Has Class Trumped Race? Part 3.5 - An Aside

by Racialicious Special Correspondent Latoya Peterson

The blog SavvySugar recently posted about a college grad who did an experiment to prove the American Dream - he voluntarily went into “poverty” to see how quickly he could climb out.

Adam Shepard’s experience has - naturally - netted him a book deal. ABC summarizes:

But Shepard’s descent into poverty in the summer of 2006 was no accident. Shortly after graduating from Merrimack College in North Andover, Mass., he intentionally left his parents’ home to test the vivacity of the American Dream. His goal: to have a furnished apartment, a car, and $2,500 in savings within a year.

To make his quest even more challenging, he decided not to use any of his previous contacts or mention his education.

During his first 70 days in Charleston, Shepard lived in a shelter and received food stamps. He also made new friends, finding work as a day laborer, which led to a steady job with a moving company.

Ten months into the experiment, he decided to quit after learning of an illness in his family. But by then he had moved into an apartment, bought a pickup truck, and had saved close to $5,000.

The effort, he says, was inspired after reading “Nickel and Dimed,” in which author Barbara Ehrenreich takes on a series of low-paying jobs. Unlike Ms. Ehrenreich, who chronicled the difficulty of advancing beyond the ranks of the working poor, Shepard found he was able to successfully climb out of his self-imposed poverty.

He tells his story in “Scratch Beginnings: Me, $25, and the Search for the American Dream.” The book, he says, is a testament to what ordinary Americans can achieve.

Fascinating. I mean, everyone loves an American Dream story, don’t they? The interviewer from ABC News was excellent, asking really targeted questions about the validity of the experiment and how Shepard came to the conclusions he outlines in the book. By directly asking about privilege and his upbringing, the interviewer tries to shed some light into the thought process of this young man.

Shepard’s answers to the interviewer’s questions are interesting, to say the least.

Becoming a mover and living in a homeless shelter – that hadn’t been part of your life before. How much did your lifestyle actually change?

Shepard: It changed dramatically. There were simple luxuries that I didn’t afford myself. I had to make sacrifices to achieve the goals that I set out. One of those was eating out. I didn’t have a cellphone. Especially in this day and age, that was a dramatic change for me…. I was getting by on chicken and Rice-A-Roni dinner and was happy. That’s what I learned … we lived [simply], but still we were happy.

[…]

Do you need a college education?

I don’t think so. To be honest with you, I think I was disadvantaged, because my thinking was inside of a box. I have the way that I lived [in North Carolina] – and to enter into this totally new world and acclimate to a different lifestyle, that was the challenge for me.

Still, there was that safety net. Were you ever tempted to tap your past work, education, or family networks?

I was never tempted. I had a credit card in my back pocket in case of an emergency. The rule was if I used the credit card then, “The project’s over, I’m going home.”

[…]

Would your project have changed if you’d had child-care payments or been required to report to a probation officer? Wouldn’t that have made it much harder?

The question isn’t whether I would have been able to succeed. I think it’s the attitude that I take in: “I’ve got child care. I’ve got a probation officer. I’ve got all these bills. Now what am I going to do? Am I going to continue to go out to eat and put rims on my Cadillac? Or am I going to make some things happen in my life…?” One guy, who arrived [at the shelter] on a Tuesday had been hit by a car on [the previous] Friday by a drunk driver. He was in a wheelchair. He was totally out of it. He was at the shelter. And I said, “Dude, your life is completely changed.” And he said, “Yeah, you’re right, but I’m getting the heck out of here.” Then there was this other guy who could walk and everything was good in his life, but he was just kind of bumming around, begging on the street corner. To see the attitudes along the way, that is what my story is about.

Now, on one hand, we can understand what Shepard is trying to get at in the book. Social mobility is possible in this country with hard work and determination. To Shepard, he was able to apply himself and lift himself out of poverty - a simple function of implementing and executing a plan.

However, Shepard’s analysis is flawed for many reasons. One of which is that he does not take into account any of his privileges which may have worked in his favor. Being an able bodied male - and being considered for the more lucrative, quick cash turn around day labor jobs - is one of them.

The second is that Shepard is able to enter a form of poverty that isn’t real. It’s poverty without the baggage - knowing you have a warm home to return to, good credit, and a college degree in the event that you can’t hack it on the lowest levels of society. As a person newly out of poverty and into the middle class, he just doesn’t have the baggage I carry. Most notably, he doesn’t have that fear that comes with being poor and knowing how close you are to being on the street. That fear is what drives me - and that fear manifests in the form paralysis to many of those who I knew that did not make it out of poverty. Being free of the emotional baggage of poverty is an amazing thing. I hope to be free of it myself someday.

