Garcelle Beauvais derided for her “white twins” at Racialicious

Garcelle Beauvais derided for her “white twins”

by guest contributor dnA, originally published at Too Sense

There’s a lot of hating going on over at Bossip on a thread that posted the cover of Jet, featuring the gorgeous Garcelle Beauvais and her adorable twins:

(The one on the right is making a black power fist. I’m for surrious.)

Most of the hating takes the form of the “why she datin’ that white man” or “them babies is white and ugly” or “I thought they had AIDS” ect, ect. The kids better get used to it though, because just judging by the choice of wardrobe, Mrs. Beauvais-Nilon is going to be raising those kids to think of themselves as black, so they’re going to hear a lot of this:

That white man got some STRONG genes. What is he german?

And:

Not impresssed at with her ALL WHITE TWINS!!! Just what we need more white folks in this world. Pathetic!!!

Sigh.

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Comments

atlasien wrote:

Those comments are pretty stupid.

However, I do need to add a wrinkle to this story. I just Wikipedia-d her and found out that she is over 40. This really raises the odds that her children were conceived using IVF and a donor egg, so she might not be their genetic mother.

I hate to be gossipy about it, but it’s really not an issue that most people are aware of. There’s a lot of secrecy around the subject… too much secrecy, I think.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 9:12 am ¶
Linda wrote:

They all look cute, I love babies!

I don’t think Gaby plans on raising her kids Black. I think she will raise them as mixed race, and teach them about their culture.
Well at least I hope she does. I really don’t think that the clothes her twins are wearing is an indication of blackness, since other people of different races and ethnicities wear Bob Marley (who is mixed race) t-shirts.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 9:22 am ¶
Eva wrote:

I thought those comments were stupid, too many ignorant people in this world, and that’s George Bush’s fault, folks just follow his lead.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 9:56 am ¶
The Cruel Secretary wrote:

…the hatin’ gotten *that* bad at Bossip, dnA? I used to read Bossip just for the snark, but I got a headache after a while and couldn’t deal with it.

IVF and donor egg or her own egg and his sperm, the enduring fact is those twins are here and the children of an interracial couple. They’re going to have to navigate a whole bunch of nonsense from various quarters, such saying they’re not “black enough” ot they should consider themselves “black” or someone saying their particular take on mixed-race identity isn’t “right” or insinuating that they should take advantage of their phenotype and “pass” for white (if the twins’ skin tone and hair texture stays the same).

Personally, I’d be interested in Ms Beauvais-Nillson keeping a blog about rearing her children, like the ongoing choices she and her husband make around racial identities for the boys and how her own racial indentity changes due to them being in her life.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:10 am ¶
deb wrote:

Gosh, I don’t want to be critical or too cynical, but I couldn’t help but think how the lighter-looking twin is the one she’s holding cheek-to-cheek, Jaid, who has “his dad’s blue eyes.” I scanned the pic (hope the link works) of the couple with their twins and Garcelle’s 17-year old son Oliver.

I’ve noticed over the years that black magazines love these types of covers. Years ago, singer Deniece Williams appeared on the cover of Jet with her blonde-haired blue-eyed baby boy. Years ago Donna Summer appeared on the cover of Ebony with her blonde-haired grey-eyed daughter, Mimi. (The article described Mimi’s German dad as Aryan!) And I’ll never forget the first time I saw a white woman on the cover of Essence magazine! Except the blonde-haired grey-eyed woman was the biracial daughter of the brown-skinned woman with whom she shared the cover. I don’t remember what the story was about. Maybe it was a Mother’s Day issue?

There’s even a thread called Black Parents with White Kids” at Onedroprule.org.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:15 am ¶
Orville wrote:

The comments on Bossip.com are immature but black women seem to be treated more harshly for marrying outside of the black race. At least this is just my personal opinion. In fact, on Bossip.com they make a big deal if a black male celebrity dates a white actress. For instance, the new rumor is P Diddy or whatever that guy calls himself is going out with Cameron Diaz. However, if a black woman is dating a white man or married to a white man or has a child with a white man she is scorned. It is a total double standard.
Bossip.com is a website that attracts a lot of college aged kids and high school students. Bossip.com isn’t exactly intellectually stimulating if you know what I mean. Another black celebrity blog that is much better is Concrete Loop. Bossip deliberately does stuff to try to be controversial plenty of times. I don’t take Bossip.com seriously.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:18 am ¶
summer wrote:

like Linda wrote, i don’t think you can make the leap from the clothing to determine how she’ll be raising her children. (i’m also speaking from the perspective of a mom of a mixed race child.)

also, the comments are not surprising. as is often noted, the anonymity via the internet has brought forth a lot of sick individuals over the years who love using this outlet to spew their venom!

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:21 am ¶
Bohemian Writer wrote:

I don’t really know much about this actress but I just imdb’d her & I think it’s really sad how people on Bossip are judging her based on those pictures. Most babies come out really light anyways, I’m from Trinidad & when I was born my dad said I looked like a white rat, but I’m brown-skinned now at 24. I hope she doesn’t get too much flack for this & I wish her & her babies well.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:25 am ¶
Persia wrote:

The kids are adorable! One of the rare times a really beautiful mom has really beautiful kids.

Don’t get me wrong– racism is eww and wrong in all its forms– but it especially offends and confuses me when directed at adorable babies. Shut up and look at the cute, dammit!

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:26 am ¶
deb wrote:

Here’s the Donna Summer and Mimi cover from 1977. And here’s a rare photo of Donna and family. I was thinking, “Ohhh…look! Mimi’s all growed up!” That’s Mimi’s dad!

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:34 am ¶
Wanda wrote:

Keep in mind that Bossip is a gossip blog and people can get quite ignorant on there. People are just being haters. If they were Beyonce’s kids, they would be the most beautiful babies in the world.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:35 am ¶
*M* wrote:

People are absolutely disgusting. I read on one forum that “they should get tans” or its ’sad they do not look like their mother” and “is she sure those are her kids”
People say being colour blind is stupid or is not helpful.
Looking from the comments, it needs to hurry up

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:41 am ¶
gladman wrote:

Mom had better be prepared for the white people who will thinks she’s the nanny! Hopefully they will get some black features but then again if the mom has white in her family them maybe not.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 11:13 am ¶
DivergentDana wrote:

“Bossip.com isn’t exactly intellectually stimulating if you know what I mean. ”

I know… it’s like a small step up from MediaTakeout. Nasty comments on unmoderated sites/forums are the rule… that’s why I don’t make a habit of frequenting them anymore…. hell, I found out that black people were widely, vehemently despised by John and Jane Q. Public through the Internet.

