Links – 2008-10-31

Sad news for Jennifer Hudson – her mother and brother were murdered; the shooting has been categorized as domestic violence. An Amber alert has been issued for Hudson’s nephew, Julian King.

Stereohyped reports on an ING survey that states black women give away too much of their income.

Transgriot points our attention to the story of Cindy Thai Tai, “the most famous transgender person” in Vietnam.

Racewire brings news of a new project by Josefina Lopez:

You probably know the Chicana feminist Josefina Lopez as the writer behind the play that went on to become the hit movie Real Women Have Curves starring America Ferrera. [...]

Her new play Trios Los Machos chronicles the lives and friendships of three men who first meet during World War II as guest workers under the bracero program.

As young men, Nacho, Paco and Lalo suffer the humiliations of being sprayed with DDT before being sent to work the fields. They find refuge in the music of Trio Los Panchos and start their own band, singing for the other braceros and embarking on careers as musicians.

Raquel Cepeda publishes an interesting article in the Villiage Voice on how “The N-Word is Flourishing Among Generation Hip-Hop Latinos”:

With Nas threatening to name his latest album Nigga (he relented, eventually, but most fans still call it that anyway) a few months ago, and iconic Latino artists from the authentic urban native Fat Joe to one of my favorite internationalists, Immortal Technique, still flinging it about freely, the word, its meaning, and our sense of who can and cannot use it still dominates public conversation. The palpable racial tension that’s been rearing its head this historic presidential election, the subject of race and who is truly considered black or white in this black-and-white race, is something Latinos need to pay attention to. For many of us, especially those of Caribbean descent who make up a sizable chunk of New York Latinos, race should matter, and so should that one particular word.

Personal feelings, premonitions, and politics aside, I took the two young boys’ exchange as an interesting opportunity, an exercise in thinking about Afro-Latino identity in an unlikely way: through a hip-hop lens. Aside from the fact that we’re in the thick of a predominantly Dominican enclave (for now) in our beloved Uptown Manhattan, and the first guy I’d overheard wore an oversized white T-shirt emblazoned with our motherland’s flag, homeboy could’ve passed for an African-American man on any other stretch of blocks stateside. By comparison, his comrade looked more like Fat Joe’s skinnier brother, with light eyes and pale skin. Was it OK, or more OK, for the darker-skinned kid to use the term?

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  1. Black vs White Saving Habits | cinna.mn on 19 Nov 2008 at 5:41 pm

    [...] Is it because African-Americans have a stronger culture of sacrificing themselves for their kids and families? (A recent study talks about how black women give away too much money (via Racialicious).) [...]

Comments

  1. Jessica wrote:

    Julian King’s body was actually found several days ago.

  2. Anonymous wrote:

    i’m sad to say this but your jennifer hudson article is a few days old…

  3. Keith wrote:

    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that news about Jennifer Hudson is a little old. The nephew’s body has already been found.

    They’ve also set up a foundation to help the families of murder victims:

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1598319/20081031/hudson__jennifer.jhtml

  4. DEAF FEMINIST PUNK!! wrote:

    anybody who is NOT black should not have the right to say the N word, period. It only makes you look like a stupid ignorant desperate moron and a wannabe.

  5. Celeste wrote:

    It’s tricky with Dominicans, though. They’re made from the same colonial recipe (African slave, european slave master, indigenous population and an occasional sprinkling of asian- voila) that african americans are. When I was in the DR, only my poor spanish gave me away. The phenotypes I would seen in one family ran the complete gammut from fair skin and straight hair to dark brown skin with kinky hair.
    My ex was of dominican descent but looked like a black man and experienced all the racism that goes along with it. So I wouldn’t begrudge the “priviledge” of using the n-word to people who only identify as african american.

