What Color is Your Orgasm? Sex-Positive Advice in Black and White

by Guest Contributor AJ Plaid, also known as The Cruel Secretary

    Latoya’s Note: After the jump, AJ (The Cruel Secretary) takes us on an interesting and illuminating journey through the world of sex-positive advice. However, this post includes explicit language and graphic depictions of sexual acts. Reader discretion is advised.


To all the women—young, middle-aged, and elderly—who still believe that we were placed on this earth to “service” men. May this book liberate your pussies, free your minds from the chain of sexual oppression, and make you realize that you are entitled to fuck your way.

This book is about fucking. This book is about love. This is a book about what love has to do with fucking and fucking has to do with love…I have never been one to sugarcoat anything, so why start now? Dear G-Spot is an in-your-face, straight up with no chaser book about fucking. How to fuck, how not to fuck, and knowing whether or not you have any business fucking in the first place. While there have been countless books written about sex, in the tradition of my short story collections, I seriously doubt you will ever red another one quite like this bitch here. I am “coming hard” so you can “cum hard” later. Some of the parts of this book are very graphic, and they were meant to be.”

~~Zane, from the dedication and introduction to her book, Dear G-Spot

Usually, I don’t read Zane, an Essence best-selling African American erotica writer, because I find her literary style clichéd. However, when I read this, I thought to myself, She did it! This Black woman wrote a raunchy-fun sex manual for us. Thank Sappho and the Song of Solomon lovers! But why isn’t her sex-advice column in Essence or Jet or Vibe—or an “alternative media” like the Village Voice or Nerve.com? And, if she’s gonna get down like that, then where are the pictures?

If I had to place Zane in context, she’s belongs to the Sex-Positive Advice Club. A brief definition the sex-positivism, from Wikipedia:

The sex-positive movement does not in general make moral or ethical distinctions between heterosexual or homosexual sex, or indeed masturbation for people who are otherwise celibate, regarding these choices as matters of personal preference. Some sex-positive positions include acceptance of BDSM, asexuality, polyamory, transsexuality, transgenderism, and other forms of gender transgression in general.

Most elements of the sex-positive movement advocate comprehensive and accurate sex education as part of its campaign.

I’d also put Zane in the tradition of sex-positive feminists. A brief history of that movement, again from Wikipedia:

Sex-positive feminism, sometimes known as pro-sex feminism, sex-radical feminism, or sexually liberal feminism, is a movement that was formed in the early 1980s. Some became involved in the sex-positive feminist movement in response to efforts by anti-pornography feminists, such as Catharine MacKinnon, Andrea Dworkin, Robin Morgan and Dorchen Leidholdt, to put pornography at the center of a feminist explanation of women’s oppression (McElroy, 1995). This period of intense debate and acrimony between sex-positive and anti-pornography feminists during the early 1980s is often referred to as the “Feminist Sex Wars”. Other, less academic, sex-positive feminists became involved not in opposition to other feminists, but in direct response to what they saw as patriarchal control of sexuality. Authors who have advocated sex-positive feminism include Ellen Willis, Susie Bright, Patrick Califia, Gayle Rubin, Avedon Carol, Tristan Taormino and Betty Dodson.

In this zeitgeist, authors wrote books and columns: Susie Bright, Tristan Taormino, and Patrick Califia helped usher in a new era of erotic literature aimed at all genders as well as proclivities. Entrepreneurs opened women-friendly sex stores, like Good Vibrations and Toys in Babeland (changed later to Babeland), complete with classes about different sexual practices. Filmmakers like Candida Royalle created women-centered porn.

One sex-positive educator, Charlie Glickman, linked the movement to struggles to end other forms of bigotry:

In many ways, learning to break sex-negativity down is linked to working to end other prejudices. Sex-negativity is used to enforce sexism every time a woman is insulted by being called a slut. The myth that people of African descent are hypersexual and are therefore less developed than those of European descent clearly depends on the idea that sex is bad. Every time we’re shocked that our elders are sexual beings, sex-negativity reinforces ageism and it’s certainly one of the roots of homophobia, which is based on some peoples’ sexuality not being within the allowed norms. While these examples are certainly over-simplified, it’s easy to see that sex-negativity is braided into all of our prejudices and conversely, our other prejudices inform and help define our sex-negativity, so it’s not surprising that working towards ending one requires working towards ending the others. Perhaps it’s more accurate to say that not working towards ending all of them limits how far we can work towards ending any of them.

~~”The Language of Sex Positivity,” The Electronic Journal of Human Sexuality, 7/6/2000

In the spirit of inclusion and identity–and, for publishing houses, the aura of diversity and, by extension, profit–authors of color, like Jewelle Gomez, Chrystos, Samuel Delaney, and David Mura, wrote erotica and joined in erotic-lit anthologies as well.

A wide choice of erotica exists for almost every race/ethnicity (the classics On a Bed of Rice, Under the Pomegranate Tree: the Best New Latino Erotica, Caliente: The Best Erotic Writing in Latin American Fiction, and Erotique Noir/Black Erotica come to mind) and sexual orientation, gender, and proclivity. Norma Alarcon, Ana Castillo, and Cherrie Moraga edited The Sexuality of Latinas. Good Vibrations’ film company, Sexpositive Productions, released Please Don’t Stop: Lesbian Tips for Givin’ & Gettin’ It with cast of women of color.

Off the top of my head, I know of two African American women who are running sex-toy businesses and received regional and national press: Tami Brooks, owner of Huneypot Parties, and well, Zane.