“Most babies come out really light anyways, I’m from Trinidad & when I was born my dad said I looked like a white rat, but I’m brown-skinned now at 24. ”

This is totally true and really speaks to the profound ignorance of the commenters. Many, many babies don’t get their accurate childhood coloring until about a few months into life, and in fact, hair color and skin pallor get gradually darker throughout childhood as you go into adulthood — that’s why there’s so many fair-haired children that turn into brunette adults. I’m a medium toned black person from two medium toned black parents myself, but when I was born, my grandfather said that I “looked like a white baby.” It happens.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 11:42 am ¶
Sewere wrote:

Deb

Years ago, singer Deniece Williams appeared on the cover of Jet with her blonde-haired blue-eyed baby boy. Years ago Donna Summer appeared on the cover of Ebony with her blonde-haired grey-eyed daughter, Mimi. (The article described Mimi’s German dad as Aryan!) And I’ll never forget the first time I saw a white woman on the cover of Essence magazine! Except the blonde-haired grey-eyed woman was the biracial daughter of the brown-skinned woman with whom she shared the cover. I don’t remember what the story was about. Maybe it was a Mother’s Day issue

Maybe I’m missing something, so I’ll ask what are you trying to get at? Is the issue the frequency of “white-looking” bi-racial women on Jet’s cover or the novelty of the way they are being presented?

Second Quote:

That’s Mimi’s dad!

Ok, you lost me here? White guy with bad 70’s hair-do or bad pose?

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 12:01 pm ¶
enfantdunord wrote:

Just yesterday, the guy I ordered my lunch from felt the need to ask me my ethnicity before letting me order, and when I told him, proceeded to loudly announce in the small restaurant that I’m “too light skinned” to be half Desi half Scottish/Irish.

Who cares what “features” these babies inherit? They will still grow up looking at and loving the faces of both their parents, and identifying with them, as I identify with both my parents despite however random rude strangers read me (and everyone seems to read me differently.

It will be difficult for them to hear comments all the time, as I’m sure they will, but I have learned not to let the fact that my appearance confuses other people confuse ME about who I am.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 12:37 pm ¶
jd wrote:

Deb - I look at that photo exactly the opposite way. The kid in the Marley shirt is securely in her lap and looks snug and comfortable. The other is being held much less firmly and at an akward angle. He looks scared that he’s about to fall at any second.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 12:57 pm ¶
islandgirl550 wrote:

I did take a second glance when I saw Garcelle’s babies, but then again I have aunts and uncles in my family who look phenotypically white. Blacks in America, the Caribbean (she’s Haitian), and in South America usually have some white blood. It isn’t a stretch that her babies look white or fair as we say in Jamaica.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 1:00 pm ¶
Brigitte wrote:

Gossip blogs bring out the worst in people.

I don’t doubt at all the she and her husband are the genetic parents of these twins. Light skin happens. It is not a curse just as dark skin is not a curse.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 1:02 pm ¶
Gregory A. Butler wrote:

So the lightskin hate/envy dialectic begins early!!!

I’ve been on the recieving end of that often enough - but in this case, the haters are so ignorant they don’t even know that Black babies are generally born light and then darken up as they get older!

Ignorant AND colorstruck - the bias Daily Double!!!

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 1:04 pm ¶
bradski wrote:

For God’s sake, “marrying outside the black race”? Uh, did it not occur to any of you that Garcelle must be/is mixed-race?!

Basic biology: blue eyes are a recessive trait. That means that both parents have to carry the blue eye color gene.

African-Americans are on average mixed-race. Period. That is the history of much of the African-descended people through out the Americas.

This blog and its predecessor have done repeated stories about the genetic surveys of African-Americans to prove this point. The average African-American is 18 to 22% white.

Tom Joyner is very light-skinned and has grey eyes. According to the DNA test he took on the PBS series “African-American Lives 2,” Joyner is 65% African and 35% European.

On the same program both Don Cheadle, who has strong African features, learned he had 20% European ancestry.

It’s so silly to hear African-Americans talking about the “black” race in an American context as some genetically monolithic construct. It ain’t so.

P.S. The whole family is cute.
Also, IVF does not imply a donor egg was used. For older women, conception is harder but that’s why they have eggs harvested and multiple eggs implanted, which increase the likelihood of multiple birth pregnancies.

It’s not a question of our society becoming color blind, it a question people not being so incredibly ignorant, cruel, hateful, and self-hating. Why is it anyone’s business whom Garcelle married?

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 1:15 pm ¶
Lola wrote:

This is BOSSIP!!! This site is full of haterade addicts, I don’t even visit it anymore because the hate is unbelievable. But it does reflect the state of mind of a few which is sad.

One thing I’ll NEVER EVER understand is how people can attack babies. I don’t care if you don’t like IRR, don’t diss the babies, don’t diss those precious innocent sweethearts who didn’t do anything to anyone.

ORVILLE wrote: The comments on Bossip.com are immature but black women seem to be treated more harshly for marrying outside of the black race.

Thank you Orville for stating the obvious. Garcelle Beauvais is going through what most black women in IRR go through, the blatant , ugly and harsh double standards. I’m so not surprised. Granted black men get criticized, and it’s unfortunate, but the amount of hate black women get for dating outside of their race is ridiculous. I’ve read disgusting comments towards Halle, Kerry Washington or Garcelle. A black girlfriend of mine lost friends for dating a white guy, mostly male friends, they told her things that I wouldn’t even tell an “enemy”, and the irony is some of these dudes date or have dated outside of their race, I never understood that logic.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 1:16 pm ¶
Sean wrote:

I just took a look at that site. I guess IR dating is a hot button topic over there. I’m not sure who Kim Kardashian is but I guess since she’s apparently involved with Reggie Bush of the N.O. Saints, there have been some particularly nasty comments made about them. I think it’s ignorant and sadly it seems too many people are miserable and unhappy with their own lives, so they need to denigrate others.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 1:39 pm ¶
Sean wrote:

WOW! I’m so slow. I get it now: “Black gOSSIP”. Yikes, I don’t understand why people need to attack/criticize kids. What did they do? They’re innocent.

Lola, correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the demographic for such sites were predominantely women of high-school age? At least the commentary seems to strongly suggest the age group. (no offense to high-school agers)

I was aware of the controversy generated when it was learned that actor Taye Diggs was in fact married to a white woman. I had no idea that IR relationships inspired so much INTRA-racial bickering. (back to my naievete again)

Never-the-less, it’s still ignorant commentary whether directed at the lady/kids in question, Halle, Reggie Bush, Taye Diggs, or anyone who dates/mates/marries outside of their race.

It just seems logical to me that people who are happy with their own lives feel no need to belittle others because of who they are involved with.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 2:38 pm ¶
Lola wrote:

Sean, I don’t know what the demographic is supposed to be, but when I used to check out this site, sure there were some high-schoolers, but there were a lot of grown folks here (you could tell by the way expressed themselves and some of their experiences), men and women I would interact with, some of them visited while at work, just like on Concreteloop.com. I’ve had “beefs” with some grown folks on this site about IRRs. What’s funny about this site is that the very same people who will call Taye Diggs a sellout for having a white wife will complain that Usher’s woman is “too dark” in the next post.

I’m sorry I just don’t get it.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 3:06 pm ¶
Alyssa wrote:

I just stumble in to this site.
I can’t believe all the hating on blacks and whites.

