Mirror’s Edge: Pixilated Beauty, Race, and Stereotypes

by Latoya Peterson

I’ve been checking for the game Mirror’s Edge for a while, since the first stills dropped a few months ago. There are a lot of things that excite me about the game: tapping into the parkour experience, rolling through a first person landscape without it being a shooter, a provocative plot.

However, I would be lying if I didn’t say I was geeked about a woman of color protagonist - and one who has a character design which reflects the environment she works within.

However, I haven’t yet played Mirror’s Edge because of what I am calling the If You Give a Gamer a Cookie New Console conundrum.* So, I’ve been keeping my gaming excitement on a low simmer. Well, I was, until I clicked over to Feministe.

And as always, Hollyhas got the gaming goods.

Mirror’s Edge is at its heart a game about parkour, the athletic art of moving between two points as rapidly as possible, using nothing but your body and features of the environment. The game’s protagonist is Faith, an Asian-American courier with a knack for hurling herself into harm’s way. Like a lot of parkour enthusiasts, she spends a lot of time on rooftops, and Mirror’s Edge is largely about jumping, vaulting, climbing, pushing off of walls, rolling as Faith falls from great heights, and other almost-impossible seeming feats of gravity defiance.

I swear, I have to bite my finger from screaming at this gameplay. But Holly’s post also sheds some interesting light on a racial nuance in the conversation surrounding Mirror’s Edge:

Even when you do see her in ads, mirrors, and cutscenes, Faith has a wiry, androgynous form suited to someone who runs and climbs for a living. Her clothing is utilitarian, not decorative, and her style of movement is closer to the efficiency of parkour than the aesthetics of free running. Tom Farrer, the producer of the game, was recently quoted about her character design:

    We’ve spent time in developing Faith. And the important thing for us was that she was human, that she was more real.

    We really wanted to get away from the typical portrayal of women in games, that they’re all just kind of tits and ass in a steel bikini. We wanted her to look athletic and fit and strong [enough] that she could do the things that she’s doing.

    We wanted her to be attractive, but we didn’t want her to be a supermodel. We wanted her to be approachable and far more real. It was just kind of depressing that someone thinks it would be better if Faith was a 12-year-old with a boob job. That was kind of what that image looked to me. […] To be honest, I found it kind of sad.

Farrer is talking about a fan-made image that started making the rounds six weeks ago, created by a Korean gamer who felt that the character design was a Western stereotype of Asian women, and didn’t cater to “Asian tastes” enough. Here’s the comparison:

Guess which one is supposed to represent “asian tastes?” Refreshingly, the response from the gamer community has largely been in favor of the original Faith, with a healthy smattering of “uh, I’m Asian and I prefer the one on the left, OK?” I can’t give people TOO much credit for being creeped out by the combination of D-cups with a little girl face, it’s like getting the “yay, you’re not a pedophile” award. Even hardcore gamers like variety, and a change of pace from the usual improbably red-headed loincloth-clad Chinese girls with giant swords for something slightly more realistic. (As a side note I can see the point about stereotypes in that Faith’s eye shape is highlighted and then accentauted by makeup, and “lithe and wiry” is the usual body type that’s paired up with Asian ethnicities… but the boobs and the anime-cutie face? Come on. I hope it was a tongue-in-cheek joke, which is what some are saying.)

Some comments on other sites have gone so far as to say that a less-sexy character design is responsible for the relatively low sales of Mirror’s Edge, but I’m not really sure how that could play such a huge part given that you don’t actually see the character in the game. If anything, I suspect it’s more that the concept of the game, a true 3D platformer that’s not billed as a fantasy adventure, is a little too unfamiliar for many holiday shoppers. It’s a shame, really. Parkour has been popping up all over pop culture lately, from action-packed television ads to the villains in the latest Die Hard film and other games like Assassin’s Creed. But Mirror’s Edge is the first to really nail the experience, and the result is fantastic gameplay.

Checking a couple of the online conversations about the two images (follow the link only if you are accustomed to gaming blog conversations - they trend toward sexist/racist/ableist), I’m intrigued by why so many gamers found Faith’s original image ugly. She is compared to Lucy Liu, called “FOBBY,” said her face is “too old” to be attractive, and often termed “masculine.”

Other gamers mentioned and interesting point (that Holly referred to in her original post) - Faith’s original form is too exoticized to represent an Asian American woman. The consensus was essentially her eyes are too small and her cheekbones are too high to realistically represent an Asian woman. Many of those commenters remarked that the second image was more realistic in how Asian women really look.

Other respondents to the thread noted how there is also an interesting shift in the power dynamics between the first and the second image. The first Faith looks angry, forceful, and competent. The second Faith looks more vulnerable, innocent, and slightly insecure. Some respondents even chalked this up to an East vs. West divide.

And, a few intrepid commenters pointed out how threads like that one lead to blatant stereotyping of entire groups.

What do you think readers?

*The conundrum goes like this: If you give a gamer a new console, she’s going to ask for a better TV, with which to appreciate the better graphics. And she will ask for a new entertainment center, to house the new games, console, and TV. And then, she will ask for a new couch, which will accommodate stretching out during long gaming sessions. And then she will realize that she still hasn’t bought a dining room table for her spartan apartment. And then she realizes she has a lot of expenses coming up and about twelve other games for the PS2 waiting in her Gamefly queue, so she decides to be happy with what she has and be a responsible adult. And that works until she sees a cool trailer for a new PS3 game, which makes her want a new console…

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Comments

  1. Allison wrote:

    I was wondering about Faith’s tattoo — does anyone know what the tattoo means or if it’s standard for a female character in games like these to be tattooed? The only other female video-game character with tattoos that I remember is Lara Croft, but I could be leaving out some others… I feel like either way, it’s breaking out of the decades old stereotype that tattoos are only for tough, burly men.

    Great post!!

  2. Minotaar wrote:

    I understand that the small boobs thing is one way to consider Faith a-typical, but the unrealistically upturned eyes are just screaming exoticized.