When it comes to publishing advice for the sexually curious, however, for every Tristan Taormino and Dan Savage and ex-Nerve.com advice writers Em and Lo, there’s….

Okay, well, beyond Zane, there’s Dr. Hilda Hutcherson, a gynocologist and columnist for Essence and Glamour, who wrote Pleasure: A Woman’s Guide to Getting the Sex You Want, Need, and Deserve. And then there’s….

Exactly.

Why aren’t there more sex-positive sex advice columnists of color on the wider-syndicated and/or book-deal getting scale of Taormino, Savage, and Em and Lo?

I’m not just talking about the dime-a-dozen, dating-and-relationship advice columnists, the ones who tell a female reader to buy flowers or get some of the above-mentioned erotica for that Special Someone she’s interested in order to keep his attention. With few exceptions –and depending on the publication — dating-and-relationship advice is very hetero-centric and geared at women. I am looking for a columnist who provides all that, but one who also, say, gives advice on safer-sex practices for a stiletto-heel fetishist like Taormino. Or like Savage, who advised a newbie to anal sex struggling with how to tell her boyfriend she finds the act painful even though lubrication is used and he “takes his time” with her, to give the man a “consciousness-raising session that involves” her “doing the boyfriend’s ass with a dildo that’s roughly the same size as his dick.”

My first answer I have received in response to my questions is that the advice is applicable to everyone because we’re all sexual beings and, at some point, someone’s going to cover the question I’ve been dying to ask—or introduce me to a practice or another nugget of sexual information–in one of the major columns. The columnist’s race shouldn’t matter, right?

I saw that answer as naively colorblind.

The reality is—as it has been played out in other controversies around race and publishing, especially in feminist blogosphere lately—the overwhelming number of these sexperts are white. Taormino—who has collaborated with authors of color for her erotica anthologies—has her own film production company whose DVDs are a staple in women-friendly , women-owned sex shops. Savage is a regular correspondent on Real Time with Bill Maher. Zane—whose bluntly graphic writing style matches Savage and Taormino–established herself as an erotic fiction writer about a decade before releasing Dear G-Spot. According to the Wikipedia entry about her, a casting call went out in 2007 for a series based on her writings, but there’s no premiere date.

So, that reality brings up the interrelated issues of voice and authority and the sexual underpinnings of racism in this society: who is considered an expert and why, who awarded the microphone and the camera’s gaze and why, who listens and why, and which race is considered the yardstick and the bottom-line of sexual attractiveness and normalcy and why.

And I’m not the only person thinking this way.

One of the things that really irks me about sex-bloggers is that they really aren’t dealing with race enough. It’s pretty much a bunch of white people, or minorities who don’t talk about being minorities…I’d forgotten the world wasn’t a bunch of white people fucking!

~~C.S. Lewiston, commenting on Susie Bright’s blog, October 4, 2007

I also thought this answer, though true, wasn’t fully fleshed out. I mean, it’s not all about white folks’ racism and white-skin advantage. As Latoya posted while back, women of color in the US have had a long and undocumented history of activism in the reproductive justice movement. As quoted from Kimala Price:

Drawing from human rights and social justice principles, women of color activists have re-defined “reproductive rights” into what they now call “reproductive justice.” Reproductive justice is not just about the individualistic right to have an abortion (i.e., the right not to have children) but to include the right to have children and to raise them in healthy and stable families. Accordingly, these activists have broadened reproductive rights and freedom beyond abortion rights, the rights to privacy and “choice” which are normally associated with the movement. In sum, reproductive justice encompasses many other issues such as economic justice, immigration rights, housing rights, and access to health care.

My reaction to that quote is “isn’t giving sex-positive advice part of that platform, too?” To me, giving non-judgmental, supportive counsel to newspaper-reading and ‘Net-surfing audiences of color (and, yeah, raunchy—for the sake of relating to people and giving information in a plain-spoken way) about, say, anal sex or sex toys is just as much about access to healthcare as being financially and physically able to get to a women’s clinic. That is a point of activism, too. (One sex activist , Dr. Carla Stokes, does exactly this. Check out her website and her Alternet interview.)

I posed my question about sex-positive sex advice to my staunchly Baptist, up-from-segregated-Mississippi, baby-boomer mom. I told her about writing this post, and we hashed out four major reasons why, at least, some African Americans in particular might shy away from the position—and I do mean “hash” because we went ‘round and ‘round about stereotypes about white women’s promiscuity, The Post-Bellum Black Community’s monolithic dignity, the Post-Desegregation Black Generations’ monolithic waywardness from that dignity. The reasons:

1) Historical sexual exploitation and its legacy, such as many white slavemasters and overseers raping enslaved African and African-American women. My mom recalled stories of white men in the Jim Crow South “who walked into the homes of Black men and had sex with whichever woman in the home he wanted, and the man could do nothing about it or else he would be killed.” These sexual situations bolstered and justified–and were justified by:

2) Sexualized racial stereotypes and African Americans’ sexual conservatism stemming from values interpreted from religious texts as well as perceived racial duty to “uplift the race.” Many an African American mother’s admonition to their daughters to not be a “fast” girl, “keep your panties up,” “keep your business out of the streets,” and certainly “don’t sleep with a white man” served as an familial check against personifying the hypersexual, promiscuous Black woman stereotype. “Black people during my time became buttoned up, almost sexless when we interacted with the larger world,” Mom said.