Finally, the comparison to Barbara Ehrenreich’s Nickled and Dimed rings a bit hollow to me. Ehrenreich took on a number of jobs in a few different areas and provided her own experiences and the experiences of the other workers. She accurately documents the fear that comes from being in poverty and the financial constraints that leave people trapped into a certain position. I will go and check out Scratch Beginnings whenever my library obtains a copy, but it appears that Shepard set out to quickly throw down roots and eke out an existence - he was not concerned with what most people want, which is a quality life of their own choosing.

I am currently working on the last part of the Race and Class series, but in the meantime, what do you think of Shepard’s experiment? Do you think he would have been able to do this so easily if he was a different race or gender?

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Comments

  1. lunanoire wrote:

    It’s part of Obama’s campaign, but I don’t think that the importance of HOPE (that outweighs fear and emotional baggage) can be understated. Like you said, it is a world of difference between knowing you have a safety net and knowing you don’t. I have a friend who is worried she won’t find a decent paying job because her shyness is an impediment in job interviews, in addition to aiming for higher paying jobs, and she is privileged as a grad student.

  2. B wrote:

    Good post. I agree with your points, and also think that your earlier discussions on privilege and entitlement are extremely relevant here. Finally, I think that the proposition that the cultural capital of a college education can be erased by simply not mentioning it is absurd. His education also taught him how to talk to people in positions of authority–and get what he wanted in the process–and how to read the fine print of government/legal documents (necessary in starting a business, taking full advantage of social programs, renting an apartment, etc), and generally how to navigate middle and upper-class society–you can’t get into the club if the members don’t think you fit in.

  3. Ottermatic wrote:

    He’s an ablebodied male, and he’s also white and a US-native. And even though he didn’t talk about his education, it was probably clear from his confidence and demeanor that he was educated. He had no kids or any other dependents to worry about. And like you said - there’s a confidence that comes from privilege and entitlement. You assume that you deserve a job, a raise, an apartment, a vehicle and people react to that.

    It’s fine if he wants to engage in this experience and write about it, but to conclude that “anybody can do it!” because he happened to is ridiculous.

  4. j wrote:

    The sense of confidence and entitlement instilled by education and a middle-class upbringing count for far more than it looks like Shepard is willing to admit. One thing education does is make you aware of the variety of choices, options and possibilities available, which accounts for part of the huge difference between Shepard’s voluntary descent into poverty and what people who are born into poverty have to struggle with everyday. One thing I know from my own experience and from working with others is that it takes quite a while for people struggling in poverty to even figure out what their options *are* before even making a plan to act on those options. I also wonder how things like presumably having a middle-class affect (’good’ diction/’proper’ English, certain ways of relating to others, etc.) may have made it easier for Shepard to gain employment and maybe even higher wages. But I’ll wait for the actual book to make any judgments.

    And of course, being a single woman or a person of color living in poverty loads a person with a whole range of stereotypes, associations and fears that a white male doesn’t even have to deal with to say the least. I’m also wondering how much Shepard was getting paid as a mover to get an apartment, buy a car and still save $5000 in ten months???

  5. Cynthia wrote:

    I think gender plays a much bigger role than race in this case. Globe and Mail journalist Jan Wong did a Nickel and Dimed style study in 2006 by spending a month working in the house cleaning business As many construction and moving type jobs require strength, it isn’t usually on the top of a woman’s list for jobs. Our options tend to be serving at a restaurant, as a check out person at a supermarket or big box store (sales people jobs seem to be dominated by middle class students who “look presentable” and “like the clients who shop at the stores”), or cleaning. These jobs generally don’t pay as much as construction and seem more realistic to what poverty is really like (although Jan Wong’s kids didn’t experience the poverty angle 100%. The boys still went to their more-than$20,ooo/year tuition private school while “living in poverty” with their mother.) However, in both cases, the participants knew that they can go back to a life of privilege once the experiment was over.

  6. Christina wrote:

    As a person newly out of poverty and into the middle class, he just doesn’t have the baggage I carry.

    Seriously. Just thinking about doing this makes me want to sob in the corner. It requires a lot of privilege to face this with such equanimity in the first place.

  7. Cynthia wrote:

    Looks like the Globe and Mail links don’t link.

    To see Jan Wong’s series, go here:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/maidforamonth

  8. Autonym wrote:

    Thank you for this. I heard about this book and just wanted to cry, because I knew it would be used to explain why people should be punished for being poor. You and the commenters above bring up good points about privilege and expectations. There is no way this guy didn’t expect to succeed, as he states he had a *CREDIT CARD* in his back pocket, not lint. He had a safety net.

    I want to ask that young man if he plans to pay back the shelter where he essentially STOLE the space and energy he used. If he noticed any indications of mental illness among the men at his shelter. And lastly if he SERIOUSLY thinks that being a young white man (with obvious education) didn’t change the trajectory of his journey.

  9. Aaminah wrote:

    I second everything that has already been said…

    … and I will add in that having credit probably helped him too. He may not have mentioned his education etc., but be sure that when he went to buy a car, went to find an apartment etc. that he was privileged by not having bad credit baggage that alot of poor people have no matter how hard we try to keep on top of that.

