Thoughts on CNN’s Black in America Series

by Latoya Peterson

I have been interested to watch how the Black in America project has been received around the blogosphere. It was an eighteen-month project that many think should have been thought about a bit more. A summary of the series is here.

Tariq Nelson provides an interesting perspective on why he isn’t annoyed:

Last night I watched the first part of the much anticipated ‘Black in America’ program on CNN.

The first thing that I really appreciated about this show is that it showed that in spite of the many problems in our community, there are black Americans that are hard working, have strong families, businesses and that there are black men that are working extremely hard to make sure that there children have a better life, even if they are struggling themselves.

I would have probably thought that this program was just a retread of what has been done so many times before, but I have been really irked lately by some “religious” people (black ones at that) that have been writing me, putting down blacks and demanding that I distance myself from my own background based on some misguided “religious principle”. Some of these self-righteous individuals have been trashing me in other places on the internet for my refusal to abide to their demands. In any case, from this, I know now more than ever that there is a strong need to tell the story of hard working black people that value their families because too many have bought into this myth that none of us care for our families.

Tariq also provides his perspective on the second part of the series, focusing on black men:

This episode was more depressing for me than the previous one because it just reminded me of all of the problems that face our community. It reminded me of the many people that I have met just like those shown tonight with similar problems. Many of them are dead now. We were presented (once again) with the crack epidemic, criminality, lack of job opportunities, discrimination, prison and on and on. So many young black men become resigned to a fate that they are doomed to a life of crime, violence and drugs. Many of them will die in prison.

This is the singular side of blacks that so many non-blacks think of when they think of the entirety of black America. It is totally absurd and maddening, but while many of us may not have lived like this, this dark side is very real and must be addressed. Anyone that denies the destructive impact of these ills is not in touch with reality. [...]

I saw these problems on similar specials 20 years ago and now I am seeing it again. Will we see the same problems on display 20 years from now? Do we want our sons and daughters of the next generation to be trapped in these same disastrous conditions 20 years from now? Whatever the case, we are failing them. With the world being more competitive than ever it is more essential than ever to make sure that our children are prepared for the challenges they will face in the fast changing world over the next 20-25 years.

Mahlena-Rae Johnson was miffed at the assumptions of TD Jakes about not understanding the need for a man in the household:

Looky here, Mr. Jakes. Just because I have continued to excel “educationally and academically” does not mean that other people, i.e. men, cannot do the same. Education is not a zero-sum game. I can’t horde all the education and prevent other people from getting it. It’s not my fault that men supposedly have poor self-esteem because they are “struggling to find their relevancy in the family today”. What kind of farkakte logic is that? If these men you are talking about choose to leave their family because they chose not to get an education and therefore cannot provide the kind of paycheck that their educated female partner can, how is that my problem? Why should I be responsible for men who aren’t even trying to do something with their lives? I have my own self-esteem issues. As D. L. Hughley says in his celebrity interview, those men need to get out of their own way.

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Furthermore, not every black woman wants to have a child with a man. Not every black person wants to have a child. Not every black woman wants to be with a man, and not every black man wants to be with a woman. Not every black man deserts his family. Overall, I am tired of hearing these same arguments posed as the problem with the black community. As if there aren’t white deadbeat dads or Asian deadbeat dads. As if the problems in Latino communities could be solved if only Latinas showed more appreciation for trifling men. I don’t think so.

(Mahlena-Rae has also thoughtfully provided a transcript of TD Jakes’ comments, for those who missed the series or cannot hear the audio/video.)

What About Our Daughters summed up the series in this way:

For those of you depressed by Soledad O’Brien’s Black Women and Family forever known in these parts as “Black Women It Doesn’t Suck to be You it only FEELS that way,” I have some news to break the negative deluge, apparently Black women are far more likely to be early adapters of technology than our counterparts. [...]

I know you like your cellphones, but before you pay sprint or T Mobile, make sure you pay yourself first because according to Soledad O’Brien, you are going to need that money in your old age because we’re all going to die old and alone and be eaten alive by nine cats. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES SISTAS!!! Like the hounds of hell are upon you.

Renee shed some light on what was missing from the series:

Though it is wonderful to see a black male so heavily invested in his children, a show that is dedicated to the struggles of women should have presented a black mother first. This of course was only one example of the way in which a show dedicated to women, was in fact aimed at reinforcing a certain idea of what constitutes a black woman. It is assumed throughout the entirety of the documentary that not only can black men speak on behalf of women, it is right and proper for them to do so.

