Indigenous Feminism and Cultural Appropriation

by Guest Contributor Jessica Yee

Last year, a friend of mine told me that actress Juliette Lewis started up a band and that their sound was seriously a rockin’.

I was like “Really? Cool!” since I’d always appreciated the versatility Lewis demonstrated in her acting craft with movies like “The Other Sister,” “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape?” or even “Old School.”

Off to Google I went searching for her website, when I came up with this image:

Oh no, not again.

Another appropriator.

A quick glance at their website and various other fan photo materials reveals even worse.

So then I typed in the words “racism” and “Juliette Lewis and the Licks” since I know sumbody’s prolly talkin’, and I came up with this open letter crafted online to send to her:

(Sent to the myspace account of Juliette and the Licks, in response to Ms. Lewis’ feathered-headdress-as-rock-and-roll-image.)

Hi Juliette (or if not Juliette, Hi Whomever Is Reading This Message),

Someone recently called to my attention how you use a feathered headdress as a part of your “Rock and roll warrior” image. I checked out your website and myspace - it seems like you’ve been using it pretty extensively, and how other people are imitating it at your concerts.

Heads up - the way that you are using of this symbol, which is a clear (and from the gist of what I read of your comments, intentional) reference to “native americans,” is careless and really pretty disrespectful.

I’m not writing this message to jump on your ass, or pretend like I’m some superior person. I have nothing to gain from that. And this has nothing to do with whether or not I like your work (from what I’ve heard, it sounds reasonably cool - kudos for following a different path).

I’m putting this out there because I can’t complain about anything anyone does if I’m not willing to back it up with some action that seeks to change things. And you should have a chance to learn about what people are saying, and change the behavior and (more importantly) the system that supports it, if you are so inclined.

You’re in a position to be heard by a lot of people, and the image you’re putting out there takes advantage of the painful history of native americans in this country without paying any respect to it. This is problematic in the extreme. (And I say ‘native americans’ specifically because your feathers refer to an idea and not any real tribe or nation, from what I can tell.)

You go, you person out there!

But it’s not like this all isn’t a usual occurrence. We in the Native community have to witness this with every kid who dresses up like Pocahontas on Halloween, or every time we turn on the TV to watch the Redskins, Braves, or Indians play. In fact it’s been going on for so damn long that we’re kinda the only race who it’s still happening to on this extreme, public level, to the point where the fight has basically died down. Or has it?

What I find most interesting though about all this imagery, and in particular Lewis’s choice of dress with her band, is actually coming from my raging feminist point of view. In an attempt to appear strong, raw, and unapologetic, people, and in this case, a woman, feels like she has to appropriate Native culture to a pretty extreme extent in order to do a good job of it.

And, as an Indigenous feminist myself, I’m at a crossroads on how I’m feeling about that, because I’m someone who recognizes that the strong, raw, and unapologetic womaness (or feminism for that matter) that permeates mainstream activist movements, in reality was rooted in Indigenous, matriarchal cultures around the world. (I’m tired of having to justify the matrilineal/matriarchal wording battle folks; women had respected positions of power and significance in leadership roles in lots of our societies, so let’s just stick with the matriarchy one, mkay?)

Although you might never even see any of that coming from many of the public awareness campaigns that exist in our communities to, for instance, stay away from drugs and prevent domestic violence. What I see most often are these docile, gentle images of woman and baby saying “Don’t do this, we’re precious!” which while I truly believe are totally valid and worth having, I’d be lying if I said that it wouldn’t be nice to see some of that brute strength and sheer fighter style representation coming from our own community, with our own women seen doing it.

I can’t always personally relate to these peaceful, calm images when I’m fed-up, can’t contain myself angry or feeling oppressed to the max. It’s actually funny that people still think we’re drunk savages who are so primitive in existence, since clearly from everything I’m saying here, I see the total opposite going on.

So why is it that so many of the women in my community don’t want to associate themselves with these shrill, pro-woman imagery tactics or identification? Is it just something that is factually inaccurate about us? Or is there some sort of gender-based, internalized oppression from White, Western, colonial folks going on?

I think it’s a bit of both.

One click onto the Native American House’s department at the University of Illinois will easily lead you to numerous videos from the 2006 Native Feminisms Without Apology conference. They are a constant inspiration and source of vindication for me, who has long identified as an Indigenous feminist to the chagrin of many naysayers, who think I’m just buying into “whitey’s” game and tell me rather vocally that “we don’t need feminism.”

(From the website):

The purpose of the conference was to explore the development of Native feminist thought in the United States and Canada.

Because relatively little has been published by Native women on feminist theory, the scholarly and activist public tends to over-simplify Native women activists’ theories about feminism, the struggle against sexism both within Native communities and the society at large, and the importance of working in coalition with non-Native women.

