Gloria Steinem: Pitting race against gender

by Racialicious guest contributor Jennifer Fang, originally published at Reappropriate

Since 2004, when rumours abounded over an Obama candidacy, pundits have cast this year’s Democratic election as a battle of identity politics: will Americans choose a Black man or a White woman to be their nominee for president? And by extension, will this finally settle the debate over which is the more subjugated identity: race or gender?

Yesterday morning, Gloria Steinem, influential second-wave feminist, weighed in at the New York Times with an opinion piece titled “Women Are Never Front-Runners”. I guess we can tell where she stands in this debate.

(Incidentally, if women are never front-runners, than how did Clinton get as far as she did on the “inevitable pseudo-incumbent” campaign she’s been running that made her the front-runner for most of last year? I find the headline of this piece to be a wee bit of hyperbole.)

We’ve heard many argue that it’s time for an African American president, and many more argue it’s time for a female president. But, nowhere in the race vs. gender frenzy that has swept the nation has anyone challenged the very validity of the question. How can one compare racism to sexism – and if one tries, where do those of us who are disadvantaged both by our race and by our gender fit in?

In truth, the juxtaposition is disingenuous, divisive, overly simplistic, and ultimately harmful, because it redirects our attention away from efforts to break the White male patriarchy that excludes all the Others, but towards in-fighting where we all compete to see both who’s more oppressed, and who will make it out of that “Oppression Box” first.

Scholars like Steinem have only fueled these divisive attitudes. Though she writes, “I’m not advocating a competition for who has it toughest”, Steinem opens her article with the observation that “gender is probably the most restricting force in American life”. She continues by implying that the race barrier has largely been resolved, because “Black men were given the vote a half-century before women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have ascended to positions of power, from the military to the boardroom, before any women”.

While Steinem is correct in observing that women are still oppressed by the gender roles that expect us to remain in the kitchen over the White House, how can we compare those gender roles to the racist expectation that Black men be either athletes or in jail? How does that compare to the plight of Native Americans, who suffer from almost non-existent healthcare or educational opportunities? Or to the on-the-job harassment faced by Asian Americans seen as perpetually untrustworthy and foreign?

Steinem’s argument that women were denied the vote for a half-century after Black men were made voting citizens ignores two truths: 1) had the right for women to vote been included in the 14th and 15th Amendments, those Amendments were unlikely to have passed, and 2) despite being granted the right to vote in the Constitution, it took nearly another century before the Voting Rights Act allowed the majority of African Americans to exercise that right in the face of profoundly institutionalized racism and apartheid. But Steinem essentially argues that these details are irrelevant: because women were not granted the vote when Black men were, Black men face fewer barriers today compared to White women, and thus are less deserving of affirmative action when it comes to the highest position in the country. By extension, Steinem suggests that if White women don’t benefit from a step towards civil rights, than no one should – which is why we need a female president before we need a Black president.

Steinem further suggests that negative treatment (or impossible expectations) of Senator Hillary Clinton stem exclusively from a sexism “as pervasive as the air we breathe”. She notes that a fictional Achola Obama (who, unlike Senator Obama, doesn’t seem to have achieved anything more than state legislator) would not be seen as electable while Senator Barack Obama – by virtue of his gender, says Steinem – is. Not only does this ignore the very “un-electable Obama” argument that has been a core component of Clinton’s stump speeches, but Steinem carelessly paints all criticisms of Senator Clinton with the same sexist brush. She notes “Clinton could not have used Mr. Obama’s public style – or Bill Clinton’s either – without being considered too emotional by Washington pundits”. But, Hillary Clinton has tried: notably in Selma, Alabama earlier this year, when Clinton and Obama delivered back-to-back speeches in neighbouring churches. Obama’s speech was generally heralded as rousing and inspiring. Clinton’s was not criticized as being “too emotional”, but too robotic and fake. In fact, I suspect that Clinton can’t get away with Obama’s or Clinton’s style of speaking not because she’s a woman, but because she’s simply not that charismatic a speaker.

