U Go Gurl: Traveling As a Black Woman

by Guest Contributor Margari Aziza Hill, originally published at Just Another Angry Black Muslim Woman?

Most travel books don’t prepare Black Americans for the experiences they will have abroad. Ever since I first traveled abroad, I have been bemoaning the lack of resources for Black women who want to see the world. I receive frequent emails from Black women who are either planning to go abroad or are already abroad and looking for resources. Last year, I suggested that someone should compile our stories so that I could support other sisters who want to travel abroad. That’s why I was happy to find this web resource,
U Go Gurl and the book, Go Girl.

FINALLY A TRAVEL BOOK FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN.

A rich collection of fifty-two stories covering the globe. Sister-to-sister advice on everything from destination selection, to traveling solo, to saving money on airfare. Exploration and discussion of issues of particular concern to black women; dealing with racism, overcoming fears, claiming entitlement, etc. The book also includes a planning guide and a resourceful guide.

Maya Angelou tells the story of arriving in Africa a stranger but leaving claimed as a member of the Bambara tribe. Evelyn C. White writes about finding new pride in being black after visiting Egypt. Opal Palmer Adisa evokes the sights, sound, and aromas of urban Ghana where she traveled to meet her lifelong pen pal. Lucinda Roy brings alive the year she spent teaching girls in Sierra Leone and talks how the villagers’ friendship overcame her loneliness for home.

Alice Walker offers a quite meditation on how the beauty of the country stirred her imagination. Audre Lorde captures her experience of being refused entry to the British Virgin Islands because of her dreadlocks. Gwendolyn Brooks recounts the camaraderie and tensions of a trip to Russia with a group of American writers. Gloria Wade-Gayles explores the complexities of being both an American and a woman of color as a paying guest in a Mexican home.

“Whether traveling for escape and relaxation (”Sailing My Fantasy”), on a spiritual quest (”Red Dirt on My Feet”), in search of a mind-expanding, life-changing experience (”The Kindness of Strangers”), as a “going home,” finding one’s roots (”Before I Was a Bajan”), to find relief from racism (”Why Paris?”), to celebrate black culture (”In Search of Black Peru: Christmas in El Carmen”), to honor black history (”Visiting Nannytown”), to reach for understanding across cultural barriers, (”Japan of My Dreams”), to help others (”Seeing Things in the Dark”), or to open up new possibilities in one’s own life (”Genesis of the Traveling Spirit”), the travel experiences chronicled in Go Girl! will delight, enlighten, and inspire.”

I’m very excited to read the articles, as well as make a contribution to the site.

This is especially true in light of my many awkward social encounters while abroad that have somehow involved race. I’ll try to outline some of them, as well as stories my friends have recounted.

When I went to Durham England to do research for a week, I really felt like things were going pretty well and I was not confronted by awkward racially charged moments. I was satisfied with my research experience, the staff at the library and archive were very nice. I had many quiet walks through the half empty town and along the river. Nobody really talked to me, except during breakfast at the dining hall. On my last day in Durham, I had a conversation with a British man who either worked at the library or in the dining hall at the castle/hostel where I was staying in. I commented on the city’s quaintness, the beauty of the campus, my pleasant stay in a castle, and of course the library and archive. I was also interested in the Sudan studies program and getting a PhD in the UK is much faster then the unbearably long, endurance test that passes itself off as a PhD in the US.

Light heartedly I said I might return to Durham as a student in in a PhD program. The man said, “well that might be hard for you being that you’re black and people aren’t used to seeing Blacks in these parts.” I felt like saying, “Thanks for reminding me that I’m Black, for maybe drawing attention to all those awkward exchanges in stores or in restaurants, the extra looks I receive, all the things I ignored just to make the trip more comfortable. Thanks for highlighting that I can never fit in or fully comfortable in your country.” But I didn’t. Instead I tried to be pleasant and we ended the conversation shortly after. I liked Durham a lot less.

Traveling while Black in many parts of the world can expose you to some amazing experiences that help you put America’s racial dichotomy in better perspective.

In the Aswan region and Nubia, the Nubian vendors would call out, “Nubian! My cousin!!” In Marrakesh, some vendors pumped their fists, shouting out, “My sista!” Little kids would come up to me and ask if I was Moroccan. If traveling with Egyptians, I can get Egyptian or Moroccan rates as long as I don’t open my mouth and say something. Traveling incognegro can be beneficial. Sometimes people are even nicer. Egyptians, for example, love Barack Obama. They will talk endlessly about him. Sometimes there is solidarity, and that can be nice. Most of my travels have been in the Middle East, so there is often a Muslim solidarity that helps bridge the racial and cultural divide. When I was flying from Alexandria, Egypt to Kuwait, my carry on was way over the weight and size limit. The clerk at first was going to charge me, then he said, “Okay, you go! I like American Black Muslim!”

At the same time, you will find that racism is a global phenomena and that you may get a different reception than your white, Asian or Latino/Hispanic/Chicano counterparts. Sometimes it’s subtle, sometimes not so subtle. My friend who traveled to Spain said she would get approached by men who assumed she was a prostitute. One young man who went to France said that the French treated him like he was stupid until they found out he was American and then they just treated him like #$@*. When I traveled to Sharm al Shaikh, I was constantly stopped asked what room I was staying in. My roommate who was a stunning brunette with bright blue eyes, on the other hand, was never stopped and asked. She was the one to notice pattern.

At airports and security checkpoints, guards take extra time examining my passport, in disbelief that I was really American. In fact, most people find it hard to believe that I am just plain ole Black. I often say in broken Arabic, no may family has been in American min zaman (for ages). Also traveling in the Middle East, you may get anti-African sentiment due to illegal immigration from Sub-Saharan Africa to North Africa. n Europe, people can think you’re illegal. This is why I hold on really tight to my passport. Try to get on a flight to Heathrow with all those stickers from the Gulf, Morocco, and look phenotypically North African or from some “Moozlem country. You may just get detained as they run some background check, miss a flight for r no particular reason except you look like a possible terrorist. Don’t travel to all the “hot spots,” as the British intelligence officer who interrogated me as I was running late for a flight, called them.

People can say racist things also, especially the brats that run the streets. I was in Kuwait in a Bedouin neighborhood with my friend and her daughter on my way to a Mawlid. And these Bedouin boys were staring at my friend’s daughter and she at them. They made faces at her, she made faces at them. And I heard them say withing like “….Abeed!” My friend seemed to ignore it, and my friend’s daughter said, “They’re rude!” I was pretty hot, but at that time, they were really tired of my anti-racism tirades. So, I just made a mental note that bedouin kids who live what basically amounts to Kuwaiti projects (even thought the projects are much fatter than you’d ever have in the states), are racist little #$*$!! In Egypt, depending on how you look, kids and ignorant people will say rude and racist things. A European student studying at AUC said her friend came to visit and people would make monkey sounds. My friend’s husband has a Black British friend who was always asked the time. The thing was they would get a kick out of him lifting his shirt and still being really dark. And they’d go and laugh and laugh. Also, in social circumstances, you could have some awkward conversations where people say things that wouldn’t fly in America. People may not pay any attention to you, while they fawn over your paler friends.