If someone were to watch this show with little knowledge of black women in the US, they would assume that they are all CIS, and that they are all heterosexual. It seems that these are the two main identifiers of black females. Throughout the two hour documentary not one mention was made of black lesbians or transgender women. It seems that sexuality or gender identity in some way conflicts with identifying as a black female. By making these groups invisible it further highlights how marginalized they are by mainstream America. If a documentary is dedicated to black women, it should include ALL black women. I suspect that much of this omission had to do with its continual linking to the black church, which we know has not historically been in support of people that refuse to identify as heterosexual, or that refuse to live the gender binary. There wasn’t even a referral to a single black female minister, even though we all know that they exist. The reverend T.J Jakes cannot speak on behalf of black female clergy, and their theological experiences, and theories.

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It was further troubling that the documentary was insistent in promoting marriage as the answer to the poverty that black women face. Marriage is no guarantee that the relationship will survive, and offers only the potential of stability. Progressive programs like socialized day care, or education subsidies as concrete solutions was not even proffered as a legitimate counter to the “traditional heterosexual lifestyle.” [...]

Whole groups of women were erased in this documentary. As I sit here I wonder about the women in the prison system and how race effects their experiences. What about women working in the sex trade industry as either prostitutes, strippers, or porn actresses, how has race effected their life experiences? When we think of the black woman we are meant to either think of the noble, self-sacrificing single mother, or the rich affluent over achiever who spends her nights embracing a vibrator lamenting on her lack of access to good dick. Had CNN bothered to look outside of the cultural images that exist about black women they could have created a documentary that was far more inclusive, and spoke to the various identities that make up black females in the US. Once again we are misrepresented and constructed as something that we are not.

Renee also noticed some omissions from the Men’s portion of the documentary:

Okay CNN where are the gay and trans men? Why the hell aren’t they worthy of 5 mins of representation, in your documentary that attempts to teach us all about the experiences of black men? I understand that part of your goal is to push heterosexuality, however heterosexuality is only understood as good because homosexual is constructed as bad. It seems in its quest to push heteronormativity, certain groups of people due to their sexuality or gender fluid identity somehow become non black, and non relevant. I am sick of this shit. When we refuse to acknowledge gay men, and trans men we leave them open to attack, and some have paid for homophobia and transphobia with their very lives. This is a black issue, just as much as men in prison, or men dealing with a high unemployment rate. [...]

One of the issues that they really focused on was black over representation in the prison population, and the effect that it has on their chances of getting employment. I thought that was a particularly good segment but it should have been married with the fact that black men are also over represented in the military. image It is no accident that they appear in both of these groups. Black men are cannon fodder, to fight wars in which they have no personal stake to enrich transnational corporations. [...]

I did learn something really substantial watching this series….drumroll please…blacks don’t have disabilities. Nope we are all incredibly, magically, able bodied. I guess that is the reason so many of us are represented by athletes. There are no blind, deaf, or mentally disabled amongst us, and even if there were, what possible special challenges could they have? Whatever they daily negotiate is certainly not legitimate enough for CNN to look past the impoverished ghettoized man / affluent bourgeoisie dichotomy. If you don’t fit specifically within these limited categories once again you are not black enough to count.

While I feel that this segment did a much better job at showing a wider range of the black experience (no surprise it was about men) there were several critical connections that they failed to make. When you are going to discuss “isms” it is important to understand that they are interlocking and as such, cannot be examined individually. In the four hours that I dedicated to watching this, I certainly did not learn anything new, but then this show was not created for the black community.

Tami gives a good summary of why the series did not live up to its potential:

I had hopes for CNN’s “Black in America” series–not high hopes, just…hopes. Frankly, I am always skeptical when the mainstream attempts to define and describe black folks. Somehow it never turns out quite right. But I had hoped this show, led by a self-identified black woman might “get” us better. After watching the first episode of the “Black in America” series, I believe this effort is no different from past ones. The study wasn’t awful…wasn’t evil…but it wasn’t quite right.

While I am happy to see the stories of black Americans being told on primetime television, my gripe is that our stories always seem to be framed in the same way. We are always defined by our challenges, not our successes…by our weakest, not our strongest members. I was glad to hear one participant in the show state that most of black America is not poor. Neither have most of us been arrested. Most black Americans are strong, but so far, with a few notable exceptions, CNN has framed us mostly as struggling in education…struggling with our health…struggling with interpersonal relationships…just struggling. It is true that many African Americans are struggling, but there is more to us than that. I was touched by the Kennedy family, and wonderful young, Eric, who I hope to God does not fall through the cracks. People need to know about boys like Eric. But don’t they also need to know about women like me?

I watched the first part of the series and while I didn’t think it was terrible (it is still better than BET), it appears that we are still falling into the same traps over and over again. Why is there always just one woman on the panel? Where are the progressives? One of the Facebook groups I belong to made heavy mention of the linking of poverty and blackness. Wouldn’t we have benefited from a discussion of class politics? Talking about hip-hop has become a quick way to cover black youth, but it is an incomplete conversation without discussing things like patriarchy and kryiarchy. It is also tiring to see hip-hop either treated with kid gloves (we must defend the art at all costs!) or at arm’s length (rap is destroying our community, but the youth love it!) Where is the critical discussion of the role or potential of hip-hop as a mobilizing political force? What about the entrepreneurial drive of many hip-hoppers? What about a series on dealing with the contradictions that we live with?