    I think Farrer’s comments regarding the portrayal of women in games isnt wrong, but his perspective seems less clueful about the race issue here. Good job getting away from the boob-job and steel bikini, but the tatooed Asian chick with wacked out eyes is so Sin City and Kill Bill.

    I think their attempt to give Faith an “edginess” fell flat. I understand that giving the character some zazz (for want of a less flattering word) will probably improve game sales, but this is really the wrong way to do it. If you want images of an Asian woman with an edge, Michelle Yeoh. Totally.

  3. Yazmin wrote:

    I’m a girl gamer. However, I totally see what the boys are talking about as far as sexing up the character. The sad fact is…and we all know this…that sex sells, especially in the game world. If sales are low of Mirror’s Edge, I wouldn’t put it past the fact that they didn’t sex up Faith.

    Having said that, if it’s as good of a game as it seems (and I can’t play that style either…makes me want to pull my hair out), the game will outshine all the complaints of the accompanying art. I mean, really, you’re right in saying that you never see her in the game, so what’s the point? Just to appease a bunch of gamer boys who want their female main protagonists to look like Barbie is not good enough. It’s clear from the fan art that nothing is stopping them from doing that themselves. So I don’t think they should give in and redo the art. Let the fan boys do what they will.

  4. Dolly wrote:

    It really disgusts me that gamers (probably most of them white) think that the design on the right is more typical of the Asian woman. It’s not typical of ANY woman. It’s typical of the perverted, unreal hentai porn that’s sweeped a lot of anime/manga, sci-fi loving, hetero male communities.

    I just get this nasty sense that if many of these guys (and possibly girls) are white gamers, how many of them have actually travelled extensively through Asian countries and met REAL Asian people. I think this goes back to one of Latoya’s posts a while ago about how a lot of white people today think they know more about Japan than the Japanese because they’re “otakus.” So when non-Asians are debating over what is *truly* Asian to them, it pisses me off.

    On the other hand, that game designer’s quote about wanting to make the character strong and fit really astounds me. I didn’t realize there were any game designer’s with that kind of awareness about bodies and reality. Maybe there’s hope after all?

  5. Aris wrote:

    *Shaking my head* I should’ve known someone would have a problem with her single-lidded eyes…. The Faith on the right is Whiter looking. They’re just fooling themselves when they say that the average Asian woman looks like Right Faith. >_> Most of the Asian women I’ve seen look like original Faith and there is nothing with that, it’s beautiful and should be embraced!!

  6. [dave] wrote:

    great post, i love your video game commentary.

  7. Celeste wrote:

    I also disagree with calling the image on the right more “Asian”.The image on the right looks like kiddie porn to me. The male gaze is obvious. How is having gianto-tits going to help her scale all these large buildings? It’ll just make her top heavy, considering the rest of her is all super skinny. The image on the right is more athletic and confident.

  8. Cynthia wrote:

    Left Faith’s figure looks like mine without a bra (though my eyes don’t look like that). Right Faith’s figure kind of like mine with a really, really good bra (ok, so not nearly as big in the boobage compartment, but still bigger than the image on the left).

    I’m sorry, Celeste, but the whole “kiddie porn” comment makes me uncomfortable, because it is implying that I have a child-like figure. If that’s the case, then you might as well say that people who’re like me can’t be sexy.

  9. MikeDawc wrote:

    @ Allison

    About the tattoo, that is just the logo for Mirror’s Edge as indicated by Gametrailer.com’s analysis of one of the Mirror’s Edge trailers, you’ll see the clip mention Faith’s tattoo near the end of the video. I think the reason why Faith has this tattoo and a bunch of other tattoos is that it is suppose to symbolize or reflect a certain kind of rebellion against the government of the city that Faith lives in. Mirror’s Edge takes place in a dystopian future with a seemingly utopian city that is run by a government that monitors everything that people do, kind of like that novel(by George Orwell is it?) called Nineteen Eighty-Four with Big Brother. I have not played the game yet because I do not have any of the next gen consoles. However, I think there is some kind of social commentary concerning Mirror’s Edge about a country’s government turning into fascist regime. If you watch the trailer’s analysis, they mention a word in the game, raposa, which is spanish for fox. I think the game’s designers are taking a jab at Fox News for supporting the Republicans, I don’t really know. Nonetheless, check out the game, it is like a first person take on games like the Prince of Persia and Assassin’s Creed, but through a first person perspective.

    If the video does not work, here is the link: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34019.html

  10. Celeste wrote:

    Cynthia: I’m talking about the combo of the more child-like face with the big boobs, not just the figure itself. Does you face look like the image on the right ? So are you saying that with bra on you look *just* like the image on the right? I’ve met people with “young” looking faces but it’s a bit unusual to see with that kind of endowment. I think pairing girlish faces with womanly bodies (or dressing up young girls in sexually provacative ways) just encourages dirty old man syndrome.

  11. MeowKun wrote:

    Aris and Dolly:

    In terms of “which Faith look more ‘Asian’”, it really depends on which part Asia you are/were/ in or visited/been to.
    To me, niether of their look related to me in reality. The orginal Faith look somewhere between lucy liu and lu yan (very rare in my community) and the fanmade one…
    well the face is more common ( most of the people will have sightly wider chin tho and without those double Ds) but the eyes is slightly unrealistic (it is either really wide or really round; and please dont ask me why) the bust is just off (please dont even get me even get started!)
    That being said single/double lid is a very complicated too. Basically the futher away from NE Asia, they more diffculty to see single eyelid. For example, I was born and raised in Hong Kong, both of my parents are Cantonese and single eyelid is not common (like less then around 25% of them) among both side of my family and even if they do, none them have narrow eyes shape a la original faith. And if you go to South East Asia, almost everyone have big eye (I know small eyes is favored in Malaysia, last time I went to there, the tour guide lady told me that), so single eyelid is not really directly associated with Asian (i know some African girls with single eyelid), it is just more frequent in some parts of Asia.

