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1. The Globes Are Off… And So Is The NAACP. « PostBourgie on 15 Jan 2008 at 4:47 am

   […] of awards ceremonies, y’all know the NAACP Image Awards 2008 nominees are out, right? Sure you do! Many have already voiced their outrage over Angelina Jolie’s Outstanding Actress in a Motion […]

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1. kd wrote:

   All I have to say is” WHY!?!?!”

   Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 1:23 pm ¶

2. Hannahjoja wrote:

   That lady does not care one bit about an award from the NAACP. As a black person, I don’t care about an award from the NAACP. When that organization starts adhering to the beliefs on which it were founded then we can talk. Until then, pssssshh!

   Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 1:57 pm ¶

3. KEYSHA wrote:

   wtf… how in the hell did this happen. this is a slap in the face.

   Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 5:20 pm ¶

4. Danni wrote:

   I wonder how much thought they gave this, and why they came to the conclusion that positively portraying black people is the aim— not nessisarily being a positive influence.

   Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 5:35 pm ¶

5. Bianca wrote:

   Another item on the long list of How the NAACP Has Lost Its Way.

   Like the poster above, I think these awards become more and more meaningless, though I hope Jurnee wins. But believe me when I say I won’t be surprised at all if Angelina takes it.

   Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 5:42 pm ¶

6. Orville wrote:

   I am really upset by this. I recall an article I wrote last year called “Shades of Blackface” for the New Zealand Herald if you search google you should be able to find it. I interviewed Carmen and she provided some excellent points for the article. My goodness it seems like even the NAACP doesn’t care about the harm going on here. I think I am going to cry.

   Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 6:40 pm ¶

7. Kenda wrote:

   wtf was exactly my reaction

   Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 7:45 pm ¶

8. La - msviswan wrote:

   Now what’s wrong with the NAACM again? Who’s big idea was this? A white female putting on black-face makeup flattered them that much? What “image” are they trying to send? Approval for society to use more black-face? Or, perhaps they’re trying to say this is the “image” black women should possess.

   Didn’t they get the memo about the Pittsters practically saying this whole movie was not about “being black” or even about a “black” female in the first place? M. Pearl herself had the nerve once to even say she’s not black. So where the hell is Jolie going? They didn’t want anything to do with a black woman for the film, yet they want her perks. smh.

   Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 8:11 pm ¶

9. Ashley wrote:

   Didn’t you know? Getting a tan and an a curly perm makes you an honorary black person.

   Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 8:49 pm ¶

10. regina wrote:

    Hello there! Very interesting blog! I actually like Angellina…but I didn’t know she was black, but then again I also didn’t know that the NAACP was a organization for white people…Huuummm, you learn something new every day!

    Nice to meet you,
    Blessings!

    Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 8:57 pm ¶

11. Angel H. wrote:

    Oh, I get it! We’ve been punk’d, right?

    Right?

    Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 10:09 pm ¶

12. michael wrote:

    Love Angelina, but the NAACP “image” awards have always been a joke imo.

    Perhaps they’re hoping she shows up with Zahara in tow.

    Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 10:46 pm ¶

13. merq wrote:

    Frankly, I think she’s the most deserving of all the nominees, being that the award will be bestowed by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. (Ohh, the humor!!!)

    Get some perspective, NAACP. It’s about damn time.

    Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 11:10 pm ¶

14. LeAnne@hairsmystory wrote:

    Ohhhkay….
    interesting
    hairsmystory.com

    Posted 09 Jan 2008 at 11:19 pm ¶

15. Minkah wrote:

    The Image awards the NAACP gives out are clearly a joke. I need the NAACP to get slapped in the face by all the black folx who fought and died for equal rights so Angelina could get a pat on the back for being a “good” white person. I don’t care if she did adopt that African child which is problematic in and of itself. Didn’t they give Justin Timberlake the same award last year? Mess!!

