The Office: all Asians look alike

by guest contributor Ansel

On December 14, the NBC show “The Office” aired its Christmas episode titled “A Benihana Christmas,” written by Jennifer Celotta. As a big fan of the show, I was interested by the previews for the episode which seemed to include a joke about two Asian women looking alike. So would “The Office,” a show known for being ironic and clever and in-the-know, be putting their satirical spin on the old stereotype? To my disappointment, they didn’t. In fact, in my personal opinion, one can argue that the show just played with the stereotype for laughs. It’s a more insidious sort of racial joking– the writers, producers, actors etc know the stereotype is politically incorrect, but they use it for laughs, anyway. They’re supposed to be a “smart” show, but that’s not going to stop them from pandering a little bit, either. I’ll explain.

First, the show has occasionally included references to race and has proven a tendency and talent for skewing stereotypes. The pompous main character, the boss of the office, is Michael Scott, played by Steve Carell. Michael is often seen embarrassing himself by revealing his cringe-inducingly poor understanding of race relations towards minorities; however, the laughs are at Michael’s expense, not minorities. A few episodes ago, Michael’s boorish and dimwitted understanding of Indian culture during a Diwali celebration led to a lot of chuckles at his own ignorance, and not at the expense of Indian culture or heritage. Michael is arguably the embodiment of the Ugly American, and the funniest thing about it is, he doesn’t know it and would be horrified if he found out… because he thinks he’s quite tolerant and well-educated about racial issues.

Hence, the irony, a form of humor “The Office,” like many other smart shows, revels in.

However, what makes the treatment of Asians in “A Benihana Christmas” different?

I’ll provide a recap of what happens, you decide. I can only say that it left me feeling disappointed. I won’t make some statement that the episode was in fact racist or overtly offensive, but I will say something about it seemed a little off and left me puzzled.

Recap: Michael Scott has just been rejected by the woman he thinks he loves and is moping around the office. To cheer him up, office brownnose Andy (Ed Helms) invites him and the other guys to the Japanese restaurant Benihana’s for lunch, which Michael calls “Asian Hooters.” Jim (John Krasinski) and Dwight (Rainn Wilson) accompany them. At the restaurant, the guys get drunk on “Nog-a-sakis” (an eggnog/sake concoction) and Andy and Michael start eyeing two cute waitresses, one of them named Cindy. Andy suggests they invite the two women back to their office, where an office party is starting, offering Michael the prettier of the two women to invite.

Cut to the guys stumbling into the office with two giggling Asian waitresses… except that these two are DIFFERENT Asian waitresses than the two that were seen at the restaurant. The problem… no one makes a comment about it, continuing to refer to the two women as the same two women who were their waitresses in the restaurant.

Click links below to see pictures of the two different “sets” of Asian women:
Cindy and the other Benihana waitress
Different waitresses

Hopefully, this is a producers/writers’ gag on the audience. Will the show’s audience realize that these two Asian actresses are different from the first two Asian actresses? Or will the audience not notice, just as the four men don’t seem to notice, thus playing again on the “Asians all look alike” stereotype? Hahaha. Clever, right?

Things get worse as Michael begins to mix up which waitress is “his.” He’s seen drunkenly singing karaoke to the wrong waitress. When asked by his employees which woman is his, he stumbles until finally admitting, “Well, you know, all waitresses look alike” to the amused guffaws of his coworkers. Yes, I’m sure you meant “waitresses.”

The final kick in the teeth is when Michael finally identifies the “right” waitress and conspicuously uses a black marker to mark her arm. Of course, Michael has to physically tag an Asian woman to distinguish between her and another Asian woman. Soon after, the two women leave, citing the party as disappointing. Agreed.

The episode concludes with Jim and Michael sitting on a couch, talking about women troubles. Michael informs Jim that he marked the waitress’ arm because he “couldn’t tell them apart.” Cue… incredulous laughter from both. I’m told that shooting that scene, both Steve Carell and John Krasinski continuously broke character by cracking up so much during that line. And the episode ends.

I’ll make one remark: the fact that the stereotype of “All Asians look alike” was never actually stated aloud during the episode somehow makes the episode more troubling to me.

What if this had happened? Two new Latino coworkers join the office. Michael and Andy act oddly around them, not wanting them to come near their desk or their things. A joke is made about how “Oh you know, you never know if you can trust the ‘new people’ around your stuff.” They watch every move the Latinos make. But their white coworkers just laugh over their behavior. No condemnation. The underlying sentiment being the stereotype that the Latinos might be prone to stealing. Never stated aloud, but the intention quite clear anyway. Everyone understands the underlying intention. Everyone seems “in on the joke.” But is that right? Is that funny?

That’s why this episode left me hanging. The “Asians all look alike” stereotype, though never vocalized, was just met with the knowing laughter of other coworkers. The show’s audience is expected to understand the gag. Jim and Michael are red-faced with giddy laughter after Michael admits he tagged the Asian woman’s arm to distinguish her. Something doesn’t feel right to me.

The best thing you as the reader can do, if the recap has gauged your interest, is to view the episode yourself and consider how it makes you feel. Consider what the intent of the running gag might be, and also consider its execution. I have to say again, that I was mostly disappointed by the episode. Apparently it will be re-aired this Thursday night at 9:00 pm if you missed it.

If you saw the episode, what did you think?