Further, Europeans and Americans can assume you are just part of the landscape. You’re that native that needs to move out their way as. One time I was traveling with my friend from Bahia. We look very similar and people often assumed we were Moroccan, maybe from somewhere in the South. On our way from Casa Blanca to Fes, we found some British people were sitting in our seats. So, we were looking at our tickets and them. Mariah said, “Umm, these are our seats.” I was trying to speak to them in my clear American diction. The young couple just looked at us blankly and the crusty old man blurted out, “Doo Youu Sbeakk Frrrench?!”

I said, “No, I speak English!”

What really pissed me off was that he didn’t hear us because we were brown. He assumed that our non-British accent meant that we weren’t fluent speakers. Our brown skin rendered our language incomprehensible, as well as our rights to the first class seats that we purchased with our hard earned money.

Like the Sharm experience and the train, people may assume you are a migrant worker, refugee, or just have less money than your paler counterparts. Or they may doubt that you belong. I find it troubling that sometimes I have to talk in extra loud English to get some attention. This works wel in Kuwait because they love Americans. While your friends may be able to get their American privilege, you have to assert yours. “You better respect me, my country rules the World!” sometimes to get some your needs met. One of my friend advised dressing to the nines all the time. She said she dresses almost like a princess and spends lots of money. Then people treat her well. I’m not saying that you want to flash your passport or a fat stack of local currency. But really, you have to keep in mind that how people see you in the lands that you are visiting can shape your experiences in that country.

I definitely have to follow this up with a traveling as a Muslim woman, that’s a whole different trip.

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Comments

  1. Cynthia wrote:

    Magari,

    I don’t get the part where you were referencing your experience in the Nashwan region. Were the locals assuming that you too were local or that you’re foreign? Because I would assume that they’d think the latter. I cannot be incognito in Hong Kong and neither could my mom, who grew up there. Both of us speak Cantonese with the local accent, yet sales associates will speak to us either in English or Mandarin. There’s something about us that isn’t “local.”

  2. Antonio wrote:

    I’ve been interested in foreign travel recently and as a black man I’ve wondered what troubles I might encounter that whites might not. I found a lot of substance in this article in that locals frequently assumed you were somehow “less than” because of your skin color. Are there similar resources for black men?

  3. Evan wrote:

    My question is the same as Antonio’s. Is there a resource out there (preferably online) that gives advice for people “traveling while black”?

  4. Margari Aziza wrote:

    Cynthia,

    In the Aswan region of Egypt, people are much darker and intermarry with Sudanese. So, when they’d see me coming from a cruise ship, shop owners would shout out stuff. They didn’t assume I was local, since I was visiting within a tourism context.

    As I said, people sometimes thought I was Moroccan until I began speaking. So, my Moroccan friends would take me to stores and I’d point out what I wanted and they’d negotiate. Same thing in Egypt. The store owners never raised the rates, as they normally do, because they had no idea that I was foreign. Two times officials who inspect entry visas would frequently stare at my very Western name and me, and then ask if I was Morocca or maybe one of my parents. In Egypt, it is a mix. When I speak, my accent is very clear. More than a few times I have heard someone say they thought I was form the Aswan region in Egypt. I am sometimes mistaken for Sudanese, Ethiopian, and Somalian. But I am never mistaken for a Westerner.

  5. atlasien wrote:

    According to this earlier post, here is a good resource.

  6. Sulyp wrote:

    @ Antonio and Evan,

    There are websites and forums that do delve into those aspects, do a Google search “traveling while black”.

    BlackTokyo.com is one such resource that proved to be very helpful to me, and I’m sure will be for you too.

    As a black woman who loves to travel, I find that I too have to be extremely cognizant of how I may be perceived, because quite frankly there is a difference between a white person traveling abroad and a person of color traveling abroad. There are even places I refuse to go because of their not-so-good record against minorities (Spain, Australia, some places in the good ‘ol USA…). Yeah sure, some people might tell me my fears are keeping me from having “positive” experiences there, but I would much rather go have a positive experience elsewhere and still keep my sanity intact.

  7. Margari Aziza wrote:

    Evan and Antonio,
    I don’t know of any such resources. That’s why I was excited to read about “Go Girl.”Maybe there are some male travelers who provided some insight.

  8. Monica wrote:

    @Sulyp

    I do believe that the fear of having a racist experience is one of the first thoughts I, as an African-American woman, have before I travel abroad. I’ve always wanted to go to Spain, but that idea makes me extremely nervous. I seriously don’t want to have bananas thrown at me, like what happens to some Black soccer players.

    On another note, I totally recommend going to Australia. I went to university there and absolutely loved the experience. Due to the diversity in the cities, the whole multicultural scene, and the general friendliness of Australians, I felt that my race was a non-issue. It was a really cool feeling and I made life-long friends over there. I think Australia is a really special place.

  9. bas bleu wrote:

    Interesting stuff. Hopefully such resources help us to sift through advice telling (white) travelers to avoid to certain places because they are ‘dangerous.’ It’s hard to tell if the place is actually cutthroat, or if there are just too many poor brown and black people around for most (white) travelers’ comfort.

  10. sejw wrote:

    Thank God for this book! I already have it in my library request queue.

    I haven’t done much international travel, but lots of regional travel with my husband. Most of what we like to do involves going out into the wilderness and rural areas to get away from the city. But those areas are also some of the places where POC of any type are rare, let alone black folks.

    My husband (who’s white) and I have a regular game when we go on these trips: “count the brown folks.” Usually I see fewer POCs during these week-long trips than I do walking down my street for 30 seconds.

    Interesting posts. And also nice to have perspectives on traveling from POCs. I recommend picking up An African in Greenland. Courtesy of Wikipedia:

    “An African in Greenland is a 1981 book by the Togolese author Tété-Michel Kpomassie. It details his upbringing in Togo, his encounter as a teen with a book about Greenland and his determination to move there and become a hunter. After ten years, working his way across Africa and Europe, he finally arrives on the Arctic island. His encounter with the native Kalaallit population, which is very different but in many ways very similar in its lifestyle to the tribal society of Togo, forms the core of this book.”

  11. Monie wrote:

    I wondering: does the book highlight the travel experiences of ‘regular’ Black woman or just famous writers, etc.?

  12. ATLGirl wrote:

    Monie, I’d would like to see your definition of “regular” Black women. I don’t know all the names listed, but I do know that when Maya Angelou initially went to Africa she was neither rich nor famous.

