A Quick Reflection on Being “Black”

by Racialicious Special Correspondent Latoya Peterson

The Talented Ms. Muse asked “What is Blackness?” on Monday.

I still haven’t been able to think of an answer.

I have a black experience.

[Note: that is a black experience, not the black experience.]

I grew up educated in classic black literature. Most of my early books were from the Afrobets series. My mother was so adamant that I would escape the taint of ingrained white supremacy that lurks in the American social consciousness that she went to the opposite extreme. I learned to reject Aryan beauty ideals. I learned to hold a deep seated mistrust for white people, even growing up in the late 1980s in a predominantly white suburb. I became so accustomed to seeing everything reflected through an African American perspective. Most of my books were by black authors. If I watched television, it was normally something on Howard University television. I went to African-American expos and black family reunions. One Christmas, I remember my mother putting foundation on a Santa Claus ornament, literally painting his face black. I remember feeling a strong sense of pride at being born black.

Then, thirteen years into my black experience, I was called a racist by another black friend, and spent my teen years reevaluating how I viewed the world. I decided to try things that were outside of the generally accepted norms of black society, rebelling against my hip-hop household with rock and roll, adopting different styles, taking the time to learn about the struggles of other cultures, and a different set of friends.

At sixteen, I finally learned to ignore groupthink and just be myself. I came to the conclusion that blackness cannot be quantified in simple actions or the way words are spoken. As a result, over the last few years, I have learned to challenge and release some of the notions I held about interracial dating, about white people in general, and about the preconceived notions of what makes a person authentically black.

My friends also have their own stories of blackness. One is an African-American, in the process of converting to Judaism, who has found a synagogue that will embrace his sexual orientation, and spends his time traveling the globe.

I have another friend who has become accustomed to being the only black girl at the indie rock show, who finds as much style inspiration in Marilyn Manson as she does as Marilyn Monroe.

One friend self-identifies as black, even though she is technically mixed. While she feels more comfortable with her African-American heritage, she constantly battles misconceptions about her attitude and outlook - with light skin, long hair, and green eyes, she has seen the worst of our internal color wars.

A fourth friend does not identify as African-American - yet, because of the pigmentation of her skin, she is often tagged with the label. A fifth friend embraces his African-American heritage, but is constantly challenged about his blackness because he tends to date white women.

These are all stories that involve living while black - but do those experiences come close to defining blackness?

While I have become quite comfortable in my skin, and love hanging with my band of “one black” (or Latino or Asian) kids, I still have not uncovered the answer to Wendi’s question, which I first asked myself at thirteen:

What does it mean to be black?

At first, I believed in the stereotypical norms of being black, becoming painfully aware that they did not reflect my reality in the slightest.

Later, as I let go of society’s collective opinion about what it means to be black, I began to think being black only meant having a solid grasp of history and collective responsibility to the community. While I like that answer the most, it is not entirely true - there are many blacks who are willfully ignorant of their history, or devoid of a sense of collective responsibility. In the eyes of society, that does not make them any less black. So scratch that theory.

Then, I thought being black was an immutable given, as determined by your ethnic background - but that answer falls short on so many different levels.

I would like to say that being black is simply to claim blackness, but that is not quite true either. Does being black refer to specific hardships? Specific actions? Maintaining a certain kind of hairstyle? Being able to freestyle on command? Making sure your Melanin Quotient (MQ) stays in the high 90s?

What makes blackness so hard to define is that it implies there is a specific black experience that can be used as a reference. However, there is no specific black experience – there are many different stories that may overlap and interweave, but no definitive black experience.

No one is issued a “how to be black” handbook at birth – and I am sure if we were, half of us would spend our time rebelling against the guidelines in the book.

So, what is blackness?

I’m not sure there will ever be an answer to that question.

In the meantime, I’ll just continue being unapologetically myself.

Maybe I can reshape the idea of blackness into something that is reflective of my own experience.

Maybe.

Trackbacks & Pings

  1. We Want You. . . To Think Just Like Us at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture on 09 Aug 2007 at 9:44 am

    […] slip of the tongue from a baseball player, a new vocab word from a golf pro, or the intelligent musings of Ms. Peterson remind us that there fails to be a set definition of different racial groups and […]

Comments

  1. Neil wrote:

    Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful, Latoya!

  2. Wendi Muse wrote:

    thanks for the h/t, woot! anyway, i posed the question for the readers of The Coup Magazine’s blog because i was thinking about how my position there requires that i write (for the most part) about issues affecting black women. but as i was sitting there, trying to figure out what to write, i couldn’t get past what the word “black” means. it’s so relative. then when i thought about “blackness,” a term that connotes an essence of being black, living black, and all those other progressive verbs that come before “black,” i realized that i didn’t REALLY have an answer, so i wanted to see how readers wrapped their head around it.

    i also think the concept creates a real challenge as far as activism is concerned. it’s sort of like when we declared a war on terrorism before there was a formal definition of the term from the UN perspective. how can we unify, make change, address community issues if the community, or at least the essence therein, has yet to be fully addressed or defined? is that lack of definition part of the essence? (i tend to think so, but some activists would disagree).

    it’s a difficult question.

    p.s. i can totally level with the santa claus bit lol. my mom and i used to use crayons/colored pencils to color in the faces of people on greeting cards that we’d send to our family, taking care to appropriately match the beiges, yellows, tans, and browns of my family members. We’d occasionally color in/add curls to the hair as well lol.