Trackbacks & Pings

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Comments

  1. Dawn wrote:

    I thought the joke was funny once (the bit they showed in the commercials) but I really wanted one of the waitresses to call him on it and have him bumble around and make an ass of himself trying to cover. (Like in the episode where the new guy — who is black — turns out to have a prison record.) I think the sitcom works best when they baldly confront Michael’s racism (and so confront the audience’s racism).

  2. Just Wondering wrote:

    First, the show… has proven a tendency and talent for skewing stereotypes … Michael is arguably the embodiment of the Ugly American, and the funniest thing about it is, he doesn’t know it

    Isn’t the “ignorant-to-other-cultures white man” simply another stereotype? That hardly sounds like “skewing.”

    I don’t watch the show, so I can’t say for sure, but it sounds like from your description that the writers simply trade one set of stereotypes for another.

    Wouldn’t a skewed stereotype be a white boss who fully embraced diversity and understood the various nuances of his coworkers’ cultures?

  3. N Bae wrote:

    I felt a bit disappointed as well. With most of their themes that toy with race their seems to be a sarcasm and satire that seems to point at the very absurdity of the issues that Michael Scott so seemingly seems to “understand.” In this episode, although the trailer provoked me to feel uncomfortable (being an Asian American), I thought it would poke fun at it and expose the stereotyping by Michael Scott to be “not right.” Instead the way they left the seem left my throat a little parched, when Michael and Jim end up laughing (together) instead of Jim’s usual role and eye-shot of him starring at the camera saying something to the extent of “umm, can you believe he just said that?!”

  4. Carmen Van Kerckhove wrote:

    Yeah this show left me really puzzled. First of all, when they were in the restaurant and Andy was all like, “they’re so into us!” I was expecting that they would flip the situation by showing that the waitresses were totally just mocking them behind their backs.

    But instead, the (other) waitresses accompanied them back to the office, like the submissive Asian women Michal and Andy think they are.

    At that point, I was waiting for them to flip the situation by having the women maybe have some ulterior motive for going to the office — like to steal their petty cash or something (not that that would be a positive portrayal, but at least *something* other than the submissive lotus blossom crap).

    But again, that never happened. Instead, the episode really just did use the “all look alike” joke and left it at that. And it wasn’t even that funny. :|

  5. If I had a nickel... wrote:

    I agree with Carmen, but could it be that The Office was trying to be a bit more subversive and sidestep the expected “reversal”? I am an AA woman, and I want to believe that this joke didn’t play out the way the writers intended; it was as if the writers couldn’t decide how to play out the stereotype joke/counter-gag/counter-counter gag because they know it’s played out…For example, when the camera cuts to Cindy whispering something to another waitress after Michael invites them to the party, it seems clear she’s laughing at Michael, et al (and perhaps planning the practical joke of sending 2 other waitresses in their place), but yeah, even non-middle America would have appreciated being privy to more overt contempt on behalf of the waitresses or the other diners.

    And as the episode continued, the writers seemed confused or lazy with respect to developing this joke, although certain elements hint at some semi-conscious brainstorming–I was expecting something hilarious and redeeming of the previous 15 minutes of slight discomfort when the waitress took the bike with her when she left.

    In any case, I too am disappointed, especially when the backdrop of the ultimate gag that is Benihana seemed wasted!

    (As a sidenote, I call your attention to some lame MOW/Lifetime movie from the 80s starring some semi-once famous actress playing the wife of a Vietnam Vet, who sponsors his ex-mistress and half-Vietnamese daughter. Turns out that the woman he thinks is his ex-mistress is just some other random Vietnamese woman who conned her way into the US and the home of this guy and his wife, and he doesn’t notice until some incident that I cannot remember because I was already so offended at the premise. (And I was maybe 10-years-old at the time.) So does anyone remember this, and how does The Office stack up?

  6. Rob wrote:

    I think this is just another example of those “over the audience’s head” joke.

    Meaning that the producers meant to make the joke sarcastic to point out the main character’s idiocy but actually overestimate the viewing audience’s social acuity.

    In short, they give the audience more credit than they deserve in thinking that they [audience] would be smart enough to notice but in the end, they’re actually laughing at the Asians.

  7. If I had a nickel... wrote:

    Is this funny, stupid, irrelevant or what:

    http://www.alllooksame.com

  8. Gandalf Mantooth wrote:

    hmm, a candidate for my new “Eat a D*ck” award?

  9. just sayin' wrote:

    I am so glad you are smart enough to get it was a joke, and then assume that no one else was as smart as you.

    Thanks for explaining in such a condscending manner.

    Don’t hate, appreciate……………

  10. Dena wrote:

    “I am so glad you are smart enough to get it was a joke, and then assume that no one else was as smart as you.

    Thanks for explaining in such a condscending manner.”

    Well personally, as someone who obsessively watches The Office, I have to say that I got the joke but a lot of other fans didn’t.

    Seriously, everyone check out the blogs/messageboards/LJ communities for the Christmas/Benihana episode of the Office.

    A LOT of people were confused and not sure if the two waitresses were different from each other. Most of the questions being, “I think I’m wrong, but were those two Asians different from the other two Asians? LOL. I’m not sure.” The replies being, “Um… I think so! Was I the only one who noticed that they were maybe different?”

    Seriously.

