, when as teens we’d go pick fights with the “Spanish.”

    I also learned about “passing.” Though I like to think I was a little more conscious about what that meant. I chose to see it as having many traditions to draw on and being able to fit in anywhere I needed to. It’s been a good way to view it more than once, and to some degree made me want to learn more than I might have otherwise. But it was often a bit tense having to listen to someone rant about “The Jews” or “the Japs” (usually talking about cars). Especially among a bunch of drunk teenage boys.

  80. gatamala wrote:

    This took me back.

    As a small black girl from the north end of town, I was the focus of rage for the mean scary girls (yes, they were black) from the southeast side. I NOW realize that I didn’t do anything. I represented everything they never had and wanted to be (family/mom AND dad, house, clothes, good grades, long hair). I avoided talking to the hottest kid in school (who shyly asked me to “go” with him) because I was afraid of his ex-girlfriend who was the meanest of the mean.

    The whites were definitely afraid of the kids from southeast. No, they were NOT afraid of me. They excluded me-although I lived in their neighborhood and had lives like theirs.

    What was so interesting was that these same kids who would deride me for “acting white” would grin and suck up to the “popular” white kids who gave them an ounce of attention.

    When I pass teenage girls these days, I have to make a conscious effort to say “excuse me sweetheart” and treat them like girls.

    atl & Katie: you spoke the truth on violence.

    As a grown woman, who “knows” better, when I see a school shooting I hope it isn’t random. Cause Lord knows I understand.

  81. Lolo wrote:

    This piece yanked me right back to my childhood. Not.Fun.

    I commend you for your retrospective compassion towards the other outcasts and your questioning of your own perceptions. That’s the best possible outcome of all that suffering, sad to say. To not perpetuate your experiences in a useless cycle of victimhood one upsmanship but to examine it and share it without condemnation is a remarkable feat and one that I’ve tried for in raising my children.

    Bless you.

  82. miss a. wrote:

    I still remember the name of my childhood tormentor. Every time something didn’t go his way – regardless of whether or not it was me who prevented it – he would call me a name. It wasn’t until the 7th grade that I learned that his behavior was unacceptable. I’ll never forget the girl who told me that I should never accept it. I just hope I’ll be able to tell her one day how grateful I am for showing me how to stand up for myself.

  83. Persia wrote:

    FWIW, I can identify with a *lot* of that, and I’m white. I know there’s an extra layer of self-questioning imposed by racism, but really, we need to be investigating the effects of systematic bullying on *all* children. Just reading this post has made me physically nauseous remembering my own childhood!

    Me too. Atlasien, most of all I admire your ability to try to understand your childhood tormentors. I can’t always do that myself.

    CVT, your post reminded me that the same thing goes on at least at the elementary levels at my daughter’s school– they’ve used it against at least one boy whose behavior has been rotten. Though I’ve noticed one of the girls wants to be a ‘queen bee,’ and I’m concerned about her…why are kids so rotten to each other, and why do so many adults think that’s acceptable?

  84. CVT wrote:

    @ Persia -
    Are you talking about my “Code-switching” post at my site, or my comment?

    And, as far as kids being “rotten” – I learned a long time ago that the most insecure kids, the one in the most pain, are the ones who hurt others the most. That’s been consistent from when I was a kid to now, as I’ve been working with them for years. The behaviors that come from that are NOT acceptable – but most people handle it so poorly. Everybody wants punishment meted out, but no true learning or reaching-out. If teachers and adults meted out compassion as often and willingly as they did punishment, a lot of these “rotten,” “bad” kids would be doing just fine.

    Hurt kids hurt kids. Read that line a couple times – it’s 100% true. I guarantee if you sought out the background of the most “rotten” kids, you’d find them to be the most tortured in their home life and past.

  85. Lyonside wrote:

    Atlasien, a powerful essay – it could not have been fun to go back into the headspace of that pre-adolescent and adolescent that you were. Thank you.

    I’m starting grad classes in the Spring and one of them is either Educational Psych or Creating a High School Learning Community. If the opportunity arises, could I reference this essay (with attribution of course!)?

    To whoever above who mentioned Facebook? Hell yes, dammit, I HATE that some of the people who hated on me are now friending me as if they care. Sheep, all of them.

  86. lunanoire wrote:

    What a powerful essay.

    Middle school can be hell. The social hierarchy is so important that a kid will abandon and ridicule his [former] best friend since kindergarten to move up a rung. What will it take for adults to take bullying seriously? I wonder if some adults who don’t were former bullies.

  87. Dorian wrote:

    Thanks for writing this. Very good piece. Definitely got my share of that racism in school, and it’s appalling what kids pick up, though that phrase that CVT wrote “hurt kids hurt kids” does make sense.

    Comment #3 was interesting, and made me think what real recourse for action is there for boys. I’ve read a bunch of stories where the experience was centered on girls, but the experience of course is different. Comment 76 mentioned the “exotic babe”thing (which might not be completely good, actually). But with Asian guys of course the situation is different- we pretty much remain effeminized and demasculinized in the eyes of the majority. I read this sentence somewhere and it kind of stuck: “Everyone loves an Asian girl… but nobody likes an Asian boy.”

    And the sticks and stones thing…. Yeah, really dumb. Pretty idiotic for a counselor to be taking that as an effective tool, since, you know, aren’t words important, and aren’t counselors supposed to be more keen on this psychology thing?

  88. a.eye wrote:

    Thanks for sharing this well written post. I am a first generation Nigerian American and can relate with several aspects of your story. As a teacher now, I try and make sure that my students feel more welcomed and don’t feel threatened. I also try and make sure that all the students understand that words can hurt people more than they can imagine.

    Thank you for sharing.

  89. Jess wrote:

    @CVT–
    (Also others, re: bullying)

    I am curious, how educators can deal with any of this in a concrete way.

    I used to joke that kids in school are like inmates in prison. Except criminals in prison show more self-restraint.

    But think of the similarities:

    – You are under a bunch of rules that are basically arbitrary, enforced by others

    – the enforcers of the rules aren’t people you socialize with

    – there is no fair hearing when you break the rules (really, folks, I can’t recall one time that i ever thought enforcement was fair to anybody, and it can’t be because teachers can’t read minds)

    – the minute the authority figures leave the room, bad stuff always happens

    I mean, it seems to me that with kids we see a kind of unadulterated ape-social behavior. Maybe it’s just that we’re seeing kids reflect a million years of development on the savannah and we’re just trying to channel that someplace — mostly unsuccessfully.

    A cousin of mine who is a middle school/high school teacher also studied primates in Africa. She says it’s fascinating how similar the behaviors she sees are, no matter where the kids are from or how they are raised, the same patterns keep coming up. In that sense, bullying is probably classic alpha-male/alpha female behavior.

    I wonder about this because honestly, the only way the bullying stopped (or at leas slowed down) for me was when I got violent enough that other kids thought I might really hurt them. (In my case, I cracked a kid over the head with a log when he tried to take my bicycle. I doubt I’d have felt much remorse if I seriously injured him instead of giving him a proper goose egg).

    It makes me wonder if violence really is the only language under-12s understand. Because I have yet to see an example of a kid who did understand much else.

    It’s sort of ironic, too. I taught a martial arts class for kids. The only way they didn’t bully one another was when they understood they could really, really hurt somebody. It was like only when they thought of real blood or broken bones came in did they wake up. But maybe there’s a self-selection with the kids in the class…

  90. Shannon wrote:

    Thanks for sharing your story Atlasien. You told your truth. It is appreciated.