This seminar provided a groundbreaking opportunity for indigenous women to develop indigenous feminist theory and politics, and centered around questions such as: What is specific about indigenous articulations of feminism? How do these articulations vary among indigenous communities?; Many indigenous nations have instituted gender-discriminatory policies in the name of “tradition.” What do pro-sovereignty, indigenous feminists interventions into these policies look like?; How can critiques of gender oppression and violence be made central to anti-colonial, pro-sovereignty analysis and politics?

While the language of the conference was exceptionally academic (and obviously so since it was being hosted and participated by universities) the ideas and messages that came out of it were quite clear: gender has always been part of the discussion in many of our communities, and our women didn’t take things sitting down.

“Where are your women?” This is what we used to say to the Europeans when they came over to broker manipulative deals for our lands and resources, since it was totally out of order for women not to be present or be disallowed to even make these kinds of major decisions themselves.

Indeed, we are coming from this foundational being of firm woman power that we have so much to honour in and be proud of (that is sorely needed today!), but maybe we didn’t feel like we always had to project ourselves in such a vociferous light since that’s just the way things were, and we accepted it.

In comes colonialism, Christianization, residential/boarding/mission schools, and other forms of genocidal oppression that are still happening, and you now have a majority of tribes that are being lead solely by men, women who have lost their rightful title to the land and even status as being Native if they married outside the community, and soaringly high rates of sexual assault and violence against our women that surpass every other race.

So yeah, we’re in a bit of a perplexing bind where perhaps we don’t know how to identify with our strong woman beginnings since they’ve been A) stolen away from us and B) re-owned, re-furbished, (and I’ll say it) appropriated in many ways by the White, mainstream feminist movement who still rarely acknowledges us.

It’s all definitely worth reflecting on how different things might be if our next generations knew about where we came from and called on their ancestral female strength to make it through these gender-based oppressions that we nonetheless face. I think our job now is to find practical ways to translate all of this into modern terms for our young people to use so they can recover what past generations may have lost, and re-assert themselves as the resilient, fierce, ain’t-gonna-take-any-crap females we’ve always been. Who are also feminists!

And maybe even so Juliette Lewis can re-think her choice of dress the next time she decides to sing. Our culture is not up for grabs to exploit anymore, and it really never was. It’s disrespectful, it’s ignorant, and it’s simply not for her to do.

I look to my community now to reclaim our feminism and put it out there as it once was: strong, sexy, powerful, and most of all; unapologetic.

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  1. Jess wrote:

    I liked this a lot — and it lays out issues of cultural appropriation a bit more succinctly and clearly, I think.

    I didn’t know Juliette Lewis was singing. Have to say I didn’t think much of her performances in the movies I have seen of hers, (Cape Fear and Strange Days — in the latter she looks really, really outclassed by Ralph Fiennes and Angela Bassett).

    On sports names, I have to say I like baseball a lot, but the Indians logo makes me cringe a bit. Ditching it would help a lot, I don’t find the name itself too bad. Redskins, on the other hand…

    I think, though, to be a little fair to white feminists, who bear a lot of responsibility for not talking about issues of women of color (that’s changing) I can kind of understand why they might turn to a culture that at least looks like it values women in some sense over one that doesn’t. I’m not saying this kind of appropriation is a good thing, but it’s understandable, just as the counter-culture movement picked up a few Native themes and images as an attempt to find an alternative.

    I mean, think of black people who get on the Egyptian thing. (This shows my age, back in the 70s and 80s I saw it a lot more). Even though most African-Americans have no connection to Egypt or any of its historical cultures. A friend of mine came up with a great phrase — “Cathedral Envy.” The great kingdoms of West Africa simply didn’t build huge stone monuments — mostly just because the right kind of stone for that stuff wasn’t around — but granite monuments as evidence of a civilization’s greatness. (Probably because they are just visible and obvious uses of resources and wealth).

    So I see black fraternities and other people drawing on Egyptian imagery because its a Western idea of a great civilization, it happens to be located in Africa, and so African-Americans, seeking a way to affirm their own connections to something great, something that values them, start wearing ankhs and claiming connections to Egypt, usually with a mix of Biblical stories thrown in. Even though I think there is plenty to be real proud of from the culture of Gabon, Benin, or the Gambia river, it doesn’t have the same cachet. (And to be clear, I’m reporting my observations from the 70s and 80s, mostly, I haven’t seen the Egypt thing as much these days. If anyone can offer a reason for the cultural shift I’d love to hear it).

    All this isn’t to defend appropriation, but just to make some of it comprehensible.

    With Lewis’ use of that feather thing, though — well, damn, I haven’t done that one since I was a kid.