    Carmen and Ansel have a point. It’s not condescension when its true that other people don’t get it like an Asian will get it.

  11. Rob wrote:

    Ummm, my opinion was based on my experiences with similar past situations. And yes, most people are not as smart as you make them out to be.

    Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

  12. Phil wrote:

    I thought it was a subtle joke played on the viewers, and I thought it was pretty effective. We all want to believe we don’t fall into the “all Asians look alike” trap, but most of us probably did (and most of us probably won’t admit it!). I didn’t catch it until my 2nd viewing, so, the jokes on me. I thought it was very clever. I agree with some of the commentary that Michael should have received more of a come uppance. Essentially, he lost a bike he was getting rid of anyway.

  13. Animelee/Andrew wrote:

    My 12-year-old brother and I watched the episode together, and even HE got the joke right away, so I have no problems with the episode, I loved how they handled it.

    And I think the reason why Jim laughed along with Michael is because he felt bad for Michael getting dumped, he was tired, and he just couldn’t believe what Michael did, and thus laughed his ass off. He didn’t want Michael to feel down, which is why he didn’t do his, “Wow…” and stare into the camera.

  14. Dena wrote:

    “And I think the reason why Jim laughed along with Michael is because he felt bad for Michael getting dumped”

    I thought the writer of the piece said that that scene was a break from character for the actors– essentially the actors cracking up when they weren’t supposed to.

    I’m not sure its “Jim” laughing along with “Michael” than Jon laughing along with Steve.

  15. Gandalf Mantooth wrote:

    The problem with the joke is what Carmen alludes to. It sends a mixed message. Yes, hahaha, all Asians look alike to non-Asians. However, the comically super dorks stride into the party with their Asian arm candy. The writers were apparently unaware of supplanting one cliche with another.

  16. obw wrote:

    I’m so glad a post was written about this - I agree that they needed to explicitly state the stereotype and “do something” with it instead of…well…doing it.

    I guess I can see the nudge towards the audience about the two Asian actresses in the first scene being different from the second. But I think this, sadly, would go over a lot of people’s heads and just look…well…problematic…without an appropriate line or explanation somehow weaved into the show, as past episodes have done. This was definitely not one of my favorites, I have to say.

    I don’t think this “explanation” was in any way condescending. I think we learn from experience that more often than not, people do NOT understand the issue of mixing up Asian people. I have no problem “undermining someone’s intelligence” in order to remind others to be aware of something that continues to happen all the time.

    kudos Ansel! this is a great post :)

  17. Jackers wrote:

    I am so glad I found this. It has been driving me crazy as well!! All they had to do to make it funny was have Jim at the end say that Michael didn’t even bring home the right women from the restaurant. It drove me nuts! The ep sucked for that reason alone. I am not even Asian and felt offended!

  18. Why TV Sucks wrote:

    All Asians look the same? All White people look the same too… can you tell the difference between a German vs. Russian vs. Aussie vs. some redneck from Oklahoma? I can’t… in fact when out on the town and out clubbin, I mark up all the White girls on the arm too so I can figure out who I’ve already talked to so I dont get confused by the end of the night.

  19. Dolo wrote:

    Apparently Asians all look alike, and Asian women are nothing but objects to be marked on or claimed…smh.

  20. Erika wrote:

    I agree with what Rob said — it was a joke that went over many of the audience’s heads.

    The Office is far from being a racist show; it often mocks the inadvertently racist things people do and think (Michael, the boss, is usually the prime target), and its actors are of diverse cultural and ethnic backgrounds. One of the cast regulars (who is also a main writer), is Mindy Kaling, an Indian-American who speaks perfect English in her role.

    I personally really enjoyed the episode — the people I was watching it with definitely “got” the joke and seemed to think it was quite hilarious as well!

  21. Ju wrote:

    Great post! I agree on many of your points, but in my opinion, as someone who cries foul at most racial stereotypes for cheap jokes, I didn’t feel the way you did for The Office.

    I was actually amused by it as I believe they’re just playing on people’s ignorance. Much like Bobby Lee’s exagerated Madtv skits about the average Asian.

  22. J wrote:

    I actually quite liked the episode. I think good comedy sometimes makes you feel uncomfortable, and while The Office is usually about the audience laughing at Michael Scott (he’s so horrible, I would never say that, etc.), here the show makes you confront the stereotype yourself. Although the actresses don’t look alike, the show sets it up so you have to think about it for a split second by having all four of the actresses in the same costumes and setting up the story so that you expect the two waitresses they bring back to be the two waitresses they showed earlier, even if the stereotype isn’t a part of your cognitive process. I mean, if it were a movie and you cut from one scene to the next, and a character looks like a different actor but is in the same costume and relates in the same way to the other characters as s/he did in the previous scene, of course you try to reconcile it in your mind because it should be the same person, regardless of whether you perceive the ethnicity as homogenous in appearance (e.g. Crispin Glover’s stand-in in the Back to the Future sequel, or that Jim Carrey look-alike in the Dumb and Dumber sequel). And then as you reconcile the discrepancy between your expectation and the visual, you evaluate your cognitive processes for both the expectation (did I understand the story correctly? did they mention finding different waitresses?) and the visual (are they definitely different actresses?). Granted, I agree that this might have gone over most people’s heads, but I thought it was interesting because I’m AA and I remember the teacher mixing up the AA girls in my class all the time.