    Posted 10 Jan 2008 at 12:58 am ¶

16. G.D. wrote:

    woooooow. it’s as if the Image Awards folks are hellbent on being out of touch.

    Posted 10 Jan 2008 at 4:19 am ¶

17. LM wrote:

    merq: Great line… LOL.

    Posted 10 Jan 2008 at 9:19 am ¶

18. CI wrote:

    Ashley re tan n’ curly perm: LMAO!!!

    This is a joke. I haven’t taken the NAACP seriously in years. If this was a ploy to get more attention (read:publicity, ratings) then it’s working. I bet you Angelina won’t even show.

    Posted 10 Jan 2008 at 12:40 pm ¶

19. Hawa wrote:

    impressive! VERY impressive!

    Posted 10 Jan 2008 at 2:01 pm ¶

20. lalalatina wrote:

    I’m pretty sure this award is for the positive portrayal of Black people. I say that because the ALMA Awards “promote fair, accurate, and balanced portrayals of Latinos in the entertainment industry.” Many of the actors (and winners) have been Italians, Jews, etc. who play Puerto Ricans on TV. There’s even a rumor that Janice Dickinson might get a special achievement type ALMA this year because her modeling agency started a Latin division.

    My 2cs.

    Posted 10 Jan 2008 at 5:18 pm ¶

21. Gregory A. Butler wrote:

    So, a White actress plays a lightskinned Black woman in a movie - and is nominated for an NAACP image award???

    Like the other posters said W T F??????

    Posted 10 Jan 2008 at 11:42 pm ¶

22. La - msviswan wrote:

    lalalatina wrote:

    “I’m pretty sure this award is for the positive portrayal of Black people.”

    That’s the thing, you see. M. Pearl herself once said in an interview that she does not define herself as “black”. Fine. After all that “black-face” chastising of the movie a year ago, the Pittsters tried to make it clear this movie was not about anyone being “black”. Fine. (M. Pearl and Jolie were previously friends also). So exactly, who’s “black” image did Jolie supposedly represent in this movie? At least to get nominated for the “black” image awards? Either you are in, or you are out.

    I think the NAACM got too desperate and out of order with this one. Shame.

    Posted 11 Jan 2008 at 10:16 am ¶

23. EvilAngelfish wrote:

    Actually, I find it interesting that while Marianne Pearl doesn’t consider herself “black”, the NAACP (and much of the rest of the world) clearly does.

    I think what lalalatina mentioned - the positive portrayal of a black person in the media - might be the intent behind the nomination but sometimes, it seems like they give image awards away for any portrayal of a black person on television or film, regardless of its caliber.

    Posted 11 Jan 2008 at 11:01 am ¶

24. GG wrote:

    This would be equivalent to John Travolta getting nominated for Best Actress because he played a woman in Hairspray. We all know he’s a man. This is a slap in the face to black actresses who, as it stands, already get very little recognition in this industry.

    Posted 14 Jan 2008 at 1:08 am ¶

25. Fiqah wrote:

    Lord… I said this already, but Angelina Jolie: all the fun of Black womanhood, minus all that pesky oppression stuff.

    Posted 14 Jan 2008 at 12:04 pm ¶

26. Kesh wrote:

    whuteva.

    Posted 17 Jan 2008 at 6:22 pm ¶

27. Menzi wrote:

    Let’s look at this another way. Marianne Pearl is biracial. Part Afro-Cuban and part White. Marianne Pearl said she is mixed so how does one decide, she asks, who portrays her. If she is BOTH Black and White - why can’t either a Black OR White actress portray her? She is both. Also, she personally CHOSE Angelina Jolie to portray her. Also, Angelina Jolie is a friend to the Black community. She has given millions to Darfur, orphans in Africa, Haiti and all over the world. Maybe more so than a lot of Black stars, I would say. Her daughter is Black from Ethiopia. Angelina did not put on Black face here - she just got a curly wig. Again, here is the question if a Black or biracial actress can play Marianne Pearl - why not a White actress. Marianne is no more Black than she is White. She is equally both. Period.