So, readers, I am opening the floor. What kind of racial discussions would we like to see from CNN?

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Comments

  1. j wrote:

    A quote from WEB DuBois:

    “Between me and the other world there is ever an unasked question: unasked by some through feelings of delicacy; by others through the difficulty of framing it. All, nevertheless, flutter round it. They approach me in a half-hesitant sort of way, eye me curiously or compassionately, and then, instead of saying directly, ‘How does it feel to be a problem?’, they say, ‘I know an excellent colored man in my town’…. At these I smile, or am interested, or reduce the boiling to a simmer, as the occasion may require. To the real question, ‘How does it feel to be a problem?’, I answer seldom a word. And yet, being a problem is a strange experience, peculiar even for one who has never been anything else….”

    The problem with ‘Blacks in America’ and other well-meaning efforts like it is that ‘we’ are continually constructed as a problem or as otherwise problematic. That is not to say that there aren’t real issues in black communities. But our issues continue to be constructed as pathological deviations from a presumed ‘normal’ and white ground. In other words, I’m waiting for the CNN series ‘White in America’ that discusses the problems of gun violence in schools, U.S. aggression abroad, depletion of natural resources, and the proliferation of drugs, violent crime and rape in every corner of the U.S.

  2. Cynthia wrote:

    I’d love to see the media tackle issues Asians face that I have covered in my blog. So this goes beyond the typical academic/career-oriented pressures, the “ideal family” pressures, media images etc…would love to see the media tackle class conflict, generational-cultural conflict, especially when the younger generation is more “traditional” in a sense, but western-traditional instead of old country traditional, etc…

  3. PerceptiveReality wrote:

    And here it is again America… A magic trick on how to take a nation of people and explain them in a 4 hour special. I compare it to tryin to put a Lake in a tea cup. It just cant happen, something I believe even God would have a hard time doing. I did not watch the “special” becuase as many are already confirming, I knew that it would be an “attempt” to open Americas eyes to the black community. An attempt that went wrong, and seemingly, pretty drastically wrong. Why is it that when blacks are portrayed in the media in forums such as this, you leave with a sense of satisifaction, happiness or enlightenment (I think that fits). The feeling is always that of a “feel bad for us” kind of deal, as if we as a people are always trying to just reach out and “HELP ME HELP ME”. But hey maybe thats just me.

    I wonder when the series “White in America” is coming out?

  4. Lyonside wrote:

    OMG – AMEN to the criticism of this series. I saw the Black Women one and turned off the Black Men one early on when the stereotypes got overwhelming.

    What do I want to see from CNN? The complex interactions between different “race”/ethnic groups and how they are infleunced by the history of racism and the white-normative culture in which we are all raised in the US. I want examples of unity to counter the divisiveness that already makes the news on a regular basis. I want acknowlegement that too many groups are fighting for smaller pieces of pie, while the big slices keep get bigger. I want them to consider regional differences.

    Failing that, I want them to go back to reporting news and not the latest Lohan escapade. But that’s asking too much from our 24-7 news services.

  5. Sean Carter wrote:

    Can Someone please first define BLack Community? The implications are that Black people are only connected through skin color, drama, slavery and other perils. Maybe Blacks should define or redefine this notion before inviting the world or Media in to exploit and make money from it.

    just my take.

  6. Lyonside wrote:

    Sean: This is why I try to talk about black communities (plural).

  7. Antonio wrote:

    I didn’t watch the special, but I was frustrated to learn about the lack of discussion about gay and lesbian blacks. As someone once said, being gay in the black community is almost equivalent to being a murderer. And no mention of gay black men while discussing HIV/AIDS? Talk about ignoring the elephant in the room.

    There also needs to be some discussion about the “acting white” phenomenon and why some blacks STILL think talking proper and making good grades is “white”.

    I’ve heard there’s more in-depth material on the CNN website. Unfortunately most people won’t see that.

  8. Lisa J wrote:

    J you are right on with your WEB DuBois quote, I hadn’t heard it before, but it is so spot on. I never would have put it in those terms, but that is it in a nutshell. It is very draining being a “problem” isn’t it?

    As for the special, someone sent me an e-mail alerting me to it coming on, and I told them that I had no interest in watching something that the MSM, especially CNN had to say to try to frame who black people are. I knew I’d get mad or be frustrated. It sounds like it may not have been as bad as it could have been but I was just not in the mood.

    I’m also on the same page with j again, on when is there going to be a 4 hour special on being white in America that highlights some of the major problems that we see disproportionately in the white community.