    Or, per the blog of someone who works on the show, “The audience was supposed to think that Andy and Michael tried to pick up the cute girls but ended up with less atractive ones. ” But I like my explanation better.

  23. Peter wrote:

    I definately agree with Ju that it’s no different than what Bobby Lee does on MadTv

    I also hear alot of people saying that they really liked the show but this was over the top. Suuuuure, if it’s making fun of other races and other things it’s funny but now it’s not? Come on, let’s not be hypocrites here. It’s either a good show or it’s not.. you can’t judge it all of a sudden because you laughed at someone else before but can’t laugh at yourself now.

  24. splat wrote:

    Call me dumb, but I have never heard that joke before! I am caucasian, but I lived in the Philippines for a couple months, and have many asian friends. I don’t think they look alike at all, and I didn’t see the relevance in the jokes on the show. Of course I was paying more attention to the Pam/Jim/Karen love triangle, so I could have easily missed it. I will have to watch the rerun tonight and see if I get what you are saying. I appreciate your insight, and if I was asian, then I probably would think differently.

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  26. Dena wrote:

    “Or, per the blog of someone who works on the show, “The audience was supposed to think that Andy and Michael tried to pick up the cute girls but ended up with less atractive ones. ””

    Wow. Just, wow. That’s a nice, but laughable, excuse.

    “Suuuuure, if it’s making fun of other races and other things it’s funny but now it’s not? Come on, let’s not be hypocrites here. It’s either a good show or it’s not.. you can’t judge it all of a sudden because you laughed at someone else before but can’t laugh at yourself now.”

    Sorry Peter, but in the past episodes in which other minorities have been the focus of Michael’s ridiculous comments and “joking,” other characters’ reactions and responses always made clear the offensiveness of his behavior. We’re “laughing” not at “someone else” but at Michael.

    THIS episode? No one condemns or reacts even slightly galled by the blatantly offensive behavior. In fact, several characters, including good-guy Jim, crack up about it WITH Michael.

    That’s a no-no in my book. Everyone knows the horribly inappropriate gay jokes by Michael towards Oscar or his treatment of the African-American “convict” co-worker were repulsive to the other people in the office. We laugh at Michael because of that, not at all at gays or African-Americans. But the Asians-all-look-alike joke went without comment. Well, except for amused laughter from characters who supposedly aren’t as dumb as Michael.

    It’s only “hypocritical” to be offended by this episode if the inappropriateness of the Asian stereotypes had been given the same “treatment” by the show as other minority stereotypes have been given. Since it was not, it’s not hypocritical to bring it up as a concern.

  27. Dena wrote:

    AngryAsianMan addresses this ep. :P

    “12.21.06
    Anybody catch The Office last week? I was embroiled in the whole Rosie thing, so I neglected to mention it… Normally, I really enjoy The Office. Great show, but it has its missteps… case in point, “A Benihana Christmas,” where Michael and Co. go to Benihana’s, pick up a few Asian ladies, and bring them back to the office party. Red flags! Red flags all around. Unfortunately, the episode goes for the cheap laugh, playing on “all Asians look alike” stereotype. I’d recap, but Racialicious has a great rundown (with photos!) of the whole thing here: The Office: all Asians look alike. For a comedy that can be so smart at times, it was pretty disappointing.”

  28. Jason wrote:

    I thought the episode was one of the best that the Office has done, and I’m Asian-American.

    When Michael says that all…waitresses look alike, Roy and Kevin are with him. I interpreted their laughter to be incredulous that Michael couldn’t tell them apart, not that they were laughing with him.

    Michael clearly felt sheepish that he couldn’t recognize his “girlfriend,” and in typical Mr. Scotto fashion, he tried to solve his problem in an even more offensive way, by marking the girl’s arm. Obviously we as the audience are meant to laugh at the idiocy of this solution.

    “here the show makes you confront the stereotype yourself. Although the actresses don’t look alike, the show sets it up so you have to think about it for a split second by having all four of the actresses in the same costumes and setting up the story so that you expect the two waitresses they bring back to be the two waitresses they showed earlier, even if the stereotype isn’t a part of your cognitive process. ”

    I thought this was brilliant, whether it was meant as a meta social comment or explained by a fanwank. I did not notice that they had switched actresses at first. It forces you to think, “Am I as bad as Michael Scott?”

    Nobody has even commented on the most racist thing in the episode, which was Angela (the office bitch) yelling at one of the waitresses to put a treat back. “I don’t come into your house and steal your Hello Kitty backpack.” I was taken aback at this, but it was Angela (who is homophobic and generally hateful toward everybody). And Michael actually comes to his girl’s defense, telling Angela to “shhhhhhut it.”

  29. J wrote:

    I found this via AAM and I usually agree with him, but I didn’t find this offensive at all. In the case of the different actresses in the office and restaurant, I either read it as meta commentary (posted on it earlier) or if the prop guy’s explanation is true, then the joke wasn’t appealing to the stereotype (and, it wasn’t funny, which is neither here nor there). (Not that prop guy’s word is necessarily fact - could easily be post facto write-off of something harder to explain or potentially offensive.)