3) The perception that plain-spoken (and even graphic) sexual advice, especially the “do-you-and-y’all-with-full-consent-of your-partners-and-protection” ethos of sex-positive advice, is “white people’s domain,” which plays into the stereotype that white folks are sexually adventurous, indiscriminate, and indiscreet and, as mentioned before, the myth that the white body embodies sexual attractiveness and normalcy. An integral idea undergirding human beauty is the idea of, to be blunt, fuckability. This myth of the white body as the epitome and baseline of those concepts is partly perpetuated through the constant centering of white people in romantic leads in TV and films and featuring them on the cover of beauty and fashion magazines and mainstream porn. (And don’t forget the historical praising of white beauty in Western literature—and the exoticizing and denigrating of people of color.) Part of defining “Blackness” for some African Americans is the parameters of observed or perceived behaviors of white people and flipping the stereotype script. When it comes to sexual practices and proclivities, the flip to, say, a suggestion to try watching porn together or getting oral sex is “That’s what white folks do,” complete with a sneer and arm-crossing. So is displaying or discussing one’s sexuality in public spaces or for others’ consumption, why is why there was the uproar within Black communities over Ugly Betty’s Vanessa Williams photo spread in Penthouse, which cost her the Miss America crown a couple of decades ago.

4) The perception that “low-class” people use profanity and otherwise talk “nasty”—and such talk is usually considered scatological or sexual. The twin idea is such “nasty” talk is seen as “edgy” as well. This is probably why Dr. Hutcherson medical pedigree and writing style appeals to Essence readers, who tend to be mostly middle-class and middle-aged Black women who may feel more comfortable with this description of one of her fellatio tips: “Place a piece of ice in the hollow of your cheek. Now insert the penis into your otherwise warm mouth. The hot/cold sensation will be exciting.” Zane fans—and even Taormino and Savage fans–may snicker and say, “Fellatio? Penis? Are you for real?” (Unlike Zane, I do give Dr. Hutcherson some points for having illustrations, though they’re of straight couples.)

I wrote an email to my blogger friend Tami—she and I are Gen Xers–and asked for her thoughts about this. She responded (and I quote with her permission):

I think despite the blatant sexuality found in some hip hop culture, we black folks can be very Puritanical in our thinking about sexuality. We may be anesthesized to the cartoonish, shaking asses on BET, but it is hard to find frank discussion of sex between two consenting black adults, even within progressive black blogosphere. I find that generally among my people, hypersexual images = okay; healthy discussion = nasty.

Tami then made a great point about the polarized stereotypes upon which African American sexuality seems to occupy: the bestial and oversexualized (“the animalistic and sexually voracious black buck and the exoticized and wanton black woman) and the essentially sexless (“the desexualized mammy”). She added:

Then I think there is a strong layer of sexism thrown on top of that. I’m not sure we, as a people, are comfortable with strong, sexual women. Even the hypersexual images that we consume through hip hop are largely very woman submissive. I cannot even imagine a black woman in the role of sex advisor a la Dr. Ruth or that other woman that comes on Oxygen. Remember what happened when Dr. Jocelyn Elders talked about masturbation? Bill Clinton fired her.

Then Tami concluded her email: “I guess the short answer is that perhaps our sexual baggage makes us uncomfortable about really talking about sex in public.”

But I still feel like my answer is incomplete, so I open the floor to you. Do you know of any other people of color doing this kind of advice? Should there be race- and ethnic-specific sex-positive sex advice that discuss the weight of the history and stereotypes, the current and the ongoing stereotypes of a particular group that keep people from consenting to great sexual and sensual experiences, and the real statistics of sexually transmitted infections within communities of color, and all the while teaching people to say “yes” to sex in all of its multitudinous splendor? Where should these columns appear and why? What are other reasons people of color don’t become sex-advice columnists beyond personal choice or consideration?

Because it’s not like we’re not doin’ it.

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Comments

  1. atlasien wrote:

    Check out Atlanta local favorite Alexyss Tylor and Vagina Power!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKSVXp03Ytk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaoRUOYEEfs

    The older woman next to her is her mother.

    Personally, I find this is a very interesting topic. I used to describe myself as a sex-positive feminist. I’ve even worked in a strip club (as a cocktail waitress, not a stripper). However, I gave up on the “sex positive” descriptor mostly because I feel like at this point in time, it’s almost impossible to support uninhibited sexual expression without confirming damaging stereotypes about Asian female sexuality. Also, my experiences working in the strip club made me pretty cynical and it’s not something I would ever do again, or even recommend to many other women.

    I’m a big fan of Samuel Delany. He’s a pretty radical guy — hardcore feminist and hardcore gay BDSMer and supporter of anonymous public sex — but very thoughtful and intellectual in his views. I had the privilege of meeting him once.

    He is great at explaining tangled human responses to racism. When he won the Nebula award in 1966, as he walked to the stage to receive it, Isaac Asimov joked to him, “we only gave it to you because you’re black”. Delany used the anecdote to explain the reason that Asimov could say that, the reason why Asimov thought it wasn’t an insult, his relationship (mostly very supportive) with the predominantly white, progressive science fiction community, and race relations in the 1960s in general. His method of weaving together anecdotes and theory is something that has influenced me hugely in my own much more humble blogging.

  2. Sarah J wrote:

    This post is wonderful.

    I consider myself a sex-positive feminist (and have been working on a whole series of posts on sex) and this made me think a lot.