    Also, Cynthia, though I would like to see something on the Asian community (of which I have limited knowledge) do you really think we could trust a CNN to do the topic justice? Or would it be as someone else spoke of, a chance for non-Asians to feel “enlightened” based on a limited piece of info and a limited possibly biased view of a slice of the Asian community? I did recently see a special on PBS, it may have been part of the American Experience series, that talked about early Chineese imigration to the US in the 19th and early 20th century, it was very interesting and probably much better than something CNN could do. But that isn’t entirely what you are looking for since it is about the past mostly and was just focused on one nation within Asia.

  9. Renee wrote:

    @ perceptive Reality

    I wonder when the series “White in America” is coming out?

    An excellent point. Whiteness is very rarely discussed it is just assumed as normal and good. When we don’t take the time to critique with endow it with power through invisibility.

  10. Eva wrote:

    I did not watch this. When CNN does a story as to why most serial killers who can elude the authorities for decades(BTK, Dahmer, John Wayne Gacey, Ted Bundy) are white men, then I’ll think about it.

  11. Monie wrote:

    “So, readers, I am opening the floor. What kind of racial discussions would we like to see from CNN?”

    None! I wish CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC and all of the White run media would just forget that we exist. I am beyond tired of seeing these one dimensional portrayals of Black Americans.

    The Media will never get it right because the media exists to promote the status quo; Black people are bad and White people are good.

    American media PLEASE just pretend that Black Americans do not exist.

  12. Ali wrote:

    I must admit I still haven’t been able to bring myself to watch the series. After all of the comments I’ve read it seems like more of the same old bullshit and I don’t think I can stomach it.

    One thing that has really disappointed/ pissed me off about the blogosphere reaction is some of the comments. What About Our Daughters was the first site I noticed opening commenting forums both before and after the show aired and some of the things posted post-show were kind of atrocious. I love the WAOD site and learn a great deal from reading the posts but some of the myopic, homophobic crap that was posted in the comments section over there really turned me off.

    Renee posted a excellent and thoughtful comment questioning the exclusion of the perspective of the lgbt community from the special and some commenters actually had the nerve to agree that they should not be included because they would “misrepresent” black America and black women “already have enough problems.” Ick! Gag me with a wooden spoon!

    I’m glad Latoya posted this topic because I’m looking forward to a much more comprehensive/rational discussion of what the special did and did not achieve on this thread.

    @j – Great point! “White In America” special? Keep waiting…

    @Cynthia – I would love to see an honest program highlighting Asian-American experience as well. For some reason I feel like the “White In America” special would probably happen first.

    @Antonio – So true about ignoring the elephant in room by having the audacity not to bring up black gay men during a discussion on HIV/AIDS. WTF is that!?

  13. geo wrote:

    i wrote a long post about this on my blog.

    so many things i foudn troubling about the series. but most of all the absence of discussing White Privilege. Without speaking on it, it leads blacks, whites, and everyone in between to think the problems plaguing the Black community is due to a questionable cultural rectitude or inherent iniquities. The serious was bereft of historical context.

    Also, I am tired of White men being advertised as an upgrade from Black men. I am not against interracial relationships in any fashion. I am disturbed about promoting White men as a “savior”. This will only lead to Black women marrying White men of lower quality all because they look good on paper.

  14. geo wrote:

    @ Antonio- I have big problems with the way people discuss the “acting white” phenomenon. It is always discussed in relation to grades. I think there are more variables at play as to why some Black kids are labeled as “acting white”. I do not think it is solely or predominately due to academic achievement. Because some high achieving White students are mocked and jeered and other aren’t. The same goes for Black students. IMO, “acting white” goes further than just being a smart Black student.

  15. kim h20s wrote:

    this special has been almost universally panned as being derivative, but in a weird way it is doing its job. in the past few days i have blogged more, discussed more, and dialogued more than i ever have all in response to cnn. this may be a wake up call. or perhaps cnn exemplifies that idea that something can be either a good example or a horrible warning.

    i agree with the earlier commenters on the lack of voice for gay / lesbian blacks. too often black gays are portrayed as having been led astray by whites. lesbians are ” that way” because they were so hurt by black men. black men are stigmatized as being on the down low.

  16. James wrote:

    I really enjoyed CNN’s Black In America documentary, and I find much of this criticism wrongheaded and unfounded.

    The attempt here was not to condense a nation of citizens into 4 hours, it was to offer some general sketches on the trials and tribulations of a few segments of the African American community. While many can quibble with it’s examples and the personal stories offered, I believe that most of the criticism I’ve read here missed the single most worthwhile element of this series, the element that simply does not exist in other documentary glances at Black America.

    Black folk on CNN disagreed with each other!