    Now, if we’re talking about Michael’s inability to tell the two waitresses apart and the others’ reaction to him, I guess the inappropriateness of his behavior could have been emphasized more, but I found it to be another instance of Michael being ridiculous (hopelessly ignorant but desperate to appear PC, in his twisted way), and I agree with the poster above that Jim laughing with Michael reflected their shared incredulity at Michael’s actions. And I don’t think that the fact that Michael couldn’t tell the two waitresses apart lends support to the stereotype that all Asians look to same. I didn’t view the show as saying that Michael can’t tell them apart because they’re Asian; rather, I thought the point of the storyline was that Michael can’t tell them apart for whatever reason (whether it was his prejudice and inability to see Asian women as anything other than an exotic object of caricature limiting his cognition, or he couldn’t tell them apart because he just met them, etc.), but now he’s panicking that people will think that it’s because they’re Asian, so he’s reacting in his usual totally cringeworthy way.

    Then again, there’s always the danger of overestimating the audience, but I thought this was a case of, sometimes events transpire to make you look like a prejudiced idiot (whether with good reason or not), and you end up with foot in mouth and going overboard to prove you’re not (exacerbating the situation and proving the opposite, in Michael’s case).

  30. Anonymous wrote:

    ^^^ wow. can someone say over-thought out “fanwank”?

    i found the episode not nearly as offensive as the leaps and bounds some of these comments have made to “meta” explain away why cheap but unexceptional azn jokes were in the episode.

    seriously. they were just playing on the asians look alike joke. the people who make this show are smart, but not that smart. don’t give them so much credit, lol.

  31. M. Sang-Lee wrote:

    It’s called satire.

    And as an AM, I didn’t take any offense to it because I realized it was satire. And as a fan of this show, I know that.

    Secondly, as an AM, I also have come to accept that Asians do look more alike than Whites. Because of objective features like dark hair and brown eyes…those are two features that are common in all Asians, Latinos, and blacks. Hair and eyes are two dominant facial traits, right?

    Lastly, the excessively long blog makes me think this is an issue of “one can dish it out, but not take it”.

    Lighten up, have a thicker skin, or acknowledge it as satire. Pick one and move on.

  32. Anonymous wrote:

    “Secondly, as an AM, I also have come to accept that Asians do look more alike than Whites. ”

    Yeah, I stopped reading after that one. Holy cow.

  33. ken wrote:

    if the show was an asian show with an all asian cast and the waitresses where white, would asians be able to tell them apart. I don’t really think it’s really a race issue. It’s more human nature. People recognize features they are more familiar to them…. honestly, sometimes I can’t tell one caucasian from another…

  34. lurker wrote:

    I agree with Anonymous that too many people are giving the Office way too much credit when it comes to tackling the race issue.

    Satire about racism isn’t very effective when the main characters are white, and the minorities are one dimensional, and their sole purpose is to be on the receiving end of lovable Michael’s ignorant remarks.

    Sure, the particular episode made some people confront the “Asians all look alike” stereotype, or is it the “any loser white guy can get an Asian girl” stereotype,” but too bad most of those people are either Asian or regulars on this site.

    “if the show was an asian show with an all asian cast and the waitresses where white, would asians be able to tell them apart. I don’t really think it’s really a race issue. It’s more human nature. People recognize features they are more familiar to them…. honestly, sometimes I can’t tell one caucasian from another…”

    lol. This is just too…nope, not gonna bother.

    This show jumped the shark by the end of the second season anyway. Michael Scott is so over the top now.

  35. DeAd MiKe wrote:

    All WAITRESSES look alike.

    You’re the one substituting “waitresses” for “Asians”, just because they happen to be Asian. You racist!

    :-P

    The joke was funny, obviously it was done on purpose that the waitresses they brought to the office were different girls, because the girls were not so into them after they saw Michael and Andy acting like idiots doing their “explosive” handshake. You could see the look of disgust on the waitresses’ faces. They didn’t take other waitresses back by mistake, because Andy obviously knows Cindy, so he wouldn’t get her confused with another waitress and take her by mistake.

    The only “Asians look alike”, which is actually “waitresses look alike” (haha) is from Michael, who has never been a politically correct character, especially to blacks (Stanley), and Gays/Latinos (Oscar). I don’t know why anyone is surprised by this. Get a life. Get over it.

  36. Anonymous wrote:

    DeAd MiKe: You are stupid. That is all.

    lurker: thanks. :) Much as the Office appeals to people who usually like to enjoy wit, satire and irony, sometimes writers/producers etc are just, you know, cheap. They “pander.”

    The fanwankers are kind of sad. I usually really like the show but I’m not so blinded and (pathetically) hopeful that I’ll try to credit a bunch of white Hollywood types for coming up with an elaborate and meta-comically complex perspective on racial relations. Yeah right. They were probably hurrying up shooting so they could leave early for Christmas vacation. Niiiceee.

  37. lurker wrote:

    “You’re the one substituting “waitresses” for “Asians”, just because they happen to be Asian. You racist!”

    I think you mean “substituting Asians for waitresses.”

    At least proof-read your moronic post.

    I like how you ended your little rant with “get a life” and “get over it.” Way to distinguish yourself from from other hip anti-PC posters! Sorry, I meant “hep.”

  38. john random wrote:

    “i found the episode not nearly as offensive as the leaps and bounds some of these comments have made to “meta” explain away why cheap but unexceptional azn jokes were in the episode.”

    that about sums it up. it was racist.