  13. Nadra wrote:

    I’ve been to Barcelona, and it wasn’t a problem. I met other black people there, a Korean woman, etc. Many people were curious and wanted to talk to me. One guy wanted to take me out for coffee, but I don’t think he thought I was a prostitute, unless coffee is code for something I don’t know. What I did find throughout the countries I visited in Western Europe is that Italians were constantly calling out to me.

  14. ms world wrote:

    I ‘m an educated African-American woman from a working class background. I’ve always wanted to travel, so as soon as I got an opportunity- I grabbed at it. I have lived abroad in three paces countries (London, Florence, Italy, and a mid-size city in Japan). I’ve traveled to 30 countries (Western Europe, Egypt, East Asia, Southeast Asia, India, Australia, and southern Africa). And I’ve had a blast and never made tons of money nor did I run-up credit card debt (I did have to change my life style and be willing to take a risk).

    I actually spent 2 years teaching English in Japan on the JET program. It was one of the best experiences of my life. It also funded my trips to Australia, India, South Africa, Mozambique, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Cambodia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Laos, Thailand and Ireland.

    If you are inclined to see the world- DO IT IF YOU CAN! Don’t let naysayers or rumors or halftruths hold you back.

    I’ve had amazing experiences and sucky ones all over the world. I was treated like a rock star in Japan. I spent 3 months in India and had some up and down experiences (had a great time in South India though). I love Malaysia and Hanoi. Australia was fun! Mozambique was the bomb while South Africa was beautiful but filled with tension. I also know there are lots of Black folks or other people of color who’ve been to these places and have radically different experiences from me.

    A lot of experiences you have abroad (away from the airport security) depend on your attitude and willingness to be flexible. It is also important to treat the people in countries you’re visiting with respect and a healthy dose of curiosity (meaning you care enough to read up on a place or learn to say hello in the local language).

    I know biases exists everywhere and in very different forms (in England-class is a huge issue, while in Japan anyone who is not born and raised in Japan is seen as an outsider). However, I believe that prejudice isn’t a good reason for Black people to be scared of the world. Honestly, I usually get treated very well when I’m abroad (and I travel backpacker style $3 a night for a dorm bed at the Salvation Army place in Mumbai, India). Travel can be difficult (uncomfortable, scary, and confusing) but it can be fun, informative, and thought-provoking. Honestly, if you really want to go to a place -go and see it for yourself-if you can. Try to have an open mind! And try not to project all your issues onto other people. DON’T LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLE! I WENT TO JAPAN HEARING HOW ASIAN PEOPLE HAVE ISSUES WITH BLACK PEOPLE. THEY DON’T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE, ETC ETC. BUT I DIDN’T CARE- GETTING PAID TO LIVE AND WORK THERE WAS TOO GOOD TO PASS UP- SO I WENT AND HAD SO MANY GOOD EXPERIENCES THAT IT IS ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF MY 30 PLUS YEARS OF LIFE SO FAR. There’s always the Peace Corps. Honestly, there is a reason people are running around the world trying to see it- it’s fun and exhilarating! And Black people need to join the Global party! Peace, Ms World http://www.wordgyrl.typepad.com

  15. gatamala wrote:

    One of my friend advised dressing to the nines all the time. She said she dresses almost like a princess and spends lots of money. Then people treat her well.

    ahhhh yes…the foreign black tax. I’ve had that experience too.

    Either it’s “where are you really from, you don’t look American” or I have to “look” like an American (sans the white privilege of wearing shorts) so that I am not mistreated (like African immigrants are).

    In DR, people assumed I was from Nueba Yol and the daughter of Dominicans. When I went from DR into Puerto Rico, the customs agent was a real bitch…even after I switched to English. She has not a bitch to the white chick I was with.

    I had a Mexican man guess every country in the Western hemisphere save Canada & the US.

    I had a good time in Japan, but there is Bob Sapp and tons of racist iconography. They like the novelty of Black American visitors, but not the presence of immigrants.

    France…well I think they hate me b/c I’m American. Not too psyched on going back.

    Switzerland - must swim in Lake Geneva again. Nice people. Everybody seems to be from Kuwait ;)

    Brussels - this Algerian man hung out with us because we were the only black folks in the bar!!

    London is nice and diverse, Birmingham and other parts…not so much.

    My Latin and Asian friends hinted at Australian racism. A guy actually criticized American racism and then followed it up w/ a racist remark in the same breath. One referred to it as “Arkansas with an accent”.

    Sulyp, I feel you on Spain. I would love to visit, but virtually every black person I know has had a horrific experience (prostitute stories). They’ve got some work to do. I’ll probably hit Portugal and then Morocco. Morocco has a good rep.

    Sadly, I do feel like a racial/national rep when I travel abroad. Sometimes the novelty feeling is better than American racism.

  16. Sobia wrote:

    Thanks for writing this Margari. I’ve often wondered how I would be reacted to if I were to go traveling around Europe - something I’ve really been wanting to do for a while - being South Asian and Muslim (though I don’t wear hijab so it’s not obvious until one hears my name). A South Asian Muslim friend of mine, who grew up here in Canada, recently traveled around Eastern Europe with her White boyfriend, and two other White friends. Her experiences were positive overall EXCEPT in Poland. When entering Poland she was not only talked to in a rude manner and searched and interrogated by customs, but she was right out asked by the customs woman “I don’t understand, why are you here?!” And apparently ms customs agent seemed very annoyed that my friend would be in her country. And she had no problem letting her know.

    I think if I were to travel around Europe I wouldn’t do it alone. Not only because I’m a woman, but also because I’m brown skinned and Muslim. These are things that travel brochures/shows etc never address.

  17. Rachel wrote:

    Yeah, my friend got detained traveling from Belize to Mexico because she had dreads. The customs agents REFUSED to believe she wasn’t a migrant, despite her US passport and American accent.

  18. Brigitte wrote:

    I didn’t have any problems in Morocco but a lot of my trip was guided.

    I also recommend BlackTokyo if you’re planning a trip there but honestly, I never had a problem when I’ve visited. I lucked out during my first trip and met a Jamaican former model who lived there with her husband and showed me around a bit. It was great because she would tell me everything people were saying about us on the subway.

    I love Spain but I was very self-conscious when I went there because the Spanish men I encountered were really aggressive and would and would often comment and gesture loudly when I walked by. There is a book by Lori Tharps on her experience in Spain called “Kinky Gazpacho” that is an okay read.

    In France people usually think I’m local until I speak French.

    I planned a trip to Russia but cancelled it because I was too nervous about the racial attacks on African students there.

    There is a group on Livejournal for black travelers but I don’t think it is very active.