    This is not a worthless point! This practically never happens in mainstream media portrayals of people of color. The screenwriter was not expected to parrot the marketing exec.’s perspectives, and vice versa. Black fathers who sacrifice everything they are to provide for their families were presented, along with a guy who lacked a real notion of fatherhood, who makes excuses for showing up to his daughter’s first birthday.

    Soledad O’Brian offered viewers a quick glimpse into several mainstreams of the Black community, and should be commended and congratulated for this achievement. Gay, disabled, and Ivy League-educated Black political consultants living in the Southwest were not profiled, and I do not believe those omissions detract from the subtle import of this series. Frankly, I’ve never viewed a cable news broadcast that I found so relevant to my experiences as a Black person.

    And yes, I disagreed with much of the program, from the Black family presented as ecstatic over finding their White other half to the Black women who pine over solitude to the endless visual use of The Game and Ice Cube as the boogeymen of gangsta rap, but I applaud this series because no reasonable person can watch it and conclude that we are one monolithic group of people.

    That deserves respect.

  17. Tariq Nelson wrote:

    So, readers, I am opening the floor. What kind of racial discussions would we like to see from CNN?

    I would love to see forums and discussions on what we can DO to help solve problems rather than continue to complain about them. I believe that there are many people out there of all races that would love to help, but are clueless about what to do or how to do it. Let’s give people some options for how they can help others

  18. Brigitte wrote:

    Everytime Joseph C. Phillips (the conservative black dude from The Cosby Show) came on the screen I wanted to put a boot in his face.

    It’s not just that he’s conservative. It’s that he never offers any solutions, just blind criticism of what other people are doing…and he seems like an assh*le.

    The series itself was meh. The “women and family” episode in particular seemed to jump all over the place and I thought it was odd how it spent so much time focusing on IR relationships instead of on biracial individuals or what the concept of race really means to Black Americans.

  19. cosmicsistren wrote:

    I HATED the show. I could only stomach one hour of the special on the black woman and then I changed the channel. I found it to be very negative. It is the same crap that I see over and over when talking about the black experience. I didn’t really feel the special on the black woman covered black women. I am single and college educated and according to what I saw maybe I should just forget about ever marrying a man let alone a black man.
    I was also digusted when the volunteers went to the house to get the young boy to go back to school. Where was his mother? You cannot blame everything bad that happens to black people soley on racism. What happened to personal accountablility? The woman with the four kids and the niece could have used some contraceptive. The show portrayed blacks as shiftless, lazy people. I KNOW that isn’t me. Didn’t feel that I was represented. Like someone else said I felt that the female voice in the panel discussions was not represented enough. I am sick and tired of hearing about the plight of the black man but when it comes to discussions on black people female voices are seldom heard. You have one woman on a panel and the rest are men. Men don’t speak for me!!!

  20. Jen* wrote:

    I couldn’t watch the whole thing. I said my piece in my blog – I thought – and then read Mahlena-Rae Johnson’s take, which took me to the celeb videos, and Soledad’s own clip of what she hoped to accomplish. That had me commenting again.

    Yes, at least someone attempted coverage of black people in America – and it wasn’t entirely focused on us being gangstas and hoodrats…but a bar that low is just not something I can get excited about.

  21. cnn's lazy hacks wrote:

    Shows like this are why we as black people need to create our own media online as much as possible, so that we don’t have to rely on or care about the garbage that passes for journalism. I personally am less concerned with how these shows look to white people than I am concerned with how they affect people in the black community.

    I know that for some people, shows like this are monumental because they feel so isolated or are do disconnected from their own feelings that just seeing someone on television that looks like them, going through similar things that they are, can be very powerful for people who have not been exposed to critical race theory, identity politics, etc.

    But, for those of us who think about these things, these shows are as boring as plain toast.

    I really don’t care what soledad o’brien has to say. I get nothing of value from cnn’s “crack-team” of analysts. I want to hear real stories, real opinions, real thoughts from real people. I don’t want to watch an hour of awkward sound-bytes and ignorant lines of questioning. Every show that is like this isn’t for us. It’s like a CB40-esque “safari” for white people into our lives. If we made the show for us, they would NEVER show it on network tv until the day when all of our struggles have been overcome.

    As far as what we can do about it?

    1. Make our own content on youtube, etc. (whether you like the message or not, the movie “confessions from a tired black man” was far more interesting than anything cnn could ever do.)

    2. Create more businesses that just cater to us and our community. EXCLUSIVELY PATRONIZE those businesses as much as possible. We need some JCC’s for us, you know? B-Date, free trips to Africa, an african diaspora sitcom! Instead of the Yeshiva, we have the Ikahanda.