  6. Mohammed wrote:

    Deaf feminist… Its not that easy to just say “any who is not black shouldnt say nigga”… first of all, what is the definition of being black? thats the main issue…. is it the ‘one-drop rule’ or is it anyone who is the descendant of slaves or is it any who defines them self as black or is it ome other reason? … the answer is, there really is no answer…because ‘black’ is a really diverse racial category…

    the article is eluding to the latino population of nyc, which is primarily comprised of latinos hailing from countries with strong afro-heritage… puerto rico, dominican republic, cuba, colombia, etc. Many of these latinos do in fact have african ancestry because their countries were also affected by the slave trade and a large majority look ‘black’ … and for that matter a large majority of african-americans in the U.S., themselves arent ‘pure’ black.. if you go back far enough in AA lineage, you’ll find something else…

    And for anyone who lives in NYC or is familiar with it, knowns it’s pretty common to hear latinos say nigga very matter of fact and freely… so this may really be more of an NYC thing where many latinos live in the same areas and amongst african americans in nyc… this probably has more to do with generational, socio-economic, and cultural aspects, more than a racial aspect… Most people dont even realize they say it anymore, its just part of normal vocabulary…

    Dont get me wrong, the word still stings when used in a hateful context or not used correctly, but its so normal to hear it nowadays, most times i personally dont even notice..When im around my peoples, who im comfortable with, i use it openly… maybe its to do with my generation flipping the meaning more than anything… and too alot of us there is still a difference between nigga and nigger… it doesnt make it right or wrong, but there really are more important issues and problems that need to be solved other than the n-word…

  7. Georgia Peche wrote:

    I think the N word should really die, we need to start gradually phasing it out completely. It is ignorant for anyone of any race to use it. Blacks have forgotten how long our ancestors have struggled to be free and what do we do with that freedom? We kill each other and put each other down. What happened to the unity we once had when we marched together for a better life for those who would come later. It is ignorant to say “we put a spin on it” and “we spell it differently, so it’s okay now. We are using a word that was used by our white slave owners to call us ignorant and to say we were nothing but animals. While we carried this country on our backs growing the food they ate and eventually being inventors of a lot of things that we use every day, the N word was all anyone thought of us and we still want to use it. There should be no question about it, the word must go away as soon as possible and no one should use it ever again it is just a word, but it carries too much weight.

  8. meranda wrote:

    Black or not, no one should be using this word!

  9. sasha wrote:

    um, deaf feminist punk, did you read the whole article? the issue is more complicated than that.

  10. Janine deManda wrote:

    I’m of a similar opinion in that I think epithets can only be “reclaimed” by folks they have been/are used against. I’m proud to call myself a dyke, and I’m clear that it means something very different when some ‘phobe screams it at me on the street.

    The issue raised in the linked article, though, brings up at least to a limited extent the problematics of determining who is “black” and therefore able to “reclaim” the word in question. Many of the emcees and hip hop heads mentioned were in part of African descent {or in toto of African descent like the folks in Accra} – does that qualify them? What if, like many African Americans, a person is in part of African descent, but is not perceived as phenotypically black? What if you are not of African descent, but based on your physical appearance, people assume that you are on the regular? The issues are complex, and to my mind, require more than a simple, dichotomous answer.

  11. Daniel wrote:

    Anybody who does not like the N word should come to the South Bronx. Once there, you will hear it used casually and blatantly by just about everybody. Such classics as “I’m gonna F that N up” are very popular as is “What’s up my N?” In fact, you might be amazed at how many times the N word can be used in a sentence. Feel free to come and lecture the people on my block. Good luck!

  12. Rchoudh wrote:

    It’s very sad hearing about Jennifer Hudson’s tragedy. I hope she and her sister receive all the strength and support needed to pull through this major ordeal. I also hope the police catch the criminal soon (some people don’t have faith in Chicago PD however so they wouldn’t be surprised if the case remains unsolved).

  13. browne wrote:

    I’m not so sure about non black people not having the right to say it. I think it’s all within the context. If you are in that teen to 24 year old group, I don’t know? It seems to mean something different. I hear Latinos who aren’t dark in LA who are into hiphop using it all of the time and you know I don’t feel like it’s bad. I can tell it is not malicious and it’s real how they use it.