    I don’t read a whole lot of sex advice columns, other than other bloggers and Betty Dodson in BUST mag.

    I would guess that stereotypes play a huge role in why POC don’t feel comfortable in the sex advice role–even for white people it’s not seen as a legit business, and I worry at times about blogging about sex because I blog under my real name. Many sex bloggers or even sex writers don’t.

    It’s easy to confuse thoughtful, helpful, yet candid and fun writing about sex with this whole raunch culture thing that’s been criticized a lot lately. I prefer to think about it as commodified sexuality, but I’m just a pinko commie like that. Anyway, you write about sex and you’re a slut.
    Or you’re reinforcing other negative stereotypes. So if your ethnicity is already seen as somehow more sexual, you run the risk of exacerbating that stereotype.

    Plus, just like everything else out there, the porn and publishing businesses are run by the usual media power structure, which privileges male and white voices. Look at the women who are allowed to talk about sex–a lot of them are former sex workers, and they usually look a certain way, because to talk about sex you have to be someone that old white guys want to have sex with.

  3. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    Atlasien and Sarah J–
    I’m writing this in between cleaning my place, so forgive me if this comes off as disjointed or rushed.

    First of all, thanks so much for responding, especially your compliment, Sarah J. (And of course, a bouquet of thanks to Latoya and Carmen for their encouragement and support! *mwah*)

    To add some more context to the post: Taormino, Bright, Savage, Chrystos, Jewelle Gomez, Cherrie Moraga, and David Mura, along with Delaney, are all part of LGBTIQ communities.

    With that , I gotta mention this from Alexyss Tylor: “D*** will make you slap somebody.” LMAO

    Actually, atlasien, I saw Alexyss first on Feministing a while ago. I dig what she’s getting at, but there’s something weirdly essentialist and conservative about her ideas about men and women and straight sex. (Is it *all* about vagina-penis penetration? Are women *that* powerless before the penis?) Except for the language that I heard in the clips, Alexyss sounds an awful lot like my mom, who believes that women engaging in straight sex can’t exercise sexual agency or are always on the losing side of a sexual encounter because we’re “receptacles,” no matter if we’re initiators or even on top of the guy.

    But let me vibe on what both of you said about calling–and not calling ourselves–”sex-positive.” I think you both nailed it when you said, to use your words atlasien, that it’s “almost impossible to support uninhibited sexual expression without confirming damaging stereotypes” about the sexuality of PoCs and white women. But, by not supporting that uninhibited sexual expression in terms of openly talking about it–which may create a space to doing it, are we conceding to the power of the stereotypes–and our potential role in exacerbating it–at the expense of our own sexualities?

    OK, I gotta go back to cleaning, but I’ll definitely jump back into the dialogue. Please keep the comments, ahem, coming….

  4. Tami wrote:

    Awesome post, Cruel Secretary!

  5. atlasien wrote:

    I do see what you mean about Vagina Power, but I’d prefer to be more charitable. I think what she’s saying (more like performing than saying) about straight woman sexuality is that you can give yourself permission to be “addicted to the penis” without ultimately giving up sexual agency. It’s a way of escaping the double bind placed on women. Either we’re subjugated because we can’t live without the penis, or we’re subjugated because we reject the penis and therefore deny our sexuality. Men don’t have this double bind. They can say they’re “pussy-crazed” and not have that statement take away from their power.

    I think the path is clearer for LGBTIQ sex-positive activists in that their efforts are not going to be immediately co-opted and re-interpreted in a way they didn’t intend. Of course, it’s only easier for them because they pay a much greater price: the risk of being bashed, tortured and killed if they express themselves in unsafe spaces.

    When it comes to straight women of color, it’s really, really hard to say what the way forward is. It’s not like we can kick all the men out of the room temporarily and come to a decision.

  6. Emily Lauren wrote:

    Fabulous post.

    I read the whole damn thing, and wish it was longer.

  7. Persia wrote:

    What a great post. It’s interesting, because some of this reflects my white middle-class upbringing too– the ‘what nice girls do’, aspect, especially. And I think much of white culture paints black people as the sexually out of control other, the reverse of “that’s what white folks do.”

  8. Sara no H. wrote:

    Eh, the best I can offer is that I occasionally ponder what it means for me, as a Pinay woman, to be bipoly and whether that plays into stereotypes of Asian women as into “all kinds of freaky sex”. But I don’t really write sex advice columns because, well, nobody ever asks me to - and a lot of my answers would probably be based on theory, not experience, to boot.

    I wouldn’t mind being a sex-advice columnist, because hey, my major is in critical gender studies with an emphasis on sexualities and I like exploring intersectionality. But as they say, theory only takes you so far.

  9. Black Canseco wrote:

    Zane’s hilarious. met her at an authors conference a couple years back. About as mild-mannered and laid back as could be–at least on that day.

    Cliched? maybe, but her strength is her willingness to to “go there” not just for shock value, but because as a black female author, she knows that if she doesn’t speak it, it won’t get said.

    Women readers appreciate being acknowledged. Here and E. Lynn Harris were bring that SATC flavor way before Candace, Carrie, etc.

    As for where are the ethnic female sex advice voices?

    Here’s my thought:

    I’m a published author. Black author. Business and urban culture.

    Black authors, no matter how eloquent, credentialed or qualified aren’t take seriously as authority figures on any topic. Go to B&N, Borders, Amazon and see how many “how-to” or advice books by Black Authors get prominent shelf space? Zane’s relegated to the “Black Lit” section–you don’t even see her in Women’s sections. E Lynn doesn’t get the “romance/fiction” sections—he gets the “black author’s section, which is about 2 shelves tall and buried in the back of the store. And he sells like gangbusters.