  19. Elisheva wrote:

    Traveling is good for the mind and for the soul. We can’t let racism keep us from traveling. I’ve traveled to London, Cairo, all over Israel, and Mexico.

    In London there were intrigued with my American accent, which I found funny.

    In Cairo, they called me sister and pointed out that were we the same color.

    In Mexico, I was treated like a queen-I also spoke Spanish, which resulted in my treatment being much different from my non-Spanish speaking best girlfriend.

    In Israel, they couldn’t get over that I was American because of my very Hebrew name. They kept asking, “you’ve been here before, yes?” We had more issues being female amongst Orthodox Jews in hotels than being Black. At the same time, we saw photos of Black Madonnas and Black Christ–it was most interesting.

    I’m really interesting in this book as I cannot wait to do more world travel. Thanks for sharing the resource!

  20. Jay wrote:

    I have been thinking about this too. I recently finished Gary Younge’s ‘No Place Like Home’ which is very explicit on the subject, though he’s talking specifically as a British man in the US.

    I have a few issues travelling too: I am very dark skinned, no doubt about it, and even going to certain parts of London leave me deflated. I would never pass up an opportunity to go to a country, but I don’t think I would actually sit and plan a trip to somewhere like Poland or China. They just don’t appeal to me anyway, and the whole race thing makes it worse.

    The grimly hilarious thing is that I feel safest going to former colonial powers, or areas like the Caribbean and South America that were entrenched in the slave trade. It has scattered we blacks in the most unlikely of places. When I was in Strasbourg a few years ago, I went up to the Mountains of Alsace, supposedly notorious for its racism. I was walking through town and a group of black french people come ambling down the hill with their push-chairs and picnic baskets. Whether they were tourists or locals I couldn’t tell, but they barely noticed me and seemed totally unphased by their surroundings.

  21. SD wrote:

    Just for the record, Go Girl! was published in 1997 — over ten years ago! It’s fantastic that this book is finally getting the attention that it deserves, but a new edition is long overdue…

  22. Dawud wrote:

    Very nice post. I feel you regarding the mix responses.

    I’ve also experienced warmness in Egypt. Many of them thought that I was Nubian as well.

    I’ve also been called “abeed” (slave) before by a Kuwaiti while visiting Prophet Muhammad’s mosque in Saudi Arabia. The odd piece about the racist Kuwait cat is that the royal family, Saba (Sheba) family are basically people that could pass for an African-American in West side Detroit or from Trinidad neighborhood in DC.

  23. wendi muse wrote:

    man, i wanted to be the one to write this!!!! lol

    also, thanks atlasien for repping my old post. i am still a die-hard rick steves fan

    beijinhos from brazil,

    wendip.s. i miss you guys :-(

  24. heyhey wrote:

    I hate to say this, and hopefully it’s not too off-topic, but as much as I enjoy travel blogs and particularly shows (hey GlobeTrekker), there are brief moments when I though side-eye to the screen and say “Yah, cuz you’re white”. Being pretty, blond and blue- eyed has a certain currency not measured easily on the exchange rate. The hosts, bless em, often address how friendly the people are to tourists, but race is rarely factored in. Even if you take the TV crew out of the equation, I’ve seen on my travels Caucasian people get treated more favorably than other tourists. Heck, dovetailing into the “white salon woman thought we were a family” letter, the opposite happened in Spain: people couldn’t accept that we were related. I speak spanish fluently, but my mom looks Spanish (I look Asian). You think that’s problematic in The States? The Spaniards looked at us like some kind of freak ventriloquist act– address the question to her, and I’d answer. Frustrating.

    Back on topic, knowing that their can be different treatment certainly doesn’t slack my wanderlust– it’s just another aspect to take into account.

    That said, I’m intrigued to read more travel writing with a PoC perspective, Go Girl included. Particularly the notion of going to an ancestral home– what is it like, what did you expect, did it live up to your expectations. If there’s more out there, please post!

  25. Cam wrote:

    I don’t really see why a guide to traveling while black is necessary. I never had any troubles in my travels. One couple did think for a sec that I was French, but I think that might just be because I don’t dress like an obvious tourist.

  26. Shauna wrote:

    Well to point out the bright side, if people think you’re poor they might not charge you the American rate (its a lot higher than the local or from a poorer country rate).

  27. njeri wrote:

    I think a travel guide like this is a great idea. After having lived in Cameroon for several months, I really got to understand race relations through a whole other lens. It’s quite a long story (I’m really really really happy that I kept a journal!), but I still remember on my way back to the US being looked at differently and receiving different treatments at ALL the checkpoints through the airport. I definitely had to pull out my passport more and even as my friends went on with their extra luggage, I was pulled aside (after going through luggage check- and weight- points) by an airport officer who took my bag to feel how heavy it was and insisted during my five-minute interrogation that it was too heavy and that it wasn’t weighed.

    That aside, my treatment wasn’t always worse than my “paler” counterparts. But there was definitely at least different treatment throughout the trip.

  28. Amber wrote:

    I am so happy to hear about this book. I am saving up right now to start traveling next spring. And traveling alone as a black woman I know their are certain things I need to be aware of.
    I’m kinda bummed hearing bad things about Spain, being that Madrid is the first place I want to go.

  29. Traveler wrote:

    Hey, to be honest, as far as traveling goes, although I think about how my race will affect me wherever I go, it’s not going to stop me. I’m black, from Ghana, actually, but I grew up in Japan, then went to high school and college in the states, now live in China, so I think i have completely different race perspective than a lot of you. You’re coming at it from an American point of view, I’m coming at it from an I have no allegiance to any country kind of point of view. So, (with the exception of Australia), while I’m concerned about how my race is going to affect me in different countries, it’s not going to stop me from going anywhere. I mean, I grew up in Japan, an obvious outsider, the stares, pointing and yelling were a part of every day life (strange , considering the culture is all about respect and hiding your emotions), to America, where i did not understand a thing about race relations and, despite not being African-American, had all these assumptions made about me based on the fact that I supposedly was.

    Sorry if I’m rambling. If anyone wants to ask me anything and I may be able to provide some insight, please let me know!

  30. Lisa J wrote:

    @Amber. I think you’ll be ok in Madrid. I went there when I was in college and though it was only a few days, I was treated much better there than I was in London (where I was spending the semester). Actually going to Madrid restored my faith in international travel because after my tribulations in London (long story) I was seriously considering not going abroad ever again (I was only 19 and still a little more high-strung and immature than I am now-thought I still have a lot of work to do on that front). I thought the people were pretty nice and I felt much more at home than in England. Of course I don’t speak Spanish so maybe I was missing something but it was very nice and so beautiful.

  31. nat, london wrote:

    Hi Lisa J,

    I’m a born and bread black Londoner and am interested in what happened to you on your visit to London. London in general is a pretty tolerant city although there are pockets of ignorance in certain boroughs, it really depends which parts you go to. Black Americans on the whole are kind of treated like celebreties in most areas.

