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1. Rob Schmidt wrote:

   Blacks and American Indians are in a similar position. If Indians limit themselves to the major online media (as I do), they still get the “it’s time to move on” message once or twice a month. At least.

   By the way, is Paris wearing the same shade of pink as Carmen? Is pink the new black? Inquiring minds want to know.

   Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 10:00 am ¶

2. Wendi Muse wrote:

   re: oscar de la hoya:
   i actually was like…hmmm whatev
   when i heard about it, i thought “wow, it’s amazing what gender boundaries we have…if a woman decided to dress up in a man’s suit and take pictures with a male stripper, no one would think anything of it.”
   and while women’s gender roles are surely defined, no doubt about it, we have a little more flexibility than men…especially in the clothing and grooming department
   if i dated a guy who wanted to wear fishnets during sex, i’d be like…whatever…if that turns you on and doesn’t affect me, then so be it lol

   i feel more bad for a society that freaks out when they see men in tights than the men who enjoy wearing them

   Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 10:24 am ¶

3. Meena wrote:

   re: Adrienne Curry
   I read this story originally on perezhilton and I was ready just to dismiss it until I read the comments following the story. They were very troubling because the majority of the commenters were agreeing with her and I realized that many people share her opinion. We actually talked about this in one of my classes at NYU and many people were agreeing with her, because they don’t get to have White History Month or White Entertainment Channels.

   Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 10:46 am ¶

4. Meena wrote:

   ok basically what I’m saying is at face value, her blog seems stupid and whiny but she voiced what many people may actually believe…..frustrating as it maybe.

   I couldn’t believe that I was sitting in a classroom while some of the white students decried Black, Latino, and Asian American history months without acknowledging that every other channel is White Entertainment Channel. Or recognizing that besides February, its more or less White History Year…

   Adrienne Curry frustrates me

   Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 11:02 am ¶

5. summer wrote:

   re: oscar> the jury needs to come back quickly. those de la hoya pics are so fake they give photoshop a bad name. that’s like somebody used the delivered microsoft paint application.

   re: adrienne> there will always be ignorant people like her. it’s passed on from generation to generation. i accepted this a long time ago, and it brings me great peace and the ability to ignore fools.

   Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 11:57 am ¶

6. Shawn wrote:

   I have come across rants like these buy white people. What I do not understand is how in the world can white people complain about not having white history month or white entertainment television? It is very frustrating when you’re trying to show people things that are right in front of their eyes, yet they refuse to see it. They act like they are marginalized in America. White people are today overrepresented in every aspect of American culture from politics to entertainment.

   In the end, I just say “what’s in a name?” Everyshow on TV is a subtle celebration of whiteness. The fact that they are not on WET doesn’t take away from the fact all the cast members are white and virtually none of us color folks. Friends, Sex and the City, Desperate housewive, MTV, every soaps.

   Some people are just ignorant.

   Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 12:22 pm ¶

7. Mireille wrote:

   I was under the impression that every month was white history month. Or, at least, The Elites of the the Continental United States and Western European History Month. No, seriously, when was the last time you heard anyone teaching about African, Asian or Latin American history outside of the context of colonial expansion outside of college? My world history class in high school was a joke!

   I think the de la Hoya thing was mostly a joke. Even if it was him, I know more than one macho-man who dressed up in women’s clothes because they thought it was funny. I spent most of my adolescence in the theatre with a lot of guys who were really secure with their masculinity. They cuddled with each other, wore makeup and ran around in drag for the hell of it. I am so unphased by men doing things outside of traditional gender roles. I’m always surprised when it’s an issue.

   And Paris Hilton is just trying to stay relevant. She’s grasping at straws at this point.

   Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 12:45 pm ¶

8. Jack D. wrote:

   Racism makes me tired. Stupid people wear me down.

   Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 1:24 pm ¶

9. FrancesM wrote:

   I thought Oscar looked quite fetching is fishnet!
   ~F

   Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 2:00 pm ¶

10. HighJive wrote:

    “Yes, I get it. Black people were slaves here once. You know what? That does suck some major balls, however, it is time to move the f*ck on.”

    she says that like sucking major balls is a bad thing.