On the question of biology, Steinem again contradicts herself. Though she argues that sexism has remained pervasive because of how it is “still confused with nature” (i.e. women are naturally or biologically different), she goes on to underscore and praise Clinton’s innate differences as a woman by citing how she has “no masculinity to prove”. And when it comes to emotion, Steinem recognizes that Washington pundits are quick to charge female politicians with being “too emotional” but then she lauds Clinton for having “the courage to break the no-tears rule”. Steinem seems to want it front-ways, back-ways, and every ways but Sundays when it comes to Clinton – she believes Clinton deserves our vote in part “because she’s a woman”, while arguing that Clinton shouldn’t be seen as “divisive by her sex”.

But the contradictions on how to consider Senator Clinton’s gender seem to run deeper – all the way to the Senator’s campaign. Senator Clinton repeatedly cites the change that will be affected by electing a female president, but then dismisses the charge that she is playing the “gender card”. (By contrast, not once has Obama said that he should be elected because he would be the first Black president). Senator Clinton claims to be the candidate of feminists (indeed, Steinem herself basically questions the gender authenticity of young women for daring to choose a male candidate over Senator Clinton – going so far as to suggest that “women are the one group that grows more radical with age”) and yet Clinton expected to ride the wave of her husband’s accomplishments all the way to the White House. And in case we found out that she actually had very little to do with those accomplishments, she and her husband have carefully chosen to exclude White House documents pertaining to the First Lady’s role during the Clinton years from the public eye.

Ultimately, however, Steinem’s piece (intentionally or unintentionally) draws a line in the sand between people of colour and women, essentially disregarding the everyday racism faced by Black and Brown people, and claiming the Oppression Olympics gold medal for women. Further, by casting the debate as between Black men and White women (despite her imperfect creation of Achola Obama), Steinem renders the woman of colour invisible, reaffirms the binary Black-White paradigm of race, and demands we take a side in the epic battle between race and gender. Is it no wonder, then, that women of colour have long felt alienated by feminists like Steinem? Where do we fit when we’re being asked to choose between Obama and Clinton as a metaphor for race versus gender? And how are we supposed to react when an incorrect choice labels us as “less radical”?

Gloria Steinem wants us to able to say we’re supporting Senator Hillary Clinton because she’ll be a great president and because she’s a woman. But if we’re really ready to take “equal pride in breaking all the barriers”, then how can we be expected to make the call between voting for these candidates based even in part on their identity? Regardless of whom we decide on, by making the identity politics of our candidate a factor in our decision, we are implicitly establishing a “separate and unequal” relationship between race and gender barriers that only fuels the continued clash between race activists and feminists.

So, I’m supporting Senator Barack Obama because he’ll be a great president. And, not because he’s Black.

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Comments

  1. Paul wrote:

    She’s right. I remember reading about when entire communities of white women were destroyed and seeing postcards of white women being lynched and talking to white women who were stopped by the police for no reason. Boy, white women have it really bad in the US.

  2. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    Great analysis Jenn.

    As a black woman, I read that op-ed and was like, what the hell? Did we forget that suffragette movement she mentions was symbolic of what a lot of black women feel are conflicts with how feminism is positioned? The right to vote issue tried to divide us into picking “either/or” - as in I can support my race to get the right to vote or I can support my gender. Apparently, even though I am both, I can’t support both.

    I already felt some of those older themes resurging in this election. So, I was amused to see Steinem decided to reinsert that dynamic into this debate.

    I wondered for a few seconds why Steinem would chose to frame her article this way when there are so many feminists of color that already have to deal with these intersectionality issues everyday.

    I guess that this piece, like most articles written by mainstream feminists, weren’t written with people like me in mind.

  3. Anonymous wrote:

    from Steinem’s article: “What worries me is that some women, perhaps especially younger ones, hope to deny or escape the sexual caste system; thus Iowa women over 50 and 60, who disproportionately supported Senator Clinton, proved once again that women are the one group that grows more radical with age.”

    perhaps it is that women (and men for that matter) over 50 and 60 are less likely to support a non-white candidate? there’s nothing radical about that.

    it still amazes me how easily women of color can be completely brushed aside in feminist debates. thank you for sharing this.