    Conversely, Dan Savage, whom I stand him–too condescending and smarmy towards those he disagrees with–is on the mainstream shelves, not just the GLBT writers section.

    The white sex advice/business advice/leadership writers get face time if their books are selling.

    So a bunch chunk of this is white skinned privilege and bias within the publishing world.

  10. Black Canseco wrote:

    On a slightly related note: I always found the success of the Vagina Monologues to be rooted in a condescending white female view of sexuality and womanhood that pandered and ego stroked white women’s oft egotistic views of sex.

    Just had to say that.

    also want to add the following:

    There’s no news value in WOC’s as sex-advice-experts. Black women are largely perceived as good-coochie-having, big-cock-that-goes for-at-least-an hour-chasing, demanding beings. To hear black woman talk about sex is like listending to a black male talk about having a hard inner city childhood. It’s like, “of course you are.”

    We’d rather hear these issues discussed by contradictions and from “unexpected sources”.

    Four white women chasing brand names, and being sexually/emotionally demanding? Wow! Go figure! That’s news.

    There’s no news in living up to a percieved stereotype.

    In athletics this is akin to dismissively attributing a player’s success to his “natural talent” as opposed to honoring his hard work, character and dedication.

  11. kerrita k. wrote:

    awesome post!

    for me - this issue is completely entangled with recent controversy over the nature of (white) feminism and questions of appropriation. i feel issues of ownership are true of all women - who are used as commercial tools. *remember those creepy booze print and tv ads where the woman transforms to a sexy dispenser for alchol?* if that were a man - where would the alcohol pour from? :0)

    as an african american woman i am made very well aware through my students’ evaluations that i am a commodity that they either accept or reject if my presentation of my feminine self is not aligned with their schema for who i am supposed to be as a black woman and their professor. i am their thing. and they get to write upon me without question at their discretion. additionally, i am dinged if i ‘fail’.

    as well, i have never really had a language for my own sexuality or an outsider’s view of it until i started exploring theoretical feminism. what i did receive as an oldest girl child of a black southern family were conflicting messages of womanist power when coupled with exhortations to “be good” because good & smart girls will always be ‘watched’ by unnamed others. like other commentators. both of which are the exact opposite of sexual pleasure and exploration, imho. and. as someone who has dated outside my race and questioned heterosexist norms - there is an absence of interrogation of the role of race based sexual fetishism and racism within many predominantly white alt-sex communities. sex-pos - yes. the way this pro-sex behavior intersects with race, power and privilege - no.

    i think our (WoC) absence in sex columns signifies a cultural conundrum where black women are presented in the popular culture (and subsequently in our own heads) as lobotomized mtv objects shaking our asses; asexual, unangry and maternal figures at peace with their lot in life; or colossal succubi with untamed vaginas. i feel like there are multiple essentialized forms for women of other races. and these assumptions are weights that we have not begun to acknowledge in our sexual relations.

    in the popular culture, and sadly, lots of (white) feminism there is no room at all for complex, messy, rich or 3-dimensional brown girl sexuality. all of which are the very definition of sex to me.

    -kerrita k.

  12. Lisa wrote:

    I have to admit that a friend of mine …WHO is a minister…has a radio show where she describes herself as a “SEXOLOGIST” and because she is an unmarried woman, of course, people are just FLOORED when they learn she is a minister and they feel she should not discuss sex.

    Once, a woman in a workshop that was about sexuality, held up a color photo of a woman’s vagina. All of the women in the room either gasped or SCOWLED.

    She asked, “I’d like to start the discussion now about your reactions of horror and disgust to seeing this photo and what that means in terms of your own view of YOURSELVES as sexual beings.”

    Silence.

    If this woman had held up a color photo of a black woman’s bare butt, the scowls would not have existed.

    This just further exposes the issues about sexuality that permeate due to the baggage of Christianity and misinterpreted doctrines.

    Geesssh!
    Lisa

  13. jvansteppes wrote:

    Its interesting that you mention Dan Savage; I stopped reading his column years ago when a reader wrote him a letter about a racist incident in the white GLB community and he responded that instead of getting upset at white gays the reader should get mad at the Black community for being homogenously homophobic. [I hope one day Barbara Smith puts him in his place].
    Of course he’s also known for sketchy gender politics but I’d long been desensitized to gay male misogyny by the time I read his column…

    Califia regularly misses the boat on race issues too, and I find that to be a common theme among sex positive folks, along with a lack of discussion about reasons why some people might NOT want to express their sexualities in the prescribed ways [race-inflected history, assault etc].

    On a side note because you make reference to sex positivity as it relates to trans-positive writing and activism; this is an area in which there is an embarrassing lack of POC writing, which is NOT because there aren’t trans people of color all over the place.
    A quick perusal of the average trans studies shelf or database will acquaint one with English-language authors like Riki Wilchins, Susan Stryker, Kate Bornstein, Patrick Califia, Sandy Stone, Leslie Feinberge, Jamison Green, Viviane Namaste [yes, she’s white and her last name is an appropriation] etc, but you’d think from this selection there hasn’t been a trans POC agitator since Sylvia Rivera. There are great POC trans people around [such as members of the Mangoes with chili theatre group] but for *some* reason they aren’t published…

  14. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    Finally! I got my cleaning done and am waiting for pizza. So, let me address some of your comments:

    @ all y’all–thank you so much for responding. To borrow from Sen. Barack Obama, you know I love you back!

