Meet Esther Ku, the Asian Sarah Silverman

by Latoya Peterson

So, while moderating the Interracial Dating with a Vengeance thread, I was doing my best to save the kittens* when someone brought up Esther Ku.

Alvin, writing on the Hyphen blog, says:

What kind of insecure person makes a career basically being self-racist or self-deprecating and saying how much you hate yourself, who you are, and your family?

He points to this Boston Globe article which gives a summary of Ku’s act:

The Korean-American comedian started with the words, ”I don’t really like being Asian, but I’m kind of stuck with it.” That, at least, received a few titters. But when she continues, ”The only good thing about being Asian, really, is it helps you get into college,” the crowd stays silent. It goes downhill from there as she mines the subject of Caucasians adopting Asian babies.

”Nigerian babies cost like 25 cents a day,” says Ku. ”Asian babies cost a lot more because they pay off.”

As the crowd erupts in pained groans and a smattering of uncomfortable laughs, Ku innocently asks, ”Did I go too far?”

Later in the article, the Globe explains the kinds of problems Ku has with her act:

Ku also once found herself in an uncomfortable situation at a Chicago comedy club. She told the joke about Asian and Nigerian babies.

The underlying message of the joke is a cultural commentary about white people who adopt Asian babies, says Ku. ”How unfair it is that people purchase Asian babies like it’s an investment. I don’t mean to degrade Nigerian babies.”

At the Chicago venue, two African-American women didn’t see it that way. When they heard the joke, they demanded the producer stop the show. The women didn’t get an opportunity to confront Ku later; by then, she’d already left the venue. The comic made amends by explaining the joke to them via e-mail.

”That was,” says Ku, ”maybe the strongest reaction that I ever had doing a comedy show.”

I always find it fascinating when people think that by employing racial stereotypes that are still currently in use they are being novel, or lampooning the stereotype. Now, I understand this is a line that all comedians who deal in race have to cross. They know their intent behind the jokes, but they also have to deal with the fallout from making those kind of statements. We saw Dave Chappelle leave a cultural phenomenon and a 50 million dollar contract based on his discomfort with how his social commentary was being received and interpreted. And Chris Rock stopped doing one of his most famous sketches - Niggas vs. Black People - based on certain people justifying their use of the word with Rock’s routine.

But I still think there is a major difference between cleverly done racial commentary as part of a comedy act and the repackaging of stereotypes. Here is a video of one of Esther Ku’s performances:

(Miso funny? Booooooo!)

Readers, what do you think? Nuanced cultural commentary or advanced stereotyping?

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Aside: There’s a little pet peeve I have and it isn’t specific to one community. I see this all the time, in feminism, in fat acceptance, in other ethnic communities. It’s this kind of line (this one taken from Alvin’s entry on the Hypen blog):

Have you ever heard a black comedian base his/her career on how they hate being Black, how they love watermelon/chicken, and the only good thing about being black is it helps them get into the NFL?

Yes, dammit!

If you are not in the black community and you find yourself trying to ask the question “Would they do this to black people?” the answer is probably yes. You just aren’t privy to it! It’s not your community! Turn on Comicview. Watch Mike Epps’ most recent comedy special. There are way too many people who think that being funny means rolling through a laundry list of racial differences. “Black people do THIS! White people do THAT! My baby momma is trifiling!” Boring, boring, boring. But even some of my favorite comedians do this same playing on stereotypes for laughs. The only difference is that they are actually funny. (To me, anyway.) So while I may watch them, I’m not going to pretend that Katt Williams’ “Never in the history of Niggadom” bits are not problematic - they just aren’t his whole appeal. The same thing with Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle and Wanda Sykes. But for every one mega star comedian playing with the boundaries, there are thousands of hacks trying to push black stereotypes for fun and profit.

*To understand the “save the kittens” reference, go back to that thread and search for the term “kittens.”

Trackbacks & Pings

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    […] Comedy often utilizes broad generalizations and relies on an extreme, in your face approach. However, some comedy does so in order to critique and undercut problems within society, some does so in order to bolster and promote sexism, racism, homophobia, etc.  Satire falls in the former category. It aims to show society its foibles, to mock them, to subvert norms. The latter type of comedy, however, does not have the aim of changing people’s minds, let alone society, but merely is out for laughs. It is the difference between Jonathon Swift and Andrew Dice Clay, between South Park and The Howard Stern Show, between Margaret Cho* and Esther Ku… […]

Comments

  1. thesciencegirl wrote:

    I saw Esther Ku on Last Comic Standing, and crinkled my nose at her jokes about her immigrant parents, which included the phrase “ching chong”, but busted out laughing at her statement that she “doesn’t date Asian men because she likes regular guys.” Her delivery of the first jokes made me squirm, but the second seemed to be like a hilarious harpooning of a stereotype. I wasn’t sure how I felt about her, so I looked up videos of her online, and the more I watched, the less funny she became. I think she takes it too far.

    I have been trying to figure out where I stand on the whole racial humor thing. I have always used humor to express my frustration with racism, but I have found myself in situations where I realized that my attempt to expose ignorance could be misinterpreted by my audience. I am still not sure where to draw the line, but I joke about race a lot less with my friends.

  2. john mccollum wrote:

    Yeah. She’s not funny. And she’s not particularly insightful, either, and that makes her act all the more offensive. If you subtract the racial stereotypes, there’s no “there” there.

    At least with Chris Rock, his work has merit on its own. It’s politically astute, not just politically incorrect. It’s provokes discussion, not just offense. It’s “ha-ha” not “does this growth look funny?” funny.

    All of this leads me to the conclusion that any success Esther Ku experiences is attributable to one of two factors:

    1) Many people find racial stereotypes inherently funny. (We call those people racists, right?)

    2) Many people have become so conditioned by current trends in comedy that they laugh reflexively when they’re uncomfortable, and for the producers of LCS, uncomfortable laughs are better than no laughs at all.

    The good news in all of this is that Esther Ku will never be a major force in entertainment. She’s just not that good.

  3. john mccollum wrote:

    Quoth thesciencegirl: “Her delivery of the first jokes made me squirm, but the second seemed to be like a hilarious harpooning of a stereotype.”
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    I don’t know. Perhaps it’s just a matter of craft, but with Sarah Silverman, for instance, it’s usually obvious that the joke is on racists, not on members of a specific race. I couldn’t easily make that case for Esther Ku.

