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1. Meet the Other Browns… | brilliantbrown on 22 May 2008 at 9:05 am

   […] found out about this over on Racialicious, where they seem to be slightly concerned about the stereotypical nature of the daughter character. I’m prevented from being too concerned about it based on MacFarlane and his team of […]

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   […] as “television’s great black hope for the 2008-09 season,” and I agree with Racialicious– my WTF-o-meter went wayyyyy off when I heard that news and saw the photo of the cast. But […]

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1. erin wrote:

   it may just work.

   Posted 19 May 2008 at 12:20 pm ¶

2. kd wrote:

   Over sexed black children, hmmmmm I’ve never ever seen that stereotype anywhere.

   Posted 19 May 2008 at 12:24 pm ¶

3. sylvie wrote:

   It depends on how they approach the racial stereotypes. It’s all about skewering the stereotype and not the group. Like on The Office, they make sure that it’s evident that Michael Scott is an idiot (like many idiots in offices across America) who are completely oblivious to his own offensiveness. If McFarlane just lines up stereotype after stereotype without pointing out the idiocy (of those doing the stereotyping), then it’s just gonna piss people off.

   Posted 19 May 2008 at 12:50 pm ¶

4. The Cruel Secretary wrote:

   The “flirtatious new stepdaughter” is wearing a video vixen outfit. Unless some of the one-liners deal with the conflict of emulating such images that don’t involve dissing her emerging sexuality and Black women’s sexuality in general, then I’m not feeling this.

   Posted 19 May 2008 at 12:50 pm ¶

5. Arturo wrote:

   It could take time for this one to … well, to not suck. I gave up on American Dad after two brutally unfunny episodes, but reportedly it’s improved to the point where it’s better than FG.

   Posted 19 May 2008 at 12:54 pm ¶

6. Celeste wrote:

   I love family guy so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. I could do without the “flirtateous” step-daughter but I’ll wait and see.

   Posted 19 May 2008 at 12:56 pm ¶

7. Sara wrote:

   Family Guy is ridiculously offensive and uses stereotypes constantly, but it’s always done in a way that makes it clear McFarlane is mocking those who actually hold these stereotypes. I agree that McFarlane doesn’t really have any perspective on the black experience, but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. And maybe he’ll actually hire a black writer or two.

   Posted 19 May 2008 at 1:41 pm ¶

8. Bohemian Writer wrote:

   Oh God, am I the only one NOT looking forward to this? Why is the American media sooo obsessed & strangely fascinated w/ black folks that white creators of a show feel the need to put us on “blast” like that? If its a branch/spinoff of FG you already KNOW it’s gonna be offensive & stereotypical on more than 1 level & what’s worse is that there are IDIOTS who watch this sh*t who believe that we are this way & whatnot. You know what I want to see, an Asian family or a Hispanic family cartoon. Damn. I’m just tired of it. Just my 2 cents.

   Posted 19 May 2008 at 2:19 pm ¶

9. Erin wrote:

   I stopped watching Family Guy after getting into a conversation with an asshat who thought it was funny because of the way it made fun of gay people and was so “politically incorrect”. I realized that we were watching the show with two completely different perspectives and it just wasn’t the same for me after that conversation.

   These kinds of shows (FG, Southpark [back in the day, anyway], etc.) are tricky…

   Posted 19 May 2008 at 2:56 pm ¶

10. heyhey wrote:

    @Sara: I agree with you, and I know that he’s got several asian writers on FG & American Dad (I checked after a particularly asian-joke heavy episode of AD with the chinese adoptive parents… which made me chuckle)

    @Erin: Actually, that asshat must be part of the viewing contingent that McFarlane claims to “love pissing off”, as he’s turned Stewie (the baby) full-on gay– and still funny– much to the complaints of many former fans who clearly didn’t get the joke.

    Did I just kinda defend Seth McFarlane?

    I dig him when he’s FOCUSED (Star Wars parody, recent American Dad– which I too HATED until recently) and not bouncing all over with the 70’s references. I will reserve judgement on this one, because at his best his shows do “wrong” so right that I laugh despite myself, like the FG stroke-joke that turned out of the blue to be a pro-stem cell research message. At his worst it’s 30minutes of late 30’s ADD.

    If he gets some good writers (…of color, one hopes) on board and skewers stereotypes as opposed to promotes them, I’ll tune in.