  2. Ailurophile wrote:

    You might be interested in the research of Max Dashu, who runs the Suppressed Histories website dedicated to the histories of women of color:

    http://www.suppressedhistories.net

    She is a wealth of information, and presents it in a respectful way. Incidentally, from Dashu’s review of a book called “The Myth of Matriarchal Prehistory” she notes Iroquois influence on founding feminist Matilda Joslyn Gage. Apparently our early white feminists (as well as Karl Marx and Friederich Engels!!) cribbed a lot from the Iroquois.

    Dianic witch Z Budapest has said that white women need to discover their own ancestral women of power, instead of appropriating other cultures’. Reading Marija Gimbutas is a great place to start - and the horrific backlash against her work is, I think, tainted with more than a little “she’s gunna give our wimminz Teh Ideas!”

  3. KuriusJurge612 wrote:

    Why? I don’t understand why people think that other cultures are jsut for “fun” or fad?

  4. KuriusJurge612 wrote:

    @jess
    I hear you on the black people and Egypt thing. I still cant stand how people say cleopatra was black-her family the Ptolemys were Macedonian.

  5. atlasien wrote:

    A bit of half-hearted Oppression Olympics on my part… when it comes to appropriation, it’s actually just as acceptable for white people to dress up as fake Asians. Witness the many stupid “geisha” costumes on sale for Halloween.

    But there’s no parallel to the sports mascot issue today. That’s far and above what’s inflicted on any other group in that arena. It’s just incredibly, uniquely vile and vicious.

  6. Natasha Vincent wrote:

    Hotep Jess (wink), you nailed the African diaspora connect with Egypt quite well. Never got it but you clarified some potential reasons for making the reach. Grab what’s easiest and universally understood.

    As for Juliette, the graphic made for a good giggle. Privilege makes people do some crazy stuff, for reals.

  7. lxy wrote:

    White Hipster Idiocy–Stop the Madness.

  8. CVT wrote:

    This was an interesting take on a specific brand of cultural appropriation - I wouldn’t have thought to take it to the semi-positive level of women appreciating the strength of position of native women.

    And, to be honest, I don’t know if that’s a valid explanation for what she’s doing here. More so, I’d imagine it’s just taking on the played-out idea of native (MALE) warriors - I seriously doubt that she is even AWARE of the place of women in native culture (because if she had the respect to look into any of that, I doubt she’d wear that damn feather).

  9. ieishah wrote:

    i have to say, a bit confused as to how any of the elements of lewis’s get up refers to either actual ‘native american culture’ or of the matriarch in native american culture or of the value of women in native american culture . . . now y’all have me saying native american culture, like such a beast exists.

    the feather, like the dot, is a symbol that reduces and cheapens many many really rich histories. it’s not, as far as i know, even a shorthand for . . . anything!! if anything, it’s more a symbol of white supremacy . . . or of the domination of native american cultures.

    but what do i know? my knowledge is limited to bury my heart at wounded knee and leslie marmon silko’s ceremony. which, by the way is a really good book.

  10. browne wrote:

    “Even though most African-Americans have no connection to Egypt or any of its historical cultures. A friend of mine came up with a great phrase — “Cathedral Envy.” Jess

    This is an excellent point. I’ve often wondered about this, because this is in fact appropriating a culture that is not yours. It’s not malicious, but you can’t just go to Africa and pick what you think is the “coolest” (and really the odd thing about all of this is that’s it’s picked because I think too many African-Americans the beauty of it seems the closest to the Western ideal in their perspective, which in itself is very problematic) and then just act like it’s you.

    I think Juliette is using Native American culture in a way that gives her power and she’s not meaning to be disrespectful, just like African-Americans who use Egyptian (Egyptian like I should say) culture to get power aren’t meaning to be disrespectful, but in the end it is, because you are playing dress up and you don’t understand the history and you never bothered to read or even talk to a person whose culture you are using as a costume to prove a point.

    At least she’s not trying to make money (which right there puts her ahead of lot of people), at least it’s her attempt to be artful. I think Juliette will listen. I think if she got the email she would stop.

    I think this is clearly a case of how positive stereotypes can go horribly wrong, which why all stereotypes are bad.

    Browne

  11. post-hipster utopia wrote:

    when, lord? when?

  12. Wanderinglady wrote:

    I realize that there are a lot of younger people who read Racialicious, so they probably don’t remember, but Juliette Lewis wore her hair in cornrows to the Oscars back in 1992. So “playing dressup” is nothing new for her.
    http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,613607_3,00.html

  13. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    Re “I can kind of understand why they might turn to a culture that at least looks like it values women in some sense over one that doesn’t”:

    How does wearing feathers and warpaint and shooting a bow and arrow equate to adopting matriarchal values? Answer: It doesn’t. Lewis isn’t trying to emulate the feminine aspects of Native culture. She’s trying to emulate the masculine aspects: the whole savage warrior stereotype.