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 3:10 pm ¶

11. hoo_boy wrote:

    Re Oscar: Don’t forget his foresister Joe Namath, who also proudly wore pantyhose (albeit for commerce). Photoshop or not, may your big legs show through them holes indeed…

    Re Curry: Agreed on all the milk, mayo, and wonder bread that gags me in culture, but I keep wondering if there isn’t an overlooked subtext that has nothing to do with supremacy or the “everything is white” rebuttal, both of which are too facile and stupid for words– and unfair to those who are “unwhite” or “a little of both”.

    Has it ever dawned on anyone to respond that “white” isn’t and shouldn’t be your identity whereas these celebratory months and channels focus on culture and ethnicity?

    Or/and if there is growing alienation among traditional “white”– isn’t it a sign that “white media/culture” is a joke or falsehood, can’t deliver the goods, or isn’t feeding the supposed class of masses the public (including voices of color) assúmes it does? Have people finally recognized the need for some color/flavor in their worlds?

    [NOTE: *I’m* still waiting for black entertainment television as well. Guess I could continue to read a book in the meantime or something…]

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 3:52 pm ¶

12. Wendi Muse wrote:

    follow up #1 re: adrian curry
    from her blog:
    September 23, 2007 - Sunday
    Rebuttal to my Black History blog

    Yep, I gotta try to clarify a few things here.

    Firstly, I just want to apologize for how random my thoughts were in my last blog. I wrote what I did just minutes after a long heated discussion on the topic. I can hardly read the thing, it’s so damn random!

    I think it is HORRIBLE that people misunderstood my message. Just because I wanted to stop separating races, doesn’t mean I want to STOP TEACHING HISTORY! Or schools need to teach MORE of ALL of it anyway! I was asking that we not name things to separate ourselves. I never claimed we shouldn’t learn our own history, or that of all the other countries on earth (which we as Americans are pretty bad at). I am very aware of all the amazing things hat black people have done for our country, and we should always be aware of it. However, separating our races sounds like racism to me. It just does. So go ahead, claim I am the one who is ignorant for wanting us all to be EQUAL! Can you believe that? How does that make a fucking lick of sense? Honor your heritage, I know I do. Just make sure that by doing so, you do not seperate yourself from the rest of us! Black History to me would be everything that happened in AFRICA. I lived there for almost 5 months. Visted Robin Island, and saw the cell they held Nelson Mandela in. I witnesses first hand people calling these taxi vans “Black Taxis” and these nice taxi’s “white taxis”. Just vile.THAT is African(black if you will) history. African AMERICAN history is OUR history!

    Yes, there was a time when racism ran rapid. It still does in some places. However, it is time for us to rise above it and BECOME ONE, instead of SOME. I wrote my last blog in such hurry and a fury because I felt what I was typing so deeply. I am appalled that anyone would claim I am just some stupid white bitch that doesn’t know shit about anything. I did NOT grow up rich. I did NOT hang out with rich people. Watch the show “Roseanne” and you tell ME if that family seemed well off. That is just about where I came from. My family is blue collar all the way! Just because I worked hard to get where I am it means I don’t know how hard it is to LIVE LIFE? I was addicted to drugs, raped, abused, beaten, etc. I DO NOT DWELL ON IT! I choose to rise above it! I have been beaten up for being “the white girl” a few times, so don’t tell me I don’t know how it feels to be discriminated against.

    My message about trying to rise above segregation, separation, and racism has been twisted. Some people are saying I am RACIST for wanting all races to embrace each other! You’re a fucking dumbass if that is what you think! Again, let me make this clear, I DO NOT SUPPORT THE SEPERATION OF RACE IN THIS COUNTRY, ANY RACE. I DO NOT SUPPORT CHANELS OR FUNDS THAT SEPARATE RACE, HENCE ADDING TO RACISM! I never claimed to STOP teaching history that involves black people, I asked to STOP BEING RACIST BY SEPERATING GROUPS BY RACE! Truly educate yourselves on the true definition of segregation.