    I’m sorry, but his entire experiment is just flawed due to being white, male, educated (as others said, that shows through whether you state it or not), aware of options, able-bodied, with English as a first language, etc. Chances are he didn’t ditch all his clothes and go to the local rummage sale to get clothes to wear; chicken & Rice-A-Roni is still a better meal than alot of people get; and yeah, totally, the mental and emotional difference of KNOWING it’s all just an experiment (game?) makes all the difference in the world.

  10. al wrote:

    it’s pretty disgusting that this guy used up some of the few resources people in real need have to do an experiment that is pretty worthless. i mean, hey, i can prove the american dream -happens-. there are lots of folks who have moved from one class to another. i could profile my parents and i wouldn’t have to drain any public resources.

    this guy makes me sick, seriously.

    on the other hand, though, great article!

  11. Wendi Muse wrote:

    this guy’s work makes me wonder…where are all the critics of welfare and government aid fraud? given, it’s one guy, but still. in place of his experiment, someone could have had food on their table.

  12. Matt wrote:

    Interesting to note that racismreview touches on this today.

    “Newman also found that one-third of her subjects were either still unemployed or working for minimum wage, and that the decisive factor for the success stories was whether they belonged to families who could support them (or whether they didn’t need to support a family themselves). In other words, personal agency had little to do with it.”

    http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=172

  13. Sistah wrote:

    Interesting post. Thanks for sharing.

    It would be interesting to repeat this experiment with a POC from an upper to middle class upbringing and a POC from a family with little wealth. I’ll bet if we compared those results to what’s described in this book, we’d have a much clearer picture of what’s most important.

  14. Cynthia wrote:

    Sistah,

    See my post with the link on Jan Wong’s experiment of going into poverty. Ms. Wong is Chinese Canadian.

  15. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    Oh, and I forgot.

    Shepard made up a story of having a parent addicted to drugs and another alcoholic parent. However, dealing with these kinds of issues with your relatives is not conducive to the type of environment he created for himself.

    He only had to take care of himself. He didn’t have a real drug addict dad, calling him from random places, threatening to kill himself, stealing his money/identity and he doesn’t have an alcholic mom who he was afraid to leave for fear she would hurt herself. So, there’s that as well.

    Family plays a large role in success if they are supportive or unsupportive.

  16. Amye wrote:

    Hi, long time reader, first time poster here, wondering if Shepard has ever heard Pulp’s “Common People”. I think this particular lyric sums up my feelings best:

    Rent a flat above a shop, cut your hair and get a job.
    Smoke some fags and play some pool, pretend you never went to school.
    But still you’ll never get it right
    ‘cos when you’re laid in bed at night watching roaches climb the wall
    If you call your Dad he could stop it all.

  17. dawn wrote:

    His experiment frustrated me because you’re right — it’s a totally different experience to pretend to be poor than to actually BE poor. I’m concerned that his experiment will just fortify conservative ideals about Horatio Alger stories. I’ve got a post on my blog from a zillion years ago that illustrates the stuff that goes way beyond attitude. I hope this isn’t spam-y but I think of this client every time I hear stories like this:
    http://thiswomanswork.com/2002/08/13/shelter-portrait-1-or-why-im-a-democrat/

  18. Faith wrote:

    Cynthia made an excellent point about gender. Pink collar jobs don’t pay as much as blue collar ones. Also, having a safety net means you can negotiate for a better salary and walk away if the terms are unacceptable to you. The freedom to quit a job keeps you from being exploited.

  19. Aja wrote:

    I think Shepard betrays his true intent with this:

    “Am I going to continue to go out to eat and put rims on my Cadillac? Or am I going to make some things happen in my life…?”

    That statement is dripping with disdain. I don’t think his experiment was meant to uplift people or make them believe in the “American Dream”, I think it was meant to point a finger at people and say “I did it, why can’t you?” That’s hardly anything new.

  20. Nadra wrote:

    Instead of Shepard’s book, I would recommend reading Honky by Dalton Conley. As a child, Conley, now a sociologist, lived in the projects with his middle-class white parents. They chose to do so because they were artistic types. Anyway, Conley does a good job explaining the privileges he had in the projects as a white male versus the experiences of the black and Latino families who resided there.

  21. Eva wrote:

    There is a difference between generational and situational poverty. What Shepard experienced was situational. If a middle class person loses their job, they will have the skills, knowing how to speak to people, knowing which outfits to wear to a job interview, knowing how to interview period. A middle class person in the US is born on third base, where a generationally poor person is born on first base; which is closer to home?

  22. Black Canseco wrote:

    Shepard sentiments still represents the bulk of White America’s, I’d say.

    “Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get over it.”