    If Lewis performed some Native women’s ceremony, or even some Native women’s task (e.g., tanning hides, grinding corn, weaving cloth), I might be impressed. In reality, I’d be surprised if she knows anything about the role of women in Native societies. Her act is all about looking tough, rebellious, wild. She’s playing Indian for the same reason people have played Indians for centuries.

    P.S. See the following pages

    http://www.bluecorncomics.com/wannabes.htm
    http://www.bluecorncomics.com/stypolit.htm
    http://www.bluecorncomics.com/savagena.htm

    for more on the subject.

  14. Jessica Yee wrote:

    @ CTV

    You will notice that I didn’t say that I thought that Juliette Lewis was aware of what she was doing, in terms of knowing about Indigenous Feminism. I definitely concur that she has no freakin’ idea, which lots of white folks don’t when they appropriate stuff. Doesn’t make it anymore valid or right, but that’s what happens.

    She did knowingly, however, want to take on a strong woman, raw, edgy character personification, and like I said, that’s rooted in Indigenous, matriarchal cultures around the world. Hence the rest of the article on my perspective on that, and how I can parallel it to being Native myself.

  15. Jessica Yee wrote:

    @ Rob Schmidt

    I’m sorry Rob, but how do you know what all our women’s tasks are? There are over 700 different nations in North America, and you’ll find some women warriors that did exist in several of them. Kinda hafta to be in the community to know that though.

    My goal with this article was to expose what many of y’all don’t know, there were (and still are) women warriors , there are forms of Indigenous feminism, and just because Juliette didn’t know she was taking that on, just because this isn’t aren’t all well known facts, doesn’t mean that SHE DIDN’T, and certainly doesn’t mean I can’t talk about it and make the comparisons I see.

  16. ieishah wrote:

    damn, rob. co-sign!

  17. Atena wrote:

    @ browne

    Hi - I’m the person who wrote the open letter that Jessica quoted (thanks - I was so excited to find the trackback to my blog!).

    This open letter was sent to the Juliette and the Licks MySpace account. There was a response and some correspondence (not with Juliette herself, of course), and the end result is that she is still doing this.

    I have no idea if she actually ever even got the message. I kind of doubt it. And I have to admit that my execution of this experimental intervention was not perfect. If you go to my blog (http://antibias.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/letters-to-juliette-lewis/) where I posted the exchange in full, you can see all the details of the correspondence with whomever is answering J&TL’s MySpace e-mails. Make of it what you will.

    It should also be noted that my open letter was a response to another friend’s blog, which brought the whole thing to my attention (also referenced on my blog).

    Being an artist myself, I know how it feels when people tell you that your really cool art expression idea is actually not-that-cool. It takes a pretty disciplined artist to take that constructively.

  18. Atena wrote:

    PS - sorry that url isn’t an actual link - I can never remember the html rules for posting comments on Racialicious.

  19. Cecelia wrote:

    As always great post Jessica!

    I am going to link this to my blog!

    “I look to my community now to reclaim our feminism and put it out there as it once was: strong, sexy, powerful, and most of all; unapologetic. ” <– This is what I am all about too!

  20. gatamala wrote:

    Thanks Jessica & Atena.

  21. Mimi wrote:

    How is wearing corn rows dressing up? I can see how the feather band is insulting, but just because she wore her hair in corn rows somehow makes her racist? Maybe she just really takes the idea of a melting-pot to heart. There is nothing wrong with that.

    (Rob, yes, you should do research before you list the 3 things you can think of that women usually do… give me a break. )

    The Tainos (the ones given credit for the phrase “redskin” do to their red painted bodies for ceremonies witnessed during the colonization of the Caribbean) don’t even get credit for the words we use so much like barbecue, hammock, hurricane, canoe, etc… but just because we don’t get credit, or even techically exist anymore, doesn’t mean people can’t use what bastardized symbolism they want for profit or statement or whatever… it may make me cringe, but what’s the reasoning behind it? Are they trying to insult? They may be trying to pay homage and don’t know a suitable (less insulting) way how…

  22. Asada wrote:

    awee and I actually liked JL. She is one of the only current female rock stars that gets any mainstream attention without dumbing down what she says/does. Its really hard to find these…..

  23. Atena wrote:

    And more importantly,

    Jessica - well done! I have never heard the term ‘indigenous feminism’ before and I’m impressed with the way you’ve placed the tension between community identity/sovereignty and the need for women within communities to have access to power and their own identity/sovereignty that respects the community, but doesn’t efface them as people with rights and a diversity of needs and feelings. At least, that’s the way I read it. Lord knows there’s a lot for me to learn about indigenous perspectives.

    I hope to seek out more information on this topic - the intersectionality between anti-racism and feminism are definitely of interest to me (one of the reasons I heart Racialicious), and what you’ve posited here is a perspective that I haven’t encountered before. Thanks for piquing my interest in this way!