    3. BOYCOTT TV. We all hate it more and more everyday. Why not just stop watching altogether?

    4. Become the system. Don’t go non-profit. Let’s build our own media empires.

  22. Antonio wrote:

    Geo,

    I agree that it’s more complex than that (I also mentioned talking as a way to be labeled “white”, and musical preferences is also a factor), but the central problem is the idea that you should talk/act a certain way and like certain types of music to be considered “black”.

  23. Arnold Layne wrote:

    I believe that there are many people out there of all races that would love to help, but are clueless about what to do or how to do it.

    This is a likely origin for colorblindness. Whites who want to be anti-racist have little to no idea how to achieve that. Making the logic leap from “wanting to be treated the same” to “wanting to be seen as the same” is short and easy despite it’s being wrong. Compounding the problem, very few who understand colorblindness seem to have the wordcraft to adequately explain why that leap is wrong.

    As for the show, its impact was minimal with 2.1 and 2.6 million viewers on the respective nights, less than 1% of the US population. That’s barely enough to start conversations among the choir.

  24. Renee wrote:

    @Brigitte

    Everytime Joseph C. Phillips (the conservative black dude from The Cosby Show) came on the screen I wanted to put a boot in his face.

    I completely concur..could CNN not afford to get Bill Cosby to weigh in and that is why they had him trading on his association to parrot his views. He is a member of the Black Afrostocracy and people like him don’t want to admit the degree to which they exploit the poor, that is why they are intent on individual blame. I find him and people like him to be deplorable.

  25. Ron wrote:

    #1 – I could not agree more with your analysis.

    I think this program unintentionally to showed Black America to the world as problematic and lacking gratitude by not taking advantage of opportunities.

    I do not think discussing these issues on television helps.

    This show just illustrated our desire to be validated by those who do not have our best interests in mind.

    As much as I think the world has changed and progressed the more it stays the same.

    This show could be re-run twenty years from now and the problems would be the same. In fact these same issues were discussed twenty years ago.

    It is our responsiblity to talk to each other not some network trying to make ratings off the misery of AA.

    Like I always say AA continue to make others wealthy without us they would not have a livelihood.

    Police, talk show hosts, academics, teachers, criminal justice, researchers, prison guards, corporations, small businesses, etc. are blood suckers of black people.

  26. Tiffany wrote:

    @ Geo

    “Also, I am tired of White men being advertised as an upgrade from Black men. I am not against interracial relationships in any fashion. I am disturbed about promoting White men as a “savior”. This will only lead to Black women marrying White men of lower quality all because they look good on paper.”

    Geo I 100% agree with this statement, Im tired of this also because this is what I feel is being done. I have seen countless examples of both black men and women running to white men or women thinking that this is an upgrade and end up in worse situations.

    Instead of solving their issues within their community between black men and women, people are running and leaving their problems behind and its only a matter of time until that problem resurfaces again.

    “but most of all the absence of discussing White Privilege. Without speaking on it, it leads blacks, whites, and everyone in between to think the problems plaguing the Black community is due to a questionable cultural rectitude or inherent iniquities. The serious was bereft of historical context”

    I agree with this also!!!

  27. Nicole wrote:

    Black in America did not capture the whole black experience. I would love to see someone do a special on a single black woman not looking for love. I’d love to see something about a HIV negative virgin that’s asexual, because that’s my black experience. Sexual identity is a huge issue in the black communities and us asexual are always left out. To top it off, I know I don’t want children, and so, what about my story?

  28. browne wrote:

    @CNN Lazy hacks number 21

    “t’s like a CB40-esque “safari” for white people into our lives. ” Funny and true.

    Exactly to everything you said and we really stop watching TV. What is the point of TV. I got rid of my TV years ago and I feel 20% better and I lost ten pounds…lol…

    Only bad thing about not having TV on a regular basis is that often people write using pop referencing referring to TV shows and I have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. My one guilty pleasure is watching South Park online and the references on that show, don’t get anything that’s past 2003 if it’s a TV show or movie reference.

    I have to go online to look it up, the internet the new TV…

  29. Yvette wrote:

    It’s like a CB40-esque “safari” for white people into our lives.

    Wonderful assessment. My hunch is that this was not a program that had as its intended demographic Black folks. It was intended for a White viewing audience.

  30. Renee wrote:

    It was intended for a White viewing audience.

    Yes Yvette I could not agree more. Imagine how pleased white men are to discover that black women are expecting them to “take up the white mans burden” and save us. Put this next to the fact that the series celebrated the racist great grandfather it is completely disgusting.

  31. Prometheus wrote:

    After being disappointed in missing the first run of the series I made a very directed effort to catch the re-runs, too bad I was somewhat disappointed by the content of the program.

    The truth is this program was designed for ‘White’ audiences, that’s one reason why they chose Soledad O’Brien, who has to be the most non-threatening image of the ‘Black’ woman in the media. She’s familiar and easygoing to all of America.