  91. William wrote:

    It takes a tremendous amount of courage to come forth with your most personal experiences to share. I admire that as well as your humility.

    I had a very similar experience when I was a kid. However, I somehow managed to block of the eye-rhyme “Chinese, Japanese, look at these”. I managed to block out my mother talking with a store owner, who turned to me to ‘interpret’ her English.

    I always felt as if my experience with racial hatred never measured up, but your words give me to courage to recognize and legitimize my experience.

    Thank you.

  92. Bagelsan wrote:

    I learned a long time ago that the most insecure kids, the one in the most pain, are the ones who hurt others the most.

    Hmm, that’s kinda too simplistic. A lot of times that’s true, but it seems to sort of devalue the efforts of kids who *have* been badly hurt and *don’t* hurt others. It’s like saying to a kid getting bullied “oh, sure, it seems bad to you, but you clearly don’t have it as tough as the kid who just spent the entire year making your life hell.” As if the only way to prove you’ve been hurt is to hurt people. And that leads to the mentality of the kids who shoot up their schools… making it somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophesy. I know there were a couple times when I was a kid that the only reason I *didn’t* bring a gun to school and prove to those ignorant teachers how damaged I *really* felt was that my parents didn’t own one. (And aren’t girls somewhat more likely to self-harm than hurt others, in this sort of thing?)

  93. Sulyp wrote:

    Atlasien,

    Thank you for this poignant essay. Reading it really cut me so deeply with my own memories, that I had go away for a day until I was ready to type my response.

    It really brings me back to middle school when I was mercilessly bullied by black and white kids. I believe, had I had born a few years later, they may have diagnosed me with low-grade Aspergers, much like a previous poster. Although I was socially awkward and vulnerable, my intelligence was still high and I still was very aware of my feelings. I think that can be one of the worst conditions to be in.

    Of course having social difficulties like that are bad for any child. But it seems to be much more compounded in children of color who are a very small minority in a mostly white school.

    I didn’t have cool clothes, I didn’t have “good” long hair, I “talked white”, I got good grades, I grew up in a conservative family. Those things all together made me stand out in ways that other children just did not appreciate.

    Unfortunately, my parents merely added to the problem. I would go to school and either get ignored or made fun of… and then I would come home to more chastising from my parents about how unattractive I was compared to other girls, and they were embarrassed of me. From my hair, to my eyes, to my feet, to my walk, to my voice. Nothing I possessed by nature pleased them.

    I have to wonder if many kids who are in this position have to deal with struggles at home with their parents the way I did? I hardly think this is an isolated occurrence.

  94. Winn wrote:

    I haven’t been posting much on Racialicious lately, as I have been trememdously busy with work and some crises at home. Leave it to a post by atlasien to prompt me to comment. That was powerful, deep, incisive and brave writing. It connected with me on a personal level, and on a professional one. I facilitate group counseling classes with a diversion program for teens who have been arrested for the first time. Most kids are there for fighting, most fights a result of bullying. There are racial overtones to many of these bullying incidents, and we have neither the time nor the resources to deconstruct that in a meaningful and impactful way for these kids. But if you wouldn’t mind, I think your post would be a welcome addition to one of our sessions, and I would love to just devote some time to seeing what the kids think about what your honesty and self-scrutiny has taught you. I promise, I will be happy to acknowledge you, but I think an audience representative of your younger self deserves the benefit of your insight as well.

  95. Lolo wrote:

    @Jess
    My daughter went to an elementary school where the principal actually made an almost unbelievable difference in how the children behaved towards each other. She basically “brainwashed” them into believing that they all deserved to be treated with respect and kindness. Seriously, she started every single day by addressing the children with a message of affirmation and self discipline, translated into childspeak, of course. Variations of “we are all good and smart and deserving of courtesy and kindness and we treat each other the way we want to be treated”. Words do matter and when the grownups use them and make sure that the children are doing it too, it seeps in.

    She also walked the walk by actually listening to the kids when there needed to be any resolution of conflict, individually and privately and most of all, to the childrens’ perception, fairly. She then followed all of this up with her actions and attitudes with the parents. I personally know of several situations where she made it very clear that “we do not tolerate hatefulness to each other here on this campus”. To sum up, a remarkable and all too rare educator, administrator and human being. We had the great gift of her presence in our lives but it truly underlined how much of an exception she was.

    While all the bullying did not disappear, the children most definitely felt free to communicate when it happened without being labeled as tattletales and the meaner kids got the message too. I guess my point is that she showed us that it is possible to alleviate a lot of what we accept as natural behaviours.

  96. Atena wrote:

    @ Jess: You’ve piqued my child development radar. Regarding the under 12 set – no. Violence is not the only thing they’ll respond to. Kids tend to react with and respond to violence after learning that other things do not work (as you said yourself). Just because a behavior is common doesn’t mean it’s meant to be.

    Kids are products of their environments. If adults stopped providing fucked up/inappropriate/uncivilized environments, kids would beahve in less fucked-up, more appropriate, more civilized ways.

    And I don’t mean one teacher or one parent – I mean the network of adult authority figures that design the world that children move through. Adults collectively perpetuate a dysfunctional institution of competition and survival of the fittest. The result is kids who bully and lash out in order to preserve some sense of self.

    Environments that institutionalize respect, fairness and justice are far more likely to have fewer kids putting each other through hell. Sure we’re primates at the end of the day, but we’re pretty smart primates. Sadly, we tend to accept low standards for children’s brains and behavior.

  97. Kelli wrote:

    My first experience with racism was in 1st or second grade. Before moving to California we had lived in a middle class Black neighborhood in Ohio.

    I was on the monkey bars when two white boys (brothers in 6th grade) came over and started making monkey sounds. I smiled at them and pretended to be a monkey (because they had no negative connotation in my mind and I WAS after all on the monkey bars). Then one of them said “Come here nigger”. I saw that he was looking at me, so I came down and walked up to him. (Nigger meant nothing to me) I stopped in front of him and his brother pushed me to the ground and shouted “stupid nigger!” and ran away laughing. I sat there confused and feeling like something heavy had settled in my chest. I told the teacher that they called me names, but she brushed it off (perhaps I should have been more specific). When I got home I asked my Mother what “Nigger” meant and she got this look on her face that to this day, I will never forget. It was such an intense rage and pain. She then got on the phone and blessed out the principal. Did the torment end? No. I will only tell you that it escalated and finally ended when my uncle suggested that I kick them in their private parts everytime they approached me. it took all of 1 time for them to catch the drift.

    I almost cry when I think of how innocent I was.

    Life was better until we moved to a place in Southern California called Cerritos. It is predominately Asian. Two weeks after getting there, a young Asian girl was having a birthday party. She passed out invitations to everyone, but when it came to me, she said “Oh, I’m sorry but you can’t come because my parents don’t like Black people”. It culminated in me finally breaking down on a field trip because no one wanted to hold my hand. After calming down from hysteria the teacher(White) told me that I was over reacting and that they would accept me if only I TRIED more.

  98. Kelli wrote:

    By the time I got into high school, I got it from the Black kids. Before it was because I wasn’t White. Then it was because I wasn’t Asian. then it was because I wasn’t Black enough. The Latinos were out once I heard a group of them snickering about “mayates”. That was when I was a junior.