  12. Cynthia wrote:

    Celeste,

    I don’t know if the Faith on the right really looks THAT young. I certainly wouldn’t think she’s in middle school. Maybe high school, but not Grade 7 . I would have put both Faiths at around 16. In any case, with the right bra, I’m *STILL* smaller, of course, but bigger than the left Faith.

    I look young for my age, and I’m very sensitive to the “child” thing (as are many petite women). I know of other women who’ve (almost) gotten their boyfriends in trouble because others thought they were 12.

  13. EvilAngelfish wrote:

    @Cynthia, I don’t think that Celeste was implying that Left Faith’s figure was unsexy or that Right Faith’s figure is childlike (although please feel free to correct me, Celeste). I think it’s more that Right Faith’s childish face is very incongruous with the development of her body. By your own admission, it takes a very good bra to make your figure look similar - it doesn’t naturally look like that.

    Also, even if such a small-framed, slim girl had such large boobs, given the athleticism involved in parkour, it is ridiculous to think you’d be able to see Faith’s nipples (as you can in the picture of Right Faith) because she’d be wearing a sports bra. That aspect of the illustration was obviously created for the benefit of people who like to look at young ladies’ nipples and has no bearing on reality.

  14. elise wrote:

    This comment isn’t going towards the race issue presented, so feel free to ignore.

    As someone who has played the game and talked with people who have, one complaint was that is can be won fairly quickly (I had a friend who did it in four hours).

    The other complaint/comment that cropped up was that it was like a 3d Mario - in the sense that you’re moving through the environment as quickly as you can and the paths are pretty set. Now I play with RPers, so I think they’re disappointed with the lack of EPICness in the story line and sidequesting.

    I, on the other hand, love it like I love breathing. Parkour, strong heroine, parkour, unique gameplay, parkour, and the pretty graphics. I’m not a huge FPS fan, so this is right up my alley. If you’re a gamer, get it.

  15. Cynthia wrote:

    ^^^16 at the very youngest, that is.

  16. CVT wrote:

    Thought I’d weigh in with a male view on this one:

    The Faith on the left looks more like my mom (who is Chinese) by FAR than the right (including body type and all that). There is definitely no rule that says Asian folks actually have “bigger eyes” in general. And since Asians cover the whole gamut of body type and eyes and the rest, it’s kind of crazy to even have a debate about who looks “more Asian” (and I echo Dolly in that it’s especially so by folks who aren’t even Asian, themselves).

    As for the ‘kiddie porn’ reference - a lot of Asian folks tend to look much younger than they actually are (in relation to what white people look like at their age), so I didn’t really think the right Faith looked like a kid. Hell - when I worked at an after school program at a middle school in my mid-twenties, I had some college kids try to sign me up for a class (yes, a MIDDLE SCHOOL after-school class).

    So, Cynthia - I’ve got you on this one. It will pay off, eventually (my mom is in her mid-60s, and nobody has thought she was anything older than 40-something, with no artificial “enhancement”).

  17. Kavita wrote:

    I’m feeling Dolly. I’m a (South) Asian woman and I think the whole debate about what constitutes a “typical” Asian woman is absurd. There are BILLIONS of us. We have all different eye shapes, cheekbones, and breast sizes. That said, I definitely prefer the left Faith. I swear I see a nipple out on the right Faith–I mean, come on.

  18. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    @elise -

    Thanks for the info. As an RPGer myself, that does put a damper on things for me. I’m a chill, exploratory gamer who loves sidequests - a four hour game is a tease. (But, I’m sure I can drag that out into six.)

    And I think this was a pretty unique concept for them, so maybe they’ll expand it in a different version. (That is if it gets enough cash to garner investing in a sequel.)

  19. gatamala wrote:

    1) I love the first pic!! That second one just.aint.right. She looks human in the first one.

    2) If you give a gamer a new console, she’s going to ask for a better TV, with which to appreciate the better graphics. And she will ask for a new entertainment center, to house the new games, console, and TV. And then, she will ask for a new couch, which will accommodate stretching out during long gaming sessions. And then she will realize that she still hasn’t bought a dining room table for her spartan apartment. And then she realizes she has a lot of expenses coming up

    Ok. I still don’t have a table. Before I saw this game, I was satisfied with my plastic idiot box. I have bar dues to pay. I figured I could wait until March for a new t.v. Hell, I need to fund another retirement plan. But…I found a good t.v. on sale and Circuit City is going out of business….

    what to do what to do?

  20. elise wrote:

    @LaToya

    You can definitely extend the gameplay beyond 4 hours - my friend is just ridiculously focused. I’m an RPGer too, but this was a great change of pace. I can’t recommend it enough - though I’m getting a lot of Love or Not from the people I hang out with - it’s very either/or and no middle.

    Supposedly, it’s supposed to be a trilogy. Since the world is so interesting, I’m hoping they’ll do something with it (and also looking for the comic book - yeah, I have a Platinum geek-out card, what can I say. ^_^)

  21. elise wrote:

    @Latoya

    Sorry, spelled your name wrong!

  22. Monie wrote:

    Dolly said “how many of them have actually travelled extensively through Asian countries and met REAL Asian people.”

    Dolly,

    You don’t necessarily have to travel to Asia to see ‘real’ Asian people, you can actually see them here in the U.S. Lol

  23. Persephone wrote:

    “Childish” face and “womanish” body here (pink cheeks, tiny voice, big boobs and hips). But yeah, I’m not seeing how adding the boobs makes the character “more asian” or “more realistic,” especially without a sports bra.

    I like Faith because it’s rare to see a female video game character whose style and adornment (tattoos, haircut, makeup, clothes) represent her own needs and self-expression as an athlete and member of a subculture, as opposed to the desires of male players.

  24. Reiter wrote:

    I whole-heartedly agree with CVT and a whole slew of others about this issue. It’s somewhat refreshing to see an Asian heroine in a video game who isn’t some exoticized dragon lady assassin or barbie/bimbo eye candy. While I can see some truth in the claims that Faith’s Asian facial features are purposely accentuated, her overall design is definitely a step in the right direction for a protagonist of color; strong, confident, with a body type that fits in with the story and environment of the game.