  4. Bleu wrote:

    Jennifer, your views on how divisive this kind of gender v. race framework is are of the same sort responsible for the rise of the Third Wave. It’s depressing me to see Second Wave leaders still not getting it and resorting back to it and wielding it as a weapon.

  5. Wendi Muse wrote:

    awesome analysis, jenn. i agree 100%
    when my friend sent me this article, i was appalled. steinem could get a gold medal in the oppression olympics for this one.

  6. diablaazul wrote:

    Steinem’s op-ed was way off-base in many respects. I cringed when I read it - the pitting of race vs. gender, young vs. old, men vs. women - all wrong.

    But, I think there are some small nuggets of truth in what she said, in that Clinton seems to be having a harder time navigating the “problem” of her gender than Obama is having navigating the “problem” of his race. She can’t do anything right at the moment. Either she’s too cold and calculating, or she’s too emotional. Either she’s fake, or she can’t keep her feelings under control. Obama seems to be a golden child right now. I’m not sure why the media is treating him this way, given how they generally treat black men, but his media coverage has been overwhelmingly positive as of late.

    As for Obama not mentioning that he would be the first black president, personally I think it’s something that he has probably been advised not to bring up. It would scare too many white voters away. They would prefer to hear that his race doesn’t matter at all (and in fact Obama seems to have picked up much of this rhetoric of color-blindness that white America finds so compelling). Honestly, I think that Clinton mentioning that she would be the first woman president hurts her with a lot of voters, as well. Whether it wins over enough women to offset the number of voters it alienates, I don’t know.

  7. Cara wrote:

    Yes. As a white feminist who generally likes Steinem, I too cringed while reading this. Every discussion I’ve seen of it has held similar reactions, though I don’t doubt that I will see a defense of it sooner rather than later.

    I do disagree with you on only one point:

    In fact, I suspect that Clinton can’t get away with Obama’s or Clinton’s style of speaking not because she’s a woman, but because she’s simply not that charismatic a speaker.

    Actually, I think that Clinton is a charismatic speaker. I do think that she gets the “robotic” crap because of her gender, and that whether she “talks like a man” or “talks like a woman,” she’s going to get shit, which she indeed has so far.

    But, Obama is a better speaker. And in either case, Clinton is still my third pick for nominee out of the top three choices.

  8. Kai wrote:

    Great post, Jenn.

    Plus, here’s what Steinem wrote in the New York Times on Feb. 7, 2007:

    Even before Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton threw their exploratory committees into the ring, every reporter seemed to be asking which candidate are Americans more ready for, a white woman or a black man?

    With all due respect to the journalistic dilemma of reporting two “firsts” at the same time — two viable presidential candidates who aren’t the usual white faces over collars and ties — I think this is a dumb and destructive question.

    It’s dumb because most Americans are smart enough to figure out that a member of a group may or may not represent its interests. […]

    The question is also destructive because it’s divisive. In fact, women of all races and men of color — who together form an underrepresented majority of this country — have often found themselves in coalition. Both opposed the wars in Vietnam and Iraq more and earlier than their white male counterparts. White women have also been more likely than white men to support pro-equality candidates of color, and people of color have been more likely to support pro-equality white women.

    I prefer 2007 Steinem to the latest one. It’s always disappointing to see prominent progressive luminaries pit feminism against anti-racism, which sets back both movements by clogging intersections with gridlock. It doesn’t have to be this way. We don’t have to play this game.

    Peace.

  9. Blanky wrote:

    I just laugh when she mentions “women vs. black people,” as if the only women are white women and that, apparently, women are not part of “black people.”

  10. Jenn wrote:

    “Actually, I think that Clinton is a charismatic speaker. ”

    I guess it’s a question of taste, because I don’t like her speaking style, although she has greatly improved since her image was “re-tooled” following Iowa. In general, I find it hard to connect with her — she seems to lack passion in what she is talking about.

    But, I don’t think (at least in my view of her speaking style) it has to do with her gender. There are many fabulous, charismatic female speakers, and many crappy, robotic male speakers. If anything, in Selma, Hillary suffered from forcing “thunder” when she’s simply more comfortable being more the subdued, policy wonk.