    Don’t know that I need to read his book in order to learn that message. But don’t worry…

    No doubt there’ll be a TV movie coming—stacked to the brim with Oliver Twist/Horatio Alger tones.

    God bless the red white and blue.

  23. Michelle wrote:

    Remember in Soul Man when James Earl Jones asks C. Thomas Howell, “So, I guess you think you know what it is to be Black now, huh?” And he replies, “No sir, because I could always go back.”

    Hmmm…I think that you could insert poor there to the same effect.

  24. David Wynn wrote:

    First, if anyone hasn’t read the book yet, you can download a pdf for free from the Get Rich Slowly post interviewing Shepard. I’m working through it myself right now.
    http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/02/18/scratch-beginnings-an-interview-with-adam-shepard/

    Now, I have a hard time figuring out what to think about this book, and I think I’m going to stand on some weird middle ground. On the one hand, I believe the fear of being on the streets and the day to day life of poverty is real and extremely strong. However, I think Shepard’s whole point was to exemplify that that is not the whole picture. Potential does exist, and hard work and a plan can pay off.

    Granted, I would HATE to see this book used to cut welfare programs, but Shepard himself supports those programs, noting that they were vital in his progress. But then, I would also hate to see people completely write off the book for not acknowledging the fear and other qualities of poverty omitted in his experiment.

    Shepard’s goal is to change attitudes and outlooks. So to me, saying that other attitudes exist is not a valid counter to his point. I agree with the first comment, that the big point should be one (if possible) only of hope, but not one of blame. Adding another story of hope to the popular dialogue, so long as it’s not used as a weapon (which I haven’t heard anyone do with Shepard yet) to me, doesn’t seem like a bad thing.

  25. kd wrote:

    Most obvious of all, this is not real! “I decided to take a year of and be poor? That alone tell you it wasn’t real.”

  26. liz f wrote:

    Also, I am assuming he went into this experiment with no debt (student loan, credit card, medical bills, etc.). That would drastically alter the experience. With even 1/4th of the debt held by the average American who finds themself homeless or just below the poverty line, would this story have been the same?

  27. TierList E wrote:

    This can be an interesting start, but I would like to see this experiment repeated with different races, genders, ethnicities and economic and educational levels.

    Though now a couple of people mentioned him using resources that could have went to real people in need, and I would hate to have that keep happening, but I think the book as a stand alone is a bit pointless. But if it does give people hope and drives them to succeed then that’s great.

  28. ebogjonson wrote:

    good looking, able bodied white male takes a 10 month vacation, gets a book deal. Does anyone know what his advance was? 100k? 50? Factor that over the 10 month “experiment” and a year of writing and it’s still more the monthly salary most kids get their first year out of college. It’s certainly more than he would have earned in 5 years if he had continued living the way he was.

    Like Stuffwhitepeoplelike, this is just more affirmative action for white male mediocrity. Dude is laughing all the way to the bank, when he’s not yapping about not putting “rims on my Cadillac.”

  29. Noam wrote:

    A lot of folks have been saying how there is an important psychological distinction between being poor and pretending to be poor.

    But as some people mentioned, there is a very tangible economic reason why the experiment is flawed: the credit card in the pocket, the lack of debt, and lack of any dependents.

    Shepard says: “The rule was if I used the credit card then, “The project’s over, I’m going home.”

    If you have an emergency in real life you can’t use your credit card and go home. You go into debt. Even more so true if your parents, siblings, children, partners have an emergency. People in poverty don’t start with a clean slate. In some point in their life they had an emergency and needed to deal with it in some way other than “going home”.

    On another note, where I’m from (Israel) coming to the USA and joining the moving business is actually considered an easy way for young men to make quick money after finishing their army service. This type of employment is only accessible to (very) able-bodied men, who tend to be fairly young.

  30. NancyP wrote:

    Totally artificial. Few poor people reach adulthood without some family responsibility or debt - after all, by definition, their family of origin is poor, and likely to contain other siblings, a disabled family member, an elder, or someone else needing a contribution ffrom the able-bodied. Even if there is “only” a time obligation to a family member, that can be a hurdle to taking the best-paying job available.

    And then there’s the issue of gender (laborer jobs pay better than cleaner/janitor jobs; reluctance to hire women who may have children or may have battering man after her), race (trust level of some employers), and education/ psychology of entitlement.

  31. Liberal Arts Dude wrote:

    Hello

    I wrote a reaction to Shephard’s book that was quite critical and a very vigorous discussion ensued in my blog, with the majority of commenters coming out and defending Shephard’s book. Please feel free to visit

    http://folkpolitics.wordpress.com/2008/02/16/an-experiment-on-the-american-dream/

  32. G. D. wrote:

    Me,personally, I see what the guy was trying to prove, but of course, both his race/gender/education played a part in–he didn’t have to worry about any baggage/stereotypes being placed on him as a white male—he didn’t have to worry about not getting hired for a job because his name sounded too “black’ or ethnic, or because he didn’t live inan upscale neighborhood.