    Sean Carter (5) I am TOTALLY with you. For the ease of classification we often speak of African Americans as one unit, which I also found especially interesting talking to folks in this year’s presidential primary season.

    Contrary to my huge expectations about the series, the purpose of this program was just to really reflect the African American experience to all of America. While it simply did a decent job of that, I feel Renee’s comments hit the nail on the head. I too thought many of those things but was simply too lazy to write them.

    And, while we’re on the topic of race…can we have a special about our Hispanic/Latin brothers and sisters? I think the information provided in that series would educate us all a bit more.

  32. A. wrote:

    My mother and I watched Black in America together.

    We both agreed that the Black Men segment was better. But we felt that the Black Woman and Family section was nothing but more “Let’s talk shit about black women, but not necessarily say the reasons WHY black women continue to struggle, or WHY the man was being put out of his home, or WHY black inner-city schools are worse off than others.”

    The facts were erased from the series. The only information they provided about Biracial PoC is that “They’re having an identity crisis.”

    Black women are NOT a monolithic entity. We are not just single mothers with a bunch of kids by different fathers (or by the same father), we are not all women who have STDs, we are not all poor, we are not all ghetto, we are not all women who are doomed to be alone, we are not all successful, we are not all on Public Aid, etc.

    Let’s talk about middle class black women who are married and happy. Let’s talk about black women who are lesbians. Let’s talk about black women, who are also incarcerated.

    The problem with that part of the series is that they worked too much in extremes, and tried to paint those extremes as “typical.”

  33. A. wrote:

    Another thing that they tried to largely leave out was the Black UPPERCLASS, and not the “Nouveau Riche” black upperclass either. I’m referring to people who have their kids in things like Jack and Jill, all that good stuff. The people that Larry Graham wrote about in “Our Kind of People” and will have in his “800 Register.” They’re just as representative of blacks as well.

  34. Kami wrote:

    Cynthia and Lisa J, I’m pretty sure that CNN did a special on Asian Americans last year. It seems like they are making the rounds and Hispanics/Latinos will be next.

  35. browne wrote:

    My opinion is this A if the black upper class is like the white upper class they don’t want that kind of publicity. Rich people don’t like people in their personal business, which is why they can stay rich. The rest of us on the other hand would sell our right pinkie to get on TV…

  36. Eric Daniels wrote:

    Well I can say with a straight face after watching CNN’s Black In America not a hell of a lot !!! What I did learn is that Racial Reconciliation is a Fool’s Paradise that is just a mirage in any reasonable way.

    I have come away with with a few things after seeing the second day of the special and it is that racial reconciliation is “Fool’s Gold” and if the letters by the rest of America is any indication it will only end in disapointement for the majority of Black Americans and we have to develop alternative politcal, economic, spirtual, and educational constructs to develop as a separate “Black Nation” we are not Black In America, or American Citizens but legal aliens with no country and rights which are tenous at best like in the “Dread Scott ” ruling that the “Black Man has no rights that the White Man is bound to respect” and that has not changed since 1856 and it is still the same today, it may not be codfied into law but it is stained into lifeblood of this society with no sense of ending anyday soon.

    I just wished CNN and Soledad O’Brien would have invited some Black Men and Women of all walks of life I know who would have had some real answers instead of the milquetoast Blacks they usually talk to, I think they would have gotten the real” Black America” and it would have been interesting documentary then, but alas we have to deal with this while a bit better than usual I still say not a hell of a lot.Americans at this point are comfortable with it’s sterotypes of Black Americans.

  37. NancyP wrote:

    Geo @ #14 is quite right about the usual ‘acting white’ discourse focused on academics. Middle school kids are cut out of the ‘in’ crowd for all sorts of reasons, and relegated to various forms of social inferiority. Would it be reasonable to say that an “acting white” label in a black-predominant school would be equivalent to a “dork” label in a white-predominant school, just an all-purpose term for kids who don’t fit in?

    From my white perspective in an overwhelmingly white middle and high school where 95% of people went on to college, studious kids could be ‘in’ if they weren’t obsessed with a boring-to-others topic, had the ability to say the’ right thing’ at the right time, were good at some sort of non-school activity (sports especially), and were obviously heterosexual. Shy studious geeks with little interest in gossip and heterosexual display just got labeled as perpetual examples of what not to be, the butts of jokes, or merely as eternal bores.

  38. Squidfly wrote:

    Joseph C Phillips is an opportunist in the true Rush, Coulter, Hannity, O’Reilly, mold; just making a quick buck in these United States. He’s all bluster no substance.
    CNN’s timing is clear, elections being around the corner, the motives unclear. Racial ambiguity is the bread and butter of MSM.

  39. A. wrote:

    @browne.

    I grew up in such an atmosphere – so I get people all the time trying to downplay my “blackness” because I don’t behave in ways that they expect black people to behave, or explain to them the fact that I have never set foot in a ghetto.