  4. Rounder wrote:

    I have to agree. There are a handful of comedians out there who are pushing boundaries and making people think. But there are FAR too many people out there who are just looking for a reason to use racial slurs (”I’m making fun of people who saying things like that” or my personal favorite “It’s funny because it’s NOT funny”). Then one is treated like they are uncool because they “don’t get it.” One of these days “fake racism” jokes are going to get someone into a REAL fight.

  5. lowercase tasha wrote:

    @thesciencegirl

    no, it was the other way around with me. The first joke about her visit to Korea and getting into different cars cause she couldn’t tell her relatives apart from everyone else. That was funny. And the immigration stuff, like the fortune cookie with the fortune inside that was written in Spanish. That was hilarious! I showed the first clip to some other people, that weren’t particularly race conscious or PC, to get a less biased opinion, and they laughed at all the jokes I laughed at and were offended by the jokes about Asian men. They didn’t laugh at that at all.

    And one of these days, I’m going to have to watch more than three sketches of Chappelle to see what all the fuss is about. I keep hearing that Dave was so noble in turning down his deal because of fears of how his comedy reflected upon his fellow African Americans, but did he really turn down that money for altruistic reasons, or were the high expectations and pressure of the filming schedule too much for him to bare?

  6. wendi muse wrote:

    we had a racialicious reader who had created a video for his students to discuss racism and racial humor…

    if you’re out there, how did it turn out?

  7. Jennifer wrote:

    Just looked at the clip, and I agree with commenter #2–she’s just not that funny. And it’s really unclear whether she’s being ironic or not. I think that irony is a key component to good comedy (maybe that’s a personal preference since I’m not into slapstick). Some of Chapelle’s skits were hilarious because they employed irony. Same with Margaret Cho–when she does this bit about not having Asian American role models on tv and she looks in the mirror pretending to be her younger childhood self and says, “When I grow up, I want to play a whore on M*A*S*H” she’s FUNNY because she doesn’t REALLY want to play a prostitute on tv, but because in the 1970s those were the only roles that seemed available to Asian American women on tv and film.

    It’s also too easy for Ku to be taken *seriously* and not *ironically* by others, and then to use her as justification for making fun of Asians in America. But really, at the end of the day, she’s just not that funny.

  8. Lyle wrote:

    Watching the video above makes me like her more, actually. She comes of as really nervous and her jokes mostly fall flat for me, which is a contrast to her Last Comic Standing audition where she was relentlessly perky, making her racist jokes seem more like a persona of a clueless ditz who has never questioned stereotypes about her own culture.

    I think her biggest problem is delivery, she’s still working on getting that ‘irresponsible fool’ tone down, but I detect a lot of bitterness to her jokes. I mean, “I’m so American, I’m against immigration.”

  9. Broderick Chow wrote:

    It’s hit and miss, but there are some killer jokes in there. What I do think she has down is a pretty good stage persona with all the weird Valley Girl modulations in her voice - which, like Sarah Silverman, makes it clear for me that the joke is on her…

    I will say that, as an Asian comedian myself, albeit living in the UK, it’s very difficult not to talk about your race, and it’s even more difficult not to send up stereotypes. If you don’t acknowledge it at all it’s the elephant in the room, if you do acknowledge it without using stereotypes you have to be fucking GOOD. I think non-white comics have a hard time that way, with one standard for “comics,” and another standard for “minority comics.” It sucks but it’s there.

  10. joe ink wrote:

    I think she was quite funny. Not every joke. But there was enough witty transgression, like the stuff on immigration, to not throw her under the bus.

  11. deb wrote:

    I thought Michelle Malkin was the Asian Sarah Silverman.

  12. atlasien wrote:

    I made it about 30 seconds through. Completely pathetic. Sub-Mencia level pathetic!

    A lot of it is her delivery. She’s constantly simpering and cringing, as if she’s afraid the audience will collectively whack her on the head with a rolled-up newspaper. You can’t handle complicated racial material from a position of abject weakness like the one she’s embodying in that performance.

  13. Btwnm27 wrote:

    ?What kind of insecure person makes a career basically being self-racist or self-deprecating and saying how much you hate yourself, who you are, and your family??

    Um lets see, a majority of black stand up comedians, a majority of stand up asian comedians, a majority of white stand up comedians, stand up comedians in general…

    I don’t see what the problem with this video is. She’s a hot chick who is funny, which is an anomaly in most cases.

  14. Philly Phil wrote:

    this poor girl just can’t get a break. i agree with everything JENNIFER posted above.

    ku’s biggest crime is just not being that funny. hopefully, she’ll get better with time.

  15. Sulyp wrote:

    LOL@ deb.

    The thing with this *comedienne* is that she is not only ‘not funny’, but she also also appears to fall into another stereotype IMO: that Asians don’t want to be Asian, and that they are loathing every minute of it. I despise self-deprecation in all it’s forms… especially under the guise of humor. A few comedians can pull off dicey subjects, but the vast majority of them, including this chick, cannot.

  16. chairo wrote:

    This is pretty sad to see

    It had me cringing quite a bit throughout.
    People who can’t see what’s problematic here need to think about how much racist humour is directed at Asians. I think we need to compare how much racial is directed at Asians, and blacks then compared that with the meagre number thats directed at whites. The whole point of a lot of “racial humour” is to giggle at how far away from the desired normalcy someone is.

    A lot of these racist jokes aren’t really delivered with any irony; its just making fun out of asians.

    At a pub during new years I was with some friends who brought their friends, and when a group of east asian students came into the room, with a sardonic look on his face one of the guys at our table said “get out” . He said it like he was speaking to dogs.

    A lot of this racism isn’t be spoken about in a big way, which makes any discourse about it seem “uptight” or just not worth talking about to a lot of people.

  17. squidfly wrote:

    I read the posting’s, then I watched the clip. I disagree with many of the comments. The audience was faced with a different comedic narrative, an attractive Asian American Woman, telling her jokes with a cutesy, femmy, girly, delivery that had a definite point of view, this was her character choice all very deliberate.
    Attractive women doing comedy are rarely taken seriously, most people find it unattractive. Add not only race into the mix, but the fact she’s Korean American and it’s an epidemic of judgement’s. Her humor is obviously grounded in her observational experience of living in a racially convoluted and sexist society. It’s good to hear.