    I enjoy sharing my thoughts here. Some people like it, and some people don’t. I come from an incredibly political family. (I am a Democrat). I enjoy a heated debate. I didn’t mean to “single out” only the black months/funds/channels. It was more of an example of how NO RACE should attempt to separate itself in such a way that ADDS to the problem with racism. Stop singling people out, and maybe…just maybe, the future will be full of people that were NEVER raised thinking people are so different because of their skin.

    I wrote about what I did because I care. It makes me physically ill knowing that there are people that are still so closed minded out there that they hate someone because of their skin. My hope is that one day we will all wonder how anyone could have done that. I think that we need to teach MORE history in our schools. Of course, even more world history. I also think we should be more aware of what is happing in other countries. Of everywhere I have been on Earth, ..:NAMESPACE PREFIX = ST1 />America shows the least news on what’s happing outside our “world”.

    This felt good. I feel like I have got my point across better this time. I need to learn to relax on my impulse and calm down before I share. ; ) My Boo always tells me that. Thanks for listening.

    EDITED NOTE:: thanks to all of u who can not agree with me and still come off classy and NICE. I am having a live show tonight (MONDAY)at http://www.nowlive.com it will be on from 5-7 Pacific, 7-9 central, and 8-10 eastern. Join me and my special co-host J-cred as we discuss all of this. Special Guests? My nowlive and myspace friends, my mother, and my husband…hope to see you guys there!

    follow up #2
    September 25, 2007 - Tuesday

    LISTEN to my interview about my blogs/NOT boycotting

    Last night I hosted a live radio/webcam show to have people call in and talk to me about my blogs. Beside ONE caller who called in yelling and talking about things I had never said (I was only interested in discussing what I did say) it was a productive show. FYI, if anyone ever does happen to call into my show, I AM A HOST. If I don’tm like the way someone is “taking over” my show and not “debating” and only yelling about stuff, your out ; )

    I hope anyone who was upset by my blogs listens to this show. My husband was the first guest, followed by

    my Mother, and many people from http://www.nowlive.com, myspace, and new friends/enemies alike. THANK YOU to all who called in and let me know their opinions in a mature manner. I was pleased…and happy that those of you who did not agree were able to hear me out. Being labled racisist is the most horrible thing I think I have ever gone through. It’s amazing how much my words have been twisted. Granted, I was pretty clumsy in my approach, but my heart was there. Boycotting BET and Black Hostory month was only about boycotting the NAMES untill every race that makes up America has a month, or we just choose to teach MORE without having to seperate anything by race. Obviously I said it in a RANT, and many people don’t know who I am, or that I operate on “shock factor” if you will. The people who know me know my heart, and that is what I will hang onto.

    I guess I am kinda sad. I have written about so many things in the last year or so. Many of the things I wrote about could have USED the publicity that I am getting now. No one is ever interested in helping people out.just sinking them…click the player below and listen to the last show on September 25th.

    EDITED NOTE:: I am a perfect example of our failed public school system. My underlying message was of good intent, but I am VERY aware that some of the things I said were untrue and stupid. I have learned that I cannot put all my thoughts down for everyone to see. I need to think before I press send. I am sorry to those I have offended, because it CERTAINLY was NOT my intent. I am not sorry for what I was TRYING to say, because I still think complete unity is a good thing. However, I have been EDUCATED by many SMART African Americans in my blog comments as to WHY we probably STILL need to have a Black History month…I get it…I await the day when racism dies, and nothing like this will be an issue anymore. I am NOT boycotting BET or Black History, it was a random, and not well though out, thought. I am a human being, and I make major mistakes all the time, this being one of them. I do think that African Americans are selling themselves short with only one month, and I can’t wait for the day when we recognize ALL of our contributions to this country ALL YEAR LONG. My intent was good, my sources were obviously not CNN. I am sorry for the stupid things I said, but not sorry for wanting to unite. I GET IT. I understand why I was in the wrong, and that’s all I can do.

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 4:24 pm ¶

13. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    For those who don’t follow racial rants closely, the “move on” argument is commonplace. Yet these nattering nabobs never say we should move on from President’s Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Memorial Day, the Fourth of July, Columbus Day, Thanksgiving, etc. Nor do they argue that we should stop holding parades and start tearing down monuments such as Mt. Rushmore and the Statue of Liberty. No need to move on from these memorials.

