Who is Afraid of Sanctuary Cities?

by Latoya Peterson

Reader Kheng sent in this video, currently being aired in California. Kheng writes:

I am watching TV and I come across this commercial. It made me sick to my stomach. I don’t know if you want to feature it on the blog, but I found it quite offensive and I am surprised it even aired.

After checking out the video, I can see what she means:

Text:


Californians are a compassionate people.

Our sanctuary cities defy state laws, so we can protect illegal aliens – even though they are named in 95% of outstanding homicide warrants in L.A.

Even though they are wanted in up to two-thirds of fugitive felony arrest warrants. Illegal alien gang members get back on the street because our cops can’t ask immigration status.

Have sanctuary cities taken our compassion too far?

Share your opinion at Capsweb.org.

Paid for by Californians for Population Stabilization.

I know y’all loved the standard issue Latino gang member (complete with red bandanna and mustache) and promises of property crime. They even made sure to show they were not being racist – they used a picture of a black cop! (But, on second glance, that cop looks kind of blatino…maybe the LAPD is on the side of the illegals!)

Okay, all joking aside, I’ve been seeing this “illegals are murders” meme popping up a few different places now. So let’s focus on the statistics that are cited in the video. Are the numbers cited true?

There has been a lot of discussion about the cost of undocumented im/migrants in California. The governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, broke with his state party interests earlier this year when he condemned scapegoating California’s budget woes on undocumented workers.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger called it a “big mistake” Wednesday to blame illegal immigrants for the state’s looming $8 billion budget gap, just as Republican lawmakers have proposed a rollback of benefits for illegal immigrants to save money.

The Republican governor was pitching his long-term budget solution in San Luis Obispo when Diane Blakeslee, mother of GOP Assemblyman Sam Blakeslee, asked Schwarzenegger how the state should handle financial burdens created by illegal immigrants.

“There is, you know, always a time like this where you start pointing the finger at various different elements of what creates the budget mess, and, you know, some may point the finger at illegal immigrants,” Schwarzenegger said. “I can guarantee you, I have been now four years in office in Sacramento, I don’t think that illegal immigration has created the mess that we are in.”

Assembly Republicans this week promoted nearly two dozen bills they said would reduce the “negative impact” that illegal immigrants have on the state budget and border security.

The financial cost of illegal immigration has been a hotly debated topic, particularly in California, which receives some of the highest rates of entrance in the country. There are some estimates on how much illegal immigration costs California each year, but these numbers are often debated because the calculations are based on a few different assumptions, as it is difficult to supply hard census data.

The Public Policy Institute of California published a “Just the Facts” paper on immigration with the following note:

Note: No representative national or state surveys provide an accurate direct count of undocumented immigrants and their characteristics. The most credible estimates use a residual technique in which undocumented immigrant populations are estimated based on subtracting estimates of legal immigrants from estimates of all immigrants

So, the population of undocumented migrants is difficult to pinpoint. And yet, somehow, the CAPS video was able to definitively state that undocumented immigrants compose “95% of outstanding homicide warrants” in L.A.

Unsurprisingly, I was unable to find any information to back up this claim. However, I did start investigating homicide rates in California. The most recent data from the Office of the Attorney General, California Department of Justice indicates some sobering statistics:

From 1997 to 2006, the largest percentage of homicide arrestees and victims were Hispanic.

Hey wait, what’s that? Homicide arrestees and victims? Interesting.

The report goes on to mention:

* Of homicide arrest rates, 41.7% of males arrested were Hispanic (820/1732) and 4.6% of women arrested were Hispanic (90/235). (p.8)

And another note of interest:

Comparing 1997 to 2006:

* The male homicide rate decreased 9.0 percent and the female homicide rate decreased 21.4 percent.
* The white homicide rate decreased 12.9 percent, the Hispanic homicide rate decreased 25.2 percent, and the black homicide rate was the same (p. 12)

So, just from the limited data available, I am finding it hard to see where that 95% number would be accurate by any stretch of the imagination.

I logged on to the CAPS website to try to get a data source. Nada. I was able to see tiny print during the video that mentions the 95% figure which looks something like “2008 Congressional…” Does anyone have any idea about where this report could have come from? A Washingtonian myself, I tend to be skeptical of Congressional Reports, as half are written by the people/lobbyists/corporations trying to influence policy in their favor.

Thoughts?

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Comments

  1. Lisa Harney wrote:

    I suspect this is one of those “damned lies” that falls between “lies” and “statistics.”

    Googling fails me at trying to locate this study.

    Caps.org claims some interesting things, like:

    More than 98% of California’s Population Growth In The Last 10 Years Was Due to Immigration.

    * Most Californians are barely replacing themselves
    * Most Californians are having less than two children per household
    * But many immigrant families are averaging more than 2.9 children per household

    Of course, it doesn’t say these people had immigrated illegally, nor does it actually describe how much population growth there really was. The omissions leave a nice context-shaped hole.