  3. T.L. Corners wrote:

    Brilliant article. I envy, but at the same time don’t, black people who use terms like, “You’re not black.” when talking to a black person as if black were an attitude or way of living. A religion.

    It seems that “black” has too many meanings to count. Are you black if YOU say you’re black or does an outside group get to decide? Maybe I should just throw my hands in the air, and just say, “I’m just a person”. SCREW the blackness… Though I AM black… Am I?… Whatever. I don’t know anymore.

    Great article though.

  4. 317tiger wrote:

    I grew up in the Bronx and lived there my whole life until I turned 18. it was so hard to find people I related to in my hood. I read afrobets as a kid, have my septum pierced, tats and I work at a bank. I was constatnly told growing up that i was not black. I have a Spanish name and my parents are from Honduras. Basically i loved this entry and the other about body art!

  5. Bryan wrote:

    For me blackness is a state of awareness of the continuning struggle of african peoples not only in America but all over the world and attempting to find your place in that struggle.

    Its not about doing what other black people do, necessarily, but its a shared set of values that comes along with the experience of being African-American.

    Its knowing where you come from and celebrating the sacafices made by those that came before you.

  6. tstorm wrote:

    Great essay. Perhaps this goes without saying, but doesn’t the question need to be “what is Blackness in American society”? I’ve had students from Africa tell me they weren’t really all that aware of their Blackness until they came to the US. Given, these are 16 year-olds, and most of us are not aware of much outside of ourselves until we reach adolescence. But that’s just the point: Blackness is, to a large extent, measured against all of this stuff outside of Blackness.

    The point you make in this essay is wonderful: there is such a wide variety of Black experience that to define Blackness is nearly impossible (and we can substitute “Black” with Latino or Asian, etc.). And that message needs to be understood by everyone. I find that many of my white students have trouble comprehending that for non-whites, thinking about race is not optional. They take it for granted that Whiteness is not a singular experience. And yet one of the common denominators for whites is that they’re members of the privileged group.

    Blackness, too, is not a singular experience. But it has some common denominators defined by society. Would you agree?

  7. tstorm wrote:

    *perhaps I shouldn’t say “defined by society,” but rather “determined by society.”

  8. David Wynn wrote:

    I don’t have anything constructive to add, but I thought I’d just say that I though it was a well thought out and put together article.

  9. georgia wrote:

    I never have and still don’t really know what blackness is.

    Our ideas about race in America are interesting to me when I compare it to the way race is constructed in Brazil (my stepmother is Brazillian), a country that has similar origins (europeans, african slaves, indians, and other immigrant groups.

    My dad is a black man, and my mother is an Italian immigrant. For a while I felt guilty that I did not consider myself to be black at all. I didn’t think that I was white, I just thought that being black was limiting.

    I had only one black friend when I was in middle and high school and like me she preferred alternative music and style instead of hip hop. In the predominantly black neighborhood she lived (she was bussed out to the suburbs were I lived) she was called an Oreo because of who she was.

    The way other black kids teased her really made her feel bad about herself and turned me off even more from describing my self as black. I always thought that if I told a black person that I was black I would get the same treatment and rejection, so I would say that my dad was black if asked.

    I hope that the more people think about this important question the more they see that there is no one answer and people don’t have to be confined to these types of groups.

  10. Allen wrote:

    That was a well-written column.

    I have a question for Latoya. Did you think you were a racist? Or, do you think you were a racist?

  11. Ron wrote:

    Its seems as if everyone is defining blackness as some superficial manifestation and not something intrinsic to their being.

    For example, Egypt a racially mixed society and country for the last 10,000 years. Overtime that culture has through music, literature and so forth defined blackness as the following: quick to laugh heartily, rythmic, spiritual, loyal, hardworking, stylish and many other descriptions. My point is that one cannot escape his blackness even if he or she tried because under the most life transforming circumstances their will be general qualities that will define blackness.

    To be politically incorrect genetics or nature will determine are being to a large extent more than our environment or upbringing.

    Being a California guy, I witnessed many isolated black people or people of African descent to defy their blackness but their African/Black essence remains.

    The discerning eye and people of wisdom know.

    It is an old story of being conflicted about identity that continues to haunt black people in non-black majority societies such as Egypt, Morocco, Tunsia, S. Arabia, Brazil, India, Pakistan, Yemen and so on.

    Welcome to the club not being the dominant group in your society.

    Many studies on this issue of black identity has been done by sociologists, geneticists, anthropologists, psychologists and other intellectuals tackling this tintallating subject of being torn.