    No, it’s perfectly okay to honor the past–as long as it’s the white majoritarian past that “everyone” agrees on. Remembering slavery or genocide is bad; remembering Founding Fathers or Civil War victories is good.

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 5:46 pm ¶

14. Rob Schmidt wrote:

    In response to Wendi’s rant: American Indian tribes have arguably maintained their strength by maintaining their distance. They’ve outlasted Indian agents who came in to remove their children or ban their ceremonies. Isolation = continued existence and assimilation = death.

    Of course, most Indians live in cities, so it’s not as if living on a reservation is a popular choice. But the existence of “segregated” enclaves gives them an alternative. It gives them a heritage, roots, ties…something many Americans sorely lack.

    That’s true of any ethnic enclave–for instance, your typical Chinatown. I see nothing wrong with separating yourself if it helps you preserve your language and culture. Living however you wish, in the pursuit of happiness, is central to the American dream.

    See “Should Indians Cling to Reservations?” (http://www.bluecorncomics.com/cling.htm) for more on this argument.

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 5:54 pm ¶

15. S wrote:

    A CLASSIC example of how jackasses keep breeding jackasses. Sad thing is, there are so many idot chicks like her. Ooooh, she like, knows what it feels like to be discriminated against cause she was beat up “a few times”. Wow, how many black people are there out there that could only WISH they had been discriminated against ONLY A FEW TIMES???
    And think, she came on a BLACK woman’s show to jumpstart her career. I highly doubt if she spout off any of this anti-black BS to Tyra.
    Funny how black & Latino people always end up being the target of spoiled white people’s little whinny rants. She should get a life and take her own advice…move on! Why is she so worried about TAKING AWAY from the black community if she really “cares”? She doesn’t. Spoiled whinny white people only care about themselves, especially the shallow bratty women. Most end up making selfish comments like hers - just listen, it’s like clockwork.
    Thank GOD the whole race isn’t like that! Could you imagine? 1950’s all over again!

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 6:47 pm ¶

16. deb wrote:

    Adrian should read these essays by Tim Wise: On White Pride and Other Delusions: Reflections on the Rage of the Uninformed and White Whine: Reflections on the Brain-Rotting Properties of Privilege.

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 6:49 pm ¶

17. Angel H. wrote:

    Shorter Curry:

    “Bad publicity sucks. I’M SORRY, OKAY?!!111?!”

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 7:44 pm ¶

18. Wendi Muse wrote:

    careful, Rob. those are not my words. that is a copy/paste job from ADRIAN CURRY’s BLOG, hence my opening the statement with that very information…not my words lol…just to clarify

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 8:06 pm ¶

19. dnA wrote:

    I think my favorite part of Adrian Curry’s blog entry is the part where she says Jews never complain about the Holocaust. We complain about the Holocaust ALL THE FREAKING TIME! I was bitching about it earlier today.

    What a moron.

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 9:59 pm ¶

20. Siegs wrote:

    deb: Fantastic articles! Thanks for the links.

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 10:57 pm ¶

21. damie_dee wrote:

    She says she is Multiracial, and not White in her reply section….

    [“I am not white. I am Italian/Native American/and Irish.. So no, I will not “embrace” being white, because I embrace EVERYTHING I am, and the majority of it is NOT WHITE. sorry, but I had to clarify that]

    Posted by ADRIANNE CURRY adriannemcurry.com on September 26, 2007 - Wednesday at 7:57 PM”

    Posted 28 Sep 2007 at 11:34 pm ¶

22. Mike wrote:

    Ima not sure exactly what Paris’s intentions are but any attention given Rwanda is good. It’ll keep it on the mind of Americans who have the memory of a goldfish.

    I doubt Oscar would be that careless to let pics like this to be taken. But if it is him so what, who is going to tell A 5 time prizefighting champ anything diffrent? It’s no big deal because he is in the most macho of sports. He’ll get a pass. There is a double standard with women but a women in drag is not a threat to a mans world like a man in a dress. That is an out right assault on what it means to be a man in America.