    I think middle class people or people who aspire to that who aren’t from that world don’t get it and never will even if they are black.

    I have to say I am of a different school of thought on the N word. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal when kids use it and I think it’s silly that some “i’ve got 15 degree and live in an all white neigborhood, i have one black friend” people are so obsessed with the use of it among people in the inner cities.

    There are alot of things that need to be fixed before that.

    I would rather get rid of the b-word in that group of people than the n-word, because I have never head the b-word said with love or friendship, but the n-word I have.

  14. Peter Pixie wrote:

    Can I ask a question?

    On NPR Nov 1st, weekend edition:
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96402333

    Harlem is growing and things are changing.

    This is a snippet:
    Just three weeks ago, however, the city council gave the go-ahead for commercial re-zoning in East Harlem. Columbia University is beginning to redevelop a 17-acre swath of West Harlem. Local activists worry that Harlem’s uniqueness will be paved over.

    Nellie Hester Bailey, executive director of the Harlem Tenants Council, wants respect for the area’s history and residents.

    “Harlem has the right to remain as the historic African-American community. And that it wasn’t just a matter of blacks coming to Harlem, but it was a matter of public policy predicated on race and class that created the largest concentration of people of African-American decent in one location in the city of New York,” Bailey says.

    “And what came out of that was not pity, but rebirth. As they said at the time of the Harlem Renaissance, the New Negro, and that is worth fighting for as part of community and that is the community of historic Harlem.”

    So my question is this:
    Does Harlem really have the right to remain as the historic African-American community?’

    Am I undertanding this correctly as a double standard? It is not only OK but in fact the RIGHT thing for a traditionally white community to encourage, welcome and give incentives to non-white people but Harlem is exempt for the above mentioned reasons?
    http://www.brookings.edu/articles/1997/winter_communitydevelopment_ellen.aspx?rssid=race

    I truly DON’T know how to feel about it as I see the points of the arguement, but I also feel like the longer we hold these sorts of opinions we hold a future of being judged by who we are and not by the color of our skin hostage.

    I look forward to your feed back.

  15. Nicole wrote:

    The N word is a racial slur, so why do some colored folks need to justify who can say it? No one should want to say this word. It’s a slur, and I wish some folks could move past this turf war on who gets to use it. I think it’s a moot issue.

  16. em wrote:

    i taught in the south bronx for three years, and i heard the n word on an hourly basis. i towed the official school line which was–bad word, do you know where it comes from, don’t say it. this wasn’t effective at all, though. it didn’t matter whether the teacher was black, white, latino–the kids still said it, because it obviously meant something very different to them.

    i know that i–as a white person with no claim to a colonized or enslaved historical heritage–will not ever be using the word. my gut reaction is that no one should use it.

    but this reaction is quickly followed by this little red flag in the back of my head: aren’t there more important issues? at least more important issues where i could lend my efforts in a useful constructive way.

  17. gatamala wrote:

    peter

    do some background reading on the Fair Housing Act, restrictive covenants and redlining.

    If anything, this election and the reaction of certain segments of this society to a black man should tell you that the story is more complicated than trite MLK references

  18. Peter Pixie wrote:

    gatamla -

    It took me a minute to figure out what you were referring to in teh ‘trite MLK references.’

    If you were referring to my thoughts on how to I view others, I was merely sharing my personal thoughts the subject and hadn’t realized that my thoughts on that may have come from Dr. King.

    And I respectfully disagree about them being trite. I feel that all things come from ideas.

    Beyond that, I am trying to translate your response to me.

    Are you saying that Mrs. Baileys comments are in reference to Fair Housing Acts, redlining or restrictive covenants?

    I am truly interested in your thoughts on this but I do ask for, perhaps, a bit more connection with the thought that holding area’s racially seperate is a good thing when it comes to building social equality.