links for 2007-05-05

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  1. Ghno wrote:

    What was the point of Unapologetic Mexican’s piece? There are a number of more insightful accounts from citizen journalists popping up on the blogosphere versus this rant. Does heat count more than light now, simply because a person of color generates it?

    Assuming there was no intentional attempt to distort or mislead, had the post added some facts– even from IndyMedia if you don’t trust MSM– they would have pointed out that *several* members of MSM press, reporters and camera operators, (inclunding FOX!) were hit by those 240 rubber bullets.

    This helped push it to nonstop cable loops and natl. newspaper coverage, calls by major press organizations and unions for lawsuits and investigations, etc. And that’s before the independent media’s spin on this.

    So it’s not accurate to imply that no one was paying attention. This was a direct assault on the First Amendment. Lesson: shoot the press, they’ll hit back. Except for Iraq of course.

    Worst part: LAPD did this before in 2000 with the Dem Natl. Convention, banging up reporters and protestors. They don’t know restraint and itch to set it off.

    There’s too much rant in that post to sift through. Read other firsthand accounts that at least point to some facts.

  2. damie_dee wrote:

    RE: What’s the Real Reason for the Sudden Attack on Hip Hop?

    The current societal reprimand of Hip Hop’s exacerbating immorality is long over due. I welcome it.

    Self introspective castigation is important and mandatory for moral improvement.

  3. Reyes-Chow wrote:

    I have been subscribed to this for a while and have never left a comment. No comment here either other than to thank you for the links. Good stuff! Blog on!

  4. B.G. wrote:

    Damie_dee, plenty of black people have long excoriated the misogyny of mainstream hip hop. There’s no need to paint the Imus scandal as a good thing because of your own ignorance of the commentaries of black critics.

  5. B.G. wrote:

    And note that I wrote, “mainstream”. Figure out who exactly is profiting the most from selling the mainstream stuff.

  6. Koko wrote:

    Who is profiting the most from the mainstream?

    I’m kinda slow(kinda)…..

    And what do you guys think of the golliwogs?

  7. damie_dee wrote:

    @B.G.

    You made a pre-assumption of my position, that shows your ignorance of my viewpoints. I never said there weren’t Black critics previously. The minority who did criticized, weren’t eroding corporate support of the subject matter, and the recent controversy is finally putting relevant pressure on the corporate level more than ever.

    For example, Russel Simmons stricter stance in censoring extreme material, and the recent outcry against Akon’s simulated rape behavior on stage has forced the Verizon Corporation to stop sponsorship of his tour.

    Though corporate support shoulders a segment of blame, the main onus is on Hip Hop performers, culture, and fans themselves. I find your not being critical enough on the majority of Blacks who have tolerated and enabled the immorality that has hurt their community most.

  8. deb wrote:

    Before I heard about the Tommy Hilfiger urban legend, there was the one about Liz Clairborne appearing on Oprah saying that she didn’t design clothes for black women because “their hips are too big.” I believe Director Spike Lee had a hand in spreading the rumor too.

    Instead of questioning what the designer said, I simply said that I would never buy anything with Clairborne’s name on it. As it turns out, Clairborne never appeared on Oprah and denies having said those damning words. See: snopes.com

  9. wendi wrote:

    Thanks for posting the article about Grace Lee Boggs. That was a very interesting read, and I applaud her for her commitment to activism. She’s definitely going on my list of role models :-)

  10. hoo_boy wrote:

    Deb: I heard that Liz Claiborne rumor a long time ago too, along with some other urban ones.

    Genuine straight truth: how come you wanted to believe and boycott instead of playing skeptic? I know why I did: the products sucked and the companies didn’t need my money compared to then- upstarts.

    BUT If it turns out black companies were spreading the bad word on white companies (maybe using the weapons of mass confusion against elites?) I’m just worried about us getting played by marketing in general, you know? You don’t need to badmouth the competition devious-like with gossip and rumor to trumpet your excellence.

  11. deb wrote:

    hoo_boy check out I Heard It Through the Grapevine: Rumor in African-American Culture. It mentions the urban legend concerning the TROOP clothing line. The one that said that the brand was created by the Klan and that the acronym stood for The Robes of oppressed people. It also mentions the urban legend about Tropical Fantasy soda. It was believed that the soda caused sterilization in black men. Don’t know the effects it was supposed to have on other men of color, or white men, for that matter. ;)

    Anyway, I fell in with that crowd of non-critical thinking folks. I question things a lot more now. :D

  12. B.G. wrote:

    Yeah, I agree the artists themselves are complicit. Didn’t mean to sound harsh. I realize that on the nets, I often have a riding-into-battle attitude, because the anonymity tends to make conversations less polite.

  13. hoo_boy wrote:

    Thanks Deb! That book looks like the read, so I ordered it from Alibris (no Amazon for me!) just now.

    I stopped eating KFC and Church’s a long time ago. Never heard of Tropical Fantansy, never wanted to sport Troop or FUBU or HOBO, or even get my fortune read by Miss Cleo neither.

    Dang, this is something, it’s not just rumors but the *intentional* rumors and lies and gossip that get started and won’t (no– CAN’T) ever disappear.

    Looking forward to what Patricia Turner has to say about all this spin, def…

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