    THE IRONIC THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT WHITENESS IS ALWAYS THE POSITIVE (IN WHITE DOMINATED SOCIETIES) WHILE BLACKNESS IS ALWAYS THE NEGATIVE.

  12. Sabiana wrote:

    I think what the problem is-which I’m not sure about-is that we have let others define who we are-instead of us defining ourselves.

    America has never looked at a person of color as being an individual person. Rather, maybe a group or a set check marks. I’ve noticed whites, however, don’t necessarily are categorized into social boxes.

    Race is somehow divided into every criteria of life almost.

    If you are black-your culture dictates you must listen to, eat, talk,–(etc)

    If you do not do the certain criteria above, you are seen as an “oreo” or white, just by something as simplistic as a music choice. White people may tell you “Oh, well, you don’t act like a …. or “I’m blacker than you are”. (laughs, as if the joke is funny)

    Genetically (for the most part) I am a black woman. I have been raised to be black, I am not ignorant to subtle racism. Racism as an act specifically.

    Race, scientifically, does not exist. Socially, Race does exists. To me, Race is real because we as human beings have made it real, have made it count, and built countries arount these notions.

    There are a million different answers to what blackness is, based on our OWN experieces, because we are individual human beings.

    To Georgia.

    I’m sad you feel that way. It is my own wish that you would embrace both your wonderful heritages, (though you seem to consider “black” to be a negative attribute-which I can understand) I’m sure you have aldready done so yourself, and it is not my place (or anyones) to negate someone’s identity.

    to Wendy.

    What if a White Child was adopted by a Black Family, lived in a Black neighborhood, have black brother/sisters. Would she have the right to consider herself to be Black? Does she have the Black experience too?

  13. LayLowLaw wrote:

    Latoya,

    While you may think there was and is an “Aryan beauty” standard, history has a different story to tell.

    The Aryans were supposed to be a horse-riding nomadic Indo-European speaking tribe that invaded the ancient urban Indus Valley around 1700 BC– in the process mashing up the existing written language and farming culture. The resulting civilization, 1200 years later, was supposed to lay claim to writing– in Sanskrit– the Vedas (Rig Veda, Sama Veda, Yajur Veda and Atharva Veda), also known as the basis for the Hindu religion.

    The problem with the above: there is *no* reference in the Vedas to an “Aryan” invasion and “Aryas” means “noble” not “superior” in Sanskrit. Later evidence also would show that not only were the Indus Valley people were dogged by droughts and flood, as opposed to outside invaders, but the entire historical and biological record, further reinforced within the very Vedas themselves, actually asserts the Indus Valley as the final destination for a homogenous race, not one under attack.

    So what happened? Thanks to scores of missionaries and colonialis, eventually one infamously bad landmark 19th century French treatise on Indian culture and literature was crafted by Abbé Dubois, featuring a near-complete misreading of the Vedas that also tried to incorporate Noah’s Flood. This was later translated into English with a preface by then-famed German archaeologist Max Muller. This English translation is where the “Aryan invasion” myth comes into literature, *not* the Vedas.

    (You can see where this is heading…)

    All it took was another misreading, those of Gustaf Kossinna by one Adolph Hitler, to pose the idea of the “Aryans” as a “master race” of “Indo-Europeans” (notice that they were conquerers and invaders, not nomads).

    Without going into all the details, think about why: Germany’s been defeated, humiliated, and gutted after WWI and more significantly *robbed of it’s national identity*. The country still acted and felt like a nation of mini city-states with no unity or cohesiveness. Searching for anything that could define them, it’s interesting that they looked for a myth that combined an ethnic other with white supremacy, and yet could be reconciled to fit their Nordic genetic features, expunging all the elements of the dark-skinned South Asian Dravidians behind this story. Add Hitler’s fascination with art, mythology, and cultural artifacts– but complete backwards ass reading of history and archaeology, and propaganda myth is born.

    FWIW: There has always been an interesting unsolved thread: commonalities in written Sanskrit and Latin-based languages and the advanced nature of the Mohenjo Daro site excavated in the early 20th century were treated as evidence of an “Aryan” civilization on a superficial level without more rigorous investigation, despite the fact that languages can and do have common traits by coincidence and that the civilization wasn’t mentioned in the Vedas.

    At least now, finally, South Asian scientists and academics are slowly shedding light and correcting the picture, starting with the evidence available within and around the Vedas and one day we might know what, if any, meaning “Aryan” truly holds.

    In the meantime, stop using “Aryan”, and save this pejorative as a discarded relic of Hitler’s twisted mentality.

  14. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    Again, thanks for all the great comments, especially ones about your personal experiences. I love to know where YOU are coming from…

    Some thoughts -

    Bryan -

    I, like you, wish that was the way to define blackness. But in examining my definitions, I realized I would not feel comfortable “disqualifying” someone from being black even if they told me they could care less about the struggle. Again, it is a hard thing to define…

    TStorm -

    I intentionally left out black in American society. Because blackness isn’t uniquely American. There may be an American twist on it, having darker skin is an issue globally. Blacks in Cuba have their story, as do blacks in England, etc etc. Again, how do we define blackness? While narrowing it down to an “African-American” experience may help with a definition, I feel like we’d be doing a disservice to not examine the concept of “black” as applied elsewhere.