    As a friend of mine joked, maybe Asian Men and Black Women should start dating since all their options have been taken.

  18. atlasien wrote:

    She is not just being self-deprecating. She’s actively reinforcing bullshit stereotypes. I’m personally not a huge Margaret Cho fan, but her comedy is lightyears better than this, and it’s because she performs from a position of strength and confidence. Without that, self-deprecation has no comic value, because it’s really just self-abasement.

    Ku’s whole act screams out “I want white people to like me soooo baaaad”. I think it might even be worse than a lot of regressive black comedians, because at least a lot of their humor tends to be tailored to black audiences.

    Asian-American humor directed towards Asian-American audiences doesn’t have a strong tradition, but it’s out there, and it’s not too hard to tell the difference (ok, there is a bit of overlap when it comes to parent jokes).

  19. momo wrote:

    she needs some new material…”jokes” like those wont take her too far. I hope she has a plan B

  20. TJ wrote:

    I was (or am?) friends with this comedian on myspace.

    I’m with Dave Chappelle on this one. Chappelle left his show, at least in part, “discomfort with how his social commentary was being received and interpreted”. I can’t tell if Esther Ku intends to confront American views or profit from them. I want to root for her but she doesn’t a good enough job of mining any underlying truths, she settles with stereotypes and then free-associates from there to bizarre effect. Are her sudden non sequiturs the ’surprise’ that’re supposed to make her funny? Sorry to analyze a joke, but when Chappelle says “All these years, I thought I liked chicken because it was delicious. Turns out, I’m genetically predisposed to like a chicken!”, we laugh because we’re primed to believe that if you’re black you like to eat chicken (and watermelon, etc.); that is, there is meaning linked to your black-ness that makes you presumed guilty of a trait before you, as an individual, has any chance to self-define. It says “black people aren’t individuals” so as far as we interact with them we can rely on the idea that their internal state is dismissable. Dave Chappelle is funny, in part, because he reminds us that black people do have internal states, and that the racial assumptions are fallacious, especially if we follow them to their logical conclusions. For instance, the idea of a racial draft speaks to the fallacy of racial ownership and identity itself, how we choose to include or exclude.

  21. Kirk Van Irvin wrote:

    I got the niggas vs. black people and I understand and agree what Chris Rock meant. That just happens to be the term some black people use to describe ignorant black people; Black Americans use nigga; white Americans use trailer trash, etc. (I don’t know what Asians or Latinos say- I’d like to know!

  22. thesciencegirl wrote:

    “john mccollum wrote:

    Quoth thesciencegirl: “Her delivery of the first jokes made me squirm, but the second seemed to be like a hilarious harpooning of a stereotype.”
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    I don’t know. Perhaps it’s just a matter of craft, but with Sarah Silverman, for instance, it’s usually obvious that the joke is on racists, not on members of a specific race. I couldn’t easily make that case for Esther Ku.”

    Well, I guess that was ultimately my problem with her act. As an individual, I might see how specific jokes are intended to display the idiocy of the people who actually hold those views (e.g. The idea that white guys are “regular” people, who by default everyone should consider attractive and dateable). But I agree with what you’ve said, as I stated later my comment. There is a very fine line between laughing at racists and making racists laugh, and I think she crosses the line. And mostly, she’s just not all that funny.

  23. TJ wrote:

    ….And i agree with her when she says “I don’t like being Asian” if by that she’s working through the notion that “being Asian” means that before i can have a conversation with you we have to get past all the assumptions you make about “Asian” people and therefore attribute to me.

    I don’t want to be black if black is merely the effect of a political agenda that shunts me into a disadvantaged social position.

    Nevermind that the primary message being communicated there is that Asian means “not part of our special club”, i.e. out-group, which has more sinister implications.

    But Esther Ku is not good at communicating that nuance at this point. That or she’s settled for shallower explanations.

  24. lowercase tasha wrote:

    “I read the posting’s, then I watched the clip. I disagree with many of the comments. The audience was faced with a different comedic narrative, an attractive Asian American Woman, telling her jokes with a cutesy, femmy, girly, delivery that had a definite point of view, this was her character choice all very deliberate.
    Attractive women doing comedy are rarely taken seriously, most people find it unattractive. Add not only race into the mix, but the fact she’s Korean American and it’s an epidemic of judgement’s. Her humor is obviously grounded in her observational experience of living in a racially convoluted and sexist society. It’s good to hear.”

    @squidfly

    Oh pah-leeze. Do not blame Ku’s lack of wit and tact, when bashing Asian men, on discrimination she might face because she’s an attractive, Asian female. That whole section of her routine sucked. Like the one line, “Who doesn’t have Asian fetish” then the one guy answers, and she’s all, “What, are you gay?”

    Another couple of zingers like that and she’ll be able to headline in a laundromat tour sponsored by Quiznos. The tour bus can double as a mobile massage parlor to help cover the cost of gas, and when there’s no actual food around, she can always eat her royalties. Me so funny!

    “As a friend of mine joked, maybe Asian Men and Black Women should start dating since all their options have been taken.”

    Whatever, I’m not racist. The only color that ever really mattered to me was green.

  25. thesciencegirl wrote:

    lowercase tasha,

    I didn’t like any of her jokes that were about Asian men, except the one I mentioned. The joke about people of color not being regular or normal was funny to me because for me at least, when I laughed, I was laughing at people who think that way. But I thought that her jokes in the clip linked above about Asian men were very unfunny, precisely because they encouraged people to laugh AT Asian men.

  26. Anonymous wrote:

    you’re missing the point. Ku is really really good looking. Last Comic Standing is casting a tv show- they need good looking people that will be interesting to watch. Ku will be that and she will go on to be a major force in entertainment

  27. Matt wrote:

    At times, I thought she did the impossible - progressive jokes about racism that really suck. I always thought that it took talent to do jokes that subvert stereotypes, and she definitely disabused me of that notion.

    But I think part of the problem might be the audience. She’s not getting much of a response, so she switches topics hoping for something that will play better. The stuff about immigration has played out in countless immigrant communities -it can be very hard for immigrants whose assimilation has been grudgingly acknowledged to have newer immigrants come along, and it always turns into the dominant group playing minorities against each other. If she’d gone on with that, I’m willing to be charitable and think there might have been a point there, but she let it go. And that’s where things get really sketchy.