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 2:28 am ¶

23. AssamTea wrote:

    So growing up poor is the same as growing up nonwhite?

    If you grow up poor, you cannot be racist?

    She says she doesn’t dwell on being poor and abused but I remember it being something she constantly brought up on ANTM. Hmmm…

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 3:10 am ¶

24. Anremel wrote:

    I am really tired of Black people being accused of segregation and racism. It gives us power that we don’t have. Segregation when it comes to neighborhoods, schools, and even clubs or organization are mainly the result of white flight or exclusion. So after Blacks have been abandoned by their fellow citizens or discriminated against to the point we have to form our own schools and organizations then you have Black people who have legitimate fears for their own safety or the safety of their children, are then attacked as being racist. Anyone who calls a Black person a racist for wanting to attend a HBCU or an organization shows me that they do not understand racism. In the words of Stevie Wonder, ” When you believe in things that you don’t understand then you suffer”. In other words when you believe you know the cause and cure for racism when you really don’t understand it or try to suggest whys to solve it without understanding the problem. It is amazing to me the way non whites think they understand racism committed by whites. Whites don’t even understand it. All they know is they want to only see themselves in power and only want non whites around in subserviant postions otherwise they start feeling uncomfortable. Well if anyone feels that when Blacks do whatever it takes to survive and have a level of safety is racism then I will be racist to protect myself and my family. Give us some credit, we have survived racism for centuries in this country so we must know what we are doing. Sometimes staying alive means accepting segregation, at least for now. I know where I live, the integration of a white surburb came at the expense of a Black man dying. In the middle of the night, a group of white men came to harass his family and he was shot. This happened when I was young but I still remember the incident. Now that I am older I look at this integrated community and I can tell you that it was not worth it for a family who then had to move because the head of the household was killed. Unless you are willing to put your life and the life of your family on the line then don’t call other people names when they don’t want to do that. Jena Six is what Blacks get when we try to integrate. Also I notice when segregation is criticized, why is it with all the White examples of segregation it is Blacks being called out for segregating? Well I will take your example when you prove to me that being in the White population was safe and the Blacks were being treated fairly and segregation wasn’t forced upon them. I forget what Black activist said it but she stated integration is just the illusion of inclusion. I am afraid Wendi you fell for the illusion. Blacks were never included, just used. I also wonder as this post started off focused but has turned into rambling….why doesn’t anyone talk about how they will be glad when misogyny is erradicated? I think the unexpected big problem within the Black community is misogny which is a major surprise to me given the level of Black households headed my females. Then again, I guess with all the male parents missing from the Black family I guess misogny explains why. So to try to put this ramble together, I see racism and misogny the same. No one says they will be glad for the time men stop hating on women. It is almost accepted and women protect themselves as best they can through the law and using common sense and go on with life. I think we better stop hoping for a utopia because people will always find a reason to think they are better than others and to hate seems to be a “natural” emotion. Lets talk about it with common sense. Stop talking people into living dangerously or sending their children into dangerous situations. Maybe a city, or neighborhood, or school or organization can one day be integrated but I find it insensitive and ignorant to tell others to put their life on the line so others can be comfortable. Don’t be stupid and think just because something is all Black, it is that way solely because the people wanted it that way. You and I both know if Whites wanted to attend or participate they would be in court tomorrow fighting for their rights. Ever heard of the fable about the fox and the grapes. Of course if all you can do is create your own organization you are going to make the best of it. What people would be dumb enough to segregate themselves at the risk of economic and social harm which is what happens when any minority group who lives in America separates? Bashing people who are already suffering is not going to solve the problem. Also when anyone talks about segregation but uses Blacks (the favorite and only target it seems for this) all it tells me is you don’t want to really address the problem. It is like trying to discuss rape but only point out that women shouldn’t wear short skirts. Come on Wendi you are too educated to be discussing segregation but the group you want to use as an example are Black people or talk about Blacks beating you up. If all you had to worry about was being beat up by Blacks you would have a charmed life because there are so many places that we don’t have access to in America. You could live your whole life in America and have a full life yet never come across a Black person.