    Also, Bear family neighbors? Curious.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 3:40 pm ¶

11. leah wrote:

    i personally don’t think that family guy deals with race in a way that is tranformative, satirical, or anti-racist in any way. unlike the clever, thought-out, adult comedy of a show like the office, family guy presents material in a way where it does not seem like they’re making a meta-joke out of “mocking the stereotypes” or the ones who hold them, but rather reproducing them.

    i’m also surprised that a racialicious blogger would want to see a show based on quagmire. rape is never funny and should always be taken seriously, but through this character mcfarlane has taught a generation of children who religiously watch this show that it’s no big deal. indeed, quagmire (who regularly commits sexual assault and demeans women in other ways) is one of the most popular characters.

    i’d like to see family guy off the air for good. on top of being profoundly racist and sexist, it’s also just not very funny.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 3:53 pm ¶

12. Ali wrote:

    Not only do I wonder if the show will have any black writers, I also wonder if it will include black actors. Both Loretta and Cleveland were/are voiced by non-black actors. I actually enjoy Family Guy and am very curious to see how this endeavor will play out. I think shows that deal comically with stereotyping (be it racist, ableist, sexist, what have you) always run the risk of entertaining two different types of audiences for two completely different reasons. People will always be laughing “at” the jokes or “with” the jokes. I think that the creators of the show just have to go with the spirit in which the show was created and realize that the audience will either get it or not. Of course in the case of someone like Dave Chappelle he had so much personally invested in his audience “getting it” that it was very emotionally traumatizing to him to realize that more people were out of the loop than in.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 4:21 pm ¶

13. gorgeous black women wrote:

    (in Cleveland Brown voice) Hi y’all!

    I will reserve judgment until I’ve actually seen the show. Donna seems better than Loretta thus far, though the dead beat black father bit, ho-ish black teen daughter and morbidly obese ladies man of a son are not so much. Where’s Cleveland Jr.?

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 4:36 pm ¶

14. Aisha wrote:

    This is a disaster waiting to happen. I adore Seth, but this has the potential to ruin his reputation as a creator of fun, satirical comedy–as well as his career.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 4:37 pm ¶

15. Chica Dificil wrote:

    I’m skeptical. Even though all ethnic/racial groups appear to be “fair game” on Family Guy and now The Cleveland Show (i.e., redneck couple), there aren’t enought positive/realistic portrayals of African American families or other people of color represented on Network TV that would make me feel “ok” about this show and it’s promotion of stereotypes for a laugh! Even though “it’s just a cartoon” it ’s powerful stuff. Portrayals of “rednecks” or Victorian Brits on TV are not the norm but the exception.

    ALTHOUGH I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE FAMILY OF BEARS! NOW THAT’S DOPE!!!

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 5:22 pm ¶

16. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    If the bears dress up as Americans Indians, they could be the Paw Paws from the 1980s.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 7:14 pm ¶

17. Maria_Elena wrote:

    @The Cruel Secretary, Bohemian Writer, Erin, Leah, Ali, Chica Deficil: Thank you for those thoughts, because if I have to sit through someone else saying it’s satire and staring at me like I am a child I will scream. Especially the on-target parallels Ali drew with Chapelle show and it’s audience.

    Sara said: “Family Guy is ridiculously offensive and uses stereotypes constantly, but it’s always done in a way that makes it clear McFarlane is mocking those who actually hold these stereotypes.”

    I agree with the first half, and seriously disagree with the second. I promise you, as I feel it in my gut, that Seth McFarlane is a man who’s exploitive - under the guise of being somehow counter(pc)-cultural.

    But it is not true; how could it be? Time and again he makes his racist and misogynistic “jokes” - and then just leaves them there.

    Redemption is never achieved; we never see these jokes get proven wrong, or stupid, or anything. Jab after jab, McFarlane is free to express ever single un-pc thought in his privileged little mind. Forbidden or shameful for him to express anywhere else, here he’s got a venue to vent every hateful thought he’s ever had, and he’s celebrated for it.

    The network is throwing money and opportunity at someone who deserves it the least. “Oh my God, he wrote a joke about Sesame Street, that’s such an “in” joke relevant to my childhood.” Ugh.

    And in all honesty? What is interesting about that show anymore? How many more times do I have to see Meg get put down? Was Stewie killing his mother hilarious or rather horrifying??