    And gamers on the whole (at least the ones who are most verbal on the Web) will often be white males who have no clue as to what being Asian is all about, no matter how much anime they watch or otaku conventions they attend. A lot of them also see Japan (which in their view is the pinnacle of “Asian-ness” despite Japan being only one country out of many that make up Asia) as some sort of perfect utopian mecca, and forgetting that Asian countries are often dealing with the same social issues and problems as everywhere else (racism, crime, unemployment, etc.).

    I’m also an Asian in the US military and having been stationed in Japan, I can tell you that there are a lot of preconceived notions from Westerners (mostly GIs, of course, but also white, black, hispanic, etc.) about Asian women. A lot of these guys pick up an Asian girl thinking they’re more docile and subservient than Western women, and when they get married, nothing could be further from the truth. Oftentimes, the supposedly “more obedient” Asian woman is as vocal or demanding as any other person.

    People are people; shocking, I know.

  25. Allison wrote:

    @MikeDawc:

    Thank you for the link and the explanation! Much appreciated :)

  26. uu wrote:

    I would like to ask what is all this about Faith looking “Asian-American”? Is she suppose to be Chinese or Japanese or Korean…Laotian-American.

    As for the two images, I think they are two sides of the same coin. People comment on how the eyes don’t really represent Asian women and it only exoticifies (Is that all the nations of East Asia?), but are positive that she isn’t sexified by having huge, unrealistic jugs that the fan boys drool over.

    However, the image on the left is positive only for the eyes. (You can see that the artist changed the boobs, the right nostril, the bangs of her hair, the eyes, took out the tattoo from under her left eye, and contours of her face, to make it softer). But negative about the change of her chest.

    With the change of the contours of her face, I wonder how old Faith is intended to be. The image on the left suggests to me that she is a vetern of the job, determination, has all the experience of the world and knows how to get out of a sticky situation, by any means necessary.

    The image on the right suggest to me, she is out there only testing the skills she’s recently learned as a student, who was discovered to have great potential. She looks like she has the potential of being taken captive and if not rescued, could face rape (since she’s a girl).

    I don’t see that happening with the Faith on the left. I see that if she did get caught, she would be toutured like a soldier, caught behind enemy lines.

  27. Heather wrote:

    I’m not a gamer, but I am an Asian female, and if the game producers were seeking a more realistic female protagonist, then I think they succeeded. It may not be the perfect, most accurate portrayal, but I do at least feel like I can relate to the original Faith to some degree. My body type is definitely far more similar to hers than the anime chick on the right. I am tired of portrayals of Asian women as either complacent damsels or dominatrices with huge boobs. Although somewhat exoticized, I appreciate this attempt to move away from the false dichotomy Asian women often face.

  28. cat m. wrote:

    sigh.
    When I first saw the demo for this game… I went NUTS. I might not be a gamer, but I LOVE watching and I love geeking over graphics and design. Everything about it is so fluid and beautiful that I need to play the game. I got really excited too about her being Asian…and as I read the creators statements about getting away from ass/tits make me MORE excited.

    but… I don’t know what to do with the fact that Right Faith has my face and my boobs (I’m just thicker). I wanna say just screw it all, that there is no way to decide who is ‘more asian looking’…. but if I look like a fetish/not human…
    Well, I just don’t know.

  29. JLC wrote:

    Aside from whether Faith looks Asian, maybe a more important question is why is she Asian at all? I don’t want to overstate this, but it seems that Asian women have become synonymous with some sort of “safe edginess” among the gamer and hipster crowds. I’m no gamer, but when I found out that Faith was Asian, I wasn’t surprised at all. Now if she were black or Latina, that would have shocked me. Faith’s race seems to reflect hipster white men’s obsession with Asian women, don’t you think? Maybe I’m overreacting here.

  30. Mammith wrote:

    @uu: I remember reading in an article that while Faith is intended to appear Asian-American, at the same time they were going for a multiracial person. Though this wasn’t an interview so it may have been the writers own views.

    I do want this game, played the demo and it was AWESOME. But like Latoya I’m more of an RPG nut, so I’m just gonna wait till next year when it’s cheap and second-hand. Persona 3 is eating up all my gaming hours anyway.

    @Latoya: Oh yeah, I saw you quoted in that Gameplayer article about race, pretty good article I must say.

  31. Minx wrote:

    the trend in making women look soft and delicate really scares me. Its this image, the controversy over beyonce’s backup dancer in SINGLE LADIES, and other things that make me wonder if ppl reazie women can be big and strong? Ekkk….

    But I like this trend in realistic animation! the simulation on the right cant touch the left one, and the purpose wasnt to have an anime like character.

    When they perfect this method, the acting and movie industry as we know it will be in the trash.

  32. jmn wrote:

    As an Asian guy with only one eye with a double eyelid (yeah, I’m freaky like that), I find all this talk about eye types amusing.

  33. Marge Twain wrote:

    I have certainly seen East Asian women with high cheekbones and small eyes like the Faith on the left. She’s also furrowing her brow in an expression of focus or anger–note the eyebrows, as opposed to the naive expression on the right. I don’t think she should have to look like a perfect mean composite of all, or even “typical” East Asians.

    I really like that they accentuated the shape of her eyes with cat-eye makeup in the original pic. I always bristle when Sephora salespeople try to get me to steer me away from sheer lipcolor because they think I need to correct my dark top lip. It’s an ethnic feature, not a flaw! Faith is supposed to be beautiful, and the original pic is of a girl who’s not afraid to play up her eyes.

  34. Kaonashi wrote:

    Personally, I MUCH prefer the one on the left precisely because she look less “fanservice” than what you usually see in videogames. I suspect the low sales have more to do with the fact that the gameplay is short and (maybe?) lack of replay value than the character design of the heroine. I’m sure I’m not alone in renting games that are -8 gameplay, so I’ll be more interested in seeing how many people are RENTING this as opposed to buying it.

  35. TierList E wrote:

    I’ve also heard that Mirror’s Edge got some lackluster reviews from gameplay, which could have influence its sells.