    If he really wanted to see what it’s like being straight-up for real poor, he should have tried being homeless and living in a shelter for nearly a year and a half without being able to find ANY jobs whatsoever while living in a city/state with the highest unemployment rate in the nation; getting jobs while in the shelter with private companies that may or may not actually pay you for the hours you work; members of the shelter staff who assume that because you’re in a shelter, that they don’t have to have any respect for you and can treat you like s***; the whole negative attitude about homeless people in general–the assumption that if you wind up in a shelter, you must be some damn worthless crackhead or alcoholic, when the truth is, a lot of now-homeless people wind up in the shelters due to losing their homes due to constant job layoffs from the Big Three, or because they got ripped off by predatory lenders/their house burned down or blew up due to a bad gas leak/they have no family to support them whatsoever, or anybody that gives a damn whether they exist,live or die.

    He also should have tried living in a shelter in a near-abandoned crack-infested neighborhood where you can hear gunshots on the regular and folks selling drugs dwon the street. Also living with total strangers in the shelter who have no conpunction about beating you up if you piss them off because they either: just got out of prison themselves/are dangerously mentally ill/learning how to hide even the pair of shoes you have because in a shelter anything of yours that isn’t nailed down will get stolen/not getting a new roommate almost every week or every day,worrying about whether she/he is going to be some kind of psycho or not. That would have made for one hell of an interesting book!

  33. Skeptic wrote:

    When I first heard of this college graduate turned poor - voluntarily. I laughed at the notion that somehow that the American Dream is still vibrant because of one privilege white person decided to go poor and limb out. It is ridiculous to think that his “experiement” is somehow indicative of the experience of the working poor.

    Your analysis is dead on. No matter how hard the guy trys to portray that he is not educated, he can’t turn of how he was taught to think.

  34. Celeste wrote:

    I heard this douchbag on NPR 2 weeks ago and he completely pissed me off. Nevermind the whole lack of debt, children, family obligations, mental illness, etc that he decided were superfluous to his experience. I agree with the other posters that being able to do moving work/construction is a huge advantage that a lot of poor people don’t have. Especially women! Besides being a stripper or an escort, how many jobs pay uneducated women or non- able bodied men (they can’t even strip) a wage similar to that of a moving guy? He’s so wrapped-up in the combination of male and white privileges that he can’t even empathize with those he’s attempting to help with his words of wisdom.

  35. Torontonian wrote:

    Thanks for the link, Cynthia. Jan Wong seems to do a much more decent job being aware of the privileges she has. The real maids don’t know their rights and wouldn’t know if they are being abused. Someone can threaten them and/or threaten to call the cops on them and they would believe them and comply. They can’t do math in order to budget their money. They actually internalize the social hierarchy and are bullied by the people on top.

    I like this part:

    “[Maggie] loves cleaning. She gets excited about the smell of Lavender Clean Pine-Sol. She waves a bottle under my nose and wants me to sniff it too. I decline. It contains alkyl alcohol ethoxylates and sodium xylene sulfonate. According to the fine print, if you ingest any or splash it in your eyes, call a poison-control centre immediately.”

    LOL, it’s pretty obvious that a middle-upper-class university graduate pretending to a maid isn’t really a maid. Education gives you the knowledge to recognize danger and navigate our society. A lot of what is obvious to us is not actually obvious; it’s something that we learned at a certain point in our lives.

    Also, I didn’t know poverty was that bad in Toronto. :(

  36. ryanmffjm wrote:

    Having been a regular reader of this site, I knew this guy was going to get slammed. However I think the spirit of his message is not without merit.

    I was raised by a single mother on welfare and food stamps, with hand-me-down clothes and free school lunches. I am now a college educated professional with an upper-middle-class salary if for now other reason that I refused to accept the social status quo of my upbringing. Instead I followed by own dreams and never accepted failure despite temporary setbacks at times. Is this privilege? I don’t know. Nobody ever whispered in my ear as a youth and suggested any potential future like the one I have built for myself.

    Yes some have advantages over others in this country but the beauty of the American Dream is that in the final analysis anybody can make something of themselves if they choose to do so. Nothing in Bill Clinton or Barrack Obama’s youth would suggest they would ever rise to prominence. Clinton served two terms as President of the United States. Osama is on the cusp of doing the same.

  37. EVD wrote:

    I’d like to see how he would have fared had he done the “Black Like Me” routine.
    White men just do not understand the privilege with which they move through the world.

  38. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    As always, everyone, thanks for the insightful comments.

    To address just a few comments:

    Cynthia, Dawn, Liberal Arts Dude and David - Thanks for the excellent links. I read Dawn’s and LADs this afternoon, and will read the study you linked to Cynthia and the book that is available for free David.

    ryanmffjm -

    Actually, those issues are way complicated. The biggest issue I have with Shepard is how he tries to simplify a bunch of complex factors into hard work and determination.