    The clip that seriously ended it all for me?:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Qmnlw-sDfo

    What is the point of that? Come on, for anyone who presents this show as comedy, I’ve got to say: the emperor’s very much naked.

    Sorry this is long-ish and rant-ish. I am just tired of nobodies like him being given free rides, when we wouldn’t tolerate it of someone else. So as for yet another spin-off show? Thanks, but no thanks.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 7:57 pm ¶

18. Maria_Elena wrote:

    *every single

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 8:02 pm ¶

19. Tony wrote:

    I think some folks are overreacting to be honest.

    Lots of shows with white casts have had man chasing or flirty daughters.

    I mean look at McFarlanes two other teenage girls.
    Meg is constantly trying to get guys to find her attractive.
    The girl on American Dad (I forget the name) slept with her fathers boss (voiced by Patrick Stewart)

    The little kid trying to be a ladies man is hardly new or racial territory either.
    Perhaps if he actually knows a good bit about sex it could be too far, but just trying to be a ‘ladies man’ isn’t much.

    Really, there isn’t anything in the synopsis (atleast in terms of Clevlands new family) that isn’t simple “sitcom 101″.

    We don’t want to make things over PC where we can’t EVER depict a black teenage girl as a flirt or a black man cheating do we?

    About the only thing I really find unbelievable is the daughters outfit.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 8:32 pm ¶

20. Erica wrote:

    Did anyone honestly expect MacFarlane to do a PC show? Fact: People like political incorrectness in humor.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 9:47 pm ¶

21. merq wrote:

    Maria_Elena:
    I’m standing on my chair, doing the Teen Movie Slow-Clap in your honor. Abso-fuckin-lutely brilliant.

    Tony:
    I agree that we should be able to have characters of color be as evil, whorish, and clueless as their white counterparts. There is, unfortunately, a difference.
    1. Blacks are constantly being depicted as lazy, whorish, and clueless on TV. So if there’s nothing else on TV to counter that perception, then we’re screwed.

    2. Stan’s daughter on American Dad is slutty in a hippyish, pseudo-feminist kinda way. At least, she’s ‘principled’ in her promiscuity. Characters of color are often shown to be promiscuous in a more essentialist light.

    Plus, Loretta was a Sapphire character through and through. Disjointed argument, but I’m tired and need to go to sleep.

    That’s it, I’m done. Won’t be watching this dreck, though.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 10:02 pm ¶

22. jvansteppes wrote:

    The problem with this rush to glorify the ‘gutsiness’ of non-pc humor is that isn’t transgressive to use stereotypical humor for its own sake. Newsflash, there’s a middle ground between being offensive and not dealing with race or gender issues at all. Slutty daughters are getting boring as a TV archetype, just like overweight dads whose wives are stick thin. Slutty teen girls of color [suddenly I’m having a flashback to Mean Girls…] would be edgy if depicted in the right context but that happens a little too rarely for me to believe this is going to be any different from the swill we’re fed elsewhere…

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 10:37 pm ¶

23. Shauna wrote:

    I think the two stereotyped white families (rednecks vs Victorian Brits) foreshadow that the Clevlands are going to be stereotyped.

    “Here’s what trashy white people act like, here’s what classy white people act like, here’s what black people act like, and uh…..here’s what bears act like.” The redneck family will have incest jokes, the British family will have jokes a la the previous Family Guy “British porn” bit, and the black family will have jokes about deadbeat dads.

    However, isn’t it somewhat exciting that a major tv channel is going to do a cartoon focused on a black family? It could end up being somewhat positive.

    Posted 19 May 2008 at 10:40 pm ¶

24. TierList E wrote:

    I’ve become more and more let down with anti-pc humor, because it rarely tries to be funny in it’s own right. It’s basically “Hey I said an inappropriate stereotype! Lolz!” Even when I ignore my possible offense at it, in the end of the day it just wasn’t a funny joke.

    I’m slowly entertaining a theory- I don’t think anti-pc humor is really meant to be funny, funny- I think it’s trying to reinstate throwback majority opinions through a lighter medium, or oppositely to question it. There is always a deeper goal than to make someone chuckle.

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 12:10 am ¶

25. Nenena wrote:

    Wait. Where is Cleveland Jr. in that promo pic? I see all of the stepchildren mentioned in the synopsis, but where is Cleveland’s biological son?

    (I really get a kick out of Cleveland Jr. even though he only has like, five seconds of screen time every twenty episodes or so.)