    @Black Canseco–I appreciate your comments. But, if there’s no news value in Black women (or other women of color) being sex-advice columnist because they’d be living up to a perceived stereotype, then Zane shouldn’t have bothered to write Dear G-Spot. As you said, her readers appreciate that recognition, even when other media don’t bother to look around at her and them. And, to some people, Dan Savage would be considered a great sex advice columnist by virtue of the fact that he’s a gay man, so he’d be a “natural” for talking about “deviant” behavior. For those biased folks, any sexual behavior that’s non-procreative (and, by extension, heterosexual) is “deviant.” For the more liberal-yet-biased, they can say Savage’s advice is like having a “gay best friend,” thus proving how hip they are. So is Savage a “new” voice or an “expected” voice? Savage’s white-skin advantage is one thing, I’ll grant you that; but, as atlasien said, his being an openly gay white man who gives sex advice “is only easier…because [he pays] much greater price: the risk of being bashed, tortured and killed if [he] express [himself] in unsafe spaces.”

    @kerrita k and Persia–thanks for your compliments! Your comments are what I find interesting re: how the lack of sexual inhibitions (except API men, who are stereotyped nowadays as asexual) is passed around to “others” like the proverbial hot potato to the point that those stereotypes may hinder us in verbally expressing our sexual desires and well as consensually acting on them…and wanting to give advice about them.

    @Sara no h–Do you think Dan Savage or Zane are MDs or PhDs in sexology? No, friend. On that, you may have an edge on both of them. But your hesitation does bring up another aspect of how the sex-positive movements play out in terms of advice-giving, which I think Sarah J touched on–the experience factor. Tristin Taormino is very open about her sexual experiences; Dan Savage is relatively so. Dr Hutcherson may well be, but her writing style isn’t as revealing. Zane, to me, is an interesting one, though–she’s graphically straightforward but, at least in Dear G-spot, she rarely reveals the experiences upon she based her advice as her own. Perhaps Zane feels she’s revealing enough by telling the female readers how to “ride d***.” I’m not her brain, so I can’t tell you either way. Even I, as a budding writer on sex and race, am still figuring out what to reveal about my own sexual experiences–again, a big part of that hinging on the spectre of the hypersexualized Black woman. And do you, Sara, go out and gain sexual experience for the sake of writing about it for an advice column, even considering the stereotype of Asian women being “into all kinds of freaky sex”? Dunno…all I know is perhaps your particular voice is what’s needed, revealed experience or not. Why do you need to be asked, friend?

    @atlasien–”It’s not like we can kick all the men out of the room temporarily and come to a decision.” Damn, friend. Can we compromise and kick out *some* of the men?:-D Just kidding, Racialicious fellas. I feel what you’re saying, though.

    @ Lisa–who is your minister friend? And who’s the woman who led the workshop? I love them!

    @ Emily Lauren–why, thank you for the compliment! However, if I made this post any longer, Latoya and Carmen would have jumped on my blog and talked about me.:-D

    @Tami–thank you for the compliment! But you were such an integral part of the process and the post, so I owe you a bouquet of gratitude, too!

  15. Logan wrote:

    I’ll preference by saying that I’m just throwing this out here for the sake of discussion, so if I’m off, feel free to correct me. But a link first:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13834042/

    I sent this a couple years back on Facebook to a friend of mine from Grade School whose a Minister around Columbus, knowing he’d enjoy it. Now, on one hand, this doesn’t have much to do about the issue of Sex Advice for women of color, since it really is an old white guy talking to presumably other relatively old white people. However, I think it does strike at a key component, which is the seemingly Puritanical view of sexual practice in America.

    I think, in large part, the belief that sex was evil, so to speak, permeated American culture due to the impact of early Christian religions in America. While in private it could be an expression of love, there was a general negative view of sexual activity for the most part in America. Really, sex wasn’t a publicly talked about subject until the Sexual Revolution of the 60s. It’s only been recently, as far as I can tell, that Christian sects are saying its ok to enjoy sex.

    To me, this seems to be a root cause of many of the taboos of sex today in American society. While I could be completly off base here, this could also speak to the “exoticism” of foreign women, who not bound by such taboos, were more sexually open than the women white men were accustomed to, and this led to stereotypes of foreign women as sexual creatures, when it really was an upbringing in culture. But, to my theory, as sexual practices become more embraced in culture in general, it will be easier for all women to embrace their sexuality. And yes, I did basically just say that once white women enjoy sex minorities can too, I realize that’s pretty stupid in itself, I just can’t think of a better way to phrase it. Just that…. everyone will benefit when the core issues are addressed.

    On a side note, this did bring back memories of reading “The Storm” by Chopin, which on a personal note, due to it being about an inter-racial affair with relatively graphic language wrote about in 1898, and the classroom discussion with my teacher (Black for reference) about whether or not the female in the story was black, using the language, the descriptions, etc. that was probably the first step in evolving from a “Well Meaning White Guy” into actually realizing racial issues, so to speak.

  16. G.D. wrote:

    This is a fantastic post.

    Something about the recurring theme that black people are more likely to hold Puritanical sexual views makes me shift in my seat. I don’t know that if Lisa’s minister friend were a Latina/South Asian/white and her audience were Latina/South Asian/white women that there responses would have been terribly different.

    i think the context — churchified people talking to a church leader — may play a bigger role in their views/response than, say, race/ethnic culture. (but i know there’s a lot of overlap there.)