    I’d have to prefer the left version because I can get behind what the creator was saying about her- it’s a bit refreshing to see a woman character designed for more reasons than just sexual appeal. With the amount of fanart that’ll end up doing that anyway I really don’t know why people complain of such things in the first place.

    I wonder if he was mentally contrasting his design to the Dead or Alive girls?

  36. Dolly wrote:

    @ Monie

    *blushes* Of course! I’m sorry for not saying that. I wasn’t trying to make American synonymous with white, though if it seemed like I was, I’m very sorry.

    I guess what I was trying to get at was a lot of America is still segregated by race (ex. “Chinatowns”) and I know in my community it is very rare to see Asians or even Asian Americans (think Wonder Bread, rural area). So, what I was trying to say was that I feel a lot of white people (like myself) work from a manufactured image in their heads of what an Asian person “should” look like based on the video games, cartoons, etc. that we’ve seen. And that’s definitely part of the reason why I don’t think white people should have a right to decide if something is “Asian enough” or not. In my experience, I *have* heard discussions like this among circles of white gamers and white, self-declared “otakus.” That bothers me because I have thought of it as a kind of cultural appropriation.

  37. Brinstar wrote:

    @ Allison and MikeDawc:

    The tattoo is a part of Runner culture. A lot of the other Runners in the game have tattoos, not just Faith. I suspect they use the tattoos as cultural markers and as signs of rebellion against the strictly regimented dystopian society they live in.

  38. Monie wrote:

    Dolly,

    Okay, got it. :)

  39. Allison wrote:

    @Brinstar: That makes so much sense, actually — thank you for that information!

  40. Celeste wrote:

    @ Marge: Thanks for putting into words the difference in expression between the 2 images. The naive expression doesn’t come across as a serious woman whose skills demand respect, although if people like their ladies vunerable then to each their own.
    @JMN: My husband had the same situation with his eye but he got the single fold eyelid converted to a double. I’m not suggesting that you should do the same but I guess it’s more common than I thought.
    @Persephone: It seems to me that while depictions of women in games will have a childish face and big boobs, the big hips are often left out of the equation. Their waists will be really small to make them look curvy but then the hips aren’t actually that wide compared with the shoulders. And forget about having a curvy butt, that would just mess up the whole side profile.
    @ Minx: what’s the contreversy with the backup dancer in Beyonce’s single ladies video?

  41. InJM wrote:

    Are you sure that’s a Korean image? Everything I can find says Japanese. I’ve only been looking at Japanese sites though. There’s also this amusing site which goes through the editing of a picture of the main character from “Mirror’s Edge” to Ueto Aya to, eventually, “Final Fantasy:”

    http://hatimaki.blog110.fc2.com/blog-entry-642.html

  42. susan wrote:

    The aesthetic of Faith on the left, in addition to reflecting autonomy and badassery, seems pretty queer to me. I find incredibly refreshing, and more than a little hot. So I disagree that she’s less “eye candy” that the pornified Faith on the Right. Rather, she’s eye candy for queer grrrls like me. ;)

  43. [dave] wrote:

    @INJM: creepy progression right there, totally relevant to the commentary. (folks if you click INJM’s link scroll to the bottom and check the last cluster of pictures).

    @Minx: I too would like to know about the “Single Ladies” controversy, what is it?

  44. Minx wrote:

    @ celeste

    There were guestions on whether one of the dancers was a man in drag. Some chalk it up to the fact that she has stronger features and darker skin than Bey and the other dancer.

    It made me mad, and so what if the dancer was a man? And whats wrong with having stronger features!? Ugh…

  45. Mina wrote:

    Latoya Peterson wrote:

    “But Holly’s post also sheds some interesting light on a racial nuance in the conversation surrounding Mirror’s Edge:..

    “…’Farrer is talking about a fan-made image that started making the rounds six weeks ago, created by a Korean gamer who felt that the character design was a Western stereotype of Asian women, and didn’t cater to ‘Asian tastes’ enough.’”

    Dolly wrote:

    “It really disgusts me that gamers (probably most of them white) think that the design on the right is more typical of the Asian woman. It’s not typical of ANY woman. It’s typical of the perverted, unreal hentai porn that’s sweeped a lot of anime/manga, sci-fi loving, hetero male communities.”

    I got the impression that the complainers meant less “Asian women actually look like that” than “Asians want women to look like that” (which is still anti-Asian racism!).

    JLC wrote:

    “Aside from whether Faith looks Asian, maybe a more important question is why is she Asian at all? I don’t want to overstate this, but it seems that Asian women have become synonymous with some sort of ’safe edginess’ among the gamer and hipster crowds. I’m no gamer, but when I found out that Faith was Asian, I wasn’t surprised at all. Now if she were black or Latina, that would have shocked me.”

    Heck, even if she were South Asian or West Asian (like Iranian or Turkish or whomever), that could be nearly as shocking, right?

  46. jeff wrote:

    Has anybody out there played Half Life 2?

    The female lead in that game, named Alyx Vance, is a great female character. She’s brilliant, she’s strong, and she can take care of herself. She’s the emotional core of the story, and Valve (the developers) really make you sympathize with her.

    And, there are two great bonuses.

    1. She has reasonable breasts, and isn’t some over-sexed goddes of death like Lara Croft or whatever.
    2. She’s Black–probably the only important female african-something (the game is set in the soviet bloc, so I can’t say “american”) lead in all of the video game world.

    Thoughts? Am I truly highlighting a shining beacon of feminism in gaming, or am I totally wrong?

  47. jeff wrote:

    Here’s a link to a picture of Alyx Vance.

    http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1553/alyxvancehighresolutionla4.pngpg

    I know she doesn’t look all that dark-skinned, but in the game, her father is black and her mother is asian.

  48. Aris wrote:

    I just think it’s stupid how, big-eyed, double-lidded Asian girls DOMINATE video games, and no one ever complains about how Asian women don’t look like Kasumi from Dead or Alive, Chun Li from Street Fighter, Aoi Umenokouji from Virtua Fighter or Taki from Soul Calibur…

    But people wanna complain about this ONNEEEEE single-lidded, high-cheekboned Asian video game character!