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 12:34 am ¶

26. Tony wrote:

    Merq:
    I acknowledge there’s some difference, but considering we haven’t even seen what the daughter is like outside of the outfit I’d say it’s a bit early to call her being “flirtatious” as a major bad thing.
    There’s a big difference between flirtatious and slutty.)

    Slutty is, say, when a bunch of guys break into your home and hold you hostage, desperately trying to get the men holding you hostage to have sex with you.

    And perhaps it’s my odd TV watching habits, but I can’t really think of any “whorish” black women on TV.

    And there’s nothing to indicate any of the (black) characters will be ‘lazy’ or ’stupid’.

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 5:08 am ¶

27. lowercase tasha wrote:

    Alright, that’s it. Someone’s going to have to explain to me why “The Office” is so much less offensive than “Family Guy” in its usage of racial and sexist stereotypes.

    I’ve seen maybe five episodes of “Family Guy,” and by some bizarre coincidence, I think the episodes I saw were the craziest ones. There was the episode that revolved around the size of the eldest son’s penis. The one that really stuck out in my mind was the one where the father on the show was all of sudden a black slave (Cleveland was white), and the mother was the plantation owner’s white daughter. The mother gave up all her wealth and Antebellum Southern privilege to live in a shack with the black slave and raise their biracial kids. I laughed out loud! I’ve seen about as many episodes of “The Office” and have never laughed out loud. Yeah, I snickered, but it really wasn’t memorably funny.

    From the looks of it, Cleveland’s family looks like a black version of the “Family Guy” family (I don’t know all their names). You have the black Baby Stewie with hair, a black, tarted up version of the daughter, and a fatter, black version of the middle child son. I am mad at how the daughter’s dressed, though. However, it is FOX, and she could very well be channeling Christina Applegate as Kelly Bundy.

    @Tony

    The only “whorish” black women, I can think of on tv, that immediately come to mind, are the ones in the music videos and on maybe on certain reality shows, and the artists in those videos, the majority of which are black aren’t exactly complaining about how the women are portrayed. Those videos are on constantly, so I can see where merq is coming from, in terms of his desire to see more balance, but at the same time, “The Cleveland Show” is a cartoon with talking bears.

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 6:33 am ¶

28. Jeff Behrens wrote:

    I predict the best way to judge this show (from a racial perspective) will be to see what they do with the Stewie knockoff. I’ll hold judgment until then, but based on the description above, its not looking great.

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 10:50 am ¶

29. coco wrote:

    The daughter’s character reflects McFarlane’s use of sexist depictions of women in general as well as racism.

    All women are subject to being called “slutty” (like the daughter in American Dad), or judged on the basis of their ability to attract men, (like the daughter on Family Guy), but Cleveland Brown’s daughter is referencing the Jezebel stereotype which is sexist and racist in that it presents black woman as naturally promiscuous, as opposed to the image of the proper, reserved white woman (is that the Victorian Brit family? …McFarlane makes it too easy :\

    McFarlane’s imagery of the daughter seems to be drawn from a different source than the recent hisory of black female television characters.

    Although brief, there is some history of positive black female characters on television. Mrs. Cosby, and the wife and daughters on the Fresh Prince in the 80s and 90s, but more recently, the daughter and wife on the Bernie Mac show, the mom and daughter on Everybody Hates Chris, Raven and her mom on That’s so Raven, the women on Girlfriends, the wife on My Wife and Kids (the daughter is an airhead, but not slutty), even The Game, that show about football wives, doesn’t show black women as inherently promiscuous. These characters show a range of approaches to being a black woman in America.

    Shanae-nae on Martin, and the female characters on In Living Color were sometimes caricatures but not necessarily “slutty” just because they were black female characters.

    I think it is significant that these shows had meaningful input from black producers, writers, and actors.

    What’s annoying is that, I guess, besides this one, I can’t think of any “white” sitcoms, with black female characters off the top of my head, much less any black women and girls playing non-stereotypical roles.

    as lowercase tasha noted though, the Jezebel, is alive and strutting through hip hop and music videos which often feature sexist depictions of black women

    It is interesting that the video ho is an instantly recognizable stereotype, but these other new ways of showing black women and girls are not seen as typical,…yet.