  39. J wrote:

    I’m happy (well, not happy) to point out racism and usually the last to make excuses. So, maybe I’m just procrastinating, and I do think network TV generally gets it wrong by appealing to the LCD. But, I did not mean that the writers sat around parsing out all these meta considerations; just that, if I were writing, I would have made those choices because I think they are funny, and if I think about why I think they’re funny (which is lame, because talking about why something’s funny makes it not), that bout of logorrhea is what I come up with. To me, it was similar to the Seinfeld “not that there’s anything wrong with it” in that both poke fun at the artifice of PC.

    Still, as much as I like the show, I will say it could be more diverse. Is that really Scranton?

  40. Jason wrote:

    Ok, I watched the episode again last night to look for the racism. The very last shot in the restaurant was a close up of the two attractive waitresses (Cindy and friend). It cuts DIRECTLY to the crew arriving back at the office with their two DIFFERENT Asian waitresses. That supports the prop guy’s explanation that the audience was supposed to get that they had to settle for less attractive girls. I could see how if you knew what the joke was supposed to be, that you wouldn’t consider the steps needed to connect the dots or the racial implications.

    I normally am pretty sensitive to racism against As-Ams (I read Angry Asian Man regularly), but the Office is anti-racist to me. It’s saying how stupid these stereotypes are.

  41. DeAd MiKe wrote:

    Oh no! I wrote “substituting waitresses” instead of “Asians” at 4:20 in the morning, wow, what a horrible mistake. Talking about proofreading on an online message board is the most retarded thing you can do. Did I enter a Microsoft Word contest over here? I really don’t care how I worded it at 4 in the morning because the point is still valid. The show never says that Asians look alike, but the stereotypes in the original poster’s mind make him think that. It’s not like the show is inventing that stereotype, they’re just keeping Michael Scott the same politically incorrect character he’s always been. Continue trying to get a life now, instead of arguing about how ‘The Office’ is now racist because they finally made an Asian joke, where it’s been ok to joke about other races this whole time. It shows how ethnocentric you Asians still are.

    :-P

  42. Anonymous wrote:

    DeAd MiKe: You are still stupid. That is still all.

  43. Phil wrote:

    Did the pretty Asian waitresses set up the prank on the “Office” workers? On rewatching the episode, I noticed the camera twice cuts to the two pretty Asian waitresses talking to eachother, obviously looking over their shoulders at the Office workers–we don’t know what they are saying. Perhaps they were sharing mutual dislike for the obnoxious behavior, perhaps they were cooking something up, and maybe it was the two pretty Asian waitresses who got their more ordinary friends to substitute in — for the purpose of making a fools of Michael and his friend.

  44. Phil wrote:

    Jason,
    I think you made a very insightful point in post #28 when you remarked that it is Angela who made the only obvious racial slur, and the it was Michael who came to the girls defense. I think that this is the genius of the good writing and acting in this show. Show after show, Michael says and does things that are utterly foolish, obnxious and insulting, yet in the end, he’s revealed to be an essentially good person. We don’t hate him. Oddly, we don’t even hate Angela or Dwight, for the same reason. They are portrayed as people who are essentially good, but who sometimes do bad things. That’s what I think takes this show out of the ordinary. The characters are a little more 3 dimensional than the standard issue sit coms we get.

  45. Anonymous wrote:

    Wow. I’m surprised people are still making a big deal out of this. This stuff isn’t half as racist as the stuff that say, Bobby Lee or Dave Chappelle does. And even so, they’re still often funny. It was a funny joke making fun of Michael Scott’s idiotic and predjudiced behavior, as it happens in EVERY episode of this show. No need to “meta” this or that, it’s not that complicated or insightful.

    To #40 (Jason): The way it aired on TV was that there was a commercial break between those two moments, so it was a few minutes on the air. Even I did a double take, thinking to myself, “waitaminute… those aren’t the same actresses…” but I just assumed it was my overactive imagination until I read this post later. I was amused by that, though!

    To #44 (Phil): Good point.

  46. Eric wrote:

    I can’t believe people are so upset about this! This is the same show that just a couple of weeks ago played on the stereotype of black people stealing in “the convict”. I bet you weren’t all up in arms then, were you? this is rediculous, the show is supposed to make fun of all stereotypes/genders/races. it’s a joke and it’s very sad that you’re arguing over this episode not being “politically correct.”

  47. Phil wrote:

    Anonomous,
    Yes it is a little remarkable that people are still discussing the race storyline in Benihana Christmas. But race is the great American issue, you know, its always sort of out there, changing shape. Its gotten incredibly complicated as the country has aged and changed. It used to just be blacks and whites, but clearly, its more complex now.

    There’s something about this episode that I found reminiscent of the Borat movie. As I think some of the posts indicate here, it isn’t exactly clear what the”message” is in Benihana. Michaels an idiot and can’t tell one Asian from another, but no character really presses him on that, he doesn’t discover for himself that he’s got a …racist tendancy. Similarly in Borat, there are lots of racial slurs, primarily at Jews, and it isn’t exactly clear whether the audience is laughing along with the slurs, or whether the audience is laughing at the rather appalling shallowness of the middle Americans who don’t seemed shocked in the least by Borat’s outrageous anti Semitism. I think both Borat and this episode of The Office just kind of point out the quiet, latent racisim that seems to exist beneath the surface everywhere. Sadly.