  24. Fatemeh wrote:

    GREAT POST! I love this!
    I noticed similar appropriation going on (on a smaller scale) with Devendra Banhart in some of his music videos: feathered headdresses, etc. It takes on a different meaning, though, because I don’t know whether he considers himself a feminist.

  25. browne wrote:

    Atena I will check out your link!! I’m an artist too and my initial response is always something that begins with the letter f and ends with the letter u, but after I calm down I do always think about it, but I think you have to at least pose the question. That makes it fair. My boyfriend and I have artistic differences and sometimes I get pretty angry, but in the end I am happy that he is not afraid to give constructive criticism.

    To no one in particular, I thought Juliette’s cornrows were beautiful.

    Browne

  26. Cara wrote:

    I have nothing constructive to add to that which has already been said, except for WHY OH WHY did she have to be wearing a John Lennon shirt (even worse, based on the title of a Yoko Ono exhibit) while also wearing that totally offensive garb? Sigh. Sorry, taking my Lennon/Ono fandom off to sulk elsewhere . . .

  27. Jess wrote:

    @Rob Schmidt– I wasn’t saying that a lot of white women understood native cultures, but just that when you see something that looks like it may value who you are in a way that’s marginally better, you grab at it.

    See the analogy to African diaspora and Egypt. The problem there is that many African-Americans see a big stone building, notice that western culture values such things, and then say “well, damn, connections to that seem to be the way I have to get any self-respect.”

    A lot of white women see a culture that at least looks like women are respected a little more (with all the caveats that this may or may not be reality) and say the same thing.

    Now, realistically, the position of women in Native America was all over the map. But that doesn’t alter the perception.

    But I don’t buy that whole “native people valued women more” blanket statement precisely because its the whole essentializing thing that drives me batty. It would be highly dependent on which culture, and what their environment was like and their history.

  28. Yvette wrote:

    I am a little concerned about this quick acceptance of “cathedral envy” to explain some Black Americans felt connection to ancient Egypt. I hope someone with more expertise can offer some other viewpoints.

    For my part, I never interpreted the thinking in this way. I have always seen it more as an attempt to take back Egypt from efforts to remove it from Africa. Also, I know there has been scholarship on migratory and trade patterns connecting Egyptian to other African cultures.

    Interesting that the subject of cornrows came up, because I see parallel. At one point, the mainstream called cornrows “the Bo Derek look,” totally erasing the hair style from the long history of African American and African cultures.

  29. Tiffany wrote:

    “but you can’t just go to Africa and pick what you think is the “coolest” (and really the odd thing about all of this is that’s it’s picked because I think too many African-Americans the beauty of it seems the closest to the Western ideal in their perspective, which in itself is very problematic) and then just act like it’s you.

    This is the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard in my life. Africans of the disporosa are connected to the whole continent of africa which includes egypt the original inhabitants of the particular country were black africans prior to INVASION keyword invasion. The cultural history of egypt has no similarities to this western world which oppresses black people the most so your statement has no logic.

    Africans are native to all of africa not just the parts you or white people want them to think they are native too.

  30. Tiffany wrote:

    “Interesting that the subject of cornrows came up, because I see parallel. At one point, the mainstream called cornrows “the Bo Derek look,” totally erasing the hair style from the long history of African American and African cultures.

    Exactly .. This hairstyle has been around from the dawn of time in africa by africans not europeans not arabs, not anyone else just us…

  31. Black Canseco wrote:

    “I think Juliette is using Native American culture in a way that gives her power and she’s not meaning to be disrespectful, just like African-Americans who use Egyptian (Egyptian like I should say) culture to get power aren’t meaning to be disrespectful, but in the end it is…”

    Uh, BS.

    Egypt’s part of Africa. When black folks talk about/embrace egyptian culture it’s in the context of reconnecting Egypt with the larger African continent and African diaspora. The disconnection has been the result of generations of white archeologists and historians concluding that for all Egypt’s riches–intellectual, archeological and cultural that it must be non-African, somehow and by extension, non-black. (No way some dark-sinned person created something as complex as pyramids, you know.)

    As for Juliette Lewis, she’s following a long line of Punk rockers who appropriated Mohawks and other indigenous tribal expressions as their own. Can’t remember any punk grown shouting out mohawk nation or any of the ethnic cultures they copped their looks from. No. Punk’s always gotten a pass on that level. Particularly, US Punk music/culture which has largely been the domain of bored, suburbanite/middle-class white kids who god forbid that they end up with jobs and bills like their parents.

    But such is the domain of the angry, bored white teen: every other culture exists as little more than a subserviant palette for you to express your own enlightenment/rebelliousness.

  32. Tiffany wrote:

    http://ebonyintuition.blogspot.com/2008/09/sub-saharan-africa-is-racist.html

    Sub saharan africa is a racist construction

  33. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    Let me chime in for a second.