    It’s DUMB and it’s not fair, I tell you!! >=(

  49. Aris wrote:

    Oh, and how about the Qiao Sisters from Dynasty Warriors? And all the other characters in that game that are supposed to be Chinese?! I’m surprised that no one has complained about the way they look because they look whiter than Michael Jackson, my gawd!

  50. Richard wrote:

    Nothing to do with the character representation - and it comes with a stark warning about Yahtzee’s general misanthropy - but this is what you really need to know: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/457-Mirrors-Edge

  51. Nate wrote:

    Some cool points and proof that gamers aren’t all maladjusted suburbanite kids who are on their 25th straight hour of whatever instead of doing their math homework. (except on x-box live :P)

    On the rpg note I like the approach fallout three has taken which seems to be a bit of a first for such a mass market game - namely, your character looks/is whatever you want him/her to be. Race, ethnicity, outlook, morals (jncluding acceptance or not of ‘otherness’), all a choice (or relfection) of whoever stumped up the 30-40 quid.

    I mention reflection because its seems from the majority of gamersite reviews/clips /walkthough, said reviewers ends up defaulting to a white, male avatar.

    Anyways, there’s a UK magazine around called edge. Worth checking out for consideration of the above kind of issues.

  52. Chris wrote:

    @CVT: “And since Asians cover the whole gamut of body type and eyes and the rest, it’s kind of crazy to even have a debate about who looks “more Asian” (and I echo Dolly in that it’s especially so by folks who aren’t even Asian, themselves). ”

    THANK YOU!

    Just looking at the Asian women I know, both face types are correct. Just look at Carmen’s headshot, her face is more round than squared.

    My Korean friend has a round face similar to the fan-made Faith.

    Hell, even my sister, who is half-white and half Filipina, has a face shape similar to that of the Faith on the right. HOWEVER, my other sister’s face is shaped more like the Faith on the left. In addition, I grew up with a few Filipinas who all, including their mother, had faces similar to that of the Faith on the left.

    In short, I think the whole discussion on which character is “more Asian-looking” is inherently based on stereotypes that I don’t think should be applied to anyone.

  53. theboxman wrote:

    Are the images in question meant to be photorealistic or iconic?

    If the latter (although necessarily, there’s an element of both, but for the sake of argument), I can understand the rationale behind the second (right-hand) image, in that it places less emphasis on racializing her features, that is, marking the character as a racial Other, and by implication, placing perceived “white features” as normative. In other words, it renders her recognizably Asian without overt markers of difference against an imagined whiteness.

    (relevant here are discussions of the racial marking of anime characters, who are often misperceived as white in the West, on the probelamtic presumption that racially unmarked = white).

    That said, the boobs are certainly problematic.

  54. DivergentDana wrote:

    I don’t think the “new Faith” was meant to be more representative of typical Asian female characteristics, as opposed to more representative of Asian beauty standards for Asian women. Which is another interesting subject…one (self-professedly Asian) commenter even outright stated that (paraphrasing) asian mixed with white, or Asians with stereotypically white features, are seen as the prettiest thing to Asians, like Kristen Kreuk from Smallville. The idea that female video game characters don’t necessarily have to be exemplars of cultural beauty standards… is still beyond the grasp of many Kotaku commenters, evidently. I mean, if you want chicks that look like pop idols as video game protagonists, all you have to do is… play virtually (npi) any other video game with a female character in it . It’s also sad that when the eyes were changed, the expression was also augmented from a defiant, strong expression (which we all know double eyelids are also capable of) into a slightly fearful and apprehensive one. Why would you want to play a character in an action game that doesn’t look prepared or assertive… because that isn’t quite as tailor-made for the male gaze in every single instance? *facepalm*

  55. theboxman wrote:

    Quote: one (self-professedly Asian) commenter even outright stated that (paraphrasing) asian mixed with white, or Asians with stereotypically white features, are seen as the prettiest thing to Asians, like Kristen Kreuk from Smallville.

    Yet, the right-hand picture does not look particularly mixed to me. Still Asian, just not stereotypically (from the standpoint of a Euro-American gaze) so, that is, not as Hollywood might cast an Asian character, but as how Shochiku might. In that sense, the left-hand picture then is still exemplary of cultural beauty standards, only that it is working from a different cultural imaginary (not that one is better than the other — both are fantasies, just different ones)

    What I find telling, ultimately, is the seeming lack of consistency in her facial features. Contrast for instance the top picture (with its softer, more childlike bone-structure) with the comparison images. It seems her only defining feature is that she is an Asian woman.

  56. Nina wrote:

    I prefer the one on the left. As far as her eyes, the ones on the left are a bit extreme, but as I have known plenty of people with eyes very similar to that, I dont think its unrealistic. Perhaps unrepresentative, uncommon, but not unreal.

    Cant win, can we? If its too non”ethnic” we complain, if its too ethnic we complain.

  57. Nina wrote:

    “Cynthia: I’m talking about the combo of the more child-like face with the big boobs, not just the figure itself. Does you face look like the image on the right ? So are you saying that with bra on you look *just* like the image on the right? I’ve met people with “young” looking faces but it’s a bit unusual to see with that kind of endowment. I think pairing girlish faces with womanly bodies (or dressing up young girls in sexually provacative ways) just encourages dirty old man syndrome.”

    Well, pedophilia isn’t being attracted to young sexually developed people but to actual children. And there are plenty of women who develop fully by 14 or so, so the combo isnt strange. I could pass for a teenager until I was 32, a girls face on a womans body.

    Having said that, I dont think we should encourage the infantilization of women or the promotion of nubile ripe girls as the sexual ideal.

    i really like the version on the left, she reminds me of a Lucy Liu or Sandra Oh. Women who dont seem to be caught up trying to fit a white ideal, who have what seem to be exaggerated (to western eyes) features and with Sandra, a very non typical figure.