Why is there so much hate anger in black women?

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 3:27 pm ¶
tasha wrote:

@Sean

Kim Kardashian is a loaded topic. The controversy surrounding her cannot simply be explained by her affinity for black men. Kim K rose to prominance with a sex tape co-starring R&B singer Brandy’s brother Ray J. She’s a lower rent version of Paris Hilton, and yet there’s a sentiment that various black men are more willing to not only defend Kim but to excuse her antics than they would a black woman in a similar situation because Kim is white. There’s an author by the name of Karrine Steffans, who wrote two New York Times best sellers about all the men she’s bedded in the hip-hop industry, and to read the reaction from a great many of the men on the black gossip blogs, Karrine wears a scarlett H (for ho), despite the fact that for all intents and purposes, all of Karinne’s escapades are hearsay, and there’s no embarrassing video tape to corrobarate the testimony, ala Kim Kardashian. So, to see high profile black men like Reggie Bush usher Kim around in public with pride, when there’s the sneaking suspicion that a black woman similar to Kim wouldn’t be extended the same courtesy, breeds resentment.

There’s also the issue of Kim’s figure, which is the other reason why she’s famous. She has an hourglass shape and a rear end that’s eerily disproportionate to the rest of her body, qualities, often stereotypically associated with black women. Except Kim is exoticized because of her hair and lack of melanin. She’s been mostly featured on covers of magazines that target the urban/mostly black male consumer. In fact, the marketing of Kim’s rear end is akin to that of black, hip-hop video vixens and “Flavor of Love” contestants, but Kim gets to reach a broader demographic because she’s white. Kim gets more coverage in black media than white media, and the black gossip blogs inundate their audience with her comings and goings because she’s controversial and generates blog hits.

@Orville

If what you think is true about black women getting more grief in IR’s, then it’s highly ironic, seeing as that everyone knows that black men date IR like three times more than black women, and there far more pictures and stories on those blogs featuring black men and non black women than vise versa.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 3:40 pm ¶
dnA wrote:

In some ways the hate from the Bossip folks is minor compared to what things used to be like. But I feel for those kids, who will go through their own unique racial shitstorm for their entire lives.

I guess what really makes me sad is knowing that, like me, there may not be a lot of other black kids who they will be able to share that experience with, and I just hope they won’t be as terribly lonely as I was growing up. The first person to call them “nigger” won’t care that they’re light, or that their father is white.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 3:55 pm ¶
Brigitte wrote:

quote: Uh, did it not occur to any of you that Garcelle must be/is mixed-race?!

She’s not mixed race but it doesn’t really matter. I know plenty of people who are biracial but appear to be one race. That’s just genetics, it’s a crapshoot.

All those posts do is remind me that ignorance is still alive and well and the Internet has given a “voice” to any dumbass with a keyboard.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 3:57 pm ¶
china blue wrote:

Ugh. The level of debate on that site infrequently rises above ‘cesspit’.

Sad to see that the racism without is, sometimes, nothing compared to the racism within.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 4:06 pm ¶
deb wrote:

Maybe I’m missing something, so I’ll ask what are you trying to get at? Is the issue the frequency of “white-looking” bi-racial women on Jet’s cover or the novelty of the way they are being presented?

Sewere, on each cover I mentioned, these are women with no discernable/obvious mixed-heritage. In each case, there’s no husband/mate, as well. If these women have white mates, that’s fine. Why not make it a nuclear family photo op? It’s almost as if the magazines are alluding a single black mother paradigm.

Or, are they are exploiting the notion of hybrid vigor? I really don’t know.

Oh. And my reaction to the photo of Mimi’s dad had nothing to do with his hair or pose. Again, I seriously thought it was a picture of Mimi all grown up. (At the site where I saw the picture, folks were asking, “Where’s the husband?”)

jd, the baby who looks “scared” is the blue-eyed one. The other baby does not have blue eyes. In case it doesn’t appear obvious to viewers, it’s mentioned in the story. The cynic in me thinks that baby Jaid was strategically positioned for this purpose. I have a hunch that all eyes go straight to him. Mine did.

Perhaps I shouldn’t feel cynical about these covers. They do reflect society’s multi-racial reality. I mean, do we ever see mainstream white publications showing White women with their black-looking children on them?

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 4:48 pm ¶
DivergentDana wrote:

“Why is there so much hate anger in black women?”

*struggling to get out from under heavy blanket statement*

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 5:40 pm ¶
LH wrote:

I’m hopeful that her children are raised to appreciate who they are: mixed race. They aren’t black or white and neither Beauvais-Nilon, her children nor anyone who is mixed race should be forced to ‘pick a side.’

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 5:58 pm ¶
Enna wrote:

Orville : not saying your posts are bad, but Cameron Diaz is not white. She’s actually part Cuban and Native american.

On another note…..I don’t believe necessarily that she’s going to raise her twins to be ‘black’ (I suppose you mean in the Stereotypical way) … I hope she will address both cultures for these twins to learn from. Knowledge on your background is important for your identity.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 6:13 pm ¶
Enna wrote:

Pardon my comments before, ignore the stereotypical comment, I understand now.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 6:14 pm ¶
Sewere wrote:

Alyssa said,

Why is there so much hate anger in black women?

What DivDiva said plus the first idiot to make a racist comment on that post was a person who identified as a black man. Subsequent statements were made by black men “having our women taken from us”…. Mixing anti-white racism with a liberal amount of sexism against black women.

But don’t let the facts get in the way of your ridiculously skewed perspective.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 6:29 pm ¶
Sewere wrote:

Deb, Thanks for clarifying

Perhaps I shouldn’t feel cynical about these covers. They do reflect society’s multi-racial reality. I mean, do we ever see mainstream white publications showing White women with their black-looking children on them?

As we say in Nigerian pidgin, Na truth you talk (You hit the nail on he head).

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 6:39 pm ¶
Sean wrote:

Tasha, thanks for the clarification. That’s unfortunate if what you say about Kim is true. However, that site also has a story about Sharr Jackson (from “Moesha”?) gushing about Kevin Fenderline (Britney Spears ex) being a stand-up guy. A similar sentiment was expressed by black men that this guy exemplifies some of the worst stereotypical traits supposedly embodied by black men and gets praised for it. Apparently, the local newspaper even wondered where Sharr’s self-esteem was.

After looking at that site, I’m left with the overall impression that it’s dreck. A lot of celeb speculation that’s not worth the bandwith it wastes. Apparently it’s also unmoderated, so it seems to be more akin to the wild west than any sort of intellectual discourse.

No thanks, I’ll pass….