    By the time I got to be a senior, I was 5′11″ and still very thin. Looking like a bean pole didn’t help matters (The German exchange student even called me Der Storch; German for The Stork). I got called Olive Oyle, The Jolly Green Giant. It seemed that nothing on my person was left sacred. I retreated even more into the world at books with each episode and completely indulged in my bibliophile leanings.

    I graduated with a perfect verbal SAT score(Math…ehh, not so much!).

    On graduation day, I remember looking up into the sky and thinking “Fuck you, very much. I’ve had enough now. I wiill always be me..unappologetically me.”

    I have been happy ever since. There comes a point when there has been so much shit heaped upon you that you experience an epiphany. A moment of transcendence.

    I am now 30 years old. I grew into myself and used my unusual looks to pay for my college. I became a model. Elite for high fashion, L.A. Models for runway.
    Salve for the name calling.
    I study Black/Egyptian/Moor history and am so knowledgeable that I am often the subject of extreme shock.
    Salve for name calling.
    I have completely rejected Eurocentric ideals and wear my hair in long dred locks down to my waist.
    Salve for the name calling.

    Does racism affect childhood? You bet your sweet ass it does.

  99. Restructure! wrote:

    @atlasien,

    I love your comments on Racialicious, and when I saw that you had a Racialicious post, I knew it was going to be good.

    I learned ching-chonging and the “Chinese Japanese” eye-pulling rhyme from other Chinese kids, I think. Also, they made fun of me for being Chinese, because they had English first names and I did not.

    I didn’t have experiences of racial violence when I was growing up. The kids who went to my public school were mostly POC, and many of the whites were so-called “ethnic” whites. The black kids were at the top of the social hierarchy because they were considered cool, while the Chinese and Indian kids were at the bottom because we were considered nerds. The white kids were probably in the middle because they were “ethnic” whites. As Canadian kids, our perceptions of race came from watching American TV, and on American TV, black people are considered more legitimate Americans/people, while Asians are considered foreigners. (Because I watched American TV, I also believed as a child that being non-American (i.e., Canadian) made me less legitimate/valuable as a person.)

    My school wasn’t segregated among the Canadian-born kids, although we still internalized racial hierarchies. I experienced violence and bullying, but it wasn’t racial.

    Most of the racism I experienced came from the white teachers, but it was the white liberal, good-intentions kind of racism, not capital-R racism. (For example, this white music teacher told everyone in the class that the melody of the song I made sounded “Asian”, and that the lyrics came from my experiences growing up in China. However, I’m Canadian-born, and I have never set foot in China or any part of Asia. I bit back my tears until recess, because I didn’t want to cry in front of the class, as crying was a sign of weakness.)

    I never told my parents about any of my racial experiences, because I was ashamed of them for being Chinese, and I didn’t want to associate with them. I also suffered abuse at home.

    Because teachers and parents hurt me more than my classmates, I never trusted adults. In fact, I hated adults. They were so pretentious and pretended to be experts on everything, even making proclamations about what was going on in my own head.

    Your post brings back memories, bad ones, and I’m glad I’m an adult now. . . although my younger self would consider that going to the side of the enemy.

  100. Restructure! wrote:

    Wow, I think I’ve figured out where my distrust of authority figures comes from.

  101. Restructure! wrote:

    @Elton:

    It’s not like all black or Latino people get along with each other all the time, but they often seem to have this kind of commonality that I’ve never experienced in my encounters with other Asians.

    I agree that it appears this way, but this appearance is probably bullshit, i.e., out-group homogeneity bias.

    Non-reflective black people probably think that Latin@s and Asians have a sense of community that black people don’t have, and non-reflective Latin@s probably think that blacks and Asians have a sense of community that Latin@s don’t have. Of course, most white people think that non-white people in general have a sense of community that white people don’t have, and call this perceived homogeneity “culture”.

  102. G.K. wrote:

    @Atlasien

    Big props for this article—you clearly did a lot of soul-searching to get to the point where you could get this all off your chest. I have to say that in grade school and all throughout high school I was made fun of (mostly by black girls my same age) at some point or another because I was basically a shy,unpopular nerd who liked to read a lot–and like some of the other posters mentioned, up until recently I couldn’t watch a group of young black teenage girls walk toward me without thinking that they were talking about me like a dog or finding something lacking in me—even though most of the time, they’re just walking by me, not even noticing me. ( I’m African-American myself, BTW.) I’ve definitely carried these self-esteem issues with me until adulthood (even though my self-esteem has improved a hell of a lot more over the years) that I thought I’d gotten over. I even looked at this sister sitting next to me on the bus once time and had all sorts of horrible hateful thoughts about her, and later on I had to ask myself why I hated this total stranger on sight.. Mainly because she looked like a tough mean chick—like some of the girls that used to pick on me as a younger girl myself.

    I also remember the first time I was ever called a “n**ger”—by this spoiled brat pain-in-the-ass white boy on a bus I took to go to school in seventh grade ( this was the early ’80’s in the suburban Detroit area) I can’t remember what we were doing beforehand, but he just out of nowhere called me that, and I remember being stunned, and not knowing what the hell to do or say in response to that. Ironically, the next day, I’m playing some kind of board game with him like it never happened–go figure. Unfortunately, some things, when it comes to being bullied as a child, you don’t just “get over”, like some people claim you should—you think that you have, but the effects still linger whether you realize it or not.

  103. Medusa wrote:

    “Growing up, I was always the outcast because I’m the only chinese kid. I was skinny, tall, flat chested and basically resembled a bean pole. Then in college, I gained some weight and managed to grow some breasts but at the same time, maintained my slender figure and all of a sudden, I’m the sexy asian girl all the guys want to ask out. So I guess I get the last laugh huh? And you being biracial probably meant that when you reached adulthood, you’re suddenly the exotic babe all the guys want. In short, you may have suffered but it’s always better to get the last laugh.”

    This bothers me a lot. You think it’s okay that men want to ask you out because you’re a “sexy Asian girl” or an “exotic babe”? They should think that you are sexy regardless of whether your Asian or not, because otherwise they’re just othering you and don’t really care about you as a person. Just as a hot Asian chick or the hot “exotic” (how I hate that word) chick.

    Atlasien, this was amazingly written. It’s really quite disheartening that there are SO MANY of us who were victims of race-based bullying.

  104. Dinger wrote:

    I think everyone got teased back in middle school for one thing or the other. I’m Chinese in a predominantly non-Asian area and I was teased by other Asians; seriously, I was teased by my own cousins and my own sister wouldn’t even stick up for me. I was teased and bullied, and I wasn’t a saint either. The name calling sucked, the fighting to hold on to your lunch money sucked, and the fighting off the bullies in homeroom (no teacher) sucked. There were areas in the neighborhood that I didn’t go cause I’d get chased and jumped by some gang of kids. I was generally more conscious of being poor than of being Asian, because you could try not to appear poor but you were stuck looking the way you did. On the plus side, I survived childhood and now I rock.

  105. PureGracefulTree wrote:

    I have so many emotions at hearing my same experiences described by a stranger. What would it have been like if we all hadn’t been so alone in going through these things? And when folks want to congregate by race, to discuss the impact of racism in their lives, we’re called separatist…

    “I wanted to view that time in my life as something I overcame, something that made me stronger, something that’s past. That’s part of the truth. But so many things were taken from me as well, when none of it had to happen.”

    Thank you for articulating that. I’m tired of the old “well, it makes ya stronger” argument. Finding the good in a bad experience doesn’t change the fact that it was a bad experience that shouldn’t have happened.