    Posted 19 Jan 2008 at 1:44 pm ¶

28. Menzi wrote:

    #

    Fiqah wrote:

    Lord… I said this already, but Angelina Jolie: all the fun of Black womanhood, minus all that pesky oppression stuff.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Exactly what is opressive about a groupf women - Black women - who have worked hard like no one else in this country? Women who were out cleaning and caaring for white people’s kids during slavery then who get shafted in modern times and still manage to bread winners, mothers, fathers, hard working, etc. What is opressive about that? Black women are winners because they are not fragile and week. Nothing opressive there.

    BTW, Angelina Jolie is part Native American - just thought I’d put it out there.

    Posted 19 Jan 2008 at 1:48 pm ¶

29. Menzi wrote:

    type o: black women are not WEAK I meant to say so nothing opressive about them. They are fabulous!

    Posted 19 Jan 2008 at 1:49 pm ¶

30. Menzi wrote:

    Minkah wrote:
    I don’t care if she did adopt that African child which is problematic in and of itself.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Oh cut it out already. Would you rather starving black children be left to rot in orphanages in Africa infested with disease and m,alnutrition? Should she have been left to die? And with the rising amount of AIDS cases in Africa, should little orphans be left there until Black people come to save them? And what if thos e Black people never do? So a black child does not deserve a good home but a good BLACK home? So how long do you suggest we wait til tehse dying black orphans are saved? Please let us know. For people like you are more interested in holiding on to your political ideals rather than actually helping the actual victims - black orphans. You’re full of it.

    Posted 19 Jan 2008 at 2:01 pm ¶

31. Angel H. wrote:

    Angelina did not put on Black face here…

    Yes, she did. She wore dark(er) make-up in order to portray someone with darker skin. The problem is, if they wanted an actress to portray Marianne Pearl with darker skin, why not just hire a darker-skinned actress? Personally, I don’t care that Jolie got the role. It’s the fact that they put make-up on her to make her seem darker, instead of leaving her skin the way it is, that pisses me off.

    Also, just because she adopts a baby from Africa, doesn’t get her a free “ghetto pass”. And what makes you think that Black actors and actresses aren’t contributing to those who are less fortunate? Just because Jolie happens to have a camera crew with you whenever she writes a check to charity, doesn’t mean that there are others who are doing less. And why did you say that she probablt did “more so than a lot of Black stars”? Why not compare her to White actors, also? Gee, I wonder…

    Exactly what is opressive about a groupf women - Black women - who have worked hard like no one else in this country?

    Sense your sarcasm-meter is malfunctioning, I’ll explain to you what Fiqah meant. The commenter remarked, in a humorous way, that Jolie was getting the supposed privileges of being a Black woman without having to deal with racism, oppression, etc. And even if she’s a direct descendant of Pocahontas and Sacagewea(sp?) she will never know what it feels like to be a woman of color. ‘Kay?

    Would you rather starving black children be left to rot in orphanages in Africa infested with disease and m,alnutrition? Should she have been left to die? And with the rising amount of AIDS cases in Africa, should little orphans be left there until Black people come to save them? And what if thos e Black people never do? So a black child does not deserve a good home but a good BLACK home? So how long do you suggest we wait til tehse dying black orphans are saved? Please let us know. For people like you are more interested in holiding on to your political ideals rather than actually helping the actual victims - black orphans. You’re full of it.

    Have you read anything else on this site at all? My theory is you were googling your fave actress, Angelina Jolie, and came upon our little community. Why don’t you stop now and take a little of the rest of the site.

    Go ahead. I’ll wait…

    …

    …Done? Good. Hopefully, by now you’ve seen the ignorance of your ways. If not, I’ll be more than happy to show you.