    Well, maybe I’m saying you have to be good to get away with it.

  28. Anthony DeVito wrote:

    Self-hatred among comedians is a time-honored tradition. Along with anger, it’s probably the main reason most of us start doing comedy in the first place. But self-hatred and anger alone aren’t inherently funny. Neither are race, gender or class. In fact, those things are the opposite of funny; which is why we laugh when a talented comedian shows us a side of these topics we weren’t expecting.

    Most people don’t realize how hard it is to write and perform a REALLY good joke. Especially when it’s a joke about a subject that we know we probably shouldn’t laugh about. If you’re going to tackle things like race in your act, you have to be able to write REALLY good jokes. Almost anyone can write hacky bits about TV commercials and the wacky world of dating… which is why comics who do that kind of material often move up “the ladder” quickly; it’s non-threatening and makes audiences think they’re smart and hip. But to address the “squirmy” stuff like racism and ethnicity, you have to work hard to understand why you’re writing the joke, how to make it funny, what it’s saying and why people are laughing. And most comedians just don’t want to work that hard, when there are so many shortcuts to easy laughs.

    Being an Italian-American comedian myself, I knew early on that there was a certain kind of material I could do that would get me booked on “goomba” style comedy shows. I hate that crap, and so I don’t do shows like that. I try to write funny jokes that I’ve never heard anyone else do, some of which happen to me about my ethnicity.

    I guess that’s why I don’t find Esther Ku that funny; I’ve heard her premises a hundred times before. And her punchlines aren’t so original that they make a hacky premise okay. She’s amusing, and she’s attractive, and for the mass comedy audience that’s more than enough.

  29. Kelvin wrote:

    The kittens are all dead.

  30. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    @all-

    I encourage everyone to read the full Boston Globe article. It seems that the writer specifically highlighted instances of the comediennes clashing with their respective cultures and times when their jokes didn’t go over well. Their responses are fascinating.

    And no one has commented on Esther Ku’s “Nigerian Babies” joke. Did you think her explanation was adequate?

    @Anthony -

    Excellent points. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  31. Kelvin wrote:

    @Latoya,
    “And no one has commented on Esther Ku’s “Nigerian Babies” joke. Did you think her explanation was adequate?”

    Nope, they weren’t.

  32. Kelvin wrote:

    Nope, it wasn’t.

  33. Bang Gully wrote:

    From what I’ve seen of her act, I thought she was funny. I don’t have too many Asian friends (outside of some Vietnamese dudes) but I personally have never met any Asian girls with a straight forward sense of humour/ delivery like that. Maybe I need to meet more Asians. But still, females in general because of alot of societal constraints don’t get to develop the sense of humour that guys get to develop as part of their charm. So having an Asian female be funny is a positive in my book.

  34. Kelvin wrote:

    @Bang Gully

    ” But still, females in general because of alot of societal constraints don’t get to develop the sense of humour that guys get to develop as part of their charm. ”

    You’ve probably never heard any stuff from Lisa Lampenalli(sp).

  35. dee-rob wrote:

    @Anthony, as some one who’s done, plans to do more, comedy myself, I have to take a bit of issue with the self hatred/anger thing. I don’t think it’s universal (see Sheckymagazine.com).

    For me, part of the motivation in doing comedy was to get my own point of view that I didn’t see any where else (but people told me was quirky/funny) out there. I’m not angry, but I’ve never fit into societal norms, I think. In fact, I’ve been complimented on doing the somewhat hackneyed “chick in a relationship” angle by intentionally not being negative. I like my boyfriend, that’s why I live with him.

    In full disclosure, I know Esther Ku. I don’t think she’s particularly angry either. I actually don’t think she’s as self-hating as she comes off. In fact, she used to do a bit about self hatred versus hating Asians, which would suggest she’s aware of it.

    She is attractive, and she is fairly young/new in stand-up comedy circles. I think you can tell that she doesn’t have the chops to manage the audience to go along with her ride. I’ve seen her succeed some nights in coming across as funny, and I’ve seen her fail other nights.

    What I don’t know is whether she cares.

    Why should she? She’s succeeding on being attractive, provocative and young. Many performers are just fine with that.

    Also in full disclosure, though, my aforementioned boyfriend is Asian. He seems to think she’s batshit crazy on and off stage.

  36. Brigitte wrote:

    Racial humor works when it’s smart and funny. Watching a short clip of her on Last Comic Standing, I don’t think she either of those things but she is pretty, which counts for a lot in entertainment industry.

  37. Anthony DeVito wrote:

    @ dee-rob:
    I didn’t mean to imply that Esther hates herself, I just meant that when it comes to comedians, that trait is fairly common and it’s not really news. Maybe we don’t hate ourselves any more or any less than anyone else, but there’s something in our brains that forces us to need to make other people laugh. Not want. Need. And it’s more than just wanting to get our own take on things across. When you think of how unnatural it is to get on a stage and try to make strangers laugh, you have to admit there’s gotta be something else at work there. Most people would faint; comedians just want more.

    And writing material about ethnic stereotyping does come from anger; otherwise why do it? Because you’re happy about how people perceive and treat you? Nope. It’s because you’re trying to change minds and educate through laughter. You’re pissed off and comedy is your weapon.

    All of that said, I wish Esther the best of luck. To get on national TV at this point in her young career is pretty damn impressive.

  38. jmn wrote:

    Makes you pine for the good ol’ days of Dat Phan …

    Wendi, I think this is the documentary you are talking about: Race & Humor
    pt 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=OCoEjtnihOY
    pt 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NUrNuAM5W08
    pt 3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ds4W8f8Sk44
    pt 4: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sYH2jxoul-U

    This is a great documentary.

  39. kd wrote:

    I actually thought the Nigerian Babies joke was mad funny!!!

  40. Claudia wrote:

    Ugh. I don’t know whether to be offended or bored. I’m leaning more towards the latter.

  41. Sewere wrote:

    And no one has commented on Esther Ku’s “Nigerian Babies” joke. Did you think her explanation was adequate?

    Following her line of thinking: Well that’s because they know there’s a risk of us going to jail for sending bank scam emails…….