    Georgia -

    I totally understand how you feel. I think that is one of the reasons that the “blacker than thou attitude” makes me so upset…it turns people off from their own race. Instead of thinking that we don’t relate to black culture, I wish more of us would be defiant claim our blackness anyway - what we are doing is creating black culture. And I, for one, think it is high time we started to acknowledge that.

    Allen -

    Yes, I am/was a racist. I never had too many issues with other people of color, but I had a huge chip on my shoulder when it came to white people. That hatred has given me a very keen understanding of racism - I had white friends, some of them even close to me, but in my mind they were always “white” first - and I was just waiting for them to fuck up and say something ignorant so I could lump them in with all the rest. Of course, I kept most of these racist sentiments to myself, as most people do.

    I started to think about things differently as I got older, and have been able to let go some of the worst of the racist thoughts, but it is still a bit of a fight, especially when something happens to “justify” my racist thoughts.

    I have actually been struggling with a post about MY racism, called “4th Generation Racist” - I’ve wanted to write it for some time, but it isn’t quite expressing what I want it to.

    At any rate, I’m still working on the piece. I’m hoping to cover my racist sentiments, how they started, how they continued, and how I started to fight them. I can answer more questions, if you wish…

    LayLowLaw -

    Thanks for the history lesson. It is always good to know how things came into existence. However, the connotation for Aryan, as erroneous as it may be, has been associated with pale skin, blond hair, and blue eyes. And, when I was in early training/brainwashing, the word “Aryan” was exclusively used within that context. So, that’s where that came from.

    I will need to think on not using the term any longer…while your points are valid, many white supremacist groups still use the term Aryan to self-identify.

  15. tstorm wrote:

    Thanks Latoya.

    So help me understand this. You say “blackness isn’t uniquely American,” and “having darker skin is an issue globally.” That makes sense to me. Because the world has become such a global community, we can’t really talk about isolated pockets of societies; few such isolated communities exist nowadays. When I lived in Ecuador, for instance, the white people, who were the minority there, still had more power than any other group. In most parts of the world, there is a global context to race and to skin tone. There is also a more local or national context. Like you say, “blacks in Cuba have their story, as do blacks in England”; Black in the U.S. is not necessarily Black in Brazil.

    I can see how it’s worth exploring both the more local definitions of Black and the global definition. You’re saying that even on a global level, there is still a concept of Blackness, right? My question is this: Is it always relative to culture? (Even if we’re talking about global culture.)

    And as I write this, I’m wondering, Is it always relative to the dominant culture?

    I throw this out to anyone willing to discuss it: What are some of the issues common to Black people all over the world? There’s the power issue – which is usually about not having power. There’s the related issue that other groups (in power) are often the ones defining Blackness. There’s the issue of group identity vs. individual identity (as Sabiana pointed out, “America has never looked at a person of color as being an individual person,” and that’s true of many other countries; and the fact that blacks are often thrown into a category – which the “one black” cartoon lampoons so successfully). What else?

  16. michelle wrote:

    I think that anyone can choose to be Black.

    Now, please allow me to clarify.

    I have a friend whose father is Haitian. The father’s father is Cuban and the father’s mother was Creole (anyone who knows about Creole societies in America and Haiti will know that it was very historically important for some to only have children with the lightest people with the straightest hair). My friend’s mother is French. He asked his father what race he was when he was in high school (till then he was basically white) and his father told him he was Black. He got to college, checked off Black, lived in a dorm with mostly Black people, and became a Black person. As bad as our internal war can be, most people just accepted him as Black. He chose his Blackness. According to his genetic code, his African heritage is probably too far back to find, he looks White, lived as a White person most of his life, but now that he has mostly Black friends, a Black wife and thinks of himself as Black, he is Black.

    I think of Blackness much like an spiritual energy. Why are some bi-racial people crystal clear about the fact that they are Black, and why are some crystal clear about the fact that they are not? Why are some Black people okay with being Black and some don’t want to be associated with Blackness at all. Yes, we can point to all sorts of environmental factors, none of which adequately explain the phenomenon of Blackness. Sometimes Blackness chooses you and sometimes you choose Blackness.

  17. Wendi Muse wrote:

    sabiana: you directed the following question to me:

    “to Wendy.

    What if a White Child was adopted by a Black Family, lived in a Black neighborhood, have black brother/sisters. Would she have the right to consider herself to be Black? Does she have the Black experience too?”