    Also, re: Cruel Secretary’s point about sexualized racial stereotypes brings to mind Candace M. Jenkins’ idea of the ’salvific wish’, which she says is ultimately about ‘about heteronormativity and a kind of rigid insistence that African Americans properly perform the roles of the heterosexual nuclear family in order to keep the community above reproach.’

    anyway, fascinating stuff.

  17. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    @ Logan–”And yes, I did basically just say that once white women enjoy sex minorities can too, I realize that’s pretty stupid in itself, I just can’t think of a better way to phrase it. Just that…. everyone will benefit when the core issues are addressed.”

    Great save there, friend…because I wasn’t aware that I, as a “minority” (talk about a word I *hate*) had to wait for white women to get theirs before I got mine.:-D Also–and this may be a chicken-and-egg argument, but I also think the racist mindset with which some of the white men approached these “foreign” women (sincerely, would you mind giving me your definition of that?) interlocked with their Puritanism which led to their stereotyping “all ‘foreign’ women as sexual creatures.”

    @G.D.–aww, shucks, thanks for the compliment! I feel where you’re coming from as far as potentially stereotyping Black folks as “more puritanical” over being “more sexual,” and therefore *still* not being seen as a group of people holding various viewpoints about sexual practices. (I mean, the 12% didn’t hold a meeting to agree on the points we should hold about sexual practices.:-D) I have to acknowledge, however, that it seems Black sexuality, at least–because I narrowed my post’s focus to discuss why this particular group is so sparsely represented as columnists in the sex-advice field, especially sex-positive advice, but they’re not the only PoCs not represented in these types of columns, which atlasien and Sara beautifully addressed–operates on a tightrope tightly strung between these stereotypes, and it’s those poles and that tightrope, along the general whiteness/racial blindspots of the sex-advice columnist field itself, is what still binds us. It’s loosening, thanks to Zane, Dr Hutcherson, and others, but that bind still operates in silencing us around openly and frankly talking about sex, especially in a bigger forum than, say, at our best friend’s homes or at church.

    @ jvansteppes–thanks sooooo much for the back-up re: Dan Savage and trans PoC writing. I meant to mention Patrick Califia in my initial comment, and I overlooked him. My deepest apologies for doing that. I completely agree that Savage is utterly problematic, and his popularity gives him a forum to express his shadiness and not have it deeply checked. (I bet Barbara Smith just rolled her eyes heavenward when she heard about his statements.) I mention him precisely because he is a popular writer, shadiness and all.

    And your statement, “There are great POC trans people around [such as members of the Mangoes with chili theatre group] but for *some* reason they aren’t published…”
    Co-sign.

  18. gatamala wrote:

    Definitely one of the best posts of the year!! [sigh] I’m going to be thinking about this all day at work!

  19. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    @ gatamala–friend, you’re making me blush. Thanks for your kind words.

    :TCS curties::

  20. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    Jeez, here’s me running on 4 hours of sleep. Take two, with feeling:

    ::TCS curtsies::

  21. wendi muse wrote:

    really great post! it’s very frustrating that black female sexuality is somewhere between damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. as black canseco already pointed out, we are characterized as sex maniacs…but it’s not in the “good” way or “sex positive” way that many white women are, whose promiscuity, while still frowned upon, is seen more as an expression of liberal thinking and an embrace of one’s sexual needs as opposed to the fulfillment of a racially and biologically set characteristic (ahem: stereotype). on the other hand, we are seen as bible thumping prudes who don’t want to try anything (i can’t tell you how many times i have heard the whole “i need to get me a white girl” excuse on tv, in films, in posts, and comments when it comes to black female sexuality. oh, you know…we have church in the morning, we don’t want to get out hair messed up, we have to go attend to the kids, we hate black men, etc etc…

    i’m tired of the bullshit.

    i’d rather be taken for what i am - someone who has sex, yes, but who doesn’t fit into either of the aforementioned categories. there is no room for us to be sex positive or even sexually conservative because society has already designated our place in those camps…and it’s one with a far more negative association than those dealt to whites.

    i think the same could be said of other ethnicities too:

    latinas: slutty ex kittens with thousands of kids or good girls who would rather make out with jesus than a boy (also known as : family oriented)

    apa: geisha girls whose savage sexuality is only reserved to white men or women who would rather read a book on quantum physics than think twice about sex

    indigenous women: promiscuous, but only because of tribal law or because they walk around half naked, meaning they want it anyway (no, seriously…captain cook and friends totally interpreted the appearance of the pacific island indigenous women to mean that!)…or tribal matriarch who hasn’t seen sex after her first wrinkle

  22. wendi muse wrote:

    oh sorry…how could i forget arab women? either submissive to their husbands as they hide behind yards of fabric or belly dancers willing to sleep with anyone upon whose lap they fall at the end of the night

    nevertheless…none of these images are good
    they are a combination of sexism and racism that i find more dangerous than just sexism or racism alone. it’s like trying to fight a double edged sword with a pebble

  23. bianca wrote:

    Many thanks for this post.

    It’s been 10+ long years that I’ve tried to work with my community, find publishers, get gigs in discussing and sharing essential advice on sexuality, pleasure, intimacy, sexual politics, pornography, and our histories of oppression and liberation.