  11. Anonymous wrote:

    I think Obama is really charismatic, while Clinton is not. Also, Obama is really good-looking, while Clinton isn’t that good-looking (she probably doesn’t pass the feminine standards of beauty).

    I wonder how it would play out if Obama looked more socially unacceptable.

  12. gingermc wrote:

    Thanks for saying exactly what i have spent 2 days writing the Times and other news outlets about, and that is the unnecessary and misleading race vs. gender war Ms. Steinem initiated on behalf of the Clintons. I am an Af-Am woman who has donated to both the Clinton & Obama campaigns, but everyone I have talked to has been universally outraged about the Steinem article. That old Sister Soulja-bashing, Lani Guinier-ditching side of the Clintons has started to peek through again. I don’t know why they must rally the women’s vote at the expense of African American men instead of going against George Bush, but my mother, who is a survivor of both the civil rights and womens movements, tells me this is par for the course, unfortunately. She is going to lose votes. She will not get mine.

  13. ntcen wrote:

    well said. I agree with alot of what you said and made some similar remarks on my own blog.

  14. michael wrote:

    I actually agree with much of what Gloria wrote in that op-ed, but i’m not surprised by the black & white responses. Pun intended.

  15. G.D. wrote:

    Very, very well said.

  16. Charles S wrote:

    Thanks for this.

    One thing of many that I found ironic in that piece was that her imagined black woman who couldn’t possibly get elected to the US senate or make a serious run for the presidency has a biography remarkably similar to that of Carol Mosley-Braun, who ran for and won election to the US senate with exactly the same number of years in the Illinois legislature as Obama had, and who ran for the presidency on the basis of a single term in the US senate. So, in fact a black woman with Obama’s biography has been a US Senator and a respectable (at the Biden Dodd level rather than the Obama Clinton level) candidate for the presidency.

    There are many things that deserve to be said about the misogyny and sexism with which Clinton has been treated by the press, but trying to carry that message on the backs of black people just flat out stinks.

  17. donna darko wrote:

    Kinda crazy and out of touch.

    Blacks did not vote until 1965.

    I think she’s right sexism is more acceptable because people still think men and women are different whereas people know racism is a bad thing.

  18. Paul wrote:

    The Rich White Women’s led by Steinem and specializes in marginalizing people. Look at Monica Lewinsky. Here you have a college-aged girl being taken advantage of by a workposuperior. Rather than condemning Clinton’s sexual harrassment, NOW et al. make Lewinsky out to be at fault despite the fact that Clinton’s behavior is textbook sexual harrassment.

  19. Persia wrote:

    Linked from feministing. I love this piece! Sums up my thoughts far better than I did.

    She’s right. I remember reading about when entire communities of white women were destroyed and seeing postcards of white women being lynched and talking to white women who were stopped by the police for no reason. Boy, white women have it really bad in the US.

    Paul, I think that’s the same dualistic crap that Steinem’s got going on (maybe that was your intention, though). Sexism and racism in this country take very different forms, generally, and trying a one-to-one comparison the way she is…just doesn’t work. They both suck, dammit!

  20. latinamericanprinces wrote:

    Yes both racism and sexism suck. But I do think Clinton herself and her campaign focuses more on gender than Obama focuses on race. I think this is then reflected through the greater emphasis on gender in media coverage (with a sexist bias). Perhaps it is because Clinton has had to fight that gender prejudice much longer (think of her age, not the history of women versus blacks) and has been under public scrutiny much longer? Either way, Obama is doing a better job of not limiting his identity or opening himself up to the stereotyping that is common in society. Perhaps that is why he appeals to younger voters? We’ve grown up with the ideas and freedoms that the black movement and women’s movement fought so hard for. Is it perhaps easier for many of us to see more than “just a woman” or “just a black man”?

  21. Yvette wrote:

    Steinem further “explains” her op-ed position on NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17988094&ft=1&f=46. I did not feel that enlightened by what she said, however. Maybe I should listen to it again without the distraction of trying to work at the same time, but it seemed as if she said something like No, I didn’t mean to *rank* race and gender, but to say that gender is more important just because there are more women than people of color.

    Oh, OK. (Not.)