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 4:24 am ¶

25. Gregory A. Butler wrote:

    1 - Paris Hilton.

    She’s trying to be a low budget Angelina Jolie (and, apparently, some of her people forgot that the genocide ended 12 years ago!)

    2 - Oscar De La Hoya

    I really have to question this statement, Carmen : “it’s not uncommon for men to have fetishes for wearing women’s underwear, or for engaging in cross-dressing of some kind. It doesn’t mean they’re gay, or trans, or anything, really.”

    I don’t know what kind of men you hang out with, but, to me (a very much straight identified man) a guy in women’s clothing is inherently gay - or at the very least bisexual!

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that!

    And that’s especially true with De La Hoya, [who now more than ever is the “pretty boy of the middleweight division”]

    A guy who has sex parties that involve both female and male strippers - with both the ladies and the fellas “doing whatever he wanted”?

    A guy who makes a hotel chair into a pretend motorcycle, with one of the female strippers as the “guy” on the front, and him as the “girl” squealing with delight on the back?

    And of course the fishnets (even if those photos ARE fake - they are, at worst, simulated reinactments of real events)

    Does any of that stuff sound heterosexual?

    Not to me!

    But, considering how homoerotic sports in general and boxing in particular are, it’s not suprising that a guy who was born into the sport, and has been hanging out with the fellas at the gym since he was an elementary school aged boy, would have those kind of tendencies.

    Remember, boxers spend a LOT of time naked around other men - in the locker room, in the shower, getting rub downs from their trainer ect.

    And, if you’ve ever watched boxers with their cornermen, it can get very sensual and intimate

    Men servicing the body of another man, - giving him water, oiling him up, putting vaseline on his wounds ect - and that man is simultaneously very strong and yet, due to the gloves, is powerless to take care of the simplest bodily need without assistance from another man.

    It’s not suprising that there are gay men in the squared circle.

    Lennox Lewis, anyone?

    And, of course, the famous case from the 50’s of Emile Griffith - the boxer who was openly ridiculed as gay in the sports pages (they called him a “hat designer” as a code to his sexual orientation) and who beat Benny “Kid” Paret to death in the ring because Paret called him a maricon (Spanish for “f****t”) during a televised title match.

    The REAL tragedy is that, at least in this day and time, no male prizefighter can ever come out of the closet - lest he get blackballed from the sport by HBO, Cinemax, B Sky B, Don King, Bob Arum, Harry Kushner ect - and lest he face the Kid Paret treatment (or worse) from his fellow pugilists.

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 9:34 am ¶

26. Gregory A. Butler wrote:

    3. Adrienne Curry

    Just another racist idiot!

    As I once had to say to a White coworker “they have White Entertainment Television on 499 channels, and we only have one, so quit bitching!”

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 9:35 am ¶

27. gatamala wrote:

    may your big legs show through them holes indeed…

    FISHNET black pantyhose….

    @ deb: does it have pictures?

    Adrianne Curry IS white supremacy incarnate. She set white folks and ball sucking back 50 years.

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 12:41 pm ¶

28. Mike wrote:

    Gregory A. Butler

    What the hell fights have you been watching?! Ive yet to see a fight with any homoerotic displays let alone in the dang corner. I don’t think you know the sport at all. Boxing is the equal of a three ring circus, there is nothing it wont cross, if a gay dude can fight and has a fan base that will come out to support him you better believe some one will promote it. Boxing was the first sport to cross the color line, and the gay line. Every one knew how Griffith was back, he chose to deny it. But the people still came to see the fights. And I missed the part were Lennox “Ox’ Lewis came out the closet maybe you have a link to were he confessed this? If there is any sport that will sell it’s soul for the green its boxing. And we all know that is the one color that trumps all. The networks and promoters can give a d@mn if your gay or not as long as you can fill the seats. Boxing is all about tribalism, white vs black, irish vs itlalian, mexican vs puerto rican. People will pick the side the side they are familiar with, but if you put up a fight, the more mature fans will cross the lines and pick you out. The irony is that a sport that is so brutal, savage and prehistoric can be an example of diversity, racial and cultural harmony.