  48. Phil wrote:

    I also agree with Eric -The Convict episode was much more direct in exploring society’s fear of the black man. And I don’t think anyone “learned their lesson” in that episode either. If we are to take Schrute seriously at all, he was utterly contemptible. Does The Office get watched by black America much?

  49. Anonymous wrote:

    “I can’t believe people are so upset about this! This is the same show that just a couple of weeks ago played on the stereotype of black people stealing in “the convict”.”

    I don’t think you can compare the two episodes. There are so many different variables. For one, the black man was accused of a sophisticated, white-collar “brand” of stealing funds, which I think was a play on how when some people imagine a convict (specifically a black one) they might think COPS more than Enron. Second, this man was well-spoken and eloquent and intelligent, and was treated by his coworkers (exempting Michael) as interesting and unthreatening. Remember the scene where everyone is in the office kitchen asking him questions? No one is stereotyping him or treating him badly.

    Truly, the “convict” was given a personality that was the opposite of the “type” of criminal behavior stereotypically associated with blacks. White collar crime. Not treated with fear or intimidation by his coworkers. The episode was not playing with black stereotypes the way it played with Asian stereotypes in “Benihana.”

    Contrast “Convict” to “Benihana”: two Asian women Michael and Andy randomly pick up show up at the party. Coworkers laugh at the fact that they seem indiscernable from one another (troubling stereotype). Worst of all, the Asian women are clueless that they’re being mixed up and laughed at; the stereotype is never overtly mentioned but everyone knows what the “in joke” is anyway. No one’s fooled as to what “waitress” is supposed to mean.

    If “The Convict” had been constructed like “Benihana,” the African-American man would have been a convict because of looting or robbing a liquor store (troubling stereotype). His coworkers would never overtly refer to his black, but the audience would be “in on the joke” that his race is a large part of any underlying persepctive and antagonism towards him. And no one in the office would condemn their behavior about it. They might laugh over it.

    You can’t compare the two episodes. Michael didn’t secretly physically mark or tag the African-American man like a piece of meat for being a convict. Michael didn’t do that and then tell Jim about it and have Jim double over laughing instead of being horrified. Yet what happened to the Asian woman in the Benihana episode?

  50. Phil wrote:

    Anonymous, I agree with you that the shows can be distinguished from one another, but they do both address stereotyping generally. Dwight’s conduct toward the convict was more outlandish that Michael’s was toward the Asian women, in my opinion. In addition, Angela expressed fear of sitting in a dangerous, poorly lit corner of the office. Maybe that storyline was more about paranoia, or stereotyping about ex convicts, and not so much about race. But why was the ex convict cast as a black character. Why not just a white white collar criminal? That wasn’t a casting accident. Incidentally, I did not think that episode was a very well written one. Michael seemed meaner, angrier in that episode than in any other one, to me.

  51. Mario Ramon wrote:

    It was funny, it made people laugh, that’s it.

    Cry me a river.

  52. lurker wrote:

    “Oh no! I wrote “substituting waitresses” instead of “Asians” at 4:20 in the morning, wow, what a horrible mistake. Talking about proofreading on an online message board is the most retarded thing you can do. Did I Oenter a Microsoft Word contest over here? I really don’t care how I worded it at 4 in the morning because the point is still valid.”

    Haha. Of course you care.

    If a mistake like yours were made by a coherent person, then I wouldn’t have said anything. But you’re dumb, and your typing at 4 in the morning was probably not the reason.

    “The Office’ is now racist because they finally made an Asian joke, where it’s been ok to joke about other races this whole time. It shows how ethnocentric you Asians still are”

    I thought it was a Waitress joke! Less evidence of your stupidity in your next post please.

    I guess you didn’t read the original blog that talked about the “approach” the office took to the Asian joke, and that it different from how they handled other racial jokes.

    Ugh, I thought the capital “A” was a typo, but guess not. WaY GroOvy, DeAd Mike!

  53. lurker wrote:

    This show sucks!

  54. lurker wrote:

    Ah, I’m getting paranoid. Were those two Asian waitresses in the View audience during Rosie’s apology?

  55. Anonymous wrote:

    Lurker, I totally think those were the same two women!

    (In all seriousness, even IF that crew guy’s blog was telling the truth– that Michael and Any were supposed to seem like they had to “settle” for “less attractive” waitresses and there was no “racial joke/trick” on the part of the writers– that second pair of actresses HAD to have been REALLY hard up to take the role of 1) random Asian waitress picked up by boozy sleazy white guys 2) the purposefully LESS attractive pair of random waitresses at that. Azn pride, everybody.)

    Oh and

    “Mario Ramon

    It was funny, it made people laugh, that’s it.

    Cry me a river.”

    LOL. Senor Ramon, the next time I hear a Hispanic person complaining about something I’m going to tell them to cry me a river.

  56. Anonymous wrote:

    *Andy

  57. anonymous wrote:

    I’m an asian-american male, and I sometimes have a similar problem with white women! I prefer to date them over asian women (dunno why, probably not unlike the same reasons white guys prefer asian women), but I’ve gotten into situations where I can’t tell two apart and gotten their names mixed up. Anyways, this show is freakin hilarious, and I’m laughing at all MY white/black stereotypes I see in my own personal cubicle hell every day.