    ::sound of crickets::

    Soooo did you hear the one about the priest the goat and the ::big hook yanks him off stage::

  42. Crogirl wrote:

    She was alright. I chuckled, but I wouldn’t care if I never saw her again. The self-depricating thing can be funny in small pockets, but I’m not a fan of it being a comedian’s entire platform (please someone make Lisa Lampanelli throw in the towel!). And speaking of Lisa Lampanelli, I dated someone once who asked me to watch her stand-up on video with him. About 1/2 way through the video, after witnessing him laugh hysterically at all her jokes, I was so uncomfortable being with him, and wondering all the while if his belly-laughs were because he actually agreed with what she was saying.

    I think making fun of a stereotype, calling out the ridulousness of racists and their ideals, can be funny if done right. But if you have nothing to contribute except for reciting stereotypes that we are all already keenly aware of, it’s just poor taste in my book.

  43. Largo wrote:

    Actually, She’s mistaken. Nigerian Americans are some of the most educated people in the US, even more so than Asian Americans.

  44. Angel H. wrote:

    My dad and I caught her on “Last Comic Standing”. When she made it to the next round, we figured they just didn’t air the funny parts.

  45. Angel H. wrote:

    Slightly off-topic, but did anyone happen to catch “History of the Joke” on the History Channel?

  46. Jeff Lew wrote:

    I think you guys are giving Esther Ku too much credit if you think her routine is supposed to be “ironic” or satirical. I watched her cringe-inducing routine on Last Comic Standing and it was obvious to me that she is re-inforcing bad stereotypes and encouraging white people to laugh AT Asians. I don’t think her personality is a “character”, because there is no subtlety or insight in her routine that would lead one to this conclusion. Face it, she is just a self-hating hack.

    Her act was hackneyed, self-hating, and just not funny. I agree with altasien that she has a “I want white people to like me sooo bad” vibe. Her whole act seems to say “It’s okay to disrespect Asians - I do it, and so can you!”

    This woman makes Dat Phan look like Sun Yat Sen. “Me so funny” indeed!

  47. Brethren Priestess wrote:

    Part of Ku’s success may in fact be the result of racism, namely imperialist-patriarchal sexual exoticizing, as evidenced by the title given to this very video clip on youtube: “Hot asian chick does stand-up.” Is that the draw for some people: getting to watch a “hot asian chick” exploit and perhaps justify their racist stereotypes? How much could she be subverting dominant racial paradigms when her fans are drawn to her videos through such demeaning advertisements?

    The description of the video is just as bad as the title: “Just what the title says. From Last Comic Standing.” It doesn’t give her name or any background on her as a person; she’s just Asian and female and a comedian.

    Of course, it wasn’t Ku herself who posted the video and gave it such a gross title, but it is an example of how her work is being interpreted and used.

  48. G.K. wrote:

    To Btwnm27

    Being attractive has absolutely nothing to do with how funny you are —that’s pretty sexist,when you think about it—you either have the talent and skills to make people laugh,and a genuine sense of humor or you don’t. I don’t see male comedians constantly getting harped on about their looks, no matter how unattractive they are. I mean, what are you saying–that all comediennes are just automatically unattractive? That’s just so ridiculous—where’s the proof of this?

    I’ve never heard of this Esther Ku, but since she’s a relative newcomer to the comic scene, only time and practice will help to sharpen her skills. Hopefully later on down the line, she’ll get confident enough to tell better,more observant jokes and develop a tougher edge in her material.

    To Bang Gully:

    Societal restraints ( what specific ones are you talking about,BTW?) definitely didn’t keep any of these ladies from being comedians, despite some of the dificulties a few of them faced: Whoopi Goldburg, Monique, Joy Behar, Joan Rivers, Kathy Griffin, Phyllis Diller, Judy Tenuta,Margaret Cho, Wanda Sykes, and a whole batch of others I can’t think of. There’s also a British Muslim female comedian who’s around for a couple of years–I think her last name is Mirza, can’t remember her first name—who, despite her religion and culture telling her that Muslim women weren’t supposed to be on stage, went on ahead and had fun doing it anyway, even after she got threats from other Muslims who didn’t like her telling jokes about Islam. Me,personally, I prefer comediennes who bring a tough attitude to the stage, and who just say whatever the hell they feel like saying. Check out THE QUEENS OF COMEDY for a good example of what I mean.

    About Lisa Lampanelli—me and my S.O. saw her one night on the Leno show, and frankly, we didn’t like ANY of her jokes–in fact, we both found them very racist and downright offensive—I didn’t like her at all. To me, all she was doing was reiterating the same old lame racist jokes about black men/Jewish folks that have been around for years—there wasn’t anything new about what she was saying–same goes for Sarah Silverman, who I don’t think is all that,either,despite the mad hype about her.

  49. chi wrote:

    I’m yet to watch her clip, but she doesn’t sound seem very funny.

    As a Nigerian, I was taken aback by her comment. If anything, Nigerians would be worth more (I agree with Largo here). In fact, I recently heard that Nigerians are the most educated people in the US and a Google search brought me to this article —

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5791096.html

    Ms. Ku needs to get familiar!

    Love this blog by the way <3

  50. Kelvin wrote:

    @Angel H
    “Slightly off-topic, but did anyone happen to catch “History of the Joke” on the History Channel?”

    I sure did.

  51. squidfly wrote:

    lowercase tasha wrote:Oh pah-leeze. Do not blame Ku’s lack of wit and tact, when bashing Asian men, on discrimination she might face because she’s an attractive, Asian female. That whole section of her routine sucked. Like the one line, “Who doesn’t have Asian fetish” then the one guy answers, and she’s all, “What, are you gay?”

    …and you don’t get that?!!
    OK. Whatever.

  52. A. wrote:

    Of course people are going to miss the point - as beautifully evidenced in these comments, especially when they hold fast to some of their Asian fetish ideas that it would be unfair and wrong and erroneous to comment on Asian women just because some of them (in this case, Miss Ku) are attractive.

    Sarah Silverman is a beautiful woman too. Don’t obfuscate from the point that both Silverman and Ku have their career based on non-ironic and generally unfunny stereotyping just to cater to the masses who find crap like that funny.

    If you want a comedian that can be pretty hilarious (at least I personally have found her to be - a lot of other people find her offensive), it would be Lisa Lampanelli.

  53. Sulyp wrote:

    @ “A.”