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 6:45 pm ¶
Andre wrote:

hey do people know of black people having white babies. Both, both black parents getting kids that look completely white, because both their European genes dominated for the offspring. How do you know she did it with a white man? People need to learn some biology, that’s all I gotta say, or just shutup completely. Anyways, pigmentation is only seen later on in life, for children. I looked like a complete white, chinese baby when I was born. now if you look at me, you’d think I was a black man. So, all this talk is garbage. What does it matter if they are white? The mother will most likely teach them to respect all people , regardless of color of skin. Sometimes , I think its black people who want racism to stay. I kind of understand them, and their point. There isn’t much black love or unity, being promoted these days, but that doesn’t mean you have to be standoffish, or hostile. It isn’t getting anyone anywhere.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 9:13 pm ¶
Andre wrote:

Here is a topic on onedroprule.org about black people having completely white babies.

http://onedroprule.org/about1567-0-asc-0.html

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 9:16 pm ¶
dt wrote:

@tasha - Kim Kardashian is an Armenian, and like other people of Near Eastern and Middle Eastern descent, we Armenians are on a racial borderline - in most of Europe we are not considered White, and in Russia we’re actually called “Blacks” and are routinely beat and killed by neo nazi gangs, I’m afraid. I just pulled up pictures of Kim and she definitely has distinctly non-European qualities, and I think that’s perhaps the reason of it.

What’s really interesting about the near/middle east as a racial borderline is that two of the terms that are used synonymously with White are “Caucasian” and “Aryan” - the Caucasuses are in the near east (partially in Europe) and the true Caucasian people are Armenians, Azeris, Georgians, Turks… “Aryans” are originally Indo-Iranians and the true Aryans are from Iran, not Germany. So even the terms that Whites use to describe their own heritage have been appropriated from people who are seen by many to be people of color.

Of course, as if being an Armenian were confusing enough, my mother is a Black Jamaican, so back to the topic on hand, even if these kids don’t develop any African features (and there’s still plenty of time and plenty of features that aren’t captured by a picture. Those kids might end up growing proud African hair, for instance, and if they do I hope they don’t press it to make it resemble European hair, like their mom) they still will never be “White” because you can bet that they’ll still get called all sorts of awful things by racists. The one drop rule is alive and well in the US. If they decide to try to pass, especially with a famous mom, they will have to work hard and even then they will find that they can lose their whiteness when things get rough. And if they decide to try to pass, they’ll have to actively deny half of their family, and that’s neither easy nor fun, and anyone actively doing that and working hard to maintain “white” status inherently is on borrowed time and is not enjoying true white privilege.

To a large extent, white power groups are most afraid of us mixed people, because we are the racially ambiguous people that they often call “mud people” so on and so forth.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 9:32 pm ¶
Orville wrote:

In America Cameron Diaz is marketed as a white woman and viewed as a white American. You can call Diaz a white Hispanic but she doesn’t market herself to the Hispanic community. Jennifer Lopez, Salma Hayek, are marketed to Hispanics but Diaz is viewed as a blonde hair, white skinned actress.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:26 pm ¶
Orville wrote:

Also Cuban is not a race it is a nationality there are black Cubans and also white Cubans.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 10:26 pm ¶
michael wrote:

“Orville : not saying your posts are bad, but Cameron Diaz is not white. She’s actually part Cuban and Native american.”

Cuban doesn’t mean “not white”, but only speaks to a nationality. Let’s get real here, Cameron is considered nothing but white in America, and Hollywood. She’s been sold that way from day one.

Posted 28 Mar 2008 at 11:30 pm ¶
Michelle wrote:

Tasha!

That was an excellent breakdown of the Kardashian phenomenon! All I could muster was something very inarticulate!

Thanks!

and, not to gossip, but didn’t she get implants? I mean booty implants? I heard that it is a big procedure, on the low, of course.

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 12:24 am ¶
blackberry wrote:

I stopped reading bossip, right after they dissed Ms. Angelou. They have stooped as low as perez Hilton, now that’s sayin somethin.

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 1:12 am ¶
london(2) wrote:

my son is of mixed heritage an is clearly so.. my best friend’s son is of mixed heritage and is not clearly so.. in the old days he could ‘pass’ as white..
my father looks mixed (i learned to count using his freckles…aaaw!) and has two black parents..
where i live in london mixed heritage children are more and more the norm… and thank goodness they are happy kids because when i was growing up these kids were not ‘trusted’ by either side…
obama has navigated through, these kids in london do so and so will garcelle’s kids with their parents love and guidance..
it’s hard enough to be young these days without making the formative years of these kids any harder…

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 3:36 am ¶
Haji wrote:

First off many black folks know that there are lighter skinned black people who do pass as white. A majority of them they chose to do so because at some point they encountered rejection from the black community, similar to what happened at ‘bossip’. This country desperately needs to ‘wake up.’ White men and black women have been making babies since this country was founded (insert james madison or jefferson reference here) and in the case of my ancestors; approximately twenty four years prior. If these children self identify as black, why can’t we embrace them? Would we reject our own racially mixed ancestors for looking too white or too black? I think not.

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 8:57 am ¶
Orville wrote:

Karrine Steffans I know this won’t be PC but I don’t have a problem with Karrine writing her books. In fact, girlfriend has a right to make her money she’s telling the truth about some of these rappers. Not one rap artist or black male celebrity has sued Karrine. I say more power to her. She’s on the New York Times best seller list with two best sellers.

If Kim was a black girl that starred in a pornographic movie I just don’t believe the black media would be so positive. In fact, I think the black media would of judged Kim much more harshly if she was African American. The reason Kim gets a lot of press in the black media is because she’s a white girl that has a predilection for black men. And for some black heterosexual men they like to boast because an attractive white woman finds a black man appealing. But is this really a big deal? Is this a surprise? People are sexually attracted to other people. I think the reason Kim gets press is because in Hollywood there seems to be a reticence of Hollywood acknowledging white female celebrities being involved with black men. And maybe the black heterosexual men are so fascinated by Kim because she’s a pretty white girl?

The black heterosexual men are treating Kim like a fetish in a way because she has so called “black female attributes” she has the big behind, wide hips, that black heterosexual men love they also love her white skin. So black heterosexual men are treating Kim as though she is “exotic”. At least this is my theory. Because I wonder what’s so great about Kim anyway? What has she done to deserve so much media attention? She’s starred in a porn movie with Brandy’s pathetic younger brother Ray J. Ray J is just an opportunist and so is Kim.

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 9:40 am ¶
deb wrote:

That Essence cover I mentioned above reminded me of a documentary I saw in the 90s called A Question of Color. Now, I know why! The woman who made the documentary is the same “white” woman I saw on the cover of that issue! Her name is Kathe Sandler.

She recalls that “Essence put her and her mother on the cover for a Mother’s Day issue, and that they received hate mail for putting a white woman on the cover. ” Funny thing is, Sandler’s sister Eve was cropped out of the photo. (I guess Essence wasn’t feeling Eve’s phenotype.)

I’ve got to get my hands on this documentary
again.

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 11:31 am ¶
Kat wrote:

“The comments on Bossip.com are immature but black women seem to be treated more harshly for marrying outside of the black race. At least this is just my personal opinion. In fact, on Bossip.com they make a big deal if a black male celebrity dates a white actress. For instance, the new rumor is P Diddy or whatever that guy calls himself is going out with Cameron Diaz. However, if a black woman is dating a white man or married to a white man or has a child with a white man she is scorned. It is a total double standard.”