  22. Colin wrote:

    That NPR interview did not help in terms of explaining that op-ed. She did the same thing, giving deference to unity (Obama’s message, oddly enough) and then being an agent of division. (more like Senator Clinton or Edwards)

    She’s probably done a lot of good, but she’s been having two bad, bad days this week.

  23. donna darko wrote:

    She’s only divisive as much as she’s unapologetically feminist. This says much more about the United States than her. Obama has been careful not to jump on the Katrina, Jena 6, etc. bandwagons.

  24. Jacqui wrote:

    In response to Paul’s comment:
    “She’s right. I remember reading about when entire communities of white women were destroyed and seeing postcards of white women being lynched and talking to white women who were stopped by the police for no reason. Boy, white women have it really bad in the US.”

    Though this does not relate directly to the topic addressed by Steinnem’s or Jenn’s editorials I would hate to let Paul’s comment go unanswered. Though maybe in your opinion this is not as outrageous as lynching, still let me say that it would be unfortunate to not acknowledge the continued prevalence of violence against women in the US. Just Google some statistics on rape or domestic violence. There is even a good chance based on the stats that there is a female friend or relative in your life who is a survivor of rape or some form of sex-based violence. So until women in this country can live in their homes, go to parties or walk down the street without fear of being attacked I would hate for anyone to insinuate that women’s history or present status is not also full of targeted violence and injustices.

  25. Paul wrote:

    Jacqui,
    People of color have suffered from state-sanctioned violence and oppression including: genocide, slavery, black codes, the reservation system, The Gentlemen’s Agreement, sundown towns, redlining, et al.. That is fundamentally different from individual acts of violence such as rape. White women benefit from Whiteness and have been some of the most ardent defenders of white supremacy (see the Till case among many others when a white woman falsely accused a black man of untoward conduct or rape). So forgive me if I don’t weep for the oppressors when the very system in which they are so deeply vested bites them in the ass.

  26. Carmen Van Kerckhove wrote:

    Paul and Jacqui, friendly reminder to please read our comment moderation policy, particularly this point:

    6. Let’s avoid oppression olympics please. I’m not saying it’s never something to be discussed, but generally speaking, bickering over who has it worse off, or who’s more racist, is really kind of useless.

  27. brandnew wrote:

    Clinton or Obama?

    Anyone is better than the white men only club house we call the White House!

  28. oldcrone wrote:

    Ms. Fang’s angry article twists Steinem’s ideas and makes unfair assumptions about her opinion.

    I prefer Clinton (although I will happily vote for Obama or Edwards) because she is the most qualified, experienced and has the broadest understanding of national policy of any of the three viable Democratic candidates.

    Also, it would have been a good idea for Ms. Fang to mention that she has been an Obama supporter since at least April 07. Nothing wrong with that, of course. It does, however, make one question her motives for ranting against Steinem’s article.

  29. allie wrote:

    I would like to point out that violence against women is not just about “individual acts of violence such as rape.” Rape and other forms of violence against women are systemic problems not just individual acts, and violence against women is something that happens to ALL women, everywhere in the world.

    I’m struggling myself to not pit racism vs sexism, but I have to acknowledge how prevalent and acceptable violence against women is in all forms of media. At least most of us, I would hope, can recognize and be appalled when we see and hear such overt racism - but we still don’t seem to mind using violence against women to sell jeans….

    Both racism and sexism are unacceptable, both rear their ugly heads in different ways and that’s what makes it complicated.

  30. Myra wrote:

    The end of all this bickering may well be that BOTH candidates win the opression olympics & neither gets elected. This is a great sore point of mine. Then again, I don’t know the issues and it could well be that neither is right to lead America.

  31. Gladys wrote:

    While Steinem is correct in observing that women are still oppressed by the gender roles that expect us to remain in the kitchen over the White House, how can we compare those gender roles to the racist expectation that Black men be either athletes or in jail? How does that compare to the plight of Native Americans, who suffer from almost non-existent healthcare or educational opportunities? Or to the on-the-job harassment faced by Asian Americans seen as perpetually untrustworthy and foreign?