    The core message - having a plan and prioritizing your spending is a sound one, and I can think of people who aren’t even close to the poverty line who need to hear the message.

    However, it also doesn’t ring as true to many of us who have grown up in poverty. I’ve had a similar experience as you mentioned in your post - I turned out pretty well and I live comfortably, though I did not complete college.

    However, as I mentioned in Race & Class part 3, that was also the product of my environment, the sacrifices of others, and the fact that I was determined to succeed.

    To assume that most circumstances are alike is what gets people in trouble. Could I pull of the same experiment? Perhaps. But there are a lot more considerations for me to be (1) a woman and (2) black attempting to do the same thing. Its a different world to me. That’s where the difference is.

    A side note or two:

    I’m thinking (if Carmen allows) to spin another side post about poverty. I read a lot on many different topics and people seem to expect that the poor manage to have superhuman abilities of grit, strength and nerve in order to follow these “simple” plans to get out of poverty/obesity/back to college, etc.

    The idea of dreams is another thing that interests me, as it is a part of so many other narratives that include escaping for poverty. The whole idea is to be able to see something better (though that has downsides as well.)

    Finally, I notice something that both books - Nickeled & Dimed and Scratch Beginnings - neglect to mention. Poverty and prosperity are not permanent states. Most of the people I have seen have seen their fortunes change and flip a dozen times over. I have an uncle who used to own two Mercedes and a large house in an affluent area. A marriage, divorce, paternity suit, and bankruptcy later he is barely eking out an existence. My grandfather was a drug dealer, a junkie, sober, a family man, a store owner, an entrepreneur, a convict, an addict again, and clean again - all before dying at random in his fifties. Life changes quickly and at random. It appears that both book authors fail to realize that we have both less and more control over our lives than what we want to believe.

  39. Bianca wrote:

    White men just do not understand the privilege with which they move through the world.

    Yes, they do. They understand it very, VERY well.

  40. Eva wrote:

    “A lot of what is obvious to us is not actually obvious; it’s something that we learned at a certain point in our lives.”

    This is one of the best quotes I’ve ever read, because it is so true.

  41. Jessica wrote:

    Thank you for posting this. This makes me so sad.

    I just spent a year producing a public radio documentary feature series about the lives of the working poor. To witness the struggle of those peoples lives and then to have this guy dismiss it–it makes me want to scream.

    I have to admit that I was completely naive and sheltered two and a half years ago, before I began working in public radio and started being mentored by a very smart person. I’m thankful that my eyes were opened, and will continue to try and do so among my white, wealthy relatives, who are even more clueless that I was two years ago.

    I think the worst myth in America is this idea that if you are homeless, drug addicted, and unemployed you can get:
    1. free, nice transitional housing on demand
    2. long term inpatient treatment on demand
    3. a social worker to help you find a job, an affordable apartment, etc.

    People honestly believe that this is the case. I BELIEVED THIS WAS THE CASE. And I’m a somewhat smart cookie.

    We really have to begin to dismantle this myth wherever we can.

    All of the comments above were great, especially Liz F’s comment about him not having debt.

  42. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    Ok, so I’m 40 pages into the book.

    David, I understand the weird feeling you’re getting.

    His initial aim seemed all well and good - sick of his materialistic generation, he embarks on this quest to prove that we can do so much with what we have.

    Makes sense.

    It just kills me how he jumps from that topic - addressing the average spoiled teen - to trying to take on Nickel and Dimed with a very limited personal experiment.

    Does. not. compute.

    It gets stranger as we go deeper into the book. He finds work quickly as a day laborer and touches on the debt system (check cashing/ATM by company/low wages) but doesn’t elaborate. He’s treating the experiment as real, which is cool, but I can’t get over the fact that he mentions going back for thirds and fourths in a shelter kitchen.

    I am waiting to see if he discusses how much the small town dynamic was able to help him in his quest.

    More notes to come, but I do encourage people to go and read the full (freely available) book.

  43. N wrote:

    Too bad I don’t have $25, and that I’m a black woman.

    Tends to cut the job pool drastically.

    Oh, and I don’t have a drivers license/car, and I don’t live in a place that has public transportation.

  44. Yvette wrote:

    I’m thinking (if Carmen allows) to spin another side post about poverty. I read a lot on many different topics and people seem to expect that the poor manage to have superhuman abilities of grit, strength and nerve in order to follow these “simple” plans to get out of poverty/obesity/back to college, etc.

    I hope you do continue this conversation. It is an important one to have.