  58. Nina wrote:

    @Cynthia, I don’t think that Celeste was implying that Left Faith’s figure was unsexy or that Right Faith’s figure is childlike (although please feel free to correct me, Celeste). I think it’s more that Right Faith’s childish face is very incongruous with the development of her body. By your own admission, it takes a very good bra to make your figure look similar - it doesn’t naturally look like that.

    Also, even if such a small-framed, slim girl had such large boobs, given the athleticism involved in parkour, it is ridiculous to think you’d be able to see Faith’s nipples (as you can in the picture of Right Faith) because she’d be wearing a sports bra. ”

    While I agree with the sentiment, I think the problem is that many here are making the mistake of stating things that simply are not factual.
    Large breasts and girlish faces are QUITE common and not at all incongrous. Female breast development typically is done by age 16, so women tend to have reached their full size while young.
    Sports bras may have a lot of scaffolding, but arent typically padded so nipples do show.

    It weakens the argument when you have good intentions, but your objections really arent factual. Women do have eyes that look like that, and breasts and faces that look that way. It happens.
    Is THAT the issue, or is the issue that they choose to idealize the more girlish figure rather than a stronger more adult figure?

  59. theboxman wrote:

    > Women who dont seem to be caught up trying to fit a white ideal, who have what seem to be exaggerated (to western eyes) features and with Sandra, a very non typical figure.

    But paradoxically, is that not arguably the “white ideal” in the sense that it is what appears in the mainstream (i.e., white) consciousness by their very prominent presence on television?

  60. Celeste wrote:

    “Large breasts and girlish faces are QUITE common and not at all incongrous. ”
    @ Nina: I am very aware that it is common to have a “woman’s body” with a young face. The girls in my cohort started developing in 6th grade. If the artist is actually purposedfully trying to portray a developed pubescent girl’s body, I personally don’t approve with the offering up of a pubescent girls body as eye-candy for a lot of adults. I’m not of the “There’s grass on the field so let’s ogle” mindset. From a law enforcement stand point I think pedophilia does include underage pubescent children. My problem is with the preference for images of pubescent girls image over images of confident adult women (Saying it’s more Asian isn’t so hot either). I don’t think it would be an issue if this preference for portraying women as sexy pubescent girls wasn’t so common. Her face looking young combined with the naive, perhaps uncertain expression combined with the large breasts doesn’t really evoke thoughts of “30ish y/o master parkourer with a young face “. If they had even given her a more serious facial expression it would have helped a lot. Alas, that would have made her seem too self-assured and, perhaps worst of all, less sexually available. I’m not saying she needs crow’s feet but showing more confidence would be a good thing.

    On another note, R Kelly may disagree with me but I can usually tell the difference between a buxom adolescent and a young looking adult woman, especially if they are speaking.

  61. Cynthia wrote:

    I’m not a video game fan, but is Faith SUPPOSED to be 30ish? Like it’s in the storyline that she’s 30?

  62. EvilAngelfish wrote:

    @Nina, was the condescension in your comment deliberate? Perhaps my wording struck a chord with you as Celeste’s did with Cynthia?

    “It weakens the argument when you have good intentions, but your objections really arent factual.”

    None of my sports bra are padded either but they do have extra fabric in the nipple area. I don’t know what brand you use, but please consider that your knowledge of what is “factual” is not complete.

    Of course breast development and other secondary sexual characteristics become more apparent during puberty and such development is usually complete before the girl is considered an adult. However, these changes are the physiological maturation of the body. As far as my original comment about the incongruity, perhaps I should have made it clear that what struck me as incongruous is that the illustrator who created Right Faith decided to improve upon the original by making her face look younger while making her body look more mature. I certainly did not intend to assert that people with “girlish” faces and developed bodies don’t exist (as I am one such person, albeit an adult). It also struck me that the only places the artist added fat were a) her cheeks and b) her breasts. Not an extra ounce anywhere else. Faith went from looking like an athlete to a Victoria’s Secret model.

    Also, I made no comment about Faith’s eyes so I’m not sure who you meant to criticize with your remark about that.

  63. EvilAngelfish wrote:

    According to the wiki at On Mirror’s Edge, Faith is 24.

  64. Jha wrote:

    I occasionally have large eyes like Right Faith. Usually when I’m wearing contacts.

    I love Left Faith because she looks… I dunno, more pissed off? There’s something about the way her facial expression is set.

    Also, since she IS doing the parkour thing, I WOULD expect her to have the body on the left, and I might have let the boobs thing slide if it weren’t for the obviousness of bralessness, which doesn’t reflect athleticism, but fanservice.

  65. Jha wrote:

    Also, that screencap is <3

    Cloth really DOES crinkle like that. The realism of her clothes on her body is wonderful. Just had to say, as someone who’s been working on a costume for the past while and realizing just how insane costume physics are (particularly on females!) when the characters aren’t real.

  66. Jen wrote:

    It’s very disappointing that someone would take the time to doctor an image of a female video game character and insist that the new image is representative of “Asian tastes,” as if all Asians were a monolithic, single-minded bloc. Furthermore, the claim that the first Faith is too “stereotypical” is an extremely weak justification for Photoshopping giant breasts onto her. What is stereotypical about the first Faith, besides perhaps the eyeliner emphasizing the shape of her eyes? She looks like a tough and street-smart woman. To me it’s the second Faith–with her young face and big doe eyes suggesting innocence and her visible nipple suggesting sexual availability if not arousal–that reads as a stereotype of an Asian woman: demure and submissive yet hypersexualized.

  67. Luis wrote:

    “I got the impression that the complainers meant less “Asian women actually look like that” than “Asians want women to look like that” (which is still anti-Asian racism!).”

    This is sort of getting to the point. Commenters on both sides of this are using “Asian-looking” to deflect from the real issue. Both images, as many commenters on this board have stated, look like some kind of Asian person. Where the debate really lies is on the issue of taste. This is what critics, like the Korean gamer who made the image, are really trying to say. The image he created better represents the tastes of East Asian gamers and looks more like traditional Japanese/Korean character designs.