    Sexism does not merely mean being expected to be in the kitchen. It never has. Sexism is not the same as racism, but suggesting that sexist oppression cannot “compare” (i.e. is never as bad/important?) as racist oppression looks a lot like pitting race against gender to me. Perhaps someone who doesn’t trivialize sexism would be better equipped to take on Steinem’s trivialization of racism.

  32. Paul wrote:

    The point of my post was that rich, cloistered white women like Steinem and Hillary have benefitted from White Supremacy and thus ought not even be invited to the Oppression Olympics. In my opinion, they are much worse than white men because white women cloak themselves in the garb of oppression, while still getting all the spoils of being white. Try and criticize them and they claim gender bias straight out. Rape is wrong and illegal, but a man raping a woman does not erase the complicity that elite white women have within the system.

  33. G wrote:

    Let me give you a hint as to whom Gloria Steinem is and why she said what she did. Here is an article from the same New York Times from forty years ago:

    The New York Times, February 21, 1967

    C.I.A. Subsidized Festival Trips
    Hundreds of Students Were
    Sent to World Gatherings
    A New York freelance writer disclosed yesterday that the Central Intelligence Agency had supported a foundation that sent hundreds of Americans to World Youth Festivals in Vienna in 1959 and Helsinki, Finland, in 1962.

    Gloria Steinem, a 30-year-old graduate of Smith College, said the C.I.A. has been a major source of funds for the foundation, the Independence [sic — Independent] Research Service, since its formation in 1958. Almost all of the young persons who received aid from the foundation did not know about the relationship with the intelligence agency, Miss Steinem said. Ironically, she said, many of the students who attended the festivals have been criticized as leftists. The festivals are supposed to be financed by contributions from national student unions, but are, in fact, largely supported by the Soviet Union.

    Miss Steinem said she had become convinced that American students should participate in the World Youth Festivals after she spent two years in India.

    “I came home in 1958 full of idealism and activism, to discover that very little was being done,” she said. “Students were not taken seriously here before the civil rights movement, and private money receded at the mention of a Communist youth festival.”

    Hears of Funds
    Miss Steinem said she had talked to some former officers of the National Student Association, who told her C.I.A. money might be available to finance American participation in the seventh postwar festival scheduled for Vienna in the summer of 1959.

    The former association officers had had ties with the C.I.A. while serving the association, which last week conceded it had taken money from the intelligence agency since 1952.

    “Far from being shocked by this involvement, I was happy to find some liberals in government in those days, who were far-sighted and cared enough to get Americans of all political views to the festival,” Miss Steinem said. She noted that most Americans who had attended various festivals were sympathetic to Communist policies.

    The Independence [sic] Research Service, originally called the Independent Service for Information on the Vienna Festival, was organized with headquarters in Cambridge, Mass. It concentrated, Miss Steinem said, on disseminating information about the festival and urging young persons who espoused flexible, but non-Communist, foreign policy views to attend.

    Miss Steinem was a full-time employe of the service till following the Helsinki festival in 1962.

    About 130 youths who had made contact with the foundation did attend, although few of them received significant financial help, Miss Steinem said.

    Recruits for Festival
    Before the Helsinki festival in 1962 the foundation again recruited young teachers, lawyers, scholars, linguists and journalists — most of whom would consider themselves very liberal Democrats — to attend.

    The Independent Service financed a newspaper, a new [sic — news?] bureau, cultural exhibits and two jazz clubs during the festival. However, its most important work was to convince youths from Asia, Africa and Latin America that some Americans understood their aspirations for national self-determination, Miss Steinem said.

    Miss Steinem insisted that the C.I.A. had never tried to alter the policy of the foundation.

    “I was never asked to report on other Americans or assess foreign nationals I had met,” she said.

    Miss Steinem noted that since the foundation was started in “the post-McCarthy era” the Federal Government could not openly finance the foundation. Overt government support would also have “alienated” youths from other countries who were suspicious of the United States, she said.

    “The C.I.A.’s big mistake was not supplanting itself with private funds fast enough,” she observed.

    Now, Ms. Steinem had a history consistent with being a CIA asset prior to her admitted work for The Agency spying on international student festivals.

    (An aside: You’d be surprised how many important people went to these student festivals without knowing that they were working for the CIA. For ex, Steve and Cokie Roberts! Maybe they still don’t know.)