    First of all, after your little tour, you would realize that many of the commenters hear are international adoptees. (myself excluded) I really don’t think you want to go there with them.

    Secondly, no one can predict how Zahara’s life would have been if she hadn’t been adopted. Her mother is alive and well. Zahara may have grown up in that community a well-rounded, educated, woman. We don’t know.

    Oh and by the way, I’ve heard people make justifications like yours when arguing that slavery benefitted Blacks - just thought I’d put that out there.

    Posted 19 Jan 2008 at 5:12 pm ¶

32. Menzi wrote:

    Angel H.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    You see rants like yours are what fascinate me about racial discourse in this country. I am a Black woman whose mother cleaned toilets while getting her Masters Degree and my Dad worked 7 days in a factory to feed us. That you assume all kinds of nonsense about my lack of understanding of what goes on in this site is similar to what Obama has been going through in the press (not Black enough) or Oprah (hugging too many White people). Your arrogance is to the detriment of the path I think we Black folks need to be taking in our lives.

    Angelina Jolie DID NOT put on Black face for this movie. Did you see the movie??? Angelina Jolie is already an olive skinned woman so actually her skin tone is not that different from Marianne’s.

    And I love how we Blacks go out of our way to do anything in our power to CLAIM biracial or multiracial people. it is the Tiger Woods and Obama syndrome. We DEMAND Tiger Woods dismiss that his mother is Asian and full out claim he is only Black. Marianne Pearl said on Charlie Rose: who is to play her for she is Dutch and Afro-Cuban.

    Her is the question to which you did not answer of course: Should Gloria Estefan play her since she is Cuban? Should Angelina Jolie who is White? Or should Gabrielle Union who is Black? And for that matter should it be a biracial woman like Halle Berry? or should it be a triracial woman since that is what Marianne is : Latina, Black and White. Should the actress playing her be strictly French? Marianne is not American. What? What? What? How do we draw the line and where do we stop. What will satisfy us? Why is it so friggin crucial for us to claim all people who have some partial black lineage? What is this need to have them only claim us? And again: should Halle Berry not be considered for roles like “Things we lost in the fire” which was written for a White woman and she fought for it? Should roles written for White actresses only go to them?

    Marianne Pearl chose Jolie to play this role. How can you determine that you are more equipped to be accurate in determining how Marianne’s race is portrayed more than Marianne? You know what represents her more than she does?

    The issue of donating to Africa vis a vis Black entertainers: Don’t get me started! I have a HUGE problem that it took BONO from Ireland to put the idea that Africa had an AIDS issue in the forefront when African -Americans should have been on the forefront of that fight. It is a fact that many rappers, entertainers who were Black flat out refused to get involved in teh 90’s in any AIDS awareness programs or charities for fear that their super macho cultural stance would be associated with a disease that was largely perceived as a Gay one. I remember distinctly Arsenio Hall getting on national TV in the 90’s and making AIDS jokes. I remember distinctly movies like Stella Got Her Groove being challenged for some inaccurate gay dialogue in the film until they pulled it from DVD copies of the film. I am saying that why did it take Bob Geldof from the UK to do Live AID and before that the Live Aid single that influenced We Are The World?

    Did Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones, and the likes not know that there was famine in Africa at the time until the White man from England told them so? Why? I am saying Black entertainers are not doing enough - no they are not. Jay-Z gives, Oprah, Beyonce are some of the good ones. As a whole, why isn’t Ludacris in Africa? Where are all the African-American entertainers adipting little starving Black babies in Africa where in just one country orphans with AIDS can be in the milllions? Give me one name of an African-AMerican entertainer who has adopted from an impoverished African nation. ONE name please. I’d like three names but if you can come up with one I’d love it. And do me a favor, get a mirror and look at it long and hard.