  58. Something wrote:

    This criticism uses certain quotes out of context. Michael does say, “… all waitresses look alike,” but he says this in a semi-drunken stupor, not to mention that between “all” and “waitresses”, there is a long enough pause for the viewer to realize that he WAS about to say “all asians look alike”, then caught himself. But mostly the episode wasn’t about how he thought “all asians look alike”- the fact that they were asian simply was a supplement to the fact that this episode was meant to exemplify Michael’s desperation after losing Carol. He took a “rebound”, a girl who he couldn’t even pick out from a lineup, and really believes that SHE is “the one”. Michael getting drunk and becoming confused between two asians is perfectly in character for him.

  59. Something wrote:

    Oh, and another thing I forgot- There was no “conquest” of the Asians- Let’s see how this episode ended: Michael brought an Asian girl to the party, she gets him to give his bike to her. At the end, she effectively ends the fling, leaving on his bike. Now remind me, who got “conquered” here? She basically just used Michael because she thought the party would be fun. She even left the party soon after it started because it “blowed”. How is that being “conquered”?

  60. Allen wrote:

    It’s just in line with the sensibilities of the show. The comedy comes from the extremely uncomfortable moments.
    A couple of weeks ago they played on the “black convict” stereotype, which lead to lots of awkward comedy.

  61. ScarletKnights wrote:

    Lighten up.

  62. Anonymous wrote:

    Something: What’s with the focus on the word “conquest”? Was it used in the original blog entry or something?

  63. Grace wrote:

    i thought the whole premise worked towards pointing out and making fun of the stereotype, not buying into it. it made Carell’s character - the clueless white guy - look like even more of an idiot.

    as for the two asian women, i don’t think they were the ones in Rosie’s audience: they seemed a little savvier than that. if you watched their faces (which i kept doing because i wanted to see if they would eventually do the “hello kitty” giggle, turn dragon lady, or - best - crack and smirk), it seemed like they have an idea that Michael is an idiot, but are doing what many of us APIA women do in situations like that: exhibit patience until we spot an opportune moment to bolt.

    and anyway, all waitresses DO look alike.

    especially when they’re all in the same uniform.

  64. el wrote:

    hi. I`m not from USA, and where I live we don’t have many other race people, so maybe I`m not aware of exact situation. however, I think writers played a good joke, which object wasn’t Asians, but these viewrs, who didn’t understand that there were different women.

  65. kmymkk wrote:

    Saying all X look alike has never been a specifically Asian thing; it is our understanding that this has always been applicable to all others to include nonracial others (as in claiming it for Burakumin, who are racially indistinguishable from Japanese). Furthermore, while the comedic vilification of the protagonists might not have been as obvious as elsewhere, we see no reason to call this a real deviation or reversal of that policy. The thing with the marker is only arguable in that that would totally be an ass-kicking opportunity. Not that all East Asian dears know martial arts; she could do a bit of straightforward Irish boxing. We can tell people apart, they say the can’t out of racism, racism is bad, this makes them bad — this is worth worrying about? You want racism on TV watch all Arab and Arab-looking characters on every show and channel; you want to focus on East Asians look for hot guys (women are permitted because of the overlap of stereotypical submissiveness, but how many EA guys do you see?).
    We aren’t seeing any definite point at which this episode can be accused of being anything worse than not very obviously didactic.

  66. Vic wrote:

    i never thought that the two sets of asian waitresses looked alike, but i was immediately uncomfortable when they entered the office. were the writers expecting me, an audience member, to assume micheal and andy had failed at picking up cindy and friend? i didn’t find the other waitresses any less attractive, so i didn’t really see the point of the joke. so it seemed like the producers weren’t able to get the same actresses for the party scene and hired others. i know, weird, but i had no idea what was going on!

  67. Vic wrote:

    just to add to that, i don’t think the writers meant anything offensive by it, just their usual fare– has anyone seen the episode “Diversity Day”? Hoo boy! anyway, the joke fell flat but i don’t see any real racism behind it.
    i was watching the episode with my asian friend, and she was laughing hysterically.

  68. Asian I Am wrote:

    I am Asian. And I did watch the show. Twice. And I thought it was hilarious. Having two different women in the office scenes was funny as heck!
    Anyone who tries to get something out of it other than it being a comedy show…you’re an idiot.
    Stop being paranoid about writer’s ignorance or whatever. Maybe you should be asking why there aren’t any Asian employees in Dunder Mifflin…??

  69. indiegoot wrote:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMCw7-5N0JQ

  70. indiegoot wrote:

    in case you missed it.

  71. Franklin Che wrote:

    The portion being discussed, not purposefully, is about white guys bonding over not being able to tell asians apart. That’s not prejudice, just pointing out that from the white perspective, all asian people look alike.

    Its the same for asians who have never seen white people– the difference is that white people are the master race, and control much of the important cultural/political stuff that happens on planet earth.

    Also, its rather weird that these waitresses are going to go to an office party with a bunch of guys they just met.

    Somehow, though, it works on screen– as asians have a very ambiguous and suspicious film identity. Usually they’re the bad guys or whores or nerds– you know the drill.

    -that’s my two cents.

    FC

  72. Matt S. wrote:

    ———————-
    The portion being discussed, not purposefully, is about white guys bonding over not being able to tell asians apart. That’s not prejudice, just pointing out that from the white perspective, all asian people look alike.
    ———————-

    This makes (imho