    I agree with Ebony and Black Canseco. I highly doubt cathedral envy is even part of the story. People like to throw that idea out there, and subtlety reinforce the idea that blacks have contributed nothing to the world so they have to look to other civilizations for something to appropriate. But for many black Americans, we look at Africa as a homeland, as a place to relate to and potentially retreat to- and keep in mind, this practice happened before dnA tests were accessible and when pan-Africanism was cool. If you can’t actually trace your own lineage (as records were *destroyed* and* intentionally altered or erased* about where we come from, and you don’t have $300+ laying around to pay someone to trace you using DNA, embracing the continent is the next best thing.

    Now, I am going to close this line of conversation here - I can open up a different thread on the relationship between black Americans (or other blacks in the diaspora) and Africa, but this thread should focus specifically on Indigenous Feminism and cultural appropriation.

  34. brdnbutta wrote:

    I’m a super geek who subscribes to National Geographic and have to point out for those commenting on African American appropriation of Eqyptian culture that there is evidence that at least for a time, Black Africans were Egyptian Pharoahs.
    I do understand and generally agree with you comments but want to point out that the ancient world is quite complext and the things you think you know about cultures and groups of people should be a dynamic journey. I have attached the link and would love to hear what other think
    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/02/black-pharaohs/robert-draper-text.html

  35. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    @brdnbutta -

    Thanks for the link. I’ll make sure to include it when I open a new thread.

  36. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    I’ve been researching Native cultures for two decades, friends. Jessica Yee may know more about Natives than I do, but I’ll take my chances compared to anyone else.

    Yes, some of the hundreds of Native cultures had women warriors. And many of them didn’t. Of those that did, I suspect most of them didn’t let women wear feathers and warpaint. The upshot is that few if any cultures had women warriors who looked like stereotypical “braves.”

    We’ve heard a couple of guesses that I might be wrong. Now where’s the evidence of it? Because here’s some evidence that I may be right:

    http://www.amazon.com/Apache-Women-Warriors-Southwestern-Studies/dp/0874041546

    “Apache Women Warriors” challenges the popular literature and film stereotype of the passive Indian woman. Apache women were able to assume a variety of roles which gave them more prestige and freedom than most of their eighteenth and nineteenth century female counterparts. They were the main providers for their families, could attain and use supernatural power, and participated in raids and wars. A major portion of the study centers on Lozen, a warrior, said to have been the unmarried sister of the famous Warm Spring Apache chief Victorio. She allegedly possessed amazing supernatural powers and was an excellent equestrian and fighter. Only in the last fifteen years has Lozen emerged as a figure of interest in native American history. Women warriors were a relatively small, but by no means minuscule, faction among native Americans.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=rtRFyFO4hpEC&pg=PA341&lpg=PA341&dq=native+american+woman+warriors&source=web&ots=IhyUAoBJ_q&sig=O08gSoM4w3nyYAciwkajUFPiWMc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result

    The term “women warrior,” while commonplace, is misleading. To be a warrior was a lifetime occupation for Plains Indian men, but most women who went to war did not pursue a warrior’s life permanently. Many women went to war only once or twice in their lives. Others were married and accompanied their husbands on war or raiding parties, especially while the couple was young and childless.

  37. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    FYI, when we talk about the power of women in matriarchal Native societies, we’re usually not talking about their prowess as warriors. They achieved their power in many ways: by holding decision-making councils, heading and running clans, owning property, making marriage and divorce decisions, performing ceremonies with religious import, acting as shamans or healers, and controlling the means of production (food, clothing, etc.). They usually didn’t achieve their power by being as fierce and savage as men. Hence my suggestion that to honor Native women, Lewis should emulate one of these women’s roles and not that of a stereotypical warrior.

    Yes, it’s possible Lewis envisions herself as a modern-day Lozen, although I don’t see any sign of Apache iconography in her Halloween-style costumes. It’s also possible she’s mimicking millions of stereotypical Indian images in Western movies and TV shows, sports mascots, product labels, monuments, textbooks, etc., etc. Based on my intensive study of Native stereotyping for almost 20 years, I’m guessing it’s the latter.

  38. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    Re “Rob, yes, you should do research before you list the 3 things you can think of that women usually do… give me a break”:

    I wasn’t listing three things I can think of that women usually do. I was listing the most mundane women’s tasks to explain what would *impress* me. If Lewis humbled herself enough to emulate the routine work of many Native women, then I’d believe she truly wanted to honor them.

  39. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    P.S. I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that most Native women warriors didn’t shoot their weapons while going topless–as Lewis did in one photo. This is pure pandering to Western stereotypes of Native people, *not* honoring Native cultures because they’re more likely to respect women. If you disagree, tell us how posing as a sexy Indian maiden = adopting matriarchal values.