    Posted 19 Jan 2008 at 7:11 pm ¶

33. Menzi wrote:

    I love it : you wonder how Zahara’s life would have been if not adopted. Oh I can tell you: she would have had a over 50% chace of being raped byt the time she was 18, she would have a higher chance of contracting AIDS, she would have not learned to read and write. She would have been lucky to live past 20. Research life expectancy for African girls in nations like Ethiopia and the Sudan and you can answer your own question. Zahara is lucky to have the best health care, a chance at being educated, to be able to eat 3 meals a day, and the opportunity to one day help her people. Yes, she is waaaaaaaaaay better off being adopted out of that orphanage where she almost died of samonela (sp) poisoning. Yes, she is. And that you can see that proves to me that too many people are way to comfy in their own experience to even begin to imagine the life of a starving child in Africa. You’re full of it.

    Posted 19 Jan 2008 at 7:17 pm ¶

34. Angel H. wrote:

    You see rants like yours are what fascinate me about racial discourse in this country. I am a Black woman whose mother cleaned toilets while getting her Masters Degree and my Dad worked 7 days in a factory to feed us. That you assume all kinds of nonsense about my lack of understanding of what goes on in this site is similar to what Obama has been going through in the press (not Black enough) or Oprah (hugging too many White people).

    Ignorance is colorblind; a fact that you’ve help to prove immensely.

    Angelina Jolie DID NOT put on Black face for this movie. Did you see the movie??? Angelina Jolie is already an olive skinned woman so actually her skin tone is not that different from Marianne’s.

    Let me ask you a personal question: Do you have any sort of malady of your eyes? Seriously? Otherwise, how can you think that that was her natural skin tone? To me, this and this are two very different skin tones. (One would think that a movie studio would give her something that wouldn’t make her look so orange!) Maybe you should consult an ophthalmologist.

    Once you get yours checked, go back and reread my post. Quote:

    Personally, I don’t care that Jolie got the role. It’s the fact that they put make-up on her to make her seem darker, instead of leaving her skin the way it is, that pisses me off.

    If they wanted someone with darker skin for the role, they should’ve hired someone with darker skin. If Marianne Pearl wanted Jolie to play the role, they should’ve left her skin tone the way it is.

    Don’t get me started! I have a HUGE problem that it took BONO from Ireland to put the idea that Africa had an AIDS issue in the forefront when African -Americans should have been on the forefront of that fight.

    Many Black actors and other activists had spoken up about AIDS and poverty in Africa. The reason that you hardly ever heard of them is because the only time a Black celebrity makes the news, is when s/he is being chased by the police or an angry baby-mama.

    Where are all the African-American entertainers adipting little starving Black babies in Africa where in just one country orphans with AIDS can be in the milllions?

    The only thing that adopting a child from a country in Africa will accomplish is to give that child a loving home and the parents a new member of their family to love. Adopting the children will not solve any problems. Is Malawi better off now that Madonna adopted a son from that country?

    I love it : you wonder how Zahara’s life would have been if not adopted. Oh I can tell you: she would have had a over 50% chace of being raped byt the time she was 18, she would have a higher chance of contracting AIDS, she would have not learned to read and write. She would have been lucky to live past 20.

    Prove it. Cite some anthropological studies. Link to a news report. Show me a magazine clipping about the economic stability of the average family in Ethiopia. Show me anything that says little children from Ethiopia will grow up miserable unless a nice White lady from the States will take them away.

    And while you’re at it. Fix your broken link.

    Posted 20 Jan 2008 at 12:12 pm ¶

35. Menzi wrote:

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    This comment is in violation of our comments policy, particularly:

    3. Don’t make personal attacks. If you’re not smart enough to win an argument without resorting to calling someone fat, stupid, crazy, or whatever, maybe you should work on your rhetorical skills.

    Your comment has been deleted.

    Menzi, please review our policy and resubmit your comment.

    Posted 20 Jan 2008 at 2:46 pm ¶

36. musicisourhigh wrote:

    I have no problem with her nomination. It has been more than a little while since the NAACP awards have been meaningful to me.