    I think part of the issue is analogous to the saying about history being written by the victors. Well, the “history” of success starting from just dreams and determination are written by those who succeeded. For every story of someone who “did the right things” and succeeded, there are likely many more of people who did the same but did not succeed. (But of course, we do not want to hear those stories…)

  45. ZaloveZa wrote:

    What about the hopelessness factor?
    Many people who are truly impoverished (homeless to be more specific) are often burdened with the harsh truth of their REALITY. The reality that they don’t have any one to turn to. The reality that they can not find a job because they don’t have an address. The reality that they don’t have a credit card in their back pocket just in case anything goes wrong.

    And education does make the difference. A lot of poor people are victims of poor educational systems. Many poor people are illiterate.

    … any many aren’t

    There are the poor who have had formal education. Shit… my mom has a Masters degree and we were still living check to check.

    The American Dream is harder to catch when you constantly battling racism, sexism, oppression, prejudice, classism.

    There is so much more to being poor ( and rising from poverty) than not having any money. There is a strong psychological element as well.

    The man who walks the ledge with a safety harnett and the man who walks the ledge with no protect at all will have two totally different experiences.

    guess whose experience will be more difficult?
    who is more likely to survive?

  46. marge twain wrote:

    This dude sounds totally blind to the privilege he has.

    In addition, “Shepard made up a story of having a parent addicted to drugs and another alcoholic parent” WHY?? So he could steal resources from the needy or manipulate people with a fake sob story? Ick.

    Cynthia and Faith brought up important points about gender disparity. Not only does a pay gap exist in all fields and at all income levels, women are held back from promotion. In 1995 women held 45.7% of jobs in the U.S. but 95% of senior managers were men. At the poverty level(thanks, Wal-Mart) women working full time for Wal-Mart earned $1,100 less per year than men if they were hourly employees and $14,500 less than men if they were salaried. Among men and women of equal rank, male district managers made 35% more than females and regional male V.P.s made 50% more than female V.P.s. (sources for all above: The 51% Minority by Liz Wiehl)
    In 2006 white women in the U.S. working full time made 73.5 cents to a white man’s dollar. Black men made 72.1 cents, followed by black women at 63.6 cents, hispanic men made 57.5 cents and hispanic women only made 51.7 cents to a white man’s dollar. (source:U.S. Current Population Survey and the National Committee on Pay Equity)
    This is something that I rarely hear brought up when talking about race and poverty.

    Shepard seems to be on a mission to prove that getting out of poverty is a matter of attitude. That he seems to want poor people to say”Hey, I’ve got childcare, movin’ on” or “Hey I’ve got probation, whatevs” and doesn’t see these things as *actual barriers to employment* just shows that he did this experiment just to affirm his worldview and didn’t actually learn much.

  47. marge twain wrote:

    He misses anothe point if his work is intended to rebut Barbara Ehrenreich.
    Nickel and Dimed is about attempting to survive on minimum wage, since many people do live that way and wouldn’t if they had other options. She wanted to illustrate the massive injustice of paying hard-working people who are disproportionally women and minorities not enough to live on.

    He suggests in the Get Rich Slowly interview that she went about it all wrong eating out, for example, when she could have been cooking at home. However, she wrote that she was unable to save enough for groceries and thus had to eat fast food sometimes. She couldn’t put together money for a rent deposit so she had to stay in motels sometimes. She couldn’t save anything! She could not have paid $1000 cash all at once for a pickup truck and then complained about the lack of A/C like Shepard did.

  48. Jack D. wrote:

    Heck, I’d set race and gender aside entirely and say he had an unrealistic, huge advantage based on his mental health alone. He grew up believing anything was possible, not mired in the day-to-day struggle of mere existence, and that absence of learned defeatism is going to change EVERYTHING from the git-go.

    Then before we add race and gender, we can look at how his social skills and education-enhanced intelligence affected his ability to secure jobs and good deals. The guy had benefits he doesn’t even realize.

    And THEN we could move on to his total lack of social connections in this “experiment” — no family or friends to support, for example, no romantic interests, etc. … But I’m already tired of typing about this. The guy’s conclusions are horribly skewed and he’ll never realize it.

  49. NancyP wrote:

    Ramen , or individual soup servings, or instant oatmeal, packaged in a plastic bowl, are popular with the homeless because they can often talk a sympathetic gas station operator into letting them microwave these just-add-water items in the station microwave. And without the water, they aren’t hard to lug around.

    People don’t think about things like this. I only know because some church shelter was asking for supplies.

    And some soup kitchens may not have enough to give more than 2 servings…or even more than one serving. It’s the exception to have “all you can eat”.

  50. Jerome wrote:

    “Heck, I’d set race and gender aside entirely and say he had an unrealistic, huge advantage based on his mental health alone. He grew up believing anything was possible, not mired in the day-to-day struggle of mere existence, and that absence of learned defeatism is going to change EVERYTHING from the git-go.”

    Why the assumptions, generalizations, and stereotypes? How do you know anything about how this white dude views the world?

    “Then before we add race and gender, we can look at how his social skills and education-enhanced intelligence affected his ability to secure jobs and good deals. The guy had benefits he doesn’t even realize.”