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 12:06 pm ¶

30. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    (Sorry Coco, for some reason your comments got caught in the spam filter. Everyone, please drop me an email if you have a comment that hasn’t been approved within a couple hours. If I’m online and commenting, email me if you haven’t seen it in a few minutes.)

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 12:09 pm ¶

31. Renee wrote:

    Judging from how Family Guy has dealt with issues of race I cannot help but think that this new program will be problematic. It may attempt to be satirical however I believe that it will lead to reductive presentations of blacks and issues affecting the African American Community. There are somethings that should simply not be portrayed as funny and judging from his track record McFarlane does not know where the line is.

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 12:18 pm ¶

32. cvalda wrote:

    TigerListE: Definitely agreed, in some cases. South Park I increasingly think is Trey and Matt’s libertarian dream - saying what they like, sticking it to The Man and oppressive PC liberals. You could almost call it “White Man Comedy,” where the most oppressive force on Earth is someone telling you they’re offended.

    tasha: Both Offices, US and UK, are largely about the deep failings of the boss. This includes repeatedly messing up on race and gender. In my favourite example he attempts to set up a “boy’s meeting” to counter a “women in the workplace” seminar, and ends up in the warehouse, alienating his lower-paid male employees to the point where they talk about unionising. Two reasons this is awesome:
    1) he has no real reason to set up a “boy’s meeting,” it’s clearly reactionary crap
    2) he misses real divides.

    There’s the question of who you’re laughing “at” and “with,” and in the Office we’re mostly laughing at him.

    But yeah, supposedly laughter has to do with things not making sense - stress relief, in a similar vein to crying. So this kind of humour I think is playing on our discomfort and our inability to solve or understand certain things - what affect that has seems very audience-dependant. Like, the same joke could be “it’s comedy, I can say what I want” or “yep, this makes no sense.”

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 5:40 pm ¶

33. merq wrote:

    Responding to earlier comments:

    My mistake. I meant to say black men and women are depicted as “whorish” in the media and general lore.

    Goodnight, folks.

    Posted 20 May 2008 at 8:48 pm ¶

34. lowercase tasha wrote:

    @merq

    what is your creteria for excellence when evaluating shows with black characters? Do you have a “Cosby Show” standard in which a show that doesn’t portray blacks at a certain socio-economic level is deemed inferior and potentially harmful to the public image of blacks, or is there some other measuring stick you use?

    Posted 21 May 2008 at 6:53 am ¶

35. holls wrote:

    I have to say that the first thing that came into my head was Kelly Bundy, so I don’t really get a ‘creepy-rascist’ initial response.

    Posted 21 May 2008 at 8:43 am ¶

36. merq wrote:

    @lowercase tasha

    I’m not sure where in my posts you got the idea that I only respected Cosby-esque depictions of black characters. But to answer your question, I look for depictions of black people as real people.

    I enjoyed two or three good seasons of Girlfriends (before Jill-Marie Jones left, and the writing spiraled into an cycle of idiocy) because it was real — it was neither a loud, sassy ‘hood’ tale nor a magical utopia of ebony luxury. Issues were tackled outside ‘Very Special Episodes,’ and little nuances you find in real-life interactions made it onto the show.

    Oh, and most importantly, I thoroughly enjoyed the fact that the characters actually wore clothes more than once. Like I said, the little things that gave it realism.

    Now, while we’re on the subject, what are your criteria?

    Posted 22 May 2008 at 10:35 pm ¶

37. lowercase tasha wrote:

    Oh, I wasn’t trying to imply anything. I mentioned the “Cosby Show” because a lot of black people use the Cosby show as a measuring stick for excellence when it comes to shows with black characters. As for your question, it depends. I’m more tolerant of shows using stereotype (blacks in the inner city/the hood, dealing drugs, etc.) if they are well done, but I wasn’t always. There was a time when “magic utopias of ebony luxury” were all I wanted to see. So for example, “The Wire,” which I originally wanted no parts of, until I actually sat down and was forced to watch some episodes and saw how good it was. Same goes for the movie, “Friday,” which was actually pleasantly surprising, unlike what I assumed it would be, chock full of “shicoonery.” I think I would apply the same standard to this “Cleveland Show,” if it is a clever satire, despite the stereotypical short comings. Look at a show like “Everyone Hates Chris.” The mother’s a loudmouth. Chris runs into every hood cliché in the book in his environment, but at the end of the day, EHC is a loving, family, coming of age show. Sometimes you can’t always judge a Cleveland show by the stepdaughter’s outfit.