That is definately true and goes for every race and every type of interracial relationship. I have a friend (white) whose last two boyfriends have both been mixed race (black by default) and she’s heard so much shit about “liking black guys” while her past boyfriends only heard the occasional comment, and it was usually a compliment. Most of it is just sexism and the belief that women are property for men. My friend is gorgeous, and so many white male “friends” made sarcastic and disparaging remarks about her dating black men, and much of it was just sexist and obvious jealous anger. A favorite was “I know why she likes black guys” (hint hint well endowed) so people could get the extra punch of calling her a slut, even though she had long term, serious relationships with these men and cared about them deeply. It’s assumed women have the responsibility of giving men sex and carrying on their genes, so how dare they do that for men who aren’t “their own?”
Unfortunately, it’s obvious even other women have these beliefs about women owing men something, and women don’t “owe” anything to men outside their own race. I feel like the belief that women are giving up something valuable to someone outside their community when they date outside their race is probably a little stronger in the black community, for understandable but still unfair reasons.

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 12:09 pm ¶
jazmin wrote:

I honestly dont understand the fuss over kim k.. oh wait yes i do like orville said she was blessed with “black features” and lets not forget her “beautiful pale skin” (im joking here lol”. But in reality the skin was home grown, her booty was NOT. Here’s a before and after if you all don’t believe me. http://plasticsergeant.com/home/celebrity/surgery/kim-kardashian–butt-implants

As I’ve discussed with my own brother time and time again many black women will have her same features and they wont be made a fuss over but let a white woman get them and now all of a sudden their on the to get list (think angelina jolie).. I call it bullsh*t.

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 3:34 pm ¶
jazmin wrote:

Regarding Garcelle.. I really wonder how sick racism has gotten people to want them to attack two beautiful innocent children, wth

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 3:40 pm ¶
jvansteppes wrote:

I’ll save my ire for Angelina Jolie…

Posted 29 Mar 2008 at 8:25 pm ¶
A.D. Powell wrote:

Regardless of whether she TRIES to raise the twins as “black,” they WILL have the option to identify as multiracial or mixed-white (which makes a lot more sense) and forgo all that black racial hatred and jealousy.

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 2:06 am ¶
Fejack wrote:

Once again, the mistake people are making is expecting Garcelle to behave like an African American since she is “black”.

Garcelle is ethnically Haitian. She was born in Haiti to a lawer (the father) and a nurse, the latter raising her in Massachusetts after the parent’s divorce. Haitians have a strong sense of cultural and linguistic identity so it is very unlikely that one gives it all up to adopt another culture on the base of skin color.

We know that both her parents pursued higher education, that she has been a high-profile model and that she has a successful acting career; so it doesn’t seem like she desperately needed to marry a lighter-skinned person to climb up the social ladder.

Garcelle’s choice in marriage shouldn’t be analyzed according to African American culture, but according to her own cultural identity, which might or might not be strictly Haitian. That’s her call.

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 11:08 am ¶
ChelB wrote:

I agree with what Jazmin posted about Garcelle. It is sad to see people so overly concerned about how someone else’s children look! : ( I personally think her twins are simply adorable. The little babies just got here and people are already being hateful towards them because of what they look like..it’s NOT like they had some say in the matter! They are innocent babies. THINK people…THINK!
Geez…I wonder what people are going to say about Halle Berry’s new little baby daughter? This is posted by an African-American woman whose husband is biracial…Filipino/Russian, by the way.

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 11:19 am ¶
Sewere wrote:

Kat,

Co-sign completely. Racialized sexism thrives in every community and the history behind the resistance to interracial relationships is different for each community. Rachel Sullivan wrote her dissertation on the topic and posted excerpts here.

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 12:17 pm ¶
Sewere wrote:

Crap, hit post too quickly.

I wanted to add that Rachel’s piece was just on black-white relationships. Other discussions have focused on white-asian relationships (here on racialicious, on addicted to race, by Jenn at reappropriate and C.N. Le at asian-nation.org)

There are more detailed discussions on the various types of interracial relationships out there but this is all I have for now.

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 12:46 pm ¶
Sewere wrote:

Regardless of whether she TRIES to raise the twins as “black,” they WILL have the option to identify as multiracial or mixed-white (which makes a lot more sense) and forgo all that black racial hatred and jealousy.

That’s A.D. Powell in a nutshell, always ready to offer a skewed view of racism. Blacks hold the hegemony of racism against people of mixed heritage so it makes sense for folks to embrace their white side. Yes, blacks are the ones who came up with the one-drop rule.

I’d go into more detail about how other communities exhibit racism against people of mixed heritage within their communities but it would be a waste of time and energy engaging you and your (non)sense.

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 1:00 pm ¶
tasha wrote:

@Sean and dt

And we peel back another layer of the Kim K controversy. (See Sean. Kim K= Loaded Topic) Usually it starts off with someone saying, “Kim’s white.” Then someone else says, “No she’s not. She’s Armenian.” At which point, bickering and hilarity are sure to ensue. Usually, people (mostly Kim stans “stalker-fans”) on the black gossip blogs, who go out of their way to point out that Kim is not white but Armenian, typically aren’t trying to give others a history or geography lesson like “dt” (comment #41). Rather, they point that out to try to gain solidarity for Kim K as a woman of color, sort of like saying that Cameron Diaz isn’t white; she’s Cuban. You know, as if by saying that Kim is Armenian, we’ll somehow forget that she is being marketed to black and mainstream media as a white/whitish woman with stereotypically black, female attributes. If you go to a site like Jezebel.com, you’ll see many comments from the site’s mostly white, female audience praising Kim K for making curvy physiques stylish again. Now, while there have always been black female pinups in the urban/ black/hip-hop market, with her body type, the Jezebel audience doesn’t refer to those women as taste makers, most likely because they (white women) don’t know their (black pin-ups) names, and they don’t relate to them because they are black. However, those Jezebel bloggers identify with Kim Kardashian because they don’t consider her as something “other” than white, regardless of how non-white her Armenian heritage supposedly makes her. And in trying to pass off Kim K as a woman of color, black media and a lot of black men are trying to rationalize her appeal and reconcile with the idea of using media targeted towards blacks to glorify white women (you know, given America’s well known history of racism and perpetuating Eurocentric beauty standards and all).

@Sewere

Wait, is this THEE A.D. that I’ve heard about, in passing, around here?

@A.D. Powell

And the truth comes out. So I guess we really should be impressed with Garcelle’s twins, huh? Not only is their skin shiny and white, but they have the option of not identifying as black too (Sweet). So while I may have had some doubts before, now I know they’re special. I mean, like, whoa! Those two might grow up to impress people with the sheer magnitude of their bi-raciality, like Obama! In fact, after I finish typing this, I’m going to prostrate myself in front of my i-phone and pay proper homage. You’re exactly right A.D., it would make so much more sense for them not to identify as black because look at those two, they’re clearly above it. Like OMG! Black people all such frickin’ jealous haters anyway, so I totally see where you’re coming from as to why they shouldn’t identify as anything other multi racial or mixed race-white.