  106. Whoa. wrote:

    In response to comment 87, yea you’re totally right. Getting exoticized is not exactly a good thing. And I would advise all women and men to avoid dating people who say they ONLY date a specific race that is not their own (because it sounds like fetishism to me.) My point in my comment, however, was that as a child, being Chinese, I was considered undesirable or uncool by my peers. I wasn’t considered to be a challenge to anyone. Then once I became an adult, all of that changed. The women my age realized that I’m competitive in terms of education, sexual desirability, and in society. And the men my age all of a sudden had collective amnesia and forgot about all the times they made fun of the asian kids when they were young. Without making it a “race thing”, I just have to mention that ALL men (and women too for that matter) like an attractive mate. Whether your mate is of the same ethnicity is not as big of a deal as whether or not she’s attractive because unfortunately, an attractive mate is one of many ways a person gains status in this society. So yes, some men may go for asian women because they think it’ll help them attain status but ALL men go for beautiful women bc it helps them gain status in one way or another, if at the very least, the envy of their peers.

    I am by no means promoting the disgusting myth that asian women are exotic sexual toys.

  107. DivergentDana wrote:

    “Non-reflective black people probably think that Latin@s and Asians have a sense of community that black people don’t have, and non-reflective Latin@s probably think that blacks and Asians have a sense of community that Latin@s don’t have.”

    This is true. I couldn’t count the times that I’ve heard black people say some variation of “If only we could work together and be unified like (insert other minority — usually a Model Minority — group here)”… and I’m like “If they only knew how much everyone else is beefing internally.”

    I had some ugly experiences in school, but because my race was the majority, I can say that at least I wasn’t racially bullied (GK’s experiences with black teenage girls are similar to mine). My older sister, on the other hand, grew up in much whiter school districts and had experiences akin to what all of you are talking about. She was at a party once where the mother of a child handed out drinks to everyone, including her. The child became squeamish and adamantly protested the drink being given to my sister, because she (the only black kid in attendance) “was dirty”. According to her, the boy’s mother gently admonished him, but with a knowing look that told her, even then, that he didn’t get that idea from out of nowhere. Ironically, my mother, out of a desire to keep her safe, implored her to play with the kids who pelted her with epithets instead of going off on her own, but how much my mother knew about the extent of the bullying is unclear.

    Side note: Don’t parents know that “ignoring it” gets you the reputation of “That punk bitch who’ll let people say anything to him/her”? And when it comes to racial bullying, for a model minority, it may even solidify a hierarchy based on stereotypical beliefs that _____ group is weak/non-threatening, and therefore easy prey?

  108. NancyP wrote:

    I agree with Dinger that middle school kids are cruel in group situations, no matter how homogeneous the group. I, the youngest in the class by a year, intellectually advanced but socially inept and shy, no interest in the other sex, the concept of sexual interest in the same sex a thought that must not be thought, dressed in practical clothes (ie, baby butch without the consciousness) – I was outcast, and I remember it even though nothing dramatic happened, not beaten up etc. I consider that I had it easy, and I saw each day at school as a gauntlet. The bullying and ostracism affected me , solidifying my tendency of social withdrawal into impersonal academics, well into adulthood. It’s amazing to me how such ancient feelings of shame and defensiveness can still rise out of memory to make me feel unreasonably insecure at times.

    If it’s hard for a white girl at an overwhelmingly white well-off school district, I have to be impressed with your tales of survival in the presence of far worse and far more personal bullying. This gives me an emotional handle on the occasional “uncharacteristic” “out of proportion” reaction to “small” and perhaps unintended (or regretted after the fact) slights by white person A being expressed as crossness with next white person happening along. (See, I told you I was socially inept – I have to think through social situations in a rather laborious manner in order to catch on).

    Thank you all for your stories.

  109. Whoa. wrote:

    I just noticed comment 103 so I’d like to point out my response in #105.

    To further clarify my point, which wasn’t made very well in my first post because I was sleepy, let me say that I would never personally date anyone who wants me simply because I am asian. In fact, I often complain to friends of all ethnicity about the epidemic of gross fetishists plaguing me with their unwanted attention wherever I go. Whenever I meet a guy who says “I love asian women”, I always run the other way. I am not saying that sexiness is attributed to the fact that I’m asian because lets face facts, there are plenty of unattractive asian people. I’m saying that I was considered undesirable in my youth BC I’m asian. Then all of a sudden I’m not. Because unlike some of my non-asian friends, I’ve still retained my youthful facial structures, my delicate frame, and unwrinkled skin , which are features considered attractive by most cultures in the world. (I don’t want to continue because it’ll just make me sound like an egomaniac.) Now you can argue that I have such features BECAUSE I just happen to have it. Or you can argue I have those features because I’m asian. It’s complicated and there are always variability in every ethnic group. And sometimes, people are attracted to certain features that are MORE common in certain races, so are these people to be condemned? In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with being attracted to someone of a certain ethnic group due to the fact that the ethnic group happens to have features that you are sexually attracted to as long as you realize that person is to be respected as any other person on earth. It’s ok to be attracted to say, african americans, because you think dark skin is sexy as long as you realize that person is a real live individual rather than a doll.

    I’ve always resented people who say “oh, you’re only considered sexy because you’re asian” because that’s a really unfair statement. It’s not like EVERY single asian woman is unanimously voted by everyone on earth as having the “sexy status”. And it’s unfair that people point out “oh, lots of guys like asians” because lots of men of all races prefer caucasian women and caucasian women aren’t penalized for it. Whites are still by far considered to be “the standard” in desirability in the world and it is a part of their white privilege. And yet white women can date men of any race without people saying “oh you’re only wanted because your man is a fetishist”.

    There are features in every race that is considered to be particularly attractive to other ethnic groups, which is why women of all ethnicity will often try to emulate it. Caucasians aren’t often dark skinned and yet they like to tan because it makes them look more attractive (how often have you heard your exceptionally pale friend lament that s/he can’t tan?).

    And because caucasians are still considered to be the “most attractive”, even though there are plenty of ugly Caucasians, you have non-whites undergoing plastic surgery to supposedly “westernize” their looks.

    (though I take issue with the term “westernize”. There are variability within all ethnic groups and some caucasians have “asian eyes” and some asians have “caucasian eyes” but the MAJORITY of people who have “asian eyes” are asians and “caucasian eyes” are caucasians.. I’m always told that I have a “caucasian nose” which offends me because everyone in my family has a prominent nose ridge and we’re all chinese. I’m also told that I’m “tall for an asian”, which is a comment I find ridiculously funny because plenty of Chinese people are tall. There are a LOT of chinese people in the world. And the Chinese-american population is really only a non-representative infinitesimally small fraction of the actual chinese population in the world.)

    Anyways, I should also mention that plenty of caucasian women also try to obtain “asian features” by making their eyes more “cat-like” or making their larger noses smaller and more delicate. Caucasian women also artificially plump their lips and statistically, most caucasian women (other than Angelina Jolie) have thinner lips. Full lips are more typical of non-white ethnic groups.

    So my point is, no, I should not be considered attractive BECAUSE I’m asian. But at the same time, I acknowledge that certain external features of mine that makes me physically attractive might be asian features, which I have because I *AM* asian. We have to be fair and frank about this.