  32. niaray wrote:

    The term travelling while black made me laugh. My first international experience was a year-long exchange student in Switzerland right after high school. It was one of the best year’s of my life! There were five other girls in my town, Solothurn, capital of Kanton Solothurn, and about a half hour away from Switzerland’s capital city, Bern. Four of us were American (I was the only black), and one girl from Colombia. We were treated wonderfully, me especially. there was a lot of curioustity, because I was the only black female teenager in town (one other African guy, and an African woman). Yeah there were some dumb questions, but I chalked it up to curiousity and ignorance, not maliciousness. I learned a lot about their culture, too, and still speak german fluently to this day as a result of my time there.

    Since then, I’ve been to to London, Dublin, Belfast, Tel Aviv, Sharm el Sheik, and all over France, Italy, Germany, Mexico and the Carribean. Nothing but friendly people in London and Ireland. Belfast was particularly intersteing, because my white, Irish-Catholic, minority (Protestants are the majority) friends made a point to tell me how they felt oppressed like minorities of color in their country. I found the discussion incredibly enlightening and surprising. It really opened my eyes to issues, I’d never thought about too much.

    I felt extremely safe, and comfortable travelling alone in Tel Aviv, and at our hotel in Sharm el Sheik. The only odd thin in Sharm was the utter lack of Egyptian females in the city. It’s a tourist spot, and seems to be constantly building hotels, but the abundance of lecherous Egyptian males gave me the creeps. I had to have my two male friends walk on either side of me, so that some guy did not thin I was “available.”

    Germany was a lot like Switzerland (at least the German-speaking parts of Switzerland). People are friendly but not in the American-sense until they get to know. I lived in Berlin for a year, and it was amazing. The city is vibrant, young, fun and full of culture. France, meh, liked the south the best, must’ve been the more friendly Mediterranean attitude. Italy is awesome, from the food to the people, to the different towns throughout the country.

    I could go on and on, travelling is such a wonderful experience. Haven’t been to Spain yet, but my sister lived in Madrid for a year, and loved it! I agree with the poster earlier who said not to judge by the experience of others. Everything’s subjective, explore on your own, and make your own judgements.

  33. Lisa J wrote:

    Well Nat london, my experiences in London were complicated. In general I felt lots of hostility and had lots of little run ins (micro-aggressions, great term) more so than what I was used to. Some of it could have been just being in a different culture and noticing things more or from a different angle, and some of it may have been living in a city for the first time.

    Anyway, some of my experiences that I did not like and made me dislike London specifically and England in general were as follows. I was called colored several times (which does not fly in America). I was told by an English neighbor that “you lot always stick together” when I mentioned that I hated skin-heads and Nazi’s (he shut up when I told him it was because the Nazi’s killed 6 million Jews and hated anyone who wasn’t “Aryan”). He then complained that English “coloreds” always went on about where they were from but if you asked them what they were, they’d get mad and say they were English.

    I had an Englishman ,who was my political science professor, who after giving us a racial breakdown of the British Isles, which was reasonable given the context of the class, then procede to give a racial background of the student’s in the class (like we couldn’t see) and said in a very posh accent ” Well, most of you are of European descent and then there are the 3 Negroes and you there in the back… you look vaguely… mongoloidish” She was half Desi and half Puerto Rican. One of the 3 “Negroes” never returned to the class and the other one came back but only b/c she needed it for her major and had already dropped the class in the fall because of his ignorant ass. Other than that though, she ” LOVED it there for the most part and had spent the whole year there, but she had be-friended many Anglo-Africans and Anglo-Jamacians. The “mongoloidish one” was pretty pissed but she said she didn’t want to explain it to him b/c he probably wouldn’t understand and she knew that most Brits knew very little about Puerto Rico so what was the point. She also said that most of the English Desi’s she met accused her of making up her Puerto Rican side and those who were actual relatives of hers who lived there didn’t understand why she identified more with her Puerto Rican heritiage and it upset them plus they seemed to think she was less trust worthy b/c of her mix. Of course she also said her Puerto Rican cousins thought she was a joke.

    Back to me, I was also pushed on several occasion for no reason by white strangers, once really, really hard by a white woman at the theatre. She is so lucky that was little 19 year old sweet Lisa and not bitchy 35 year old Lisa b/c she may have been cursed out by a loud angry woman. I had a white woman change seats after she was seated next to me at the theatre. I had a flight steward look away and refuse to look me in eye when returning from Spain although he smiled and thanked EVERY SINGLE White passenger who came off the flight.

    Then on my return flight I was seriously racially profiled at the airport and had to submit to a separate searches 3 times: at the inital check-in they had security go throuh my checked bag, at the metal detector I had to go in the little room to have my carryons hand searched, and then while while trying to get on the plane I was pulled from line and was hand searched by a man (more on that below). This was all pre-9/11 and you know, I still haven’t heard of any African-American female airline terrorists or even any African/black terrorists at all, at WEstern airlines at the time

    And the coup de grace and main reason for my discomfort was that I was called “Sir” on countless occasions. I am very tall for a female and probably extremely tall by Brit standards ,5′11 and despite having a 6′7 father who weighs less than 200 pounds, I am not model thin and have a big frame, I’m not fat or even chubby but not skinny either. I have been told several times that I am very pretty and very adamantly by some who know this tale that I don’t look like man. My current boss even said she was shocked when I once said I didn’t like to wear pant-suits because it made me look mannish b/c she thought I was a “beautiful” girl. I will admit that the being mistaken for a guy has happened to me occasionally here at home b/c of my height especially if I pull my hair back but fairly rarely and it happened all the time there. On my 2nd day in London, I even had a man stare at me and then laugh in my face when I was trying to register for class and he said “No, Sir, Lisa, we are only registering A-K right now, you have to wait(you can guess from my name that last name is J which comes before K)” I corrected him and told him, “Actualy it is Miss” and he laughed and said I was funny. Maybe he was just a dumbass since he didn’t even know the alphabet but is Lisa such an uncommon name there that he wouldn’t recognize it as a female name? I doubt it. Anyway, something along these lines happened to me CONSTANTLY. I was heartbroken. I’d wanted to go to the UK since I was 12 and I was so hurt. I felt like a monster. I never had great self-esteem before growing up as one of the few blacks in a mostly white suburb and being tall too I never thought I was ok or decent at all growing up and that I was ugly as sin. That changed in college by being exposed to more people until I went to London and then I was back to square one, actually at negative 1,000. I was really upset b/c it happened so much and I really wanted to go home but my Mom told me before I left I was not wasting her money and could not come back if I didn’t like it, so 4 months of pure hell. It didn’t help that when I tried to put on make up in an attempt to make it more obvious that I was a girl, I had people stare at me on the street and overheard a little girl saying to her Mom on the tube “Mummy why is that Man wearing lipstick” I was so happy on the rare occasion someone knew I was a girl. I didn’t have that problem at all when I went to Spain I didn’t have that problem at all. The weird thing is that I had several English people then (who knew I was a girl) tell me I was very pretty and on the rare occasion that I share this painful story people are usually astonished that anyone could think that about me. (Just so I don’t sound stuck up I don’t think I’m pretty and still marvel when people say that). It could have been my size, but I have white female friends of similar size and build who’ve gone tehre and not had that problem so part of me feels like they just saw someone tall and black who wasn’t model thin, soit had to be a man and they weren’t looking closely. I could be wrong. Maybe I was sending something out but part of me feels strongly that a lot of it was racism (and maybe sizism).