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 1:51 pm ¶
Kaonashi wrote:

Ugh.

UGH!

There is not one bit of any of this that does not make me sick. These are BABIES. On the other hand, Bossip has never been know for common sense.

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 5:14 pm ¶
ANN wrote:

Regarding Kim Kardashian…

Why do so many people insist that she is white? As dt stated, Kim is Armenian, which for all intensive purposes is not European as Armenia is not located in Europe (and as a side fact, her father, the late Robert Kardashian was one of OJ Simpsons lawyers and best friends. You can see him in the shot when the court reads OJ’s verdict of “not guilty”. He was the dude with the glasses standing in front of OJ). We can get into the ethnic specifics, but for the most part, Kim K is not white.

And IT IS sad that so many people are dogging Garcelle and her adorable twin boys. People seem to forget that she was already once married to a black man (not that it matters, but calls of her being a “sell-out” make no sense) and has a teenaged black son.

And about Bossip. I have to admit that while pure trash, I do visit there for some jokes (and I’m still a twentysomething university student). But as of late, I’ve been noticing their posts are getting increasingly offensive and disrespectful. I stoped laughing when they started having a weekly post intitled, “Coon of the Week”. As Bossip would say, SMH (shakes my head).

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 6:52 pm ¶
aka lynn wrote:

Powell’s mindset is rather twisted. It humors me on how she manically attempts to re-write history.

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 10:23 pm ¶
jazmin wrote:

on the contrary Sewere, slave holding WHITES were the ones who came up with the one drop rule. It was made so that the ancestry went through the mother instead of the father. For them, if a child was born from a black mother if even the father was white, that child was considered black too. Also even if a slave was of mostly white ancestry and just of a small portion of african ancestry, that would STILL be considered black and they had no chance of freedom. It was basically a way to ensure that they kept producing slaves. So even if as you say many blacks agree with the one drop rule, they were NOT the ones who invented it. Also from MY own experience the black folks that I know viewed biracials and multiracials as folks of mixed ancestry, but many whites on the other hand only viewed them as just BLACK

Posted 30 Mar 2008 at 11:48 pm ¶
DivergentDana wrote:

I’m pretty sure that Sewere’s being sarcastic, jazmin.

Posted 31 Mar 2008 at 6:44 am ¶
Fiqah wrote:

APPALLING. Are we still THIS color-struck? Ms.Beauvais is lovely, and her babies are adorable…and for the record, because they are babies, unable to defend themselves against racist commentary. These are BABIES, for fuck’s sake! SIGH. Anyway - @dnA: The “Black Power” fist thing. CLASSIC. You made my day.

Posted 31 Mar 2008 at 9:43 am ¶
Sewere wrote:

@Tasha

Wait, is this THEE A.D. that I’ve heard about, in passing, around here?

None other.

they have the option of not identifying as black too (Sweet)…..Like OMG! Black people all such frickin’ jealous haters

Now that was sarcasm. Priceless.

@ Divergent Diva

Thanks sis.

Posted 31 Mar 2008 at 12:26 pm ¶
aaron wrote:

@tasha

kim kardashian is armenian, german, and irish. to put it succinctly, she is mixed. pointing this out is not “rationalizing”– it’s stating a basic fact about someone. there’s a difference between being white and mixed– you know, just like there’s a difference between fact and opinion.

yes, i find kim kardashian attractive. but, like her, i am mixed, so i guess it’s okay for me to find her hot? i don’t know– you tell me.

although, i do love the irony of someone spreading misinformation about someone else’s ethnic heritage on a blog about, um, racial and ethnic sensitivity.

Posted 31 Mar 2008 at 3:32 pm ¶
Kaonashi wrote:

For some of us who know how to look past things like skin tone (which some people apparently have a lot of problems doing) and hair, the twins DO resemble their mother…especially the one on the right.

Posted 31 Mar 2008 at 5:05 pm ¶
Stephen Martin wrote:

Jet magazine eats this stuff up. Jet Magazine has always been the unofficial “Enquirer” of the black world and don’t let a black woman give birth to fair skinned, light eyed kids…ooooh shit! You don’t think “Jet” won’t run with that? Will TMZ do a story on Paris Hilton? Britney? Jet has been doing this forEvah! Wait until Halley Berry and Nicole Richie’s kids start growing up “Without Soul” as “Jet” would put it.

Signed,
Whew!

Posted 31 Mar 2008 at 6:44 pm ¶
lynne wrote:

Dear Racialicious:
(that’s a real Black blog name if I ever heard one) The twins are cute.
Since they are just babies, as they get older, their skin color, etc will probably change over time. Most Black people have European or Indian Blood AND most children change over time.
My family tree is all of the above.
Up until the time I was three I had very light skin, green veins running though my head, red hair and green eyes. So did my brother. When we got older, we got darker, eyes changed to brown.
My gorgeous sister was born brown.
And the slave holding whites?
Yes, they came up with the one drop makes you black rule. That way, they could sale people who had a “black blood.”
Its all about the mighty dollar people.
If you think Blacks were powerless then, uh back in the day….
People that looked “white enough” started passing for white to escape what Black people were putting up with: HATE.
All this racial hatred started way back then and before then.
The gene game thing, you can come out looking like almost anything or anybody.
most likely show their dominate dna.
As someone else stated, these blogs bring out the worse in people. But not in defense of the hatred shown to Ms. G., I must state with the way Blacks are treated in America and with race continuing to be what Amerikkka is all about, sadly, I don’t expect it to get any better. But on that note, people should be allowed to be with who they want to be with, in peace.
Some of the slop on here and bossip is fucking sickening.

Posted 31 Mar 2008 at 7:29 pm ¶
tasha wrote:

@Aaron

So, by your saying that you are “mixed,” am I to assume that you possess black ancestry and that you are taking issue with my likening the identifying of Kim’s Armenian heritage on black gossip sites to the pointing out of Cameron Diaz’s Cuban heritage or Angelina Jolie’s Native American heritage when some suggests that they are not white? You know, cause I don’t want to jump to any conclusions, before at least attempting to fully read and understand your comments, like I suspect you’ve done with mine.

Posted 31 Mar 2008 at 7:36 pm ¶
aka lynn wrote:

I really cannot comprehend why we’d even address the overt ignorance of a scandal/ gossip blog. The comment section is a clear display of the type of people bossip attracts. I find the babies beautifu, and as far as the children establishing identity; how about human? After all, are any of us of so called racially pure stock? Does race really exist? yadda…yadda…yadda.

Powell appears to display extreme discomfort when it comes to black ancestry and black identified people, and sadly her stance is the product of the racism and colorism that still permeates our world. Why challenge anyone biracial or multi-racial that choses to accept their black ancestry? without such blood running through their veins, how would that person come to be? Without the blood of the European running through their veins, how would that person come to be?

How can you challenge the one drop rule that states a mixed race individual cannot be considered white, and yet at the same time try to promote it with the belief that a mixed race individual is too good to be considered black., and should therefore be identified as white …Yawn.