    Posted 20 Jan 2008 at 3:14 pm ¶

37. Menzi wrote:

    Alright Moderator,got ya - thanks for the heads up.

    Angel, this is my last post for have shown an inability to look beyond your own bias on this issue.

    You did not answer my question: since Marianne Pearl is triracia, who should play her then ? Glria Estefan who is Cuban? Halle Berry, Angelina Jolie, Juliette Binoche who is French like her, Gabrielle Union or a triracial actress??? Who? And who is anyone to tell a triracial person who should represent them?

    Why do we Black people get so obsessed about claiming biracial people as solely are own? Is it a way to upgrade the race by including all the lighter people and forcing them to solely embrace us?We want Tiger to deny his mother for being Asian - what next?

    And I have been a AIDS activist for I know plenty of Black people who suffered from the illness and I know for a FACT that many musicians/Hip Hop artists refused to be associated with a disease that is seen as a “Gay” one. This disconnect is the reason Black women have become the #1 AIDS group in America (Well besides our gov’t lack of health care education, etc) but we as a Black community have not helped. We wait until a White person gets on the boat then we follow. We should be honest with ourselves and admit this. When EZ E died in the 90’s, Hip Hop alienated itself from him completely.

    And stats on Ethiopia: do your own research. It is oft reported as fact that girls as young as 7 or 8 years old are sold into marriage in Ethiopia and this sexist and ancient practice has caused a great deal of AIDS cases in the country. Most girls (over 50%) are not educated and can’t read and write. Same in the Sudan and South Africa. There have been reports of little girls in the SUdan whose genitals have been mutilated from rape and torture. That you question the awful state of Black girls in Africa tells me all I need to know. No, Zahatra would not be better off in some orphanage. SHe would be dead by now. The life expectancy for a child in Ethiopia is one of the lowest in the world.

    I don’t care if a green person adopts a black child as long as there is one less child starving and eating flies in an orphanage.

    ANd if you have a problem with this, then start a campaign in your community to get black parents to adopt more black kids from Africa. They are dying. And you forgot to give me the name of that one Black entertainer who adopted from Africa. But never mind. It is useless.

    I am done. I volunteer, I walk the walk, I sponsor kids and my sister adopted overseas. We do what we can. I sincerely hope you understand Angelina Jolie is the least of our problems. Let’s talk about every black movie that comes out and casts a biracial or light skin actress as the love interest and the dark black girl as the loud mouth best friend and these are films made by blacks. Let’s talk about the Black women in Tyler Perry films. Let’s talk about hip hop videos and their portrayal of Black women.

    Let’s hold up a mirror and look at ourselves and see what a fine job we are doing denigrating our own people. The White man is the reason argument has lost its luster.

    You take care.

    Posted 20 Jan 2008 at 7:52 pm ¶

38. Angel H. wrote:

    You say that I am biased, but you are so full of your own agenda, that you can’t even see the words in front of you. You didn’t read a damn thing I wrote.

    Let’s try this slowly, one word at a time:

    I

    DON’T

    CARE

    THAT

    JOLIE

    GOT

    THAT

    ROLE.

    BUT,

    WEARING

    DARK

    MAKE-UP

    IS

    BAD.

    You’re the only one here who saying that Black people claim biracial/multi-racial people and ignore those people’s ancestry. Where did I say anything like that? I want quotes.

    And stats on Ethiopia: do your own research.

    Sorry. I don’t do other people’s homework.

    You quote some pretty little numbers there, but no citations. Gee. Wonder why?

    You’re presenting international adoption as the be-all, save-all for “third-world” (I hate that term) countries. No, I didn’t answer your question, but you didn’t answer mine: Is the country of Malawi any better off since Madonna’s adoption of David?