    Steinem had done a lot of globe-trotting as a student with little apparent support. Soon after her admission of working for the CIA (though not totally honest in the article either) she stopped being a sensible liberal funded by the CIA to found Ms. Magazine, along with Clay Felker (who also had CIA ties, working with Steinem at the Helsinki Youth Festival). Guess who funded Ms.? Yup, the CIA.

    Now why would the CIA want to fund a feminist magazine?

    From a review of Ruth Rosen’s The World Split Open: How the Modern Women’s Movement Changed America:

    One of the more interesting threads that could have unraveled feminism and undoubtedly fomented conflict is the extent to which, under COINTELPRO, the FBI infiltrated and spied on feminist activists and organizations. Characterizing feminist politics as “paranoid,” by the early 1970s, Rosen goes on to note the sound basis of many wary activists’ concern, stating, “Still, in my wildest flights of paranoia I never imagined the extent to which the FBI spied on feminists or how many women did the spying” (p. 240). The FBI was apparently able to recruit women informers to attend meetings and report back to the FBI with ease. Bureau files contain summaries of feminist meetings with such subversive aims as, “They wanted equal opportunities that men have in work and in society.”

    There was a memo from the FBI’s San Francisco office back in the late sixties where a bureaucrat suggested that feminism could be used as a tool to defeat the civil rights and anti-war movements. Get the sisters and brothers fighting. Divide and conquer.

    And then Gloria Steinem, a toiler for the CIA, becomes a feminist at a spanking new magazine funded by the CIA. What do you think her job has been the last forty years? Does her op-ed gather together all progressives of good will to work for a better land for all people? No, she drives a wedge between blacks and whites, men and women. Divide and conquer.

    By taking a look at her romantic attachments you get a feeling that whatever her public stances on women’s rights she doesn’t seem to care much about human rights. Steinem had a nine-year relationship with Stanley Pottinger, the Republican Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights during the Nixon and Ford regimes. If you recall, the Attorney Generals in Nixon’s Justice Department were getting indicted and convicted hand over fist. They were overseeing COINTELPRO, etc. Pottinger thrived there. He was still around Washington, D.C. in 1980 when he was involved in the October Surprise.

    Steinem also got all gooey with Henry Kissinger, a man who’s got the blood of millions on his hands.

    In short, is this woman a feminist? Well, the New York Times says she’s a feminist.

    Her lifelong body of work has been in the service of the oligarchy, to mislead and misdirect the feminist movement, to continually divide women from the greater social justice movements. And as hard as it is to believe, most Americans don’t know her connections to the CIA and don’t understand her special kind of magic.

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  34. me wrote:

    Gloria Steinem is unbelievably dumb, or perhaps she thinks we all are. It’s not that people are questioning whether or not we are ready for a female president, rather it’s the questioning of having a particular PERSON as president. Isn’t that what the feminist movement was about? Being judged on your merits as a person first and NOT your gender?

    Guilt tripping isn’t going to work on this front.

    -Smith College, ‘92

  35. In the Middle wrote:

    While I found much of Steinem’s article to be absurd and polarizing, I also found the response by Jen and many comments to be equally polarizing and slated to not acknowledge sexism. Racism and sexism have and do take some similar and some very different forms of oppression. I mean yes, some rich white women are out of touch, but so are some rich African Americans. The real oppression amongst us all is economic status - minorities and women and children are over represented among the poor.

    However back to have a female and an African American presidential candiate anyone who thinks race and gender somehow magically do not matter anymore needs to tune in!! There is still plenty of oppression going around. I have two bi-racial daughters, and as that I personally like both the top two Deomocratic canidates I will be very proud when one of these become president and will serve as one of the greatest symbols that times are changing.

  36. Jonathan Richardson wrote:

    Great article Jen!

  37. Adele wrote:

    didn’t gloria steinmen go “undercover” as a playboy bunny? Give me a break. She’s good at being famous. I don’t think any core feminists consider her to be a voice of authority.