    I wasn’t really sure if something I said led you to ask this or if it happens to be a non-sequitur, but either way, here’s my answer:

    i believe that people have the right to define themselves however they wish. it’s not my or society’s real decision to make. and once again, as blackness and the black experience is something that is really lacking in definition, i am not sure how i could question with a straight face who gets to claim that.

    and i am definitely “feeling” what people have said about global concepts of blackness. for a while in the UK (and some people still use the term politically) “black” referred to people of african, caribbean, and south asian descent. so it’s important that when we talk about the black experience or blackness or even the word black, which is practically nonexistent in some societies, we keep that in mind…meaning that if you want an answer to that question, we’d have to start by defining black and white. . .

  18. Tariq Nelson wrote:

    Good post. I think that more and more people are realizing that “blackness” (and race in general) is very fluid.

    Many conflate (for lack of a better term) “African-American-ness” with “blackness” and try to extrapolate it upon other groups such as Somalis, Nigerians and Ethiopians as if all groups of “blacks” are homogeneous.

    Even, as you pointed out, African-Americans are very different amongst ourselves in so many different ways…

  19. Ron wrote:

    LayLowLow-

    I been hearing this revisionist HINDU history attempting to restore Brahamin pride as the original inhabitants and originators of the Indus Valley Civilization.

    If you are going bring up pro-hindu - “Aryan” myth argument please be intellectually honest and present all sides and opinions regarding said myth.

    TAMIL and DRAVIDIAN people have a totally different view than the government sponsored Hindu Nationalist agenda who are trying to debunk the “Aryan Myth” to suit Hindu Nationalism.

    Please also keep in mind that Indians have an inferiority complex with regard to their country being ruled by Muslims for almost a thousand years before being ruled by the British. So the government has been working hard with its new pseudo-science to lay claim to Dravidian culture as belonging to all Indians to create a national identity.

    The whole idea that Hinduism in itself is one unified religion comparable to Islam, Judaism and Christianity is misleading at best. What you have is very sophisticated polytheistic religions interrelated under the banner of “Hinduism.”

    India being the most diverse place on earth linguistically and racially has tried to unify the country with debunking the “Aryan” myth. While many Jewish scholars have same interest for different reasons the gist of what Hitler said is correct:

    Some Europeans, Persians, Indians, Pakstanis and Central Asians are related by blood tradition, language, and disposition. That is the point of Aryanism everything else is a ‘red’ herring

    Hinduism is a color conscious and race basis religion used political purposes. Westerns have to understand that in the East - you cannot separate religion from politics. That is why their is no true democracy in India - it is a sham. I am not going to get into details because would need to write a book, but I hope you understand where I am going.

    To say that the caste system created in India did not have anything to do with racial difference is counter to my reading of the Rig Veda -

    The Indian government is trying to justify their status quo of land ownership by saying that the Indus Valley consisted of the same people who now rule India - upper castes. People in India deny that the caste system even has any influence because India is som modern. We know that is untrue because it the majority of the population still lives in rural areas. This is classic Aryan negationism.

    The original people of Indus Valley are related to people in Africa, Indonesia, Phillipines, and other islands in S.E. Asia. Most Indians are trying to distance their culture from these people by saying they have a unique beginning - homogenous civilization.

    One must understand the power of Black America and how far are influence is around the world for people of color.

    The Indians / Dravidians have been greatly influenced by our civil rights movement and black power movement. Brazilians, Nubians, Moroccans, Venezuelans, Black French have been taking notice of our racial identity politics and its success. So as these people in the black diaspora see what we do and study our tactics those forces in their country who oppose them strategy to defeat these movements at the baby stage level.

    The Tamil Tigers have taken their struggle to a whole unheard of level and whether you are aware or not they seek inspiration from Africa and people of African descent.

    So understand that we are powerful and successful but we naturally crave more - that is why we are having this discussion to more perfect our black experience.

  20. cw wrote:

    Looking upon blackness as a negative.

  21. WildMagnolia wrote:

    Inside my head I’m not Black, I’m not even a woman. Outside my head, experiences tell me that I’m considered to be a black woman. The struggle between those two is very frustrating. Instinctively, I just want to ignore the outside world totally because it is ALL a stereotype. For the most part I do but there’s always that little voice reminding me of how I’m perceived and instructing me on how to navigate myself through this world.

    That little voice is my blackness. It is my instructor in the WORLD OF BLACKS. That little voice is what Black is all about to me. That little voice reminds me of all the things that have been constructed for me. It’s my choice whether or not I believe.

    Sometimes I do.

    Sometimes I do not.

  22. LayLowLaw wrote:

    My point (apart from the fact the “Aryans” have never been proven to have existed) was that it is a loaded political term whose end is sorely needed as much as a few other choice labels.

    “White supremacist” does not equal “all whites” from my experience. If the former chooses a identity based upon Hitler’s flawed notions of physical features, their business. But their use of “Aryan” is sociopolitical, not racial. Distnction is important because there was/is NO Aryan race.

    So not an excuse to use the term when most of the “whites” you would specifically have in mind wouldn’t (and under that standard couldn’t) apply it to themselves (due to lineage or other factors).