On my family tree we range from the palest white to the darkest shade of brown. Society has influenced a divide for few, but the majority of us come together as family able to celebrate all of our ancestry and contributions.

Try accepting and embracing “ALL OF WHO YOU REALLY ARE!”

Posted 31 Mar 2008 at 10:35 pm ¶
MistaO wrote:

To be quite honest, ebony and jet are infamous in the Black community for this type of IR promotion. Now being real, it’s of no consequence to me if someone is on this slant.

I just find it odd that these two “publications” have been up to this mess for years. IMHBO if they purport to be “Black” centered periodicals; they should be promoting Black on Black love!

Lord knows we need much more of that rather than IR promotions. There are plenty of publications with this as the core focus.

Posted 01 Apr 2008 at 8:56 am ¶
aka lynn wrote:

Garcelle is a woman of color regardless of her relationship choices, she has as much right as Will and Jada to proudly display her family on the cover of Ebony and Jet magazine. In one breath some are complaining that she strayed away from her blackness by marrying and loving white, and in the next she’s lost her black card and shouldn’t be on the cover of black owned and operated magazines. Give Me A BREAK people!!! …Sigh. What is the color of love?

With stats claiming that 70% of all black women are single, we should all be glad that Garcelle has found her Mister right!

Posted 01 Apr 2008 at 10:48 am ¶
Natalie wrote:

It’s such a shame that rather than celebrating this woman for bringing forth life she gets hated on for having biracial twins. Sometimes people amaze me with their bigotry. Ugh

Posted 01 Apr 2008 at 11:58 am ¶
deb wrote:

Jet magazine eats this stuff up.

Stephen Martin maybe you remember the cover with Deniece Williams! Wonder if (Beyonce’s sis) Solange was on the cover with her baby boy?

Posted 01 Apr 2008 at 2:13 pm ¶
Abu Sinan wrote:

The strong “German genes” made me laugh. Being a white guy of German extraction married to an Arab lady I have heard that one myself.

My wife says she often thinks that when she is out with the boys that people will think she is the maid because they look so white.

I think it is sad that people want to force multiiracial kids into choosing one side or the other. I think it is just as sad when multiracial kids buy into it and reject one side or the other.

I hope my boys are equally at home feeling either Arab/German or both.

Posted 01 Apr 2008 at 2:18 pm ¶
Well Noted wrote:

Donna Summer has stated on more than one occasion that she only dates white guys…and has described them as the Nordic Aryan type. Even in her biography, she states her preference for white guys. (”Preference” is a politically correct word.)

Garcelle’s career was going nowhere, and she suddenly marries this white guy…so of course, the slavery notion was going to come up about prostituting yourself to the highest bidder, and yes, that does happen. Just because you are in an interracial relationship doesn’t mean you can’t be prejudiced or filled with self hatred.

Posted 01 Apr 2008 at 3:35 pm ¶
DivergentDana wrote:

But well noted, in light of a complete dearth of evidence that Garcelle has “sold herself to the highest bidder”, it makes no sense that it would “come up.” And you know good and well that blacks that marry white at the pinnacle of their careers are tagged with the “white trophy/thinks they’re too good to take a black spouse with him or her to the top/white spouse wouldn’t be with him or her if they were broke” thing, so it’s often lose-lose in the eyes of the peanut gallery when it comes to IRs. A lot of people are biased against IRs, no matter what the truth about the individuals involved really is, and will always vote “self-hater” when given a forum. And what word besides “preference” would you deem more appropriate?

Posted 01 Apr 2008 at 11:56 pm ¶
Jenn wrote:

I saw read some of those blogs and people were going on and on about how the kids would look when they got older. I couldn’t believe they could care enough to analyze genetics, which is stupid anyway b/c biracial people come in so many different shades & hair types and especially considering many blacks don’t know if they are already multi racial themselves so their kids may look more white

Posted 02 Apr 2008 at 9:15 am ¶
Jenn wrote:

I have a question to pose. I am black and I don’t understand this. Why is it that some blacks accuse IR relationship blacks of being sell outs and put their children down for having identity issues. And at the same time putting the kid on a pedalstal talking about how beautiful they are and how “good”their hair is? Most of the more recent black beauty icons are biracial. Most of the singers are now too.

Posted 02 Apr 2008 at 9:38 am ¶
DivergentDana wrote:

Hypocrisy, plain and simple… and when called on it, they’ll often fall back on ODR and claim “at least ____’s black.”

Posted 02 Apr 2008 at 11:11 pm ¶
Michelle wrote:

Well, Jenn…

I will give you a very personal example.

My grandmother was what we now call “Biracial”. At the time she was just Black. She was hated for her light skin and straight hair in her community, almost everywhere she went. One time, I called my grandmother light skinned and she went off! That term triggered many horrible memories for her.

On the other hand, she hated my nappy hair. Hated it. And when I wore it natural, all she could do was cry, moan, wring her hands and quiver with shame.

When you are taught to hate yourself, it manifests itself in many ways. Both in hating any perceived vestiges of wanting to be white, and hating the very features that make you Black. It is a very deep and painful process to come to see yourself as truly beautiful, when you have believed yourself, and everyone who looks like you to be ugly. And the hatred toward people who have what you want, the light skin, light eyes, straight hair is very real and very, very powerful.

Posted 03 Apr 2008 at 12:59 am ¶
Erika wrote:

I think those babies are adorable. What the hell differnece does it make that they are white OR light skinned ??? This society in general is too damn race and skin-color conscious. They are precious and deserves to be loved like any other children. Racism will never go away because, of ignorant and small-minded people. I have a bi-racial aunt, neices, and cousins. I love them all and could care less what they’re mixed with. People are people. The God that made us all, created us with different shades of color. However, the one thing that He made sure was the same was the color of our blood RED. So, no one is no better than the other. Folks broaden your horizons, and stop focusing on irrelevant things such as these beautiful babies.

Posted 03 Apr 2008 at 10:31 pm ¶
Softwhispers wrote:

DivergentDana wrote:

Hypocrisy, plain and simple… and when called on it, they’ll often fall back on ODR and claim “at least ____’s black.”

Posted 02 Apr 2008 at 11:11 pm ¶

Lol, so damn true.

Posted 07 Apr 2008 at 12:24 pm ¶
Eric Daniels wrote:

You will probaly ban me for this statement also about Ms. Beauvias -Nilon on her cover of Jet but ‘who cares’ Jet and Ebony has been practicing this type of “journalism” for the last 20 years. And Bossip and other Blogs are just particpating in the “interracial freakshow” of black and white couples. Diana Ross kids twins were on the cover of JET too 20 years back. Ebony and JET used to be interesting to read 25-30 years ago until they started doing great articles like “Quess who’s coming to Dinner Now” with BF/WM couples and making the same excusesfor the lack of BM suitors.