    All that said, I did see more interracial couples there and more black female white male couples than you see here and I noticed that they had interracial dating games (this was 93) and that had not happened yet here, at least not in my viewing.

    I will say that in general at the time I came away thinking the English were generally rude (after watching way to much Masterpiece Theatre and thinking they were so polite) but as I’ve aged, I have met many English folks who are very nice, and I’ve realized that I was in the city and people are a little more intense in cities. Still not planning on going back though. Oh and I was a Doctor Who nut before I went, came home in a snit and threw it and all my other anglo-phile paraphanalia, out, but now that the show is back on I am once again a Who fanatic, get the magazine, and watch it and other shows all the time.

    Sorry for the long and bummer answer.

  34. thejoyprincess wrote:

    @SD

    That’s precisely why I JUST threw my copy away last week. Hopefully, she has updated it by now and included other writers. I’d definitely read that version.

  35. nat, london wrote:

    Hi lisa,

    I’m so sorry to hear your story. I feel I must apologise for you mistreatment here. I’ve had a couple of racist incidents but literally only a couple when I was younger and they were in mainly white underclass areas. Generally although there is still some racism, it tends to be of the covert kind.

    London is probably the most multi-cultural/multi-racial city in the world right now, with biracial births exceeding mon0-racial ones. You must come back as I’m sure your second experience will be different. For one since the mid-90s there are far more continental Africans and Muslims.

    In addition I think your size may have played a part as Britons of all types don’t tend to be very tall. People stare when tall Dutch people or tall Kenyans are around as its very rare to see very tall people, plus you probably dressed differently which would have made you stand out. Not that this justifies rudeness but it may have been a factor. You should have reported that college professor though and trust me the word ‘coloured’ is no longer used here except by very old people. You must have been staying somewhere in the South East of London like Eltham or Bermondsey or the Far East like Dagenham or Canning Town where the knuckleheads tend to congregate. No minority with means or whites who weren’t generationaly welfare dependant would live in those places. The rest of London is pretty good though, give it another go.

  36. Rebecca wrote:

    Can I just say that I think your experience in Durham reflected only Durham itself and not England in a wider sense? Durham is an extremely closeted little place, with not much to do in the city centre and ridiculous remoteness of its outlying villages. The whitest place in England is about 6 miles away from the city centre, and that’s reflected throughout the county. Asian (Chinese usually) students are represented at the university but Afro-Caribbeans are not at all. Many people in Durham have simply never met a black person in their lives. Go a little further north to Newcastle, or south as far as Bradford or Leeds, or even to Birmingham, and the ethnic makeup is wildly different to what it is in Durham.

  37. Dwarrior wrote:

    I went to Barcelona for spring break ‘06 and was treated very nicely. I self-identify as black, but am biracial (black and white) and am light skinned (a lil darker than a manila folder). I never got treated like a prostitute, although the vast majority of other black women I saw, especially on Las Ramblas, were. But I was clearly American, so maybe missed out on that because those women were African. I had been to France and London, and thought the Spanish are much nicer. I have a shady experience in Paris while travelling with my white aunt and we were totally ignored in a restaurant. But you never know with the French if it’s because they’re “rude” or they know you’re American, anything. I did not realize what a bum rap Spain got for blacks. My black uncle lived in Madrid for three years and loved it. Everyone has a different experience, a nd I certainly would not avoid visiting a place because people could be racist. At least a foreign place, there are some places in the US I wouldn’t go to if you paid me.

  38. Lisa J wrote:

    Nat,
    Thank you so much for your kind words. I really appreciate it. I have a good friend in Ireland who is thinking of getting married to his long time girlfriend and mother of his children, and has told me I am invited to the wedding whenever it happens, so I might pop over to London just out of curiosity.

    The school was actually in Kennsington, I went to Syracuse University which has a strong Division of International Programs Abroad and at the time they owned a house in that area and held all the classes there. I think they built something elsewhere in town in the last few years. I lived in Hammersmith, which was further than most of the other students. The profs were a hodgepodge; some were SU profs spending a year abroad; some were doctoral candidates at local schoools; and some were British PhD’s who I guess were moonlighitng. I think this prof was from the open university I think. The one good thing about him was that he got us a nice tour of Parliment which I hear is harder to get than a tour of the US Congress and I think I got an A- or B+ in his class so at least his ignorance didn’t affect my grade.

    Thanks again though Nat.

    Cheers!

  39. Wanderinglady wrote:

    I met Elaine Lee (author of “Go Girl”) back in 2002 when I visited Paris. She has a full time legal practice in California, so travel writing is definitely a labor of love for her. As an attorney who used to be in the same specialties as Ms. Lee, I can understand why she hasn’t had an update to the book. But I’m like everyone else — I hope there’s one soon.

    BTW, I met Ms. Lee at an event listed on cafedelasoul.com, a website that calls itself “your black Paris portal”. It’s a good source if you’re planning a trip to Paris.

    I think everyone will have a different travel experience. I spent two months traveling through Europe, and Spain was my favorite country. Any problems I had during my trip were due to men’s advances. And I think that these were due to being both Black and American, because of the media images sent by Hollywood around the world. After my trip, I could only shake my head and think, “people watch too many movies and too much TV…”

  40. anon wrote:

    In my travel experiences, rude people will be rude to you, nice people will be nice to you. My advice, never forget your manners, flatter people, and don’t expect you’ll get the same treatment you get at home abroad. In many cultures, people are wary of strangers, and faking pleasantries isn’t done. You can be mocked and discriminated quite openly but take it with a grain of salt. They don’t know YOU so you’re not the cause of thier angst. I’ve asked around about spain an heard that as long as you don’t want to immigrate there, you’re welcome in thier country. I had a brazillian friend who was brought to tears when an italian man called her a prostitute in Italy. In Scotland, I heard so much racism, it was almost funny. But it wasn’t all directed at me. Eastern Europeans were hated just as much as POC. Don’t let anyone stop you from seeing the world, it’s yours to see.