  40. Atena's Husband wrote:

    Cathedral envy? Are you kidding? Really I think your phallus/religion fixation getting out of hand.

  41. Jessica Yee wrote:

    @ Rob Schmidt

    Thanks for sharing that information. And heads up for cultural protocol if you know so much; you need to identify yourself and give voice to those who are actually Native if you are spending so much of your time researching us. I am personally very wary of what research is used for when it is not being owned, controlled, accessed, and possessed by Native communities themselves. Those are the principles of OCAP that the National Aboriginal Health Organization came up with here in Canada, I strongly suggest as a non-Native person that you take a look at it here:

    http://www.naho.ca/firstnations/english/documents/toolkits/FNC_OCAPInformationResource.pdf

    That being said, I think that the greater picture I was trying to paint with my article was taken too literally, and not really looking at what I actually said.

    I’ll repeat that I did not say that Lewis was aware of what she was doing. I did not say she knew about Indigenous Feminism. I didn’t even say that what she her choice of costume was a direct form of Indigenous feminism.

    I did however say that the IDEA of strong woman-ness, autonomy over sex, and unapologetic-ness of owning our gender are core values found within Indigenous matriarchal societies, and is something that mainstream feminism has tried to take complete ownership of. And I think she is putting herself out there trying to be those things, but using what she thinks are representative of Native culture to do that. I didn’t gender specify the aspects of her choices, and I don’t think she did either.

    What I wish people would also take note of is that we need to realize how far we are from having those things in the Native community today and how many of our women want nothing to do with feminism.

    This is when people need to get off their high horses of patronizing what you think is right and wrong, and listen up to us in Indigenous communities when we are trying to tell you something that we should freakin’ know about.

    At the very least, we are owed that.

  42. Joel wrote:

    Very good, a little winded but good. It seems every other race has had their share of the limelight and Natives are still looking for this. Though out of all these cultures none have stripped of their ancestral ties as much as we. A whole generation whom couldn’t live with their parents and therefore could not pass on their traditional knowledge, only to be told they were savages.
    Native women could not be accepted amongst themselves and thrown out into a world that did not accept them.
    The minority movements didn’t really heal this anguish either. African Americans only conformed with their struggle, as did the feminists generally. And to think of it, these movements only helped in the Western world - Africans in African still live in struggle, as do women in the middle east.

    Yet even in the Western starting point of human rights does remain the Native health stigma. We have all these benefits, superior to that of the ‘average Canadian’ yet, for the most of yet, we cannot live prosperously or incorporate ourselves into the mainstream culture. Did Whitey, feminism and all other human rights movements forget about us??

    Well yes, in our rich vast multicultural America, Native people have been neglected and frowned upon because noticeable indecencies - drinking, drug use etc. all because of parenting issues from the neglected former generation. Many live in poverty due to lack of education granted from this past generation - a lost generation that was under cared for and has yet to regain what has been truly lost, their identities.

    For ages we have been classified as Aboriginals or Natives. I’m worried about how Cree women where treated, Hopi or like myself, Inuit - how did each one face schools. Many bands were grouped together and each had varying treaty rights but to get down to the nitty gritty, we need to make complex but gradual steps to remember how women in each band acted with respect to parenting, positions within band and educating.

    I think these are some clear steps to remembering our past and possibly, one step to setting some clear goals to improving psychological care of the current generation and new generations of Natives to come.

    Nakumik,
    J-Owl

  43. Marcus wrote:

    @ Jess

    The analogy between African Americans and “indigenous feminism” is a very poor one. There is no correlation whatsoever.

    The difference is, African-Americans and Egyptians are actually both African in descent. They aren’t really “mis-appropriating” anything.

    In fact, alot of African-Americans I hear who go to Egypt are commonly mistook for native Egyptians. I haven’t heard a single case of this for European-Americans.

    You could have done better with white people and yoga or tibetan buddhism.

  44. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    Jessica, I was responding mainly to Jess’s first comment, not to your posting. That’s why I quoted him (her?).

    I identify myself as a WASP constantly on my website and blog. No one who’s paying attention has the wrong impression about me.

    But I’ve consulted with Native people all these years. I’m employed by a Native-owned business. I freelance for a Native-owned newspaper. I give voice to Natives by citing and quoting them often. And Natives overwhelmingly support my work. So I expect I’ll continue what I’m doing.

    More to the point, I didn’t say anything against your call for indigenous feminism. In fact, I’m all for it. I support all the strong Native women out there: Winona LaDuke, Wilma Mankiller, Elouise Cobell, LaDonna Harris, Carrie Dann, et al. Not to mention the ones I know personally: Arigon Starr, Joanelle Romero, Carolyn Dunn, Brenda Soulliere, Holly Cook Macarro, Joely de la Torre, Frances Snyder, et al.