    These two immigration facts are odd:

    In recent years, we have permitted over 1 million legal immigrants per year—over 4 million when you add illegal immigrants to that number.

    and

    Immigration drives virtually all of California’s current population growth. Last year alone, California grew by 438,000 more people.

    I think they’re making up the numbers as they go.

  2. Slush wrote:

    A few things:

    1. Obviously, “Hispanic” rates of anything are not well correlated to “undocumented immigrant” rates of anything because these are entirely different categories with only some overlap. Especially in California.

    2. Outstanding homicide warrants means those who haven’t been caught. So even if 95% is true, it could quite easily refer to very few actual people, assuming LAPD does their job well. And, it would only show that out of the homicide criminals that there are, undocumented immigrants evade police better (which they probably do in general, if they can). It does not say much about how many undocumented immigrants actually commit homicides to begin with.

    3. Generally law enforcement is divided between state and federal responsibilities. The federal government cannot force state or local police agencies to be responsible for enforcing federal laws, it’s against the constitution. This doesn’t mean local agencies can’t help feds, it just means they can’t be required to. But immigration is federal law, which is why it’s perfectly legitimate for state and local law enforcement to deal with people as people and ignore their immigration status.

  3. Lisa Harney wrote:

    Oh, and that first set of numbers I quoted is clearly aimed at invoking fear of a latin@ majority in California, that white people won’t outnumber them much longer.

  4. Lisa Harney wrote:

    “Latin@” even. Stupid shift key.

  5. Erica wrote:

    Anything named “[whoever] for Population Stabilization” just makes my blood run cold. Especially when they’re comparing reproductive statistics between “Californians” and “immigrants.” Ewwwwww.

  6. Lyonside wrote:

    Slush – I think your interpretations are dead-on. I can enter a debate on teen safety and curfews, and claim that 100% of the children in my home are safe at home every night… and I never have to tell you that I have ONE kid, 18 months old, do I?

    >Californians for Population Stabilization.
    Wow… so this is what the Minutemen/Klan is masquerading as these days?

  7. gatamala wrote:

    95% doesn’t even sound rational. There are a whole shitload of people born in CA that kill folks (e.g., Ramparts division).

    This is why I’m so skeptical about the population control crew. While growth is a valid concern, these proponents will eventually show their asses (like in Lisa’s 1st quote).

    And the black cop (Ramparts?)…why didn’t they just have the gang member just shoot the guy?

  8. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    Even if the “illegal aliens are named in 95% of outstanding homicide warrants in L.A. ” claim is true, it’s probably bogus. Consider all the ways we can qualify it. Named…as perpetrators, victims, even witnesses? Homicide warrants…as opposed to homicides in general? Outstanding warrants…as opposed to completed and filed warrants? In LA…county or city?…as opposed to elsewhere in Southern California?

  9. oterhog wrote:

    I’m having a hard time understanding how undocumented immigrants are drain on California’s economy. I’m guessing that undocumented folks living there cannot access food stamps, medicaid, TANF, etc. and it appears there aren’t gazillions of people without papers in the CA prison system. The udocumented people I know work and pay their state and federal taxes (without the ability to get a tax refund every year), stay out of trouble with the law, and buy stuff here. So, do organizations like Californians for Pop. Stabilization (who, by the way, frequently advertise in liberal magazines like Mother Jones using the whole “immigrants come to the US and destroy our environment” argument) have some other argument for why undocumented immigrants cost the state so much money?

  10. Thea Lim wrote:

    Thanks for the smart, calm, reasonable breakdown of this nonsense Latoya, you:
    1) just showed how ignorant and alarmist CAPS are
    2) totally didn’t sink to their level in any way.

    :)

  11. DEAF FEMINIST PUNK!! wrote:

    wow. the video is so racist. fuck that shit.

  12. Mike wrote:

    One of the reasons that tempers are especially high right now has to do with the slaying of Jamiel Shaw. Many contend that the LAPD’s policy of never asking about immigration status (known as Special Order 40) allowed his killer, a violent gang member and illegal immigrant, to remain in country.

    There is a movement afoot to end Special Order 40.

    Because of Special Order 40, I think some of the statistics that the video quotes would be difficult to gather in the city of Los Angeles. Immigration status is checked for those that are actually convicted and jailed, but, not before, if I understand correctly, because the jails are the county, not the city.

    Some stats from the LA Times. This year there were 501 murders so far: 25 asian, 156 black, 278 hispanic, 40 white. This is for the Los Angeles County (not the city). Apparently this has been the quietest summer for murder in 40 years.

  13. Kheng Tan wrote:

    Thank you for posting this. I am so proud to be a Californian, but ashamed to see this hateful group spew their hate. BTW, I am a girl :p

  14. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    @Kheng – Damn, my bad! I just fixed it.

  15. Una wrote:

    This video looks like a parody Stewart/Colbert might make!