  41. Aon Barrett wrote:

    Hi, my name is Aon. I’m glad to have found this site. I’m a 33yr. old educated professional (who happens to be black) that enjoys traveling and love to learn about other cultures. I’ve visited Eypt, India, England, Brazil and a few Tropical Islands. I’ve always dreamed of backpacking through Europe, and visiting Australia and New Zealand.
    I’m ashamed to say that I have frequently put off traveling more because of uncertainties of how I will be treated in European countries, and that I often envy the freedom that caucasians have in that they can move, visit, and travel to anywhere in the world without thinking about their race.
    Whenever I ask coworkers or non-black friends on their travel adventures through Europe, they always remark that I should do it. And it secretely infuriates me how naive they are to the fact that white people (no mater what ethnic background), are treated better than non-whites.
    I found an excellent website called blacktravels.com, they post/blogs the adventures of “traveling while black” in western and eastern europe. Most western exeperience were describes as excellent, while most eastern european trips were discribes as troubling. I do plan on taking a tour next summer to 5-6 western european countries (changed my mind about czech republic/poland/Berlin/Slovakia and Hungary), as I just don’t don’t want to spend my entire trip feeling uncomfortable, stared at, and potentially getting arrested for knocking some fool out for dehumanizing me.
    I must say that I was treated very, very well while in India and Egypt. The locals (mostly poor), although they did stare quite a bit, especially in India made me actually feel special. They waived, smiled, touched me (while begging for money no less), but they apreciate visitors to their land.
    I’m ashamed of the human race (the only race there is), because we still have not evolved to the point in which people are treated on a case by case basis. Even if we were all the same race (which I”m sure we will be in a few thousand years), we would still find a reason to kill each other.
    Sorry for the long post.

  42. Mary wrote:

    One of the most disagreeable things I read (that was done by one of us, a Black person) in this essay was the mention of one of the writer’s friends ’spending a lot of money’ to get a racist’s attention.

    I urge any and every Black person travelling abroad to not do that. A racist should never have the ‘pleasure’ of one of us spending alot of money with them. That’s counter-productive and while it may compel them to pretend to ‘respect’ or ‘like’ that particular Black person, they will continue to behave in mean-spirited ways toward other Black travelers.

    Note that these people do not visit Black neighborhoods in America, let alone spend money with us. Be conservative with your money when you go abroad. Respect is earned, not bought. And one of the ways we can earn respect is by not buying into that psychological game/stereotype among many non-Black foreigners that ‘when you treat a Black person nasty, they spend more’. Don’t do it.

  43. tokunbo wrote:

    i could write a book. people often tell me i really should.

    i’m a guy in my mid-30s, but i’ve been travelling around the americas, europe, and africa since i was 16 and left my mother’s house.

    to be honest, my overall assessment of europe is that you get cool points for being american, but you automatically lose them if you hang out with [what exists of] the local black population. especially africans.

    and despite all the negative things i say in this, don’t get it twisted. i partied. HARD. [too hard, some would say. lol]

    when you said you were in durham, i just STARED AT THE SCREEN and wondered “why?” anything north of derby is/can be a bit of risk. scratch that, anything north of birmingham, with the exception of manchester city center [there are three universities there]. that said, i KNOW black mancunians, and when they left mancs to go to university, they made absolutely no plans to go back.

    but durham? bwuh? even newcastle has a bit more color. [and that’s saying a lot, right there.]

    one thing that i did notice while i was living in birmingham: i was looking for a job and rolled up on a temp agency. i was really turning on the american accent despite not having a permit to work from the university. [foreign students can work 20 hours a week, but the university has to sign off on it.] i’m filling out some forms and these two brothers walk in. the second they opened their mouths, these white women who had just been so sweet to me, were asking them, already for their workpermits, and their study permits, and why were they in the country. well, dang. i second before that, i could have had them on their knees, and now these africans come in and they treat them like this? that’s messed up.

    france: i moved to france just during the rise of le pen. the flics have a habit of ruining a great night out with “tes papiers, s’il te plait?” i’m like, “um, ‘tes’? you don’t know me, fools!” they were convinced i was illegal and were only convinced when i switched to english. at the time, i actually still had french nationality, which was doubly confusing to them.

    another fun occasion in france was when some gypsy kids pickpocketed me, and i actually caught one of the little effers. i was beatin the tar out of this boy, swearing in french, and the police were about to take *me* away, when i told them what happened. IN ENGLISH.

    but that was just paris. my son grew up in nice, and because i no longer had french nationality, it was hard for me to get a residence permit so i could be a hands-on father. but i did get one for italy, and i lived in genoa, which isn’t that far from nice. genoa at the time also filled with people who work in nice, who could get work permits but not residency permits. again, everyone thought i was nigerian. i didn’t have the problems in genoa that i later did in naples and especially rome, but it was “eh” overall.

    spain: ugh. just ugh. barcelona during the olympics was cool, but almost any other time i was speaking a lot of english. i speak spanish with a dominican accent when i’m awake and a puerto rican one when i’m drunk, so being in madrid was a lot like being in new york at some times. cops asking me about my legality to be there, at which point i have to switch to english. [i sense a trend here.]

    latin america is, by far, the hardest place to be a black traveller in my opinion. the socioeconomic structure is so actively biased against black people there that it can be hard. the best defense, of course, is to only speak english, but almost as important, pretend that you don’t speak spanish or portuguese, even if you do. it could save your life, especially if you’re male.

    venezuela: ugh. constantly accused of being in the wrong neighborhood. i usually just said that i was from trinidad and visiting friends. problem easily solved.

    brazil: far more problematic. i lived in leblon, which was one of the upscale beachfront neighborhoods. [if you’re driving from the city center, it’s the one *after* ipanema.] i spoke portuguese to everyone but the concierge in my building and the police. [brazilian police in rio and sao paulo like to shoot brothers for no good reason. it’s a place where, if you see the cops, live down to every negative american stereotype. like i said, it could save your life, especially if you’re dark-skinnded.]

    every time there was a new concierge in my building, he would try to steer me towards the servants elevator. one day i just had had enough, waited to talk to management, and swore at him in portuguese, spanish, french, and THEN english about dammit, i am going to beat down the next desk jockey that tries to treat me like a maid. the next day there was a picture of me behind the desk saying “do not mess with this crazy mofo, he lives here”. oddly enough, i had to go through that same ish when i first got here in cape town.

    in senegal, people acted like i was nigerian. there was just no way in hell i was american. [”were you in the peace corps? your french is so good”] i rolled with it. people who had suspicions about me being american were deftly deflected by my boyfriend and his family who said i was from guinea-bissau, which is a neighboring country where portuguese is official. but one time, though, my bf and his friends were playing soccer, and this dude rolls up on me and is like, “hi, ni**er, how are you?” um, no. i didn’t hit him, but i ignored him so hard his feelings were hurt. shame.

    i was strolling down the street in dakar one day, minding my own business, and this woman sticks her head out of a taxi and asks me, in yoruba, where the nigerian embassy was. lolwut? i lol’d because a) she assumed i was nigerian and b) i understood what she was saying.

    now i’m living in south africa. where, again, everyone thinks i’m nigerian. this is a bad thing, as south africans don’t really like foreign blacks, unless they’re speaking with american accents. [british accents don’t cut it because it just means that you’re an african that went to really good schools.] i deal with it by not dealing with them. i live in a neighborhood where most of the blacks are congolese or cameroonian or burundian. i speak far more french and kirundi than anything else, but i do speak english with my stepson, because he goes to an afrikaans-language school, and i want him to be bilingual.

    wow, that was a lot. maybe i should write that book.