    That said, I tend to prefer brown-haired men, which is extremely uncommon, though not non-existent, among asian guys. So should I be penalized if I date a hispanic man? And should the hispanic man suspect that I only like him because he’s hispanic? I don’t think there should be a problem with me dating a hispanic guy as long as my focus isn’t entirely on his hair and I don’t ignore everything else that makes him who he is. After all, initial attraction is always physical (nobody says, “wow, look at that guy’s sexy personality!”). But a relationship only lasts if both are compatible in all other respects.

    ps
    Sorry that you’re offended by my use of the word “chick”. I was writing casually so I didn’t think too much about my word choice. It may be hypocritical but I’m more annoyed when men use the word “chick” than when women use it. I admit, among my female friends, we all use the words “chick” and “dude” and “guys” with no ill-intention behind our words. We don’t use the word “chick” because we want to demean women. We don’t use the word “guys” because we’re ignoring the female population. And we don’t use the word “dude” because we lack vocabulary. Such words are a part of casual language. But if I was in a work or school environment, I usually avoid using these words.

  110. Aliza Hausman wrote:

    Thank you. I am sure that it was painful to share your story with us but I am glad that you did. I truly have no words that would suffice. It was amazing. I am stunned. Your painted such a vivid portrayal of being attacked endlessly because of other people’s racism.

    I hope that you publish this story in many newspapers, in many magazines, because it deserves to be heard and read by everyone. I hope that society begins to move past these stories someday but I fear that our children, especially our biracial children, will endure soome of these same atrocities for years to come.

  111. Whoa. wrote:

    @Lolo

    Wow lolo. What school are you talking about? My teachers were always the unknowingly racist type. My teachers all thought they were so great without ever realizing they’re contributing, rather than discouraging, the race conflict at school. And more than once, I’ve met white teachers who tried to lecture ME on asian culture and they would disregard me when I argued back (um…seriously…I think I’d know a little about my own background better than you.) Or I’d have teachers that while well-intentioned, would use my ethnicity to single me out in class (I had a science teacher who after commenting that Asian-Americans don’t often donate blood, looked at me in that “shame on you” way. yes. I was the only asian kid in class. And what the hell? I’ve donated blood before!! She looked at me like I single-handedly prevented all asians from donating blood. Then I had a teacher who after commenting on politics in China, looked at me like it was all my fault. Seriously, what the hell was that? I’ve never even gone to China before. And my grandfather FOUGHT the communists! Then I had a social studies teacher who said confucianism was a religion, and I counter-argued that it was a philosophy and NOT a religion in the traditional sense. And she was all offended that I thought I knew more about this than she did. Since I DID grow up in the US, I double-checked my assertions by asking my grandparents who were from China. And they too said it was a philosophy and NOT a religion. But in the end, I simply learned NOT to argue with my teachers because no good can come of it. And to this day, I have an irrational hatred for all primary education teachers. I don’t think people who majored in Education really know enough to teach the young. Often times the math teachers are only a chapter ahead of their students. But anyways, I hope I haven’t offended any teachers or education majors who frequent this website.)

  112. Jess wrote:

    Atena and Lolo –

    well, at least you give me some hope. I did go to a summer camp where they tried to emphasize mutual respect, and I have to say that it worked, to a point, given that all the counselors were hippy-types and the place was run by the Audobon Society. It wasn’t perfect, but it was the safest place for a science nerd to be outdoors.

    Y’know, when I think about this stuff now, I realize how angry I was.

    I tell people that those kids that shot up Columbine weren’t classic outcasts (that’s a bit of a myth, it is much more complicated) but when it happened, god help me, my first thought was “I should have done that. Then somebody would have heard me.”

    All the anger and hate I had heaped on me when I was a kid, the stuff I thought I had put behind me, came rushing back. And not because I was sympathetic to the victims. I identified with the perpetrators.

    Well, that required a little soul-searching on my part, I can tell you. But I challenge anybody here who was a “nerd” in school to tell me they never thought about stuff like that. If you didn’t, I’ve got the Pope on line 2, he’s been expecting you.

    Really. I was 30 at the time and thinking about what I went through in school actually made me ask myself if I wouldn’t have done the same damned thing, had I had 1) access to guns and 2) a less self-destructive mode of thinking — had I been more outer- than inner-directed.

    And it is one scary-ass moment when you see that inner demon.

    And racism only adds to the mix. How many times I had to frickin’ explain my ancestry — it became a chore, I had a whole speech memorized, and for a while I just gave up. But i never realized how mad it made me.

    In one sense, I am amazed that more kids don’t shoot up their schools.

    And this stuff is important in a larger sense. We can’t go on with savannah-thinking if we want to survive as a species. It just isn’t going to work. Somwhere, somehow, we have to change things. And soon.

    I didn’t identify with all of altasien’s experience. But I saw enough of it that it made me think seriously about these things.

    Good on her.

  113. nonogirl wrote:

    Regarding the posts on racism amongst teachers, micro-agressions, etc.

    I will never forget the time in elementary school when our class put on “The Nutcracker,” as a musical. I think I was in the third or fourth grade. Mrs. York, a plump fifty-something white woman was our music teacher glared at me as I raised my hand, hoping to be selected as the lead role. I had a good voice, I was a cute (Asian-American) kid, and I was a natural ham. She ignored me, and picked a mousy blonde. When Mrs. York asked for a back-up, I raised my hand again. This time, she picked a totally different-looking, but equally mousy brunette. Then, wonderful person that she was, Mrs. York singled me out in front of the whole class and said very angrily, “Don’t be ridiculous! Clara is white and you are ORIENTAL. From now on, class, only raise your hands if you look the part” Gasp. I wish this were the only blatantly racist episode growing up, but it definitely wasn’t.

  114. CVT wrote:

    @ Jess –
    School is so far from a “natural” situation, it hurts. If I had my way, classrooms (especially for middle-school kids) would look NOTHING like they do now. Half the problem is the structure – kids aren’t meant to be sitting still and being quiet and listening for 7 hours a day. NOBODY is meant to do that. So take all that pent-up energy, and that’s why it’s going to go off when given the chance.

    However – there ARE ways to mitigate that. I teach at an alternative school for “at-risk” kids (I hate that term with all my heart, I do). Meaning the majority of our kids are ones expelled from public school, or who got suspended regularly, or who didn’t go (either because of being bullied, or because of the trouble they got in). The “toughest” kids in this town. Deep in gangs, abusive homes, all that.

    And yet – bullying doesn’t really happen at our school. And definitely not due to the threat of violence – we have a number of kids who go to our school because they were socially “ineffectual,” as well, (basically, your typical “nerd”, I guess) and so they had trouble making friends or got picked on and chose to leave public school. So all these “tough,” “thuggish” kids with all these “shy,” socially-awkward kids – and hardly ANY bullying. And NEVER any fights.

    Why? Because the whole program is based on actually having relationships with the kids. All the staff knows every kid – and knows them WELL. We have systems in place for kids to talk to an adult about what’s bothering them – BEFORE it gets them in trouble. Kids can ask for mediations with each other (AND staff, if need be). The kids know that the adults around them actually give a sh–.

    That said, the thing that works the best? Teachers that actually speak the kids’ language. Nobody would say the majority of the staff at my school are “hippie” types. If anything, most of us are relatively edgy and kind of mindlessly blow off “hippie” types (which is its own form of prejudice, but this isn’t where I’m going with that now). Those of us who actually get where the kids are coming from can then turn it around and really TEACH the kids about social interactions. Why bullying is not okay. What it feels like. Why we should walk how we want to see other people walk (and we have an active, daily social skills-type homeroom class). Every teacher is also in regular contact with our “homeroom’s” parents and family.