    With the black upper-class, they don’t like too much attention, but, from my own experiences, they do like for people to know that, yes, a black upper-class does exist, and it doesn’t consist of athletes, musicians and entertainers.

  40. Kenny wrote:

    Geo is right. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that whole BS about getting a White man is the answer for a Black woman’s happiness.Good grief how stupid is that?If two out of three marriages end in divorce and Whites make up most of the US population and it’s married couples.Then someone is divorcing White men all the time, The grass is always greener on the other side.Certainly this White male savior thinking has affected the Asian community and it’s women’s thinking too. I even had women wh asked me if I was going to see the film “Something New? As if Iwas going to go out of way ,and my pocket to be fed that same old tired propoganda just because it was written by a Black woman.

  41. Tina Brown wrote:

    “Let’s talk about middle class black women who are married and happy. Let’s talk about black women who are lesbians. Let’s talk about black women, who are also incarcerated.”

    I agree completely, A.

    A friend and I were discussing the mini-series and the reactions to it and noticed a significant community within “Black America” was missing. We are both 1st generation Americans, the children of immigrants. It seems that according to CNN we do not exist. We found this ironic considering that both of Soledad Obrien’s parents were immigrants. It is important to remember that “Black” is not automatically synonymous with “African-American.” Being a significant part of “Black America” (whatever that really means) we were shocked and angry that we weren’t even mentioned once.

    Also, I do agree that this “documentary” was not intended for a black audience. This became obvious within the first 10 minutes of the first part. A fact I thought was emphasized by the poet’s poems surrounding one major theme: “find out how ______ (fill in the blank) plagues us”

  42. gatamala wrote:

    I’m glad I didn’t bother!

  43. Jenny wrote:

    I agree with ‘A.’ The most disappointing thing to me was the lack of investigation into WHY things are as they are. For example, in the segment about kids in school I kept waiting for some stats about how black kids are treated differently than whites in school, or what other factors affect their academic performance…. but there was nothing.

  44. Renee wrote:

    @ Tina
    A friend and I were discussing the mini-series and the reactions to it and noticed a significant community within “Black America” was missing. We are both 1st generation Americans, the children of immigrants.

    You know the immigrant part is something I completely missed. I think it is because I am first generation westerner myself and spend so much time trying to justify my identity as an “authentic Canadian”. Here all POC are assumed to be from somewhere else whereas in the states it is assumed that they are decedents of slaves. hmmm that is something that really deserves more thought,

  45. Lyonside wrote:

    Renee: > Here all POC are assumed to be from somewhere else whereas in the states it is assumed that they are decedents of slaves.

    Well, POCs in the states are assumed to be “not from here originally” and the default “American” is still white. People who look African-descent are assumed to be descendents of slaves. People who look Asian or Latino or otherwise non-Western-European are assumed to be immigrants or children of recent immigrants.

  46. browne wrote:

    I just got through watching some snippets of the CNN special (like I said I would) all I have to say is WOW, so bad, so painfully bad. If this is what black on TV looks like, please god don’t put people who look like me on TV anymore.

    Browne

  47. Free wrote:

    When I saw the promo for the series I just sighed and thought, oh god, blacks folks on parade once again. Why now? It isn’t February. How odd. Wait. Obama’s running for President. That’s why. Cnn’s lazy hacks got it exactly right – safari. UGH!

    Personal responsibility is a code phrase for sociological factors don’t matter. And every time I heard that phrase uttered I just wanted to throw my shoe at the T.V. Can’t get a job because of discrimination? FU! Get a job! And no outrage is forthcoming. You and your kids gonna be on the streets? Tough luck. Your school sucks? So what. Struggling single mother? Get a man! No, you must surmount these problems because society doesn’t have to change. Martin’s dream, Martin’s dream, Martin’s dream … [disconnect].

    Remember the lady with the health problems, the one who can’t even buy a tomato in her neighborhood? What angered me the most was when she put that gallon of orange punch in her grocery cart and Soledad O’Brien described that act as “poor choices.” WTF! The choice mantra is just another lie that powers the engine of inequality. All that lady has to do is wait until her neighborhood gentrifies and then she will be able to get all the tomatoes she wants assuming that she can still afford to live there.

    I want CCN to do a White In America special so that we can all peer into the lives of white people: a glimpse into the norm. But power never has to look at itself. And power is what it’s all about.

  48. Free wrote:

    I look forward to reading and commenting on The Things We Do to Each Other and The Things We Do to Ourselves. I hope there is some discussion of how power (as in imposed will over others in spite of their resistance) influences how we treat ourselves and each other.

  49. Free wrote:

    Woops. My comment 48 belongs over at Letter from the Editrix. Sorry about that – I’ll post it over there.