    I think you’ve assumed a couple things that may not hold true for everybody:

    1. That we’ve “missed the point”. Who’s point is the right one anyway? Please enlighten us.

    2. That we find either Ms. Yu or Ms. Silverman attractive. I have my own differing opinion on that, but as that does not enhance the discussion here, I chose not to include it.

    About the Nigerian babies comment, she is obviously misinformed (which is not a surprise given the rest of her horrible routine), as mentioned by others, Nigerians are some of the most educated, industrious people we have in this country, moreso than the average random Asian I’ve encountered, anyway.

  54. deb wrote:

    Slightly off-topic, but did anyone happen to catch “History of the Joke” on the History Channel?

    No, but I did see “Race is the Place.”

    Not all of the performers were comedians, but I thought they handled race and humor very well. The performances never seemed offensive, nor did I feel that they were being self-deprecating. It was satire. I especially liked Kate Riggs’ performanced called “Rice Rice Baby”. I also liked “spoken word artist” Beau Sia’s “Open Letter to the Entertainment Industry”. But, I couldn’t find it on youtube. :( He does discuss race in this one, though.

  55. A Nony Mouse wrote:

    I’m not a comedian, but I do have connections to the NYC comedy scene and I’ve seen Esther Ku a couple of times. She didn’t do any of the jokes mentioned in the article, but her whole schtick was basically the whole “I’ve got wacky Korean parents!” thing that Margaret Cho’s done a million times better. She didn’t strike me as very seasoned compared to her peers on the scene, so I was taken aback when I found out she was going to be on Last Comic Standing. I didn’t think she had material other than talking about her wacky! Korean! Parents!

    I’ll be seeing her at a showcase on Friday, so I’ll be curious to see what material she brings this time.

  56. techtalk38 wrote:

    Racial commentary is a fine line, but the bottom line is comedians like Chris Rock or Dave Chapelle never gave me a vibe of malicious intent or outright bigotry. Carlos Mencia is a perfect example to me. I heard a routine where he says nigger about 10-15 times, and “it’s just jokes”. I never heard Chris or Dave or just about any black comedian up on stage saying spic 20 times. Sarah Silverman is from a lily white neighborhood in Boston. NOT THE BEST PERSON TO DO RACIAL SATIRE. Esther and Sarah ,to me, are 2 people using their bigotry on stage thinking they will appeal to audiences outside of the people they offend.

  57. Mieko wrote:

    Jeff Lew wrote:

    I think you guys are giving Esther Ku too much credit if you think her routine is supposed to be “ironic” or satirical. I watched her cringe-inducing routine on Last Comic Standing and it was obvious to me that she is re-inforcing bad stereotypes and encouraging white people to laugh AT Asians.

    what about her joke about the guy in the front row being surprised to see an asian girl who wasn’t punching in his credit card number? she def. picked on that white-looking guy for that. I think that joke was more on fetishists than being meant for people to just laugh AT asians. and i def. think the ‘miso funny’ line was funny, because it’s so ridiculous to begin with, i dont think anyone could use it without being ironic or satirical. i think she is making a commentary and not just doing stereotypes for people to laugh at asians

  58. Broderick Chow wrote:

    I think a lot of comments on this board seem to just go back and forth on whether or not Ku’s routine is ironic, missing the point that it can be taken either way… But weirdly, a lot of comments seem to talk about “the masses” as if there’s this huge racist mob baying at the doors and Ku’s just throwing scraps to feed them. I personally have a bit more faith in the diversity of the masses.

    Secondly, there’s a lot of judgment on a new comedian based on 5 minutes of her stand-up, and that’s just ridiculous. When she does an hour, or even 20 minutes in a big club or on TV… but finding your voice as a comic is a LONG and difficult process, and maybe she’ll progress… Remember Margaret Cho pre-I’m the One That I Want? It wasn’t great. Cho’s been doing stand-up for like, 20 years… How long has Esther Ku been doing it?

  59. Ike wrote:

    The point we are all missing is that, had she been your average, non-racist, mediocre comedian, Ku would have been ignored. There are a lot of comedians out there.

    We’re publicizing her. And because she is what mainstream American media would consider pretty, prepare to see her in flop comedies, nudie mags, and reality TV shows in the near future.

  60. Tim Footman wrote:

    “When they heard the joke, they demanded the producer stop the show.”

    I trust the producer told them to swivel.

  61. lowercase tasha wrote:

    @squidfly

    no, you’re under the impression that I didn’t understand the joke. I, as well as the other random people that watched the clip, understood what Ku was attempting with the Asian men jokes, but it not only fell flat, it came across as offensive. It wasn’t clever or witty or wry or any of that. It was just lame. Asian men/black women aren’t off limits in comedy. Chris Rock, Paul Mooney, Eddie Murphy etc. have all done jokes at black women’s expense at some point or another, and a lot of the time, guess what? I laughed. I could sit here right now and do dead beat dad/prison jokes about black men, and depending upon the delivery and context, it could very well be funny, but blaming the mediocrity of the “Asian men” segment in Ku’s routine on gendered racism is really reaching to me. If you’re going to play with stereotype, you should do something creative with it, like Ku did in the beginning of the routine with “all Asians look alike” stereotype, not get up on stage and repeat stereotypes verbatim and expect props. I mean, she’s Asian. I expect better (HA!)

  62. Bang Gully wrote:

    @GK

    Whoah. My comment was supposed to imply that girls aren’t encouraged to be funny to get ahead socially. Have you noticed that most of the female comedians you mentioned are not attractive? Also, to most dudes at least, they are not funny either. And guys range from everything from slapstick humour to literate sarcasm so telling us their humour is too smart for most guys isn’t going to cut it.

    Guys have to develop certain traits over time to get girls and get ahead in social circles that women don’t have to. We have to have a personality even if we’re good looking. Whereas a girl doesn’t have to because guys just care if shes “hot” or not. Girls care about romance, looks, MONEY, and game that the guy spits. By the way, I’m not complaining about this, it is what it is. I think for a lot of women over the long term it’s actually detrimental because they don’t develop personalities, only ways to stay good looking.

    As far as the Muslim comic, I am Muslim and Islam says nothing about stand up comedy or women going on stage. Whether certain Muslims gave her “death threats” (I’ve read about her and have never heard this by the way) because she was on stage as opposed to her jokes making fun of Muslims are 2 different issues. Just to make it clear.