    Just because a loud or more visible minority segment of one race wants to use a label to identify itself, that should not excuse the use of that term in order to define the entire race’s features.

    No justification for casual use of that or any term by people striving to do better as society comes to terms with labels that bother anyone?

  23. Changeseeker wrote:

    This post gave me goose bumps. I’m going to put a permanent link to it on my blog roll. Thanks.

  24. Kai wrote:

    Excellent reflection, Latoya. Interesting stories and questions, and great comments too. I love hearing the different angles.

    I can’t offer anything on Blackness but I thought I’d generally mention that, as I see it, any entity or category that is scrutinized closely has blurry edges; even the most solid-looking physical object has blurred uncertain boundaries if you look closely enough (okay, getting into silly nerdy metaphorical territory here). That’s why physicists describe phenomena not in terms of certainties but only in terms of probabilities. So that’s how I think and talk about race too. I think and talk about race in terms of probabilities, phenomena with discernible patterns yet bearing enormous micro-variation which no equation can capture. Thus I don’t think a singular definition for any racial or ethnic group is possible, though I do think that some definitions will probably be embraced more broadly and some less so; and I think that both broad and granular views are equally worthwhile and important.

    LayLowLaw, I’m more or less with you on the usage of “Aryan”. Hitler himself believed Central Asia to be the source of Aryan blood; he stole the swastika from Asia (Buddhism) and sent exploration parties to the Himalayas in search of ancestral evidence, resulting in the famous book and movie “Seven Years in Tibet”. Most scholars certainly believe that the Latin language is derived from Sanskrit.

    And Ron, I’m not saying any of this to bolster Hindu nationalism or Aryanism. I agree that race plays a heavy role in the caste system, going back to the Vedas and the Mahabharata; and modern politicians of the BJP etc cynically manipulate this. But your blanket hostility to all Hinduism doesn’t exactly help matters (e.g. mocking it for not being a real religion according to a European anthropological standard). I mean, recall that one of the most beloved and ancient Hindu deities is Krishna, whose very name means The Dark One; isn’t that interesting? And yes, the Tamils and Dravidians have been inspired by the Civil Rights movement; but then, MLK was inspired by a Hindu named Gandhi, who was inspired by a white American named Thoreau, who was inspired by the Hindu Upanishads. You can go on and on like this, often to no avail. What matters most to me is drawing relevant hope and wisdom from this history of cultural diffusion, not turning it into a contest of ethnic oneupsmanship.

    End of tangent. ;-)

    Peace.

  25. LayLowLaw wrote:

    Ron: If you will again to please be so kind as to look carefully at what I wrote, you will note that I took care to state that the myth does has basis in fact, unfortunately used for other purposes by other outside groups, but never definitely established as authentic, with no government claim as credible. That is precisely the point of having more scholars of origin from the area from more disciplines leading the research and influencing the terms of the debate,and having their work receive greater exposure– the spirit of what I said at the end.

  26. Anonymous wrote:

    “and i am definitely ‘feeling’ what people have said about global concepts of blackness. for a while in the UK (and some people still use the term politically) ‘black’ referred to people of african, caribbean, and south asian descent.”

    I heard that some Australians today use “black” to refer to people of native descent.

  27. Miss Profe wrote:

    My favorite line of the post is “In the meantime, I’ll just continue being unapologetically myself.”

    I’m with changeseeker: I, too, plan to link to this post in my blogroll.

  28. georgia wrote:

    This was a really great post and I wish that this kind of honest conversation could take place in a larger forum. I find that when ever race is discussed in the media it is a white vs black issue and the two are made to seem like opposites (which offends me deeply).

    To Sabiana,

    When I was in high school I did think of blackness as a negative, but only because I thought that I didn’t represent it and that not being “black” meant that I was trying to be white.

    I never thought black people were bad I just thought that they(kids my own age) wouldn’t accept me.

    My dad’s side of the family has never made me feel like I didn’t fit in or that I was not welcome even though my life in the suburbs was very different from their lives on the South side of Chicago. They are my family, and they are black, and I share experiences with them so I must also be black also… this is sort of how I would explain my blackness if I had to I guess.

    I think it was just the typical ways that teenagers tend to form groups with strict codes of conduct and their bullying that upset me. And I would want all black kids and mixed kids to know what I didn’t know then, that they don’t have to choose sides because there are no sides to choose.

    Now that I’m in my 20s I don’t have any of those existential problems. I’m open about who I am and I have never had a negative experience because of my background. And the few black people I actually meet (I live in MA) don’t react any differently than anyone else.

  29. ccch wrote:

    Wow, just absolutely wow!. I love this blog and ALL the wonderfully written, challenging articles and of course when they ring even closer to home about the “make up of my heritage” black/east indian (not disrespecting others, as, as a human ALL issues that affect us are important to me).
    Just, thank you for this and all I can say is: as a grown up, you should define yourself, like Tiger Woods, who’s actually not denying, but accepting of ALL that he’s made up of and why the heck shouldn’t he, as he shouldn’t disrepect the mother who beared the scars to carry him. That’s how we’re raising our son. He gets the benefits of all our genetic make up and, imagine, the good, bad and ugly of our shared histories.
    Wow, I can’t wait till he’s grown and “unleash” him on our world. Talk about positive change!.