    Relationships change everything.

    That said – the school system is still f-ed, and how we try to make our kids “learn” in this country is ridiculous.

    Oh – las thing: data has proven that the most effective behavior-changer is POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT. Not punishment. So kids getting filled up with positive comments at school makes them want to keep going and improve. Punishment? Made them drop out and end up going to my school. So I would argue that violence is definitely NOT the most effective solution for kids (although, in some cases, it definitely makes a point).

  115. MoeHailstone wrote:

    Might be the best essay I’ve ever read.

    However I do agree with L about many of you being unfair to Monie and Arie for being put back for the “big, scary, black” thing since we’ve heard it forever. What happens is you build a defense mechanism that your mind shuts something off immediately when it goes down a road you are no longer willing to go down. Thats their defense mechanism…understand that.

    So sistahs I understand your response.

    I did appreciate the piece and thinks that it grabs at any who felt pain in those years racism or otherwise. You recognized the feelings cause they came flooding back as you read it..

    Thanks for having the clarity to write this in adulthood

  116. Persia wrote:

    @CVT– your post in the thread. I hadn’t read the ‘code switching’ post when I commented.

  117. Lolo wrote:

    We live in southeastern Pennsylvania, a couple of hours outside of Philly and we have lots of racial problems here. Sizeable latino population, smattering of other ethnicities, long time residents are very insular and resentful of the changes and/or negatives brought on by recent newcomers.

    My childrens’ teachers were brought up very short during a conference when I pointed out that some of the traits that they were pointing out as negatives were cultural and that while I may speak perfectly idiomatic english, I am in fact an immigrant and that my kids could be considered bicultural.

    I shrug off most of the racial preconceptions that I encounter here but I do keep as close of an ear as possible as far as my kids are concerned.

    The comments to this piece have reminded me how far we’ve come in some ways but how much we need to monitor what children experience and then carry with them into adulthood.

    Whoever said “hurt children hurt children” really did sum it up and they also usually grow up to be hurt adults who teach children how to hurt, etc. “Don’t perpetuate the pain” is a rule we strive to live by in our family.

  118. Adrianna wrote:

    Oh my God It’s like reliving it all again.I’m so sorry about what happened to you! It took a lot of work to get over the psychological abuse.
    the residual of those years is that i still think that some people are out to get me. Thank you for writing this Altasian !

    @Monie and Aris

    As black Haitian women who went to school in the state the whole “They were big, loud, mean, and scary… ”
    why are you offended? it’s not personal it’s what she went through and you are denying her personal experience. Not cool. at my school I’m sorry to say but some of the black girls and black boys were in fact
    a little more aggressive in their taunting than some of the other people. ( one boy even threaten me physical violence). I graduated in 04.
    I think some American regardless of color, racial background can perpetrate racist and xenophobic attitude towards foreigners

    White white kids it was more subtle racism than anything else. nothing outright. It depends where you are in upstate NY.

    @Lola
    I could not agree with you more. Middle school , high school even primary school is like a Milgram experiment. Psychos indeed I could not wait to graduate and get the hell out. It’s truly a soul sucking place.
    In the adult real world it would be harassment and abuse. they would go to jail for some of that sh*t they do!

    @Jamericah
    My experience mirrors yours. I would love to see more research done on the subject of young immigrants in America how they cope in school

    I went to middle school in Haiti and was teased because 1 because of colorism I was too dark, my hair too nappy, I was too dark to be considered beautiful.

    I wasn’t considered pretty. 2 because of class in the all girl school some of the girls were wealthier than me.They teased me mercifully because of it. criticized my shoes ,uniform, food. some time the whole class of 40 was against me!

    @ lisa J
    I fell you and it breaks my heart. some girl who was hateful to me tried to befriend me on facebook. I so ignored her.What nerve she has!

  119. Eisoj5 wrote:

    This is an amazing essay that brought me to tears, and made me reflect on how lucky I was to be an Asian kid growing up in an area that was increasingly Asian as well. Thank you for sharing this with us.

  120. Monia wrote:

    Thank you for sharing. You gave me a different perspective to think about, but I can relate as well. I was the black girl in the black school that got picked on for being black. It was crazy, lol. The abuse only lessened after I got into a fight with my main bully, a girl that was darker than me and loved calling me black and ugly. After that people still tormented me, but she at least did it from afar. It was not until Spike Lee’s School Daze came out and all the girls said that they were wannabes and I was a gigabo that I began to understand their “hatred” of me had less to do with me and more to do with what was going on in their own heads….I pity them more than resent them now…. I tend to say a different version of the sticks and stones rhyme…sticks and stones may break my bones but words may break my heart….

  121. AWW wrote:

    I totally empathize with your essay. Racism wasn’t THAT severe, but a couple of white guys were like that in elementary school. Then I went to middle school and there was practically no racism, and then I moved to Georgia, and people were more racist down there, but they weren’t THAT racist. I had a bunch of white&black&Hispanic friends, and my school was 20% Asian so it wasn’t that harsh. Being called a ching chong was another thing, but I’d usually call them racist names back and they’d just back off. I still feel a uncomfortable around white people I don’t know, especially Southerners/Georgian whites-like I subconsciously think they’re racist like the ones I met at the Georgian middle school and the elementary school. But I know that I’m going to get over that. I’m an Asian American and nobody can define whether I’m American or not. If someone thinks I’m not, I’d tell them to fuck off. I hope all the other poor minority kids being racially bullied read this beautiful essay and realize that they’re all beautiful and nobody can define what they are. We’re all Americans and those insecure, ignorant bullies who think they’re superior because of the amount of melanin in their skin cells don’t get that concept of all people being equal.

  122. Christie wrote:

    I was a white girl in a mostly-white school and did not experience racism, obviously, but was near the bottom of the pack, was teased and excluded a lot, and was constantly told by my mom to “just ignore them”… so I tried to follow her advice. Now as an adult, I think this advice was completely useless, and I’m sure my attempts to follow it just led to my being even more out-of-it socially. I hope people will avoid giving their children this harmful advice. There was one girl who was *always* at the bottom of the social scale (I was 2nd or 3rd from the bottom), and looking back, I am pretty sure this one girl was mixed-race, besides being chubby and socially awkward.

    My sons are half white and half South Asian, and went to a very provincial, almost all-white school in England for 3 years, and my older son was shunned and asked if he “ate poo” or “ate mud”, etc. My husband and I had faith in the system, and taught him to tell the teacher if he was being harrassed in any way. We taught him to *never* fight back, because as a physically big outsider, he would be blamed for any resulting fight. He followed our advice for several years, in 3 very different schools (the white English school, then a mostly East Asian and white intl. school in Japan, then an all Japanese public school). All we ended up with was a big boy (6th grade) who everyone knew didn’t know how to defend himself, and who was emotionally at risk, and many teachers just got sick of his complaints and were not much help. Finally, in 6th grade we changed our minds and told him to defend himself, by fighting back (like for like). Of course the teachers were not happy to have 2 big boys fighting, where previously they would have had one boy fighting and one boy powerlessly cowering (our son). We immediately saw good results, though – he seemed to feel less powerless, and the bullying reduced very noticeably. Now we teach our younger son to fight back when necessary.