  63. lowercase tasha wrote:

    @Bang Gully

    You sound like a Chris Hitchens article

    http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/01/hitchens200701

  64. jvansteppes wrote:

    I would never compare Ku or Sarah Silverman to Dave Chappelle, for me, the difference is that he has the ability to make white people uncomfortable on a level neither of them would dare to rise to. I do think Chappelle has been misread but its harder because of things like his whiteface guy etc. [And sometimes his gender issues/homophobia suck but that’s another discussion].
    Ku and Silverman on the other hand are telling jokes that white people want to hear so they can feel justified in, for example, not being able to tell Asians apart. White people love this shit just like conservative men love Ann Coulter for being a misogynist.
    I was hoping the backlash against political correctness would focus on the fact that it doesn’t change material power relations but I guess racists are bound to dominate that discussion…

  65. Carrie wrote:

    Here’s who I actually have a problem with: the tv executives who only allow people doing material that relies on racism and sexism on tv.

  66. A. wrote:

    “1. That we’ve “missed the point”. Who’s point is the right one anyway? Please enlighten us.”

    The right point was not what I was getting at, moreso than actually getting the point of this article. The point of this article would be the un-ironic stereotyping that Miss Ku does in her routines and WHY it’s not funny. I actually wasn’t referring to you in my statement.

    “2. That we find either Ms. Yu or Ms. Silverman attractive. I have my own differing opinion on that, but as that does not enhance the discussion here, I chose not to include it.”

    Again, referring to several of the commenters above. They’re asking people to concentrate more ON the fact that “She’s an attractive Asian” rather than the fact that her routine is horribly racist.

    Broderick -
    “But weirdly, a lot of comments seem to talk about “the masses” as if there’s this huge racist mob baying at the doors and Ku’s just throwing scraps to feed them. I personally have a bit more faith in the diversity of the masses.”

    And you’re speaking to some people who really don’t. Especially not when our media continues to regress and play on racial stereotypes, and anymore, it’s not even satirical.

  67. G.K. wrote:

    To Bang Gully:

    Um—that is so NOT true abut women not having to do anything except look “hot” us women DO have to develope personalities. I don’t know what kind of women you know, but where I’m from, a woman’s got to have more going on than just her looks—she’s got to develop her brains,personality, everything about herself. And again, I don’t know why you keep putting emphasis on attractiveness—it dosen’t matter how a attractive a woman or man is, if you aren’t funny, you aren’t funny,period. It has nothing to do with your gender. I’ve seen a lot of male comedians that frankly couldn’t have made a dead man laugh, so your goign on and on about someone attractiveness is irrelevant is this case.

  68. Wake up wrote:

    Mod Note:
    I checked out your site after hearing about it on another blog. The content looks solid. So, why would you come on to this blog spouting gendered slurs and attacking someone’s physical appearance? If you have problems with Esther Ku’s routine, fine. But find a better way to express your thoughts. - LDP

  69. Eric wrote:

    The title of this post is apt. Although I can see where there is some room for interpretation, she does strike me as another Sarah Silverman–another vehicle for audiences to downplay their own racist views as mere humor. That said, I did detect some bitter snark aimed at the character she was playing. I did crack a smile here and there, especially at the immigration bit–”…because I’m already here!”

    If she can take the next step and successfully subvert the views she’s presenting, that would be great. It doesn’t seem like she has the chops to do it, at least yet. Silverman possibly does, but for whatever reason (marketability?) hasn’t, imho. Ku, given her looks, could probably (I apologize for using this term here because it might be loaded in this context) sell out similarly.

  70. Bohemian Writer wrote:

    God, I hate these types of comedians.

  71. Nina wrote:

    I thought the Nigerian joke was a wry commentary on the average white americans perception of all Asians as stellar students who grow up to become wellpaid white collar workers and how consequently Asian orphans are seen as a commodity.

  72. asian guy #1 wrote:

    The sad thing about her jokes is that she doesn’t have to be Asian to do them.

    With racial humor, it is usually offlimits to certain group of people. With Asians, put a white guy on there, and you would still get laugh. So her jokes is not racially exclusive.

    I have seen Whites making fun of Asian guys and Asian people with the same stereotype without any backlash.

    Her joke is not a satire on racial stereotype, but an affirmation of those stereotypes. Asian people just don’t have the social capital to pull these jokes off. They are not funny at all. Her jokes about Asian guys are repeated time after time in the white man’s circle and Asian girl’s circle.

    If anything, her routine is a sad commentary on the state of Asian men in America. We are at the bottom of the social hierarchy.

    Real Asian comedy is Russell Peters, Henry Cho, KT Tatara. Dat Phan and Bobby Lee sucks.

  73. Torontonian wrote:

    I like Sarah Silverman, but I really, really, really dislike Esther Ku. She’s just reinforcing racist stereotypes and ignorance in general.

    As somebody already mentioned, Nigerian Americans are more educated than Asian Americans.

    Furthermore, being Asian does not get you into college; in fact, it hurts you from getting into college in the United States. If you apply to an Ivy League college, you lose 50 SAT points for being Asian, in practise.

    Based on the data used by the Princeton study, Kidder argues that negative action [on Asians] is the equivalent of losing 50 points on the SAT. […] [Asian Americans’] obstacle, he says, isn’t affirmative action, but the discrimination Asian Americans experience by being held to higher standards than anyone else. He says that the differential standards appear to be growing and are similar in some ways to the way some Ivy League institutions limited Jewish enrollments in the first half of the 20th century.

    Then again, it’s possible that Esther Ku’s statements about Nigerian Americans and being Asian helping you get into college are ironic, because obscure statistics about Nigerian American educational levels and academic studies about Asian American admissions to Ivy League universities are now common knowledge. (This, by the way, is sarcasm.)

  74. anon. wrote:

    I don’t agree with using racial remarks as being a form of humor. Insulting really. I have these brown kids in my class who constantly mimic the Asian accent, or FOB accent whatever you want to call it. And it really upsets me just because it reminds me of my parents and what honest people they are. And I love them, and I personally feel like they are making fun of the Asian races. I would still be offended even if they were being disrespectful to other races. As of right now, I do promise myself that I will say something before school ends. And give them a piece of my mind.