    I think the 95% statistic (wherever it comes from) is stated in a misleading way. The video says that 95% of outstanding warrants are for illegal immigrants…that is, 95% of the people whom the police don’t catch are illegal immigrants. This is easily explainable in non-racial terms: illegal immigrants (and US citizens for that matter) flee to Mexico without fear of extradition back to the US because extradition is only granted if the suspect will not be sentenced to death or life in prison. Same for the 2/3 fugitive arrest warrants.

    What I feel this video hopes is that we misinterpret the statistic to mean that 95% of murders are committed by illegal immigrants. It appeals to emotions rather that reason.

  16. Una wrote:

    Just to add…this whole argument about “immigrants drain the economy” is a steaming pile of crap. It’s been around forever, but was previously used to justify curbing legal immigration. The fact is that every person requires more jobs to be created to support their existance. More doctors, bus drivers, teachers, etc…Ironically, the more border security required, the more people employed by border security! And of course the more people there are in a country, the more total spending power there is…which, we are ceaselessly told, is great for the economy.

  17. Lyonside wrote:

    >It appeals to emotions rather that reason.

    Which is how most racist outfits operate to begin with.

  18. fash wrote:

    The 95% statistic comes from a bogus report which has become a popular email meme among the anti-migrant movement. http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewArticle.asp?id=23096 It’s pretty much immediately invalidated in the first line, with its claim of being a 2006 INS report…by 2006, INS no longer existed. This post here goes over a bunch of the claims, including the 95% thing in reply 12: http://www.alipac.net/bored/index.php?topic=384.0

    Another “statistic”: they like to cite is that undocumented migrants murder 12 Americans every day and kill 13 more in drunk driving accidents, which is based on unbacked comments by Rep. Steve King of Iowa http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html

  19. gatamala wrote:

    If illegal immigrants REALLY were a drain, i.e., their actual use of services offset what they brought financially…they would not be allowed in.

    I wish people wouldn’t get it twisted. Folks come b/c there is work and nothing back home. I’d say the price of labor is set more by what we are willing to pay (more than earned back home) than what they are willing to work for.

    Folks are ALLOWED into the US because it makes businesses $$$. From WalMart to farmers to money transfer outfits and banks (remittance fees or no social accounts).

    There are forces at work that are even bigger than prejudice.

  20. Whitney wrote:

    As a Californian, I have to say WTF???

    Yes, all illegal aliens are Hispanic, and all of them belong to gangs, and all of them commit crimes.

    Right.

    Oh, and don’t forget about the whole “Californians are a compassionate people” and then crank this crap out.

    ::headdesk::

  21. Tablesaw wrote:

    The LA Times addressed this factoid a few years ago: http://townhall.com/columnists/LindaChavez/2006/08/23/banishing_factoids

    The original article seems to be here: http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

    This article does not cite a source, and in fact adds, “Good luck finding any reference to such facts in official crime analysis.”

    If someone does manage to read the fine-print citation, they will most likely find that the factoid was repeated there without citation.

    Since the LAPD doesn’t track immigration status, the original factoid was either fabricated or reported as a statistic when it was actually a hyperbolic quote from someone (almost definitely an unofficial someone) in the department.

  22. Neema wrote:

    I think I started hearing these things when the ICE started addressing MS-13 at least 4 years ago. I believe they’ve been using the same facts for a while now.
    on one of the links, someone posted something by Heather McDonald and the manhattan institute. Here is a quick link to where I started to hear it.

    http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mac_donald04-13-05.htm

    I just want to start seeing the costs of corruption in LAPD, and how much the IAD spends to investigate. That is probably a much bigger drain to our economy than anything we feel like blaming on America’s noncitizens.

  23. Mitch wrote:

    What needs to be done to end half of the homicides in our urban communities. I am shocked at how a person can be gunned down for nothing?
    What happened?
    Is it rectifiable?
    I grew up in a safe black community that I miss.
    Is Ronald Reagan administration to fault?

  24. Victim wrote:

    Ummmm, actually, undocumented immigrants do receive TANF and other programs in California. I can believe the high crime rate because I have personally been extorted by undocumented immigrant gang members who expect residents in our SF Bay Area neighborhood to “pay taxes” to live in our homes. After we refused – and even talked to police about a vicious mugging when they canvassed door to door – I was accosted and informed that they did not like our talking to the police and we should pay up and refuse to talk to police in the future; when I told them that not only would I not pay, but I would continue to talk to the police when they canvassed, well, one of our cars was rammed and overt threats were made just to make sure we understood. The neighbors were annoyed with us for not complying with the wishes of the gangsters because they felt that they might be injured during any reprisals – it was explained to me that since the criminals were undocumented, that no measures could or would be taken against them by police, and that I was “endangering” the entire neighborhood with my “attitude”. Fortunately, we have already built a house in another state and intend on moving promptly.

    California had a very unique effect on this Washington state native and former Democratic Party Precinct Committeeperson – I am now registered in another party and have become a life member of the NRA after discovering that the criminals had any weapon their little hearts’ desired to threaten me with and I could not get a permit even when the gang threatened reprisals for talking to the police when they canvassed door to door.