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 5:21 pm ¶

29. Mike wrote:

    P.S.

    Taylor over Palvik in 10.

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 5:24 pm ¶

30. Bruce Banner wrote:

    Every other channel is WET.

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 7:54 pm ¶

31. Colin wrote:

    It’s funny that a person whose career is more or less based on sex would use “sucks major balls” as a derogatory and not congratulatory statement. Just another nutjob to me. (pun partially intended)

    Posted 29 Sep 2007 at 8:52 pm ¶

32. Mike wrote:

    Dang it!! Pavlik in 7.

    Posted 30 Sep 2007 at 12:02 am ¶

33. Mike wrote:

    You should see the Great White Hope returns comments at ESPN’s website. You’d think they locked up Bin Laden and OJ at the ame time.

    Posted 30 Sep 2007 at 12:05 am ¶

34. La - msviswan wrote:

    Summer said: “there will always be ignorant people like her. it’s passed on from generation to generation. i accepted this a long time ago, and it brings me great peace and the ability to ignore fools.”

    You can’t always ignore “fools”, they don’t go away by doing that. You would only give them privacy to out breed everyone else and pass on their ignorance. Have you ever seen the movie “Idiocracy”? lol

    Actually, this dangerous mentality is bigger than Curry. It seems most white people in particular actually share her sentiments, even if they only talk about it among themselves. Keep ignoring ignorance and history has a nasty way of getting distorted. These people still have the ability to tell future generations that slavery never even existed. It’s also important for black and Native American parents to pass on the importance of American History to their children, and not fall for that slick assimilating amnesia bait.

    Without the importance of Black History, soon you would hear that Africans actually asked to come over, but were to lazy to work and own land/prosperity like everyone else back then. I bet she would never dare say “get over it” to the Jewish community, at least not without media repercussions.

    Rob made some good points in perspective about Presidents day, and St. Patrick’s day celebration etc…

    Posted 30 Sep 2007 at 11:01 am ¶

35. Sarah wrote:

    Gregory A. Butler: Just because a man wears womens clothing doesn’t mean he’s gay. Many heterosexual men dress that way for a fetishistic thrill, because they love women so much and want to feel closer to them (Eddie Izzard, dude). And there’s plenty of gender play going on between straight couples all the time.

    In the end, we don’t even know if these pics are real, and I don’t care either way. If they’re real, it’s a matter of personal sexual expression, and trying to pin down de la Hoya’s sexuality is just like going up to a mixed-race person and asking “What race are you? Pick one.” People are way too dependent on categorizing these days, which impedes our ability to deal with the diverse spectrum that is humanity.

    Posted 30 Sep 2007 at 12:11 pm ¶

36. La - msviswan wrote:

    Ok men, calm down. She’s actually insulting slavery and racism by comparing it to “sucking balls” Not the other way around. This is the bigger picture here, please stay focus. Thanks

    Posted 30 Sep 2007 at 1:42 pm ¶

37. deb wrote:

    FISHNET black pantyhose….

    Ha-ha, gatamala! Exactly what I was singing when I saw the de la Hoya pix! btw, no pix associated with the essays.

    Posted 30 Sep 2007 at 3:22 pm ¶

38. egypt4 wrote:

    I wondered if folks here heard Sherri from the View’s comment about Paris Hilton going to Rwanda. Somehow, I think the folks who were bashing her last week might agree with her new comments about transracial adoption. (Which is a bummer.)

    Posted 01 Oct 2007 at 8:06 am ¶

39. Kenny wrote:

    I never realized Adrianne Curry was so ignorant. I guess the fact that Black history is not included in American History classes has had an effect. Older White people know full well why Blacks have their own organizations etc. . I wonder if Curry is also offended by St Patricks day and the Oktoberfest?

    Posted 01 Oct 2007 at 8:43 am ¶

40. Mi wrote:

    Oh yes…

    THIS is the chick I want deciding if there should be a Black history month *rolls eyes*

    [img]http://thesuperficial.com/2007/07/adrianne-curry-playboy-mansion-03.jpg[/img]

    Posted 07 Nov 2007 at 10:35 pm ¶

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