    So I urge mainstream feminists to acknowledge Native feminists and Native women to reclaim their feminism. Don’t take any more crap from Native men or non-Natives like me. Rock the world, Native women!

    P.S. I believe Sarah Deer, one of the speakers at the 2006 Native Feminisms: Without Apology conference, considers herself a supporter of my work. For what it’s worth.

  45. Juan wrote:

    Same old, same old with white folk. One step forward (feminism) but four steps back (using and stepping on us to achieve their goals) and always made of fail.

    And what the heck is up with the highly disingenius, derailing and finger pointing “but black people do it too” shenanigans? Really now, people.

  46. Kathryn NicDhàna wrote:

    Excellent post! Thank you!

  47. NancyP wrote:

    The operative construct in Ancient Egypt was the Nile. The political and cultural affiliation was with location - upper Nile (south) and lower Nile (north). People certainly traveled upstream and downstream, and Pharaonic dynasties came from both general areas. Trade orientations were a bit different, as the lower Nile, particularly Alexandria, had contact with the Mediterranean. I would guess that the upper Nile region had contact with points further south and east.

    Perhaps “Mediterranean” and “non-Mediterranean” Africa would be more to the point? I suppose that Sub-Saharan Africa could be made into a racist term, but when I use it, I think geographically and culturally as “not much influenced by Mediterranean culture and trade in history”.

  48. basbleu wrote:

    Boo, Juliette!

    It’s pretty galling that in 2008, she would think it was groovy to hang her identity on “Indian-ness.” I tried to google up anything in which Lewis explains what the devil she’s doing (other than ‘playing Indian’), but I only got a BBC article which talks about Lewis’ “trademark Indian-style headband.” Appropriation sequence completed!!!
    And in the cornrows link provided, she said the hairstyle was “wild.” :rolling eyes:

    There’s a lot to be critical about in African-Americans’ (and Caribbean blacks’) uses of African cultural iconography. And oh yeah, there is some appropriation going on there. But as several posters have said, this is not analogous to white America’s historic passion for and hatred of Indian-ness.

  49. Natasha Vincent wrote:

    These appropriation conversations always suck me in. It’s fascinating to analyze and so easy to step on toes while doing so which is part of the learning fun.

    @Latoya Peterson, the new thread is much anticipated! Do tell, was this current one with Juliette part of the series you recently mentioned?

  50. Emmeaki wrote:

    Juliette in cornrows, Wanderinglady, I had forgotten about that one!

  51. Miss Lynx wrote:

    @Ailurophile (comment #2): While I very much agree with your comment that “white women need to discover their own ancestral women of power, instead of appropriating other cultures’”, Marija Gimbutas really isn’t a good source. The negative reaction her work has drawn has been not so much a “backlash” in a political sense as the result of it not being very academically sound. She fell into the trap that a lot of scholars of strong political opinions do — falling so much in love with her own theories that instead of basing them on the available historical and archaeological data, she ended up force-fitting the data into her theories, often by distorting it considerably.

    There are a lot of better writers out there that white women looking to explore our anccestral origins instead of appropriating other people’s can look to — but it’s different for each culture. One of the biggest weaknesses of Gimbutas’s work is that there was no one culture of “Old Europe” any more than there was or is one “Native American culture”. The best sources are going to be different depending on whether the culture you’re looking to learn about is Celtic, Norse, Greek, etc.

  52. Hokayshenao wrote:

    White culture and Japanese culture may seem boring to some, however, an appreciation of Gaelic and Irish has come slow to many ears. Music has an easier avenue to the brain. The literature is difficult to copy, but melodic in a poetic form. The supersticious and spiritual should not supercede the reality of the respect it deserves. I believe listening and consideration are the way to grow more tolerant.

  53. diza wrote:

    I dunno its complex isn’t it. Is it fair to say that julliet lewis can’t wear a feathered headpeice ??

    (which by the way isn’t even in the traditional style or uses the same type of feathers). It would be like someone wearing a bright pink plastic crown.

  54. Delux wrote:

    Black people have “cathedral envy”? All of them? Really? Which has what to do with indigenous feminism?

    So fascinating to see how alleged progressives will use any opportunity to air their contempt for Black people disguised as personal experience and informed analysis. (Jess, this means you.)

    Also interesting to see the way in which ‘allies’ will glibly go along with it.

  55. Eric Daniels wrote:

    I saw Cher do this in the 70’s with songs like half- breed so Lewis taking of the sqaw headress is kind of old if you ask me. Chaka Khan did it Rufus so to me nothing surprises me about Rock-N-Roll anymore. I have seen it all from 70’s funky minstrel bands trying to sound like extras from a bad 70’s Black Action movie . Like Norman Mailer said about white hipsters in “The White Negro” or in other words ” Indian Sqaw” rides again.

    And the Band does a good Iggy and The Stooges glam type sound but I don’t see the early Van Halen influence.

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