  44. Lisa J wrote:

    @tokunbo.

    You should write a book. You have seriously travelled!

  45. Will wrote:

    @tokunbo you wrote:

    i could write a book. people often tell me i really should.

    i’m a guy in my mid-30s, but i’ve been travelling around the americas, europe, and africa since i was 16 and left my mother’s house.

    to be honest, my overall assessment of europe is that you get cool points for being american, but you automatically lose them if you hang out with [what exists of] the local black population. especially africans.

    I almost burst out laughing because this is so true. I am African, and in Europe Africans get treated much worse than African Americans. In the U.S, I sometimes feel the opposite. There are quite a few cases where the initial hostility towards me has been notched downwards or even dissapeared once people realize that I’m African vs African American. I’ve also had the much despised ‘but I don’t consider you black..’ and ‘..but you’re not really black, you’re different from them’ back handed compliments.

    But like all things YMMV. Africans (and even where you are from in Africa) tend to have some common experiences and some hugely divergent experiences. When traveling. If you are African, wear a Western suit or distinctly Western clothes , don’t wear anything ‘ethnic’. My dad used to visit me in the U.S and one time he made the mistake of wearing a traditional flowing robe (like kente cloth), with a skullcap. This was way before 9/11 but he got pulled aside, subjected to multiple searches and interrogation.

  46. BlkTraveler wrote:

    I’m African American male. I’m 40 yrs old, single and until 19 months ago never traveled outside the America.

    I made the move after my daughter entered turned 20 yrs old. I simply could not deal with the same old day to day drama any longer. I tired of all the talk from co-workers about politics, racism, who killed who, why, and by what means, and bha! bha!
    Often times I’d run to the restroom or outside gasping for air, I’d find that air in the form of long unnourished dreams of travel, even living aboard.

    So I made the move to another country 1 day before my 39th birthday and never regretted it. In just 19 months my eyes have seen the cliffs of Greece, I been to Italy, drank beer with the Irish in Shannon, partied in Bahrain, Skied in Dubai’s indoor arena, shopped in Seoul Korea, visited the beautiful temples, beaches, and cheap markets in Thailand, danced and dressed like a Mexican in Mexico. And now this month I forge ahead for 30 days on a conquest to conquer Shanghai China and Mombasi Kenya.

    We as African Americans, espeically US MEN, seem to have given in to the notion that because we have not been fully excepted in America that the entire world feel the same. It’s just not true!!! What’s the point in being here on earth, with only one life to live if we’re content or so afraid that we spend our time in a dark cave hibernating, waiting for a spring day that will never come, unless we awake ourselves and go towards the light.

    None of us are going to live forever, so I would rather die on the move than die lying waiting for the ambush. People of the world are not out to cook and eat us, truth be told they already what we know about us being treated so badly for many years. When we travel, we represent NOT America, but other people of color, we do so in a manner that reflect our true selves, and puts to rest what other nationals see on TV.

    So travel now, sleep later

    Best wishes………….pk

  47. Deb wrote:

    I found a great website for Black Female Travelers. http://www.blackgirltravel.com

  48. Audrey Daniels wrote:

    Wow! I’m simply stunned by all of this! But the one ‘question’ I kept wondering (since there was no picture included) of what hue of the brown rainbow you reside? I mean, we come in all shades, from light/almost white to the darkest of night. Which begs the question, does a darker hue get treated with less dignity than one of a lighter shade?

    Regardless to all of this, my one ambition is to get more black families and girls traveling and seeing more than their neighborhood blocks and backyards. I want to raise the self esteem of our kids through travel and help families help each other raise their financial worth via financial induced, referrals.

    I am also on a mission to raise the bar and the self esteem for teen girls to welcome womanhood with open arms, unshackled and stigmatized by single motherhood!
    http://www.YoungWomenOfDistinction.com

    It is high time that we got up off the couch, see for ourselves and show others what is out there than what MTV, The Travel Channel and the Doom & Gloom nightly news tells us!

    This is how you REDUCE teen pregnancy and reduce dependence on social services!

    So, Get off your ASS and TRAVEL & Take Someone With You!!!

    Any takers???? I’d LOVE to hear from you!

    P.S-BlkTraveler, great post! More blk men need to hear from your perspective!

  49. Margari Aziza wrote:

    Audrey,
    I’m brown and my features are unambiguously African, so no I don’t pass. At the same time, I know that I am still treated differently (sometimes better or worse than others) because of where I fit on the sliding color scale.
    It is not always about shade, but also phenotype. So, if you are very light, but have African features, people will see you as Black. But you can be really dark, but if your hair straight and you have aquiline features, you will not be considered black. Some people who would definitely be considered Black in America would be considered Tan, but not Black Arabs.

    Your treatment can vary depending on a number of factors. Class, occupation, religious background, and cultural identity also plays a part in how some people may see you in North Africa. People may identitify you with a particular ethnic group or country. If you look Sudanese you may be treated differently depending on whether you look like you are from the North or South. So if you look Senegalese in Morocco, people might assume you are a migrant worker and taking their jobs. Very similar attitudes as in border states in the US. But then again, you can go some place and find that they really love black people. People may be much nicer to you. The only Black person Arabs seem not to like is Condi Rice, with exception to Libya’s president who seems to have a crush on her.

  50. dcnot420 wrote:

    To me the only thing that kills me is when someone says,”You don’t look American”.Like wtf do you mean I don’t look American.I think people forget the majority of white American families didnt come to the USA until the early 1900s.Black Americans(when I say that I’m talking about,slave descended blacks and a couple free willing black immigrants from the 1600s and the 1700s not naturalized blacks) started coming in the back in the 1600s we stopped coming in the mid 1800s.We got a good 60 to 300 years on being in the USA,compared to white Americans.Anyone that believes in the media of there country is retarded.Especially the USA’s bs media.Like 95% of it is bs.The stereotypes are so fucking stupid that I cant believe people actually believe in them from across the world.

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