  30. Wendi Muse wrote:

    yeah anonymous, you are right about people in australia. aboriginal peoples there also sometimes refer to themselves as black…but this terminology isn’t too far off, especially considering a) their features, and b) their links to Africa as a place of origin (lots of articles have come out lately regarding the direct link to africa for australian aborigines). funny enough, i heard an aboriginal rap song recently in which the artist refers to himself as a black man… so it’s interesting how blackness as a concept of self-identification has so many shifts/openings over time.

  31. Meg wrote:

    Just to say a little about Indigenous Australians, I don’t know where it started - probably a purely visual thing back with the 1st Fleet but it’s a little more involved than that (for better or worse). “race relations” in Oz are quite often termed as black (Indigenous) vs. white (european) I suspect more because American stuff seeps into everything and influences how we characterise things rather than it being the same as the american experience. African americans are more dominant in that exported culture than Native Americans and so it’s easier to draw comparisons (good, bad and ugly). E.g. US civil rights movement in particular (there were freedom rides in Oz) have influenced how we see race or try to explain/analyse/commentate rather than there being a lot made of common ancestory with African americans. I think some important experiences are similar which may help the continued ID of indigenous aussies as = black (e.g. urban disadvantage, ,criminalisation of communities,etc), but there’s a lot where the issues are more clearly in line with those of other indigenous peoples (America, Canada, NZ).

    what does this say about the experience of “blackness”? I don’t really know but thought i’d add in the extra info for interested readers.

  32. Angela wrote:

    I was never “aware” of my blackness until, uhm, just recently. It’s so odd but I can’t really explain it despite my background. Sure I”ve gotten the “white girl” comments a few times, but for the most part, I’ve just seen myself as myself.

  33. Mireille wrote:

    Latoya–as usual, thank you for yet another brilliant article.

    I wonder how you feel about magazines targeted to black woman like Essence which has a relatively narrow definition of what it is to be black and female and the black woman as a “queen” narrative.

  34. Latoya Peterson wrote:

    T-storm:

    Excellent questions - unfortunately, my thoughts aren’t concrete enough yet to give you any answers. I’ll keep them in mind though, and revisit them in a later post.

    LawLowLaw:

    Good way to clarify. Point taken.

    Mirelle:

    My feelings about Essence is complicated. As an avid magazine reader (I browse about 20 a month on various topics) I want to see more people of color - and Essence, Ebony etc provides that.

    However, Essence doesn’t speak for me. And unfortunately, out of all the black monthly mags, Essence comes the closest to what I want in a magazine.

    There is a very set agenda in Essence and Ebony that does play to one perspective on blackness. To some extent, I understand why they do it - your readers are looking for a specific voice in your magazine, and you cater to that. It’s just a bit sad that other perspectives are excluded.

    I like Vibe Vixen, but it is a quarterly, and more lifestyle/beauty focused.

    I liked Honey, back in the day. Not too keen on their site now.

    I adore clutch (http://www.clutchmagonline.com/) which is an online mag. But (full disclosure): I am in talks to start writing for them, so I am hardly unbiased.

    I guess I am not going to fault Essence, as it is difficult to be THE magazine for black women - they have to be Cosmo, Marie Claire, Vouge, W, Elle, Lucky, bee, and Pink all rolled into one. More diversity among black publications is sorely needed…

  35. Gunfighter wrote:

    “More diversity among black publications is sorely needed…”

    You ain’t never lied about that!

  36. michelle wrote:

    LaToya,

    You are very right about Essence having to be all things to all Black women. It is an awesome burden to bear. I also agree with you about Honey. It was a great resource and I was saddened by its departure from the scene. However, as a Black woman, I credit some of my development to Essence. Had Essence not existed, I would have been hard pressed to find any positive images or adivce in the pages of more mainstream publications. Mirelle, I think the “queen” narative, as you put it, is in direct response to the rest of the American media’s portrayal of Black women as dirty, whorish, ugly, slovenly creatures. It just gives us one positive thing to hold onto. I think that the “queen” narative is still incredibly needed and relevant.

    I would like to say that it is interesting that a discussion on Blackness seems to have taken a slight turn towards a very multiracial/multiethnic track. Which is great, I am just noting it.

    I do not call myself an African-American, I am very clear about calling myself Black. Black to me speaks to a mixed ancestry of European, Native American, and West African. I really feel that inherent in calling yourself Black you claim all the different groups that go into the creolization of African peoples into Black peoples. Black speaks to the middle passage, it speaks to slavery, it speaks to immigrating from Africa and the Caribbean, it speaks to all the different things that makes “us” “us”. I know that many people don’t see it that way, but that is how I view the term Black.