    Also, your cries of “Won’t somebody PLEEAAASE think of the children?” is in violation of Rule #2:

    
    DO NOT tell them or make them feel that you “saved” them.
    This is a huge mistake some adoptive parents make, one I’ve heard from adoptees time-and-time again. For example, a Korean adoptee once told me that she hated her white parents for telling her that they had saved her from a backward country and from living the rest of her life as a prostitute. Even if these children come from a country that is experiencing a great deal of social and political turmoil, even if they were living in abject poverty before you adopted them, you should never make them feel as if you were on some missionary kick. You are not living out Kiplings’ “White Man’s Burden.”

    I sincerely hope you understand Angelina Jolie is the least of our problems.

    So, on a racial scale from 1 to 10, how should this be rated?

    You claim to be an activist, but you don’t realize that every seemingly small issue of racism is part of the bigger problem. Think about it: Not being able to sit at the lunch with White customers, taken on its own, was not a “big deal”. Nor was having to move to the back of the bus. But those “minor” issues were part of a larger problem. Angelina Jolie in blackface - and being nominated for an award because of it - is part of a much larger that needs to be dismantled bit by bit.

    Let’s talk about every black movie that comes out and casts a biracial or light skin actress as the love interest and the dark black girl as the loud mouth best friend and these are films made by blacks. Let’s talk about the Black women in Tyler Perry films. Let’s talk about hip hop videos and their portrayal of Black women.

    And I’m supposed to be one so full of myself?

    I guess you never took my advice and actually read more than one post on this site. If you had, you would’ve realized that people - Black, Asian, Latin@, White - have been protesting those very same things. And continue to do so. It’s like I said before. But since you don’t read actually read my posts, I repeat myself: “The reason that you hardly ever heard of them is because the only time a Black celebrity makes the news, is when s/he is being chased by the police or an angry baby-mama.”

    Oh, and your link is still broken.

    Posted 20 Jan 2008 at 10:30 pm ¶

39. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    Angel H. & Menzi - Good conversation, but this has run its course. Please see the comment moderation policy:

    5. In general, let’s stay away from long, drawn-out arguments and fights. Once a thread descends into point-by-point refutations and denials, it has (not always, but a lot of the time) turned to crap.

    We are getting close to crap.

    Also, Menzi - I let it slide in this post, but be mindful of this part of the policy:

    8. Don’t respond to a post or comment by saying “why don’t you focus on some real issues like the war/starving children in Africa/police brutality/etc.” Newsflash: this is a blog about race and pop culture. If you’re not interested in discussing the intersection of those two things, please go elsewhere.

    Posted 21 Jan 2008 at 6:58 am ¶

40. Angel H. wrote:

    You’re right.

    I apologize to Latoya and everyone else for taking up so much screen time.

    Posted 21 Jan 2008 at 2:10 pm ¶

41. Menzi wrote:

    It’s Dr. Martin Luther King’s birthday celebration today. I am volunteering at a soup kitchen in his honor. Peace out to everyone. I stand by my point wholeheartedly.

    And I continue to walk the walk. I take action not just blog mindlessly. I am determined to make sure my Black brothers and sisters go from “the white man is the cause” victims to doing it for ourselves. May Dr. King’s legacy live. I will take my energy to joining Obama’s campaign rather than sitting on blogs arguing with people who just want to make a point. I am done.

    Happy MLK Day to all those who are living it. Peace. And I am still waiting for Malcolm X and Rosa Parks day…And Toussaint L’Ouverture Day!

    Posted 21 Jan 2008 at 4:52 pm ¶

42. Harv wrote:

    When did the NAACP and BET loose thier blackness.

    Posted 01 Feb 2008 at 11:59 am ¶

43. Anita wrote:

    Here
    is the list of NAACP Image Award nominees. It’s interesting to look at in the context of this conversation. (In case that link doesn’t work, the link is: http://www.naacp.org/news/press/2008-01-08/index.htm)

    Posted 05 Feb 2008 at 5:06 pm ¶

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