    In the roughish white community we lived in, in England, I had learned to fear white youths (a lot of tough, skinhead or yob-type kids looking for trouble), and really feared how they would treat my older son once he got out from under my protective wing. Things are much better for us in Japan. Of course there is racism in Japan, too, but it seems to be far less overt and less physically dangerous than what they would have faced in England (partially it is because the particular area we live in is much more open-minded than where we lived in England). So far (he is 14 now) the worst we have experienced is a punch in the eye by a Japanese boy, and one mixed white and Japanese teenager calling him “sandn*****” repeatedly. The schools both supported our efforts completely in addressing these (and lesser) issues. Later, my husband happened to run into the latter boy in town one day, told him off about the “sandn*****” thing, and told him to “Watch your f***** mouth” (!). I was worried at first, but my husband said, “The color comes from me. When he says that to my son, it’s like he’s saying it to me.” My son then said, “Dad’s cool!” I had to agree that it was a much better message to teach my older son, that, no, minority people shouldn’t have to silently put up with bad treatment. My husband went through a lot of racism growing up in England, but was in a fairly powerless position, and I’m sure he also had the feeling of, “No, I’m not going to silently take it now that my son is being racially bullied!” I am now strongly in favor of a proactive response when possible, NOT “just ignore them”. When anyone in my younger son’s school (Japanese public school) makes fun of his name, I help him to think up weird names to call the offenders. It seems to help…

  123. C-Marsh wrote:

    @ Atlasien

    I just wanted to say that this is one of the best pieces that I have ever read. Thank you for sharing!!

  124. Lisa wrote:

    Both the essay and so many of the comments are beautiful and heartbreaking and thought-provoking. My thanks to all.

    I’m white, but as a kid, being smart and academic and from an unhappy family, I was always quite the outcast. I grew up in Michigan, and the years at public school consisted of bullying by white girls who seemed half my size. My parents were then upper class, I lived with the popular kids and they’d play with me one on one, but then shun me publically because I was weird.

    I didn’t realize then how low on the pecking order I was, I had bigger fish at home and enjoyed studying too much too much to notice much. Besides books, my only friends were the “fob” Asian immigrant kids. But I remember freaking out about their “weird” homes across town, what with the non-WASP food and habits. And there was one girl who was my best friend in third grade, literally f o t b from Vietnam, who I sometimes was very meanly mocking of because her English was imperfect. My older brother pointed out to me that I was being a bad friend, it was an awakening. I had found one of the few people even more powerless than myself who I could exert some power – however negative over. Not that I really realized that as an eight year old.

    I never meant it maliciously. I was a miserable little kid from a conservative family. But, I really wish I could now apologize to her – and to all the other PoC bussed in/immigrant kids who were so nice to me and who I yet was a little bit scared of then. I don’t blame myself for then, but I wish I could have been as good a friend to them as they were to me.

  125. Lisa wrote:

    Oops, meant TWICE my size re white girl bullies. Damn you, Freud.

  126. m wrote:

    @Lisa

    I appreciate your sentiment but if you really want to “apologize” to the immigrant girls, you should stop using words like FOB or FOTB because that in itself is pretty racist. I had never heard of such slangs until I was in college because my campus had a larger asian population than where I grew up. (I grew up in a predominantly white neighborhood so nobody knew of such slangs.) Unfortunately, you’ll hear some asians use that slang and in my opinion, it’s the same thing as self-hate. I’m of the mindset that Afrian Americans shouldn’t call themselves the N word and Asian-americans shouldn’t use words like FOB. There are plenty of european immigrants but they have the luxury of fitting in immediately by virtue of their race.

  127. Elton wrote:

    @ Restructure!
    Thank you for pointing out the outgroup homogeneity bias. Our own group seems diverse and outside groups seem homogenized, or, as I would have put it, imbued with a sense of community. I still think there are important factors for why Asians like me don’t feel a sense of community (vastly different national, cultural, class, generation, and language origins) whereas Latinos from Mexico to Argentina speak Spanish. I can’t even speak to other Chinese who speak Mandarin because my family is Cantonese. Heck, I can’t even speak to other Cantonese speakers because my Cantonese is so weak.

    I guess that’s the heart of why I feel so frustrated and isolated–I’ve never been in a situation where I felt I was part of my own cultural/racial/ethnic community, and even if I moved to a Chinatown, I still wouldn’t fit in. I guess I’m doomed to wander the earth like a rogue samurai. (That sounds kinda cool)

  128. sk wrote:

    m at #126: I completely agree with you about expressions like FOB. My cousins (who are in their thirties and should know better by now) use it to describe me since I moved to this country 6 years ago. It is such a hateful term.

    This was a very moving post. It was painful to read about everyone’s experiences; thank you for sharing.

  129. NancyP wrote:

    European immigrants may fit in now, but believe me, they were considered fotb in the past. Anti-Semitism was perfectly socially acceptable until the liberation of the concentration camps.

  130. Lisa wrote:

    Hi M, thanks and I totally know what you mean, but I do think fob/fotb is one of those terms that depends on context, kinda like “laowai” here in China. I likewise have spent enough time on less gentle Asian-American forums than this, and seen with some of my AA friends, a real defensive hostility towards and distancing from “Asian-Asians”. It of course results from their desire to “just be normal”, which itself assumes that being mainstream “American” is inherently superior than being culturally Asian (or ___). If you firmly believe that there is NOTHING WRONG with being culturally Asian or transitional, not mainstream, not (perhaps yet) assimilated, then fob holds no insult. It merely means one is at the beginning of what will hopefully prove a positive transition.

    I was a total fob my first two years in China, and am bemused (and also, uncharitably, embarassed) by the awkward blusters of the fob foreigners now. I enjoy shutting up those who use fob as an insult by pointing out, when they come to China, THEY’RE the fobs.

    Back to main topic: as a petite woman, I’ve benefitted greatly from taking up Taekwondo a couple of years ago. Just the awareness that I can physically defend myself somewhat projects something that seems to keep people from messing with me as much. When I have kids, I hope to train as a family; this post has really opened my eyes to how much my prospective kids might face as half-whites, however assimilated, in China. (And I think it’s good to start worrying about such matters well in advance, well before I have kids; most parents of mixed kids in China never do.) Discussing our own experiences is cathartic, but the utility is in how do we make it better for the next generation?

    The thing with well-taught martial arts is that they give you a certain physical power and confidence, but also train the philosophy of: never have to use this. Not to fetishize the “mystical zen” shit, but there is much psychological and mental benefit in exercised willpower and confidence. I think any sport, but especially one with a self-defense element, and especially for girls, has definite benefits.

  131. Jess wrote:

    @Lisa —

    I’ve been involved in the martial arts (karate, muay thai, back to karate) over the last 20 years. And I also think it provides so many benefits that I’d almost place it as a requirement for kids to learn in school, if that were possible. I am totally with you on how it can help.

    Screw mystic zen :-) — as I said earlier in this thread, kids aren’t stupid. I have found that once they have that first experience that tells them, “Holy crap, I can really hurt somebody if I am not careful” that tends to wake them up, if you see what I mean.

    It kind of creates an ability to empathize. I’ve never allowed a kid to get really hurt, but if they mess around and somebody gets a shiner, well… I just tell them “You didn’t listen. Now you know. Remember how that felt, and think about it.”

    In the dojo I train them in, we tell them “never show off what you have learned here, never start a fight.”