    I’m only 15 by the way, so hopefully I don’t sound like a bafoon. :)

  75. Ada wrote:

    Ku’s not big on research is she? Nigerians are known as a “model minority” similar to Asians within a minority. They have similar economic and college admittance numbers.

  76. Alex wrote:

    esther ku is the world’s most ridiculously NOT funny person. horrible. absolutely horrible. about as equally unfunny as sarah silverman.

  77. matt wrote:

    Wow. She hit all the points. Fortune cookie, asian men, dry cleaning, dogs, and the one I thought she would miss. Mash! Great job Esther! Quite the pioneer.

  78. Rob wrote:

    I think she is not funny at all. All she is doing is reinforcing stereotypes. If there are actually some positive images of Asian men and women in the media, then people might be less sensitive to this crap. Since there are none, all she is doing is promoting more racism and telling all the racists “yes Mr. white man you are right.” White people can afford to make fun of themselves because they actually have POSITIVE images in the media all the time. For Asians, it is usually negative and her lame jokes just reinforce more stereotypes. Get off the stage stupid clueless woman.

  79. kiowa wrote:

    It’s important to remember that other comedians who use racial satire or who tell jokes and use stereotpyes often balance out their act. They tell other jokes to let the audience see that what they are saying isn’t true , and will support it with an accompanying joke that counters the stereotype. Esther Ku bombarded the audience with stereoypes, and some jokes poking fun at non Asians. The disparity in balancing the act was rather evident. There were hardly any efforts to repudiate the stereotypes. The jokes about Asian men for example were nothing more than stereotypes without any effort to elude to the audience that most Asian men did not fit this category. This has to be pointed out because in the larger macro mainstream environment–which is where the audience goes back to after the act–Asians and in the media,Asian men, are not fully portrayed in an accurate and positive manner that reflects reality.

  80. C. Mathieson wrote:

    I agree with Matt:
    “Wow. She hit all the points. Fortune cookie, asian men, dry cleaning, dogs, and the one I thought she would miss. Mash! Great job Esther! Quite the pioneer.”

    The MASH joke was done first by Margaret Cho, who I don’t pay attention to anymore since her ego got in the way of her actually being funny.

    As for Ku, she needs to disappear from the comedy circuit. On LCS, she plays up this little Asian schoolgirl persona, pigtails and all, and it is ridiculous. It serves to further push the stereotypes that she jokes about, which are not funny because they have all been said before, better, by more competant comedians who can milk the ironies of it all. Her humour is completely lost on me because her stage personality grates on me, and because she is pathetically unoriginal. Why would someone want to play into stereotypes about their culture so completely?

  81. Eric L Young wrote:

    No offense, but I think Esther Ku only made it into the top 12 because she is beautiful. I suspect the Producers pushed her into the top 12 to help their ratings.

    But she does not have the material to survive on that show. If you look at all of her performances performances on that show–you will notice that she repeated alot of material. No you know, that they would have cut that show to spread her material out. The fact that–after editing–they still had to leave repeated jokes in just goes to show you.

    I like Last Comic Standing, and I have noticed over the years that the comics who survive the longest have at least 45 minutes of solid material. From my opinion–I suspect Esther barely has a solid 20 minutes of material to this day.

    And finally, if you watch her challenge set carefully, you can see that she may have actually bombed during that set. I think they painstakingly edited it so that she appeared to do OK.

    She will either have to overhaul her act–or she will disappear into the either of ex-standup comic acts. (Of which–by the way–I am one.)

  82. Pete wrote:

    ” I despise self-deprecation in all it’s forms…”

    This pretty much sums it up–the Ku hate is based in racism, particularly in internalized racism among asians, for whom her comedy strikes a painful nerve. (I know, cause I feel it.)

    Ku simultaneously plays Asian and IS Asian, complete with the self-deprecation (intentionally and ironically exaggerated in her performance) that is a real part of who many of us are. She’s paying the price for not having the right bad-ass wisecracking non-asian attitude while she mocks stereotypes, for not pretending to not be asian while heroically defending them with her prejudice exposing wit. See exhibit Cho.

    We hate her for not protecting us against stereotypes by pretending they have no connection to reality and thus we are free to hate their unreal embodiments.

  83. Centient wrote:

    From what little I’ve seen of Ku, LCS only, I have to give her the benefit of the doubt that she’s aware enough of the sort of comedy she’s plumbing. The idea that she’s drawing from a well of self-loathing or is selling out to white audiences to further her career seems a little far fetched.

    I believe she’s understand’s enough to play with the stereotypes. However being aware is only one component of humor. I recognized what she was doing up there, and I also understood that it wasn’t working for me. Some of it was clever, and well delivered. Much of it fell flat, and left her understandably exposed to the sort of charges I’m seeing here and on various message boards.

    As a side note, I really wish more people would read Uncle Tom’s Cabin. I think we’d see a dramatic decline in the perjorative use of the term “Uncle Tom”.

  84. Tony wrote:

    @Pete: Don’t pretend to be Asian just so you can justify her inherent racism and spout off your argument that Asians are just oversensitive, insecure people who don’t want to hear “the harsh truth” about themselves.

    We hate her for one simple reason: She’s representative of the typical self-hating Asian-American with an inferiority complex, trying desperately to shed her “shameful, humilating, disrespected, slant-eyed-minority heritage” and assimilate into the majority white-American crowd at every step in life. A complex/issue that many of us, I included, have admittedly had to deal with on a personal basis, to varying degrees. There’s nothing new or fresh, or penetrating, to her racial take; she’s just making a fool of herself on the national stage by trying to cash in on her racist-but-popular views.

  85. Emily wrote:

    Calling esther ku an asian Sarah Silverman is an insult to Ms. Silverman. ku takes the alleged humour way too far and thrives on perpetuating Asian stereotypes. There’s a fine line with juggling these sensitive topics and she shows absolutely no skill whatsoever.

  86. Curtis wrote:

    I am really sad to see this young lady take such a low road in her comedy. I would love to see more comics that move beyond using the same old stereotypes jokes. As a 47 year old black man, I am sad to see this done by black comics. Bill Cosby, when he was at his peak, was able to make us all laugh at life. I wish that the new crop of comics would put a little more energy in being creative. Just because you can make you drunk or high friends laugh, does not make you a comic.

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