    So having an average intelligence is now considered a benefit?

  51. Greg wrote:

    As with most things, some can do and some can only blog and whine.
    Grow up

  52. anonymous wrote:

    It should also be mentioned that 20-40% of those experiencing homelessness were placed in foster care as children. That means that (adding to the “baggage” comments) many do not even have the option of running to supportive people in their lives. Even if the author did not reach any of his former contacts (I don’t know if that included personal contacts), he probably could still rely on the fact that he knows there are people out there who love him and will receive him whenever he’s done with his experiment. He probably hasn’t had anywhere close to all the traumatic events that many homeless people have been beat down by.

  53. angryyoungwoman wrote:

    Yeah, now I’m sure all the sweet young republicans will be telling me how I choose to be poor because look! this guy wrote a book about coming out of poverty. This (white, able-bodied, college-educated) guy with a credit card in his back pocket and a safety net of money and family. Whereas, I, you know, chose to become disabled and poor. Right.

  54. arwyn wrote:

    most of the homeless shelters i know about have a limited number of beds, and long line of people waiting for those beds.
    more proof of this guy’s privilege that he didn’t even think about who he was displacing for a couple nights while he stayed at a homeless shelter because of some stupid experiment he was doing.

    and yes, Jerome, average intelligence is a privelge, as is litteracy, and being able to speak english.

  55. Kynn wrote:

    You know, if a black woman or man, or a Latina/o, decided to do this — regardless of middle-class background, they sure wouldn’t get any sort of book deal out of the experiment.

  56. FrancesM wrote:

    Mr. Sheppard certainly could have found a more honorable way of conducting his “experiment.” Instead of taking away resources for those who really needed them, ie. shelter & food, he could have with permission, followed around a few subjects and wrote about them. He could have found subjects of different backgrounds & attitudes and reported on his findings. Instead he chose as so many privileged do: to gain by taking away from others and give only himself the credit.

    His ideas about attitude I agree with. But if one grows up with a number of oppressions put on them just for existing, it may take a little longer for that good attitude to kick in. Faith in one’s self has to be taught sometimes to people who have little hope due to various circumstances. Attitude helps but cannot be considered the sole factor in one’s success.

    and I don’t blame him for getting a book deal out of this. Getting rich(er) by the quickest & laziest methods possible is something many of us would be okay with. I just wish this dude would admit it.
    ~F

  57. atlasien wrote:

    His story sort of reminds me of “Into the Wild”. Without the dying horribly part, of course.

  58. DivergentDana wrote:

    Ah, Greg… what have YOU done?

  59. Gregory A. Butler wrote:

    Adam Shepard’s “experiment” was bogus.

    He’s an able bodied US born White American male, with no criminal record and no dependent children and/or child support.

    That gave him a huge advantage over his competitors - that is, the other poor folks he had to compete with for jobs and resources.

    He didn’t have any health issues that would have limited his employment options.

    When he went for services - like shelter or public assistance - or went looking for jobs, caseworkers and bosses saw somebody who “looked like them” either racially or culturally, and were more likely to help him out.

    Think about it - a White guy standing among a group of Mexican men at a day labor shapeup.

    Who’s more likely to get a job when the first truck pulls up?

    Who’s likely to get paid more?

    (this is very real - according to a Carpenters Union organizer I know, there is a non union contractor in New York that pays it’s White non union carpenters $ 15/hr and it’s Latino and Black carpenters $ 7 - barely above NYS minimum wage)

    And, when that White boss is looking for one of the day laborers to give a full time job, who do you think is going to get the spot?

    Also, lacking a criminal record, he had no curfew, and no limitations on what kind of jobs he could get.

    (here in New York, if you have a record, you can’t work in any number of jobs - you can’t even be a real estate agent, or work at a newsstand in an airport!)

    He also didn’t have any criminal fines, debts or child support garnisheements being deducted from his wages.

    In short, he began the game standing on home plate - and has the nerve to claim he hit a home run!!!!

    Here’s a thought - why not duplicate that “experiment” but with a twist.

    Get a Mexican man, with two kids back home with his wife, and one kid with a woman up here (who has a child support order against him).

    Let’s also add in a couple of misdemeanor convictions and a Probation Officer that he HAS to see every month, on a weekday, at 9AM or he will AUTOMATICALLY get locked up.

    Let’s also give him a limited proficiency in English, and a 5th grade reading level in Spanish.

    Then let’s see if he can save $ 5,000 in 8 months!!!

  60. IB wrote:

    It has already been said but worth saying again — he succeeded where she didn’t mostly because a young male is going to be looked at differently than a middle age woman. And it affects everything — what job and pay you get, where you live, etc. This country just doesn’t treat women as first class citizens who need a fair living wage. Maybe that will change if Obama and the Dems have power for the next 4 years.

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