    I do not think that Tiger Woods should praised for his handling of his mixed race ancestry. I get a little disappointed (not as much anymore) by people who are raised by Black people (half), treated like a Black person, seen by the larger world as a Black person insisting on being seen and named as ANYTHING other than Black. And, I think there are a lot of Black people who feel a kinship with Tiger Woods, because of the Blackness that seems obvious to us.

    If Halle Berry, a mixed race woman, called herself mixed, bi-racial, multi-ethnic, etc. then there would have been no triumph for Black people the night she won her Oscar.

    Lastly, could it be that there are things about being Black that are commonalities, but perhaps not everyone can claim all those commonalities at all times? So not only is Blackness a living, breathing concept, but a person’s relationship to their own Blackness is allowed to change over time.

    And Latoya, please keep is posted (if you can) about your work for clutch.com. Your words are thought-provoking and moving and I look forward to reading more of your work.

  37. Mysterious Style wrote:

    That was great !!!!!!! I’m still trying to figure out what it means to be black, but after reading this blog I feel that it is ultimatley up to me to define who I am.

  38. Lavalady wrote:

    I ask myself this all the time, more so since my youngest son (who is 3/4 white and looks white) has been talking about race in a way which reminds me that he sees both of us as white (even though I am not white looking to most people, including myself).

    He wanted some soccer player figures for his birthday, and when we got them, I noticed right away that they were all white and said “I’m gonna paint some of these soccer players brown!” - he asked me why, and I said it was because not everyone in the world was white, and the soccer players should reflect that. He agreed, and now all I have to do is figure out how I’m gonna get those guys painted. I hope he remembers stuff like that fondly, that it helps to keep his eyes open.

  39. michelle wrote:

    LaToya,

    Your post has really got me thinking. I mean really, really thinking.

    One thing I thought about was how certain figures within the media, i.e. Mariah Carey, Tiger Woods, Derek Jeter, Vin Diesel, to name a few, have actually changed the discourse of who and what is “black”. One of the first Black people who was very vocal about needing to be seen as American, not Black (or Negro), was Jean Toomer. It didn’t really come to fruition for him and to date, he is really only read in the context of Black literature. I find it incredibly ironic. It is remarkable that our generation has witnessed such a phenomenal shift in thinking. They say that change is slow, but we have experienced change in this arena in our lifetime.

    The question of what it means to be black seems to come from a very privledged vantage point. It also seems like a very new question. I don’t think that our parents, and surely not our parent’s parents asked this question. And if they did, they had a world that made the answer VERY clear.

    Also, I think that being Black has to do with service. I could easily choose to be something else. I choose to be Black because I am inclined to serve Black people. I am inclined to think about issues relating to Black people in an effort to find a solution to the ills that beset our community. I think that people who are in a position to think about Blackness as it relates to them, are people who are in a position to be of significant help to the Black community. It is almost reminiscent of the talented tenth arguement. Again, most of the people who are entertaining this question are people who are educated to a certain degree and who have the time and energy to dedicate to such esoteric thoughts. But I feel compelled to be of service to a community that I am a part of, however peripherally I am a part of the community. There are many people who can opt out of being Black, but choose not to because to do so would mean that they might not be able to serve in the same capacity.

  40. Lynden wrote:

    There is a definition for blackness. Blackness is color (physical attributes) + identity (persona). ie. the cosbys albeit a bit uncommon in regards to their professions, were clearly identifiable as black. No one would think that they were white.

    If you made the mom and dad into the invisible man or woman, i would still identify them as black (ie. voice, mannerisms, choices etc).

    Now look a tiger, he has the physical attributes but not the identity.

    I firmly believe that “blackness” can be delineated.

  41. Lynden wrote:

    addendum:
    now look at white urban youth: they have the identity but they dont have the color so they can not truly identify with blackness. they try to experience everything but the burden.

  42. Jerald J. Creer wrote:

    Wow! That was very inspirational! I am grateful to have read that story of “A Quick Reflection on being Black”. I am often viewed as an Oreo, being Black, Deaf, and Gay…I’ve pondered myself on my own blackness. The conclusion I’ve came to decided was to be myself and be proud of who I am. I’ve been exposed to many things which makes me who I am and still I showed no shame of my skin color. I just want to thank you for reminding me to stand strong.

  43. ellenoir1 wrote:

    Defining blackness is like trying to define God. Every experience will define it differently. As my blog states, I live and work in Hollywood where appearance and being superficially politically correct is always in fashion. Being “black” as Hollywood defines it leaves my childhood and adulthood on the edit room floor, or unimagined at all most of the time.

    The various spectrums of being black is always reduced to being ghetto, violent, loud, gangster, or something I can’t identify with socially. But sadly there are too many black folk that actually think blackness is defined by such ignorances. Will the credits ever roll on this kind of foolishness and fade to REAL blackness, then fade up from REAL Blackness and start with a whole new movie that speaks to all our intelligence?

    Ellenoir
    http://www.hollywoodliveandwork.com

Post a Comment

Your email is never published nor shared.