And putting Beauvis- Nilon almost white children is the same racial BS we see in mainstream news articles and shows like NBC’S state of the Black Women in America. Please just date across racial lines and satisfy your cheap racial thrills and move on with your lives because when Halle options those pictures of her and Aubry it will be worth Millions. The pictures remind me of a bad car crash and the responses on bossip are typical of the crime lines as the cops mop up the mess, in this case racial vouyerism.

I quess you will ban this one Too Carmen and Latoya.

[Mod Note: If it falls within the comment moderation policy, we see no need to delete the comment. And if a commenter is actually trying to add to the conversation instead of just spewing their viewpoint, we see no need to ban the commenter.]

Posted 07 Apr 2008 at 8:49 pm ¶
deb wrote:

I mean, do we ever see mainstream white publications showing White women with their black-looking children on them?

Guess I should eat my words? Well, it’s not exactly a mainstream publication but, nevertheless…. I just stumbled upon Grand. It’s a mag devoted to grandparents. Actress (and former Charlie’s Angel) Cheryl Ladd is on the cover with her black grandson. The baby is actually the child of Ladd’s stepdaughter, Lindsay, (whose mother is singer Brenda Russell) but still.

Posted 11 Apr 2008 at 1:17 am ¶
the Aviator wrote:

Garcelle is a woman of color regardless of her relationship choices, she has as much right as Will and Jada to proudly display her family on the cover of Ebony and Jet magazine. In one breath some are complaining that she strayed away from her blackness by marrying and loving white, and in the next she’s lost her black card and shouldn’t be on the cover of black owned and operated magazines. Give Me A BREAK people!!! …Sigh. What is the color of love?

With stats claiming that 70% of all black women are single, we should all be glad that Garcelle has found her Mister right!

———————————————–
Amen

Posted 18 Apr 2008 at 11:04 pm ¶
Niki wrote:

These comments are pure rubbish. I am the by product of a black mother and black father. My father’s mother was black and his father was mulatto white. My mother’s father is black with indian and white and black. But he is deemed black and looks black. Her mother was of black heritage. Now when I was born I had yellow eyes and could pass for white as ignorant people say. The sad thing of it is that when i was born my mom told me that the nurse would always ask her if i was her child because she was dark and I pale white. Today I have gotten my brown skin tone and when I stand next to my parents people say I look nothing like them. What is worst is that when I stand next to my brother and proudly tell people that he is my brother their mouths drop in awe because he is darker than me and I mean darker. With that I get sick of ignorant people who ask me if my parents are really my parents because they say i look mixed. Even sometimes I would have to tell them my heritage for them to understand why I am the color that I am. But have stopped telling them because its ignorant. Sure blacks come in all shades. But we have ignorance where the light skin blacks are hated on by the darker skin ones because people favor us in relationships or otherwise.
To tell you the truth, I have been married to a white guy who has blue eyes and blonde hair. Our first daughter came out light dark skin tone with normal black hair and brown eyes. Our other daughter has blonde dark hair and blue green eyes and is a past for white. Go figure on the biology of genes on that. Plus I have been seen as the nanny for the latter daughter when out with her. What is worst is that my nieces call her whitey and treat her terrible. But I teach her and the other one that they are children of a black mother and white father and that in life they would be hated on for the color of their skin when they go out into the world to make choices.
With Garcelle, I love her for who she is. She found happiness with a man regardless of his race. Why do you have to hate on her kids skin tone. In a few years one of the boys would have darker tone and the other remain light or maybe not. All that you should acknowledge her for is that she is raising her kids with pride and not a celeb who has a reputation that is scandalous.
To blacks on here that hating, you need to stop with the prejudice because your actions on here show that you would teach your kids the same attitude you have on race and therefore continue the cycle of hatred for inter–racial relationships.

Posted 23 Apr 2008 at 9:45 am ¶
jalabi wrote:

I thought ALL babies are born with blue eyes? I have a friend from Ghana, as black as the tar on the road, who was given the nickname “Blue Boy” by his dad, because when he was born, his eyes were as blue as Paul Newman’s

Regardless: those kids are seriously cute. Glad to see that they both inherited the “fine genes” from their parents I wish “Fancy” and her hubby all the very best!

Posted 27 Apr 2008 at 11:41 pm ¶
jennyb wrote:

My Lord, why does this matter? I think the shirt says on the little one, One Love! Why not one love, I am white I could have been born asian, black, mixed with a dozzen ehtic back grounds, so could any one so consider yourself lucky to be alive! Love, live, give, receive, be good, don’t hurt, don’t be hatefull. Do what is good and right, life is to short to worry about race!!! People we have no controll over what we look like, God made us all different not one dark skinned or light skinned, or white person has the exact same color we are all different looking if you want to get down to the nitty gritty we could discriminate against people who were born with not so white teeth or short teeth, this race thing should not be an issue!! Be you not your race or color of hair or weight be you!!!! I am so tired of this it sucks!!!!!

Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 10:53 am ¶
solo wrote:

I’m just guessing here but That’s sad that poor Garcelle had to put those Shirts on the babies for the photo for Jet, to show folks that babies are black also, they are mixed babies and that’s that, she must already feeling that hate may start in about how light they are. Garcelle just raise the kids up to be decent human beings. know that all good things come from the Lord.

Posted 31 May 2008 at 8:14 am ¶
Sandra wrote:

Garcelle is Haitian and her children will grow up with her Haitian culture. We Haitians are not as obsessed with race as most people are in America..

Posted 12 Sep 2008 at 10:10 pm ¶
Reader wrote:

I think her twins are beautiful. Furthermore, it seems that a lot of the comments that deride Ms. Beauvais are based on the usual double standard - when white parents adopt children from asia or africa, then it’s “cute” and “generous,” but by some weird rule of the gossip world, parents of color can’t have children with a different skin tone than theirs. It may link back to the whole “white saviour” mentality, or white man’s burden. I thought we moved past that mindset, so why can’t black parents also be “generous,” and adopt a white baby, why can’t it be the other way around and we praise black celebrities for raising a kid not of their own race (say she used donor eggs, so what) and realize that the love of a parent exceeds all race and gender lines (gasp, i guess only angelina jolie is allowed to be an “angel,” but when minorities adopt white babies they are mocked instead of awarded for being humanitarian). This comment digresses a little, but I think it’s still related to the ideas behind the post and discussion.

Posted 11 Feb 2009 at 9:42 pm ¶
Suzanna wrote:

OMG, I can not believe the negative comments and stupidity some people allow to leave their head and end up on a blog. If you had to put your faces and your name (email address) on what you write I bet you would not be so nasty and quick to judge. What does it matter how she had her babies, what colour they are or how she will raise them. These beautiful babies are prescious gifts that I am sure her and her husband will treasure and raise in the best way possible.

For those of you who are blinded by your ignorance do us and the rest of cyber world a favor - “if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all” because remaining annonymus does not give you the right to be an idiot!

Posted 12 Mar 2009 at 10:13 pm ¶
paris wrote:

those are some beautiful babies and god bless those kids to her how exciting every one is not that blessed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted 18 Apr 2009 at 9:15 am ¶