    I taught one class to largely minority kids as well in New York City, and while it was trying sometimes, I felt like it worked as a way to give them the confidence not only to project “don’t mess with me” but to go their own way when necessary — precisely because they felt nobody could mess with them as easily. That is, when you feel like nobody can physically screw with you, it puts you a notch up in your ability to deal with taunts. Does that make sense?

    I wish I had been comfortable enough with my own body at 10 years old to take it up, I really do. (My parents even suggested it and I was too embarrassed. How sad is that?)

    Then of course, there’s the health benefits, and learning to be comfortable in and with your body. That message is especially important for girls, I think. I wish we could get more of them in the class. (Interestingly, the minority-heavy class I taught had a much more even gender mix. Anyone have any idea why? Random variation, maybe?)

  132. CVT wrote:

    I just wrote a post on my own site (about trying to “ignore” race) that led me to think about the desires of a specific demographic to have kids (and adults) “ignore” their problems or bad things happening to them (when we all know so well that that doesn’t actually work). Any sociologists out there that have some ideas?

    http://choptensils.blogspot.com/2008/12/on-escaping-race.html

  133. jo wrote:

    I was a (white) scholarship kid in a conservative K-12 prep school, 90% white and 90% filthy rich. I started in fourth grade and up until then had been home-schooled, so I arrived as a small Martian: it was 1983 and I’d never heard of Madonna or Michael Jackson. I looked like a hippie even in a uniform. I read grown-up books and had a special dispensation from the teacher to write poems that didn’t rhyme. All things considered, the first couple of years weren’t that bad, especially compared to my brother’s experience entering the eighth grade as a twelve-year-old; I was loud, cocky, had a flair for kicking people in the shins, and younger kids just aren’t as mean. But by the time I hit middle school, all my self-confidence vanished and I became (and was made) painfully aware that I was Poor and Weird.

    If it hadn’t been for my best friend, I would never have made it through. “Best friend” requires some clarification: she was my best friend, not vice-versa, since I was thrust upon her by a conspiracy of mothers (my parents were often away and would park us at their place, since she also had an older brother in the same grade as mine). But rarely in my life have I encountered someone as… gracious, even though gracious may seem like a strange word to apply to a pre-teen. She was pretty, popular, and the star athlete and ballerina of my class. She was “normal”, versed in things like Pop-Tarts and Mtv. And never, once, did she make me feel like she was embarrassed to save me a place at the lunch table.

    She was also biracial, not well-to-do (though her family was a bit better off than mine), a straight-A student, and almost as much of a late bloomer in the puberty department as yours truly. I envied her so much at the time for what seemed like her effortless ability to fit in that it didn’t hit me until years later that it probably wasn’t so effortless. Star ballerina, star athlete, star student: effortless? And it certainly didn’t garner her dates in high school, as far as I know. It did, as far as I know, keep her from being picked on as different. She emanated such an aura of imperturbable self-confidence that I never once questioned whether it was wholly authentic. And I still don’t know. What I do know is that she never turned on others in order to gain acceptance. I probably would have, had I been even one notch further up on the popularity scale.

    All this just to say that you never forget the acts of malice from middle school. But you never forget the acts of kindness, either.

  134. Medusa wrote:

    Christie,

    I am shocked to hear that your son was teased at the int’l school in Japan. I attended an int’l in Tokyo for all of elementary school and some of middle school. I was the ONLY black student in the school and didn’t really experience much race-based bullying (until 6th grade when this EXTREMELY racist American kid showed up and would make racist threats toward me), although there were obviously ignorant comments and I had one teacher say that the reason there is famine in Africa is because “the black people disobyed God.” Seriously. (I should mention it is a fiercely born-again school). I wish your son all the best, and if he’s 14, only a few short years until university!

    Lisa, we need to meet sometime. I would REALLY like to meet another Racialicious reader in Shanghai.

  135. Lisa wrote:

    Medusa, I’d love to meet up. Actually, we should do a Shanghai Racialicious coffee or happy hour, I’m sure there are several of us, and all with observations and experiences that would make for a good discussion.

    Just no having it at expat-only restaurants or skanky hooker bars. I get endlessly offended that Democrats Abroad have all of their events at Malones (sex tourism central) or Glamour Bar (expensive expat place that is very unwelcoming to Mainland Chinese). Maybe Time Passage, or Bandu?

  136. Lxy wrote:

    Just no having it at expat-only restaurants or skanky hooker bars. I get endlessly offended that Democrats Abroad have all of their events at Malones (sex tourism central) or Glamour Bar (expensive expat place that is very unwelcoming to Mainland Chinese). Maybe Time Passage, or Bandu?

    Western and worst of all American “expatriates” are the modern day versions of the White colonialist elites of yore.

    They share the same barely concealed sense of imperial arrogance and disdain of the “natives” as their ancestors–but updated for politically correct modern sensibilities.

    The only things these people are missing are the jodhpurs and pith helmets.

  137. Medusa wrote:

    Lisa, how do I get a hold of you?

  138. AC wrote:

    Reading these posts brings back so many painful memories of middle and high school and my awkward adolescence.

    I too was picked on by fellow black kids for three main reasons so popular amongst us black social outcasts that were often teased by our own moreso than other white (or other racial kids: I was told that I “talked white”, I was an early bloomer as far as puberty goes and had rather large breasts at age 12 and was very socially awkward ( I can now attribute this to a recent diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome, a mild form of autism that affects one’s ability to relate to others and causes great difficulty in socializing comfortably with others).

    However, I was picked on too by the whites (and Hispanics in 9th grade) for being too “dark” and for being “dumb” (though I enjoyed reading a variety of novels and newpapers articles and always got straight A’s in English and Spanish throughout high school).

    I don’t really have a happy ending to offer where I can neatly wrap up my experiences and say “now I’m successful in this and that and the whole experience has made me stronger.” Actually it hasn’t (yet). I still struggle with self-esteem issues related to being a less-than-ideal-sized-18-in-clothes and with being a dark-skinned black women. Though I graduated from a rather good college and am planning on obtaining an advanced degree in public health, I still wonder if I’m pretty or witty enough to ever find someone to settle down with and with whom to build a life together (complete with the dog, two cats, a bunny, maybe a kid or two and the neat little townhouse in the suburbs outside of Washington D.C. with a nice white picket fence).

    But I did find this very well-written essay inspiring (though I took a small pause at the “big, mean and scary” comment however I can empathize with the author all the same) and while it was painful to read, since I knew all too well about feeling like an outcast (though I’m black), it helps to know I’m not the only one who suffered in these types of situations with cruel kids.

    Kids can be so very, very cruel and vicious.

  139. Ky wrote:

    I really connected with your (Atlasien’s) experiences, and I think most Americans of Asian descent that grow up in the U.S have similar stories to tell. I would bet that if I were to walk into any given American public school today in which Asian kids are enrolled then I would see these kids experiencing exactly what you described. I don’t think much has changed.

    What is remarkable is how complacent the Asian American community seems to be on this issue and it’s mind boggling that an experience that is so universal amongst Asian Americans hasn’t really spawned an advocacy group to highlight these issues and develope a network of advocacy on the national level.

    At the end of the day this is really a civil rights issue, how could it be anything else? American kids of Asian descent have been and continue to be targeted because of their race and yet school administrations and teachers seem “oblivious” of these experiences or are apathetic (or simply refuse) about confonting them. It’s the duty of school administrators to ensure a healthy and safe school environment free of racial bias and harrassment. By not doing so they are allowing the civil rights of our kids to be repeatedly stomped on.

  140. Muay Thai wrote:

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