    Posted 23 May 2008 at 4:05 pm ¶

38. merq wrote:

    Definitely. Real judgement will have to wait until the show airs… but I can’t say I’m hopeful, considering McFarlane’s past (and present).

    Posted 23 May 2008 at 11:16 pm ¶

39. Whitney wrote:

    lowercase tasha–”Sometimes you can’t always judge a Cleveland show by the stepdaughter’s outfit.”

    Exactly. There are many young women on sitcoms that dress “trashy” and I don’t see how the stepdaughter’s style of dress is an issue. I don’t see people getting upset over, say, the Kelly Bundys or when white female characters dress “slutty.”

    Posted 24 May 2008 at 7:10 am ¶

40. hamira wrote:

    /I don’t see people getting upset over, say, the Kelly Bundys or when white female characters dress “slutty.”/

    I find this response somewhat disingenuous. First of all, people do get upset over it. Second, the history of media portrayal between white women and black women have been VASTLY different and anyone one who tries to play otherwise just comes across as clueless and somewhat idiotic. People are finding this image of the young daughter problematic because this is the typical “go to” sexually pervasive stereotype used for young black women. You’d think it didn’t have to be spelled out on Racialicious.

    Posted 25 May 2008 at 12:40 am ¶

41. Patrick wrote:

    What it all really boils down to is that stuff isn’t percieved as racist or offensive if it is funny. So if this show is funny, everybody can calm down and not worry that there are some jokes that play on stereotypes of the African American community. However, it could end up being like Mad TV or Carlos Mencia and just be horrible and incredibly racist, because they are the two worst shows on TV. Dave Chappelle gets away with it and it doesn’t offend me because he is hilarious, but other Carlos Mencia….not so much. And whoever on this message board said that they would like to see this show done with a hispanic or asian family, because it is always attacking “us”….you don’t speak for all people with dark skin, you only speak for yourself and that comment is racist on so many levels….its just shocking.

    Posted 25 May 2008 at 8:39 pm ¶

42. Doug wrote:

    I think that before we really jump to any conclusions, we should at least be fair and watch the show. I mean were kind of being judgmental and discriminatory by assuming that the show is going to be offensive and possibly racist, which in itself is sort of like being racist. I personally doubt the show will be that funny since MacFarlane’s other shows are losing steam, but I could easily be wrong. At any rate, I say we should refrain from passing judgment on the show until it actually premiers.

    Posted 05 Jun 2008 at 1:17 pm ¶

43. Jonathan Mead wrote:

    I think in order for them to make this show good they’re going to need some real black people’s input. Especially if they want to dodge criticism from being stereo typical and racist. I’m not trying to be PC, that’s just the way it is.

    I love Family Guy, but after American Dad, which to me makes me want to gouge my eye out while vomiting, I’m a little skeptical.

    Like everyone else said though, I’m willing to give it a chance before I judge it.

    Posted 09 Jul 2008 at 5:40 pm ¶

44. Anonymous wrote:

    omg!

    Posted 10 Jul 2008 at 8:37 pm ¶

45. MERCEDES G. MILES wrote:

    IM A BLACK GUY AND I LIKE BTH AMERCIAN DAD AND FAMILY GUY . SO YOU KNOW I CAN’T FOR THE CLAVELAND SHOW NEXT YEAR. STILL I WONDER HOW IN THE WORLD CLEAVE LAND JR GOT SO FAT?

    Posted 11 Jul 2008 at 4:34 pm ¶

46. Jess wrote:

    I have to agree with some of the comments about how anti-pc humor is losing its charms. I thought it was great for awhile, questioning our perceptions and what not. But now that is all any adult focused animated series does. I am not so much offended as bored. It is starting to look like a lazy route in writing.

    Posted 28 Aug 2008 at 4:45 am ¶

47. Jerome wrote:

    I’m a black man who loves Seth Macfarlane’’s writing, FAMILY GUY and AMERICAN DAD. However, Mr Macfarlane may be making a huge mistake with this Cleavland show idea. At the end of the day he’s not black and has no idea what the black experience in a white world is. To paraphrase Jim Mora; He may think he does but he really doesn’t and he never will. I hope he proves me wrong but I think he’s going to get himself into a lot of very hot water with this show.

    Posted 16 Nov 2008 at 8:16 am ¶

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