    Critics are off-put by the visual style, specifically by what is seen as an insistent Western desire for realism in character designs. Most Japanese characters in Japanese games don’t look like real Japanese people, there’s a dissonance (I say most specifically, there are a handful of examples). Tastes have been formed that prefer what we see on the right. It’s not racism, it’s just good old fashioned sexism. It’s important to untangle Asians in America from Asians in Asia when analyzing the motivations of things like this. Colonialism has no doubt globally intertwined the -isms, but sometimes an issue is as simple as:

    Gaming culture in Korea is mainstream, but nonetheless driven by male 15-35 year olds. Therefore the visual culture of “hardcore” games are made to appeal to their particular fantasies, which, like brethren around the world, are tinged with sexism.

    It’s easier to launch a sexist argument under the guise of “these are our cultural tastes,” or “this is what Asian people really look like,” instead of “this is my ideal of a woman.”

  68. Luis wrote:

    Also, has anyone noted that her eyes and cheekbones, the few valid complaints, look totally different in the in-game model. The model in the game looks absolutely fine, her cheekbones are less severe and her eyes aren’t upturned in that way.

    So what’s really being argued is the box art, whether people know it or not.

  69. Restructure! wrote:

    Faith is supposed to be “Eurasian”.

  70. Restructure! wrote:

    By ““Asian tastes”, he probably meant “Asian male tastes”, which basically means “male tastes”. That Korean gamer, then, is complaining that the character design didn’t cater to the Male Gaze.

  71. Nina wrote:

    “@Nina, was the condescension in your comment deliberate? Perhaps my wording struck a chord with you as Celeste’s did with Cynthia?

    “It weakens the argument when you have good intentions, but your objections really arent factual.”

    None of my sports bra are padded either but they do have extra fabric in the nipple area. I don’t know what brand you use, but please consider that your knowledge of what is “factual” is not complete.”

    No, it wasnt intentional,. I apologize. My point was that in overgeneralizing, “thats not realistic because of X”, it sort of weakens the argument when X is not incompatible with the reality of the situation. My point was, as you said,perhaps YOUR (and other people’s) knowledge of what is “factual” isn’t complete or your statement would lead one to believe that.

    I’m not intentionally rude, I apologize. Its hard to soften my words online, though when speaking it comes across as intended.

  72. angie k wrote:

    @JLC Exactly. I have no problem with her being Asian but that seems the “safe” ethnicity for most video games if the characters aren’t white. If she’d been Latina of black then I’d be impressed and/or surprised.

    For what it’s worth I like both faces (but for this character I love the face on the left - she looks like she’ll mess you up if you get in her way). Body wise? Yeah, the big boobs are horrible. I have big boobs. I can barely run with them let alone toss myself off buildings. Big boobs when they are improbable for the character = epic fail.

  73. angie k wrote:

    @angie k Latina OR black… sheesh… typos…

  74. Lazae wrote:

    I’m a Chinese-American female. I hate hate *hate* the image on the right.

    Even leaving aside ethnicity considerations, there’s pure characterization issues to look at. Faith is an experienced athlete who runs a subversive underground message service in defiance of a heavily policed dystopian government. The image on the left looks like this kind of woman, someone competent and determined, fierce. The one on the right looks like she’s about to succumb to a tentacle monster with her schoolgirl skirt artfully flipped up.

  75. Celeste wrote:

    Lol! @ Tentacle monster

  76. Isa wrote:

    The hell? “Less sexy” character design responsible for poor sales?

    Faith is TOTALLY sexy. She looks like a real, competent, beautiful video-game lady, instead of an animated inflatable sex doll.

    Bah.

  77. Diana wrote:

    The image on the left kind of enforces the fact that all Asian women are incredibly flat and have eyes that tilt at an 70% angle.
    I’m Asian, and my face looks like the one on the right. It just frustrates me that people with smaller eyes than me make fun of how I have “chinky eyes”, and this game justifies it.

  78. Nick wrote:

    Diana, I don’t think the game is justifying anything. The character looks as she does. She has asian features, she doesn’t represent you or me.

    What I find weird is that the original complaint about her appearance came from a Korean gamer, and yet many of the comments here seem to suggest that it’s white male gamers who prefer the bigger busted protagonist.

  79. Nick wrote:

    I also feel like handing in my “guy” licence since the last thing I was looking at when I saw the picture of Faith was her chest.

    To me she looks like a reasonably realistic CGI image of a female human being.

    I must be getting old.

  80. moo wrote:

    the artists intention, which was to show what an attractive woman looks like through asian sensibilities, is spot on. i believe that the look of celebrities/models in asia do align with the second picture much more than the first.

    think to euro fashion shows with asian models who always seem to have that extremely severe face and needle thin eyes (more like 1st pic) and compare that to cutesy, doe eyed, baby faced women from any asian CD cover or movie (see: anne suzuki, liu yifei), or even the girl on the poster for your upcoming local asian nightclub dance party (more like 2nd pic).

    i’m not saying either are more accurate representations of what asian women actually look like, but it’s a valid point that there are distinct looks that both cultures find attractive… or maybe i’m totally wrong! kelly hu is pretty hot, zhang ziyi crossed over successfully, grace park especially in those fhm pics, riyo mori was chosen by japan to represent japan and won the very american miss universe competition and none of them would go in the severe looking needle eyed asian category (sorry lucy liu and sandra oh, you’re firmly in that first category). perhaps we do have good taste in asian women in the west! it’s just that maybe we just don’t know how to draw em pretty yet.

    which is fine, i think an asian artist would be more likely to accurately depict an asian person than some swedish team. seriously, i’ve never met any asian girl that looks like the chick from heavenly sword.

    having said all this, i think the artist should have left the whole breast augmentation business alone. it just sets the new image up as an easy target for claims of being superficial and contradictory (”oh, the asian man gives the asian girl bigger boobs which are so only a western thang!”) the whole breast issue is ethnically insignificant anyway, its not a race thing, it’s an individual preference thing. if changes had been left to the face only, people would be having much more interesting discussion on cultural perceptions of beauty.

    anyway, even though the boob job wasn’t necessary, i definitely prefer the second one.

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