    The bigger question is why Obama is the better candidate. More charismatic yes, gallant, intelligent, handsome, and authentic, check, check, check. I can’t say that Bill Clinton’s fairy tale comment was completely off base however, just taken completely out of context. At the end of the day, people want a hero, not a heroin to rush in and save the day. Too bad whoever gets into office is going to be a lame duck president after the quagmire the current administration has got us into. It’s a damn mess people! At least with Hillary we get a shot at healthcare up in this piece! He needs to be her vice president, and there is nothing wrong or racist with that scenario.

  38. Menzi wrote:

    Gloria does not speak for me and never has. Whether or not black men got the right to vote, they also were being lynched and gassed up to 50 years ago so what relevance was their right to vote?

    Clearly Gloria has never been a Black person, a Black woman or any other minority to suggest that women are the most suffering minority. White women too Gloria? Y’all were shouting at us to get on the back of the bus too, no? Give me a break.

    Obama has my vote. Clinton is overcalculating and old school politics and voted for the war in Iraq. At least Obama is honest. What experience does Clinton have that is so superior to Barack? At the end of the day, all my hardships challenges etc have everything to do with being Black first. Woman second. Bottom line. Gloria you clearly don’t speak for the sisters not when it comes down to your girl’s presidential candidacy. How transparent.

  39. Kelis wrote:

    Gloria Steinem wrote an article about women, about all women, arguing the women matter. As a Black woman, I applaud her. Jennifer Fang is a first-time voter (if she registered yet, last time I checked her Obama profile, she hadn’t) who isn’t addressing anything Steinem wrote. Like Melissa Harris-Lacewell, Fang has some serious issues and it’s worth considering, in all these attacks on ‘evil’ White women Steinem’s age, if it’s not a stand in for Saint Bambi’s own White mother? I think there’s been a lot of work done to deny that Barack’s bi-racial and I think a lot of the hate tossed Gloria Steinem’s way goes to that fact.

  40. donna darko wrote:

    I listened to the Steinem-Harris-Lacewell the other day and Steinem is losin’ it a bit at 74. This is not an ageist statement. My mom is 76 and losin’ it a bit. Steinem is usually on the money but a little incoherent here.

    Hired Clinton commenters are sharp. Where are you the rest of the year? ;)

  41. Angel H. wrote:

    Steinem is usually on the money but a little incoherent here.

    Ah! I wondered if I was the only one who noticed that.

  42. Orville wrote:

    Steinem doesn’t give a damn about black women and Steinem’s article reeks of racism and misandry. The Combahee River Collective a black feminist group have pointed out they will not divorce themselves from the black race. White feminists such as Gloria Steinem play this racist game of trying to place race over gender. Steinem is a racist anti black male bigot and she is wrong. Black men were lynched for daring to look at white women. Does anyone remember Emmett Till? Black men encounter racism and sexism. Why do some feminists act as though men don’t encounter sexism? Steinem’s articles reeks of bigotry and prejudice.

  43. Orville wrote:

    I also wanted to point out it it is obvious Steinem is doing the dirty work for the Clintons trying to acquire the black female vote. What has Hillary Clinton ever done for black women? The divide and conquer strategy is a game white feminists play very well all the while ignoring their own racism and sexism. Gloria Steinem is full of shit.

  44. donna darko wrote:

    The strangest part for me was when she tried to compare Obama with a black woman. A black man and a white woman are discriminated against by race and gender but a black woman is discriminated against by race and gender. You can’t compare the two.

  45. Michelle wrote:

    For a brief moment, a brief moment, there were three awesome people vying for the democratic nomination. In that briefest of moments, people were listening to what they were saying and how they were saying it. People were asking tough questions about the financing of their campaign, how they voted while they were in the senate, how they felt about the war, what they were going to do about poverty. And that briefest of moments seemed to vanish under the inevitable weight of race and gender in this country.

    What no one seems to be recognizing is that the third place candidate is a White man. John Edwards has been the one to be marginalized in this race towards the nomination. Is that not a victory? Does that not say something profound about change? Why then do we (as anyone who feels that they have ever been marginalized by the White mainstream American political system) need to do the dirty work of the media? Race and gender matter, of course, but for a moment, the fact that they didn’t, was a true victory for the movement toward equality.

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