    It saddens me to see all the white people I went to graduate school with and earned the same graduate degree in Human Sexuality Education, get the gigs and the space and the books and the recognition for doing color-free discussions and advice on sexuality and sexual health. At the end of the day, I think this is a tragedy. Proof that white women’s bodies are more valued over all others (as if the laws didn’t make it clear enough!). The sexual science field has got a long way to go when it comes to incorporating intersectional analysis and frameworks.

    Dorothy Roberts “Killing The Black Body” inspired and reminded me that there is still so much left unsaid when reading sex advice columns and books in general. At the same time I struggled with finding a space for people who are from the Spanish-speaking Caribbean or the West Indies in general who did this work.

    Everyone’s comments about being taken seriously, challenging stereotypes, and working with activists who embrace colorblind racist ideologies is on point, especially in this field. I can’t tell you how many times I would bring up topics relevant to women of Color’s sexual pleasure in classes that went ignored and deemed unimportant. This continued in my doctoral program in Women’s Studies where conversations such as these were extremely limiting and not at all welcomed. This was shocking and made it almost impossible to argue that many of our cultural beliefs, values and rituals are erotic! It is easier, more comfortable to keep us (and our sexuality) in rigid one-dimensional dichotomies that don’t allow room for various forms of expression to be appreciated and recognized as valid. This is just another example that the “white” way to be sexually /active/accepted/etc. the “right” way. (juarez & kerl have a great article on this topic).

    We are out there! Sexologists of Color do exist and we want to work, share, and educate. Please look for us if you have a project, training, question, or are interested in joining the field. I can’t say it enough: We need more sexologists of Color.

  24. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    @ wendi—thanks for the compliment, friend! *Hugs*

    And I feel you–I *really* feel you–on rejecting the stereotype tightrope that we WoCs seem to always have to negotiate around sex, even when we’re talking about it. I hesitate to reject sex-positivity, even though 1) I have to consider that my saying that can—and, more than likely, will—be heard to my being down with fulfilling the stereotype of the Buckwild Black Woman (for the record: ummmm…..no) and 2) the very real—and very effed up—practice of marginalizing PoCs in the movement and in other forums, as bianca mentioned in her comments, which I’ll get to soon. I just feel like, as I said before, we PoCs are living in this damned state of silence about sex because we’re conceding to not only the racialized sexual stereotypes but to, as you said, “there is no room for us to be sex positive or even sexually conservative because society has already designated our place in those camps…and it’s one with a far more negative association than those dealt to whites.” So, basically, we folks of color seem to be f***ed when it comes to our sexuality, so we’ll just f*** and shut up about it. I just feel like, by being silent, we’re conceding too damn much to the stereotypes and the other negative connotations at our own sexual expenses.

    You and I do agree that we both want to be seen as people who like sex and have no desire to walk on the aforementioned tightrope. To say that I like sex and refusing to fit the prude/whore dichotomy isn’t enough for me, though it’s a fantastic starting point. And that’s where the idea of sex-positivity comes in for me: it gives me a way to think and talk about consent and boundaries and sexual practices and proclivities. It gives me a way to open up to sexual ideas I may not have thought about before but may want to consider…or not, depending on what they may be.

    @ bianca—wow, you’re so very welcome for the post! *Hugs* And thank you for sharing your insights and experiences on how race plays out in the sexology field. I know that I do want to work with you in the future, and I’d love to know how to get into the field….

  25. kerrita k. wrote:

    totally late message - but i knew *knew* i read about this somewhere. here is a link to a colorlines magazine article about race play in an alt sex (strange term - new dsm anyone?) community.
    http://www.colorlines.com/printerfriendly.php?ID=46
    :0)
    -kerrita k.

  26. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

    @ kerrita k–friend, I’m sorry for the late response–haven’t checked back here in a bit. I caught this article a while ago. And I mentioned it at a gathering of fellow PoC bloggers a while back. The reaction was really interesting. The general reaction was surprise. One blogger said he heard of the practice but only in terms of some white man wanting African American women make them submit. Another blogger just about flipped out. I had to say to her that I totally empathized with her reaction (body memories of shackles and chains and all), but the reality is there are PoCs who are into it, and they don’t feel like they’re race traitors. And I stated that, though I loved Daisy Hernandez’s article, there was still an underlying disapproving tone to it, like she wanted to shake the interviewees and say, “Dammit, people! Can’t y’all see you’re oppressed?!?”

    Actually, I just interviewed another sex-pos blogger of color for my blog and we discuss race play and the limits of sex-positivity. It’ll post soon, so please swing by and check it out.

  27. política racial wrote:

    jvansteppes - your jibe at viviane namaste and the commentary about appropriation is very misplaced as far as her work is concerned. she constantly talks about the need to reconsider trans politics in light of POC and also class.

    i think a healthy dose of skepticism is in order for anyone writing in english, with a university education and based in the united states. and yet i know there are good activists among such people. yes, i think there should be more POC writers in general supported and published. however, there are many voices that aren’t published/heard in what amounts to trans or sex-positive work; and united statesians get all the bloody attention as they so often forget about the rest of the world. ¿qué pasa si tú escribes en otro idioma? ¿qué pasa si estás en una región del mundo donde acceder a un nivel de “educación” superior sea un privilegio reservado a una muy reducida minoría de personas? not every kind of politics flows from the united states… even if the place tries to bully and rule the world.

    and how is namaste’s surname an appropriation? time to stop criticising just for the sake of it… more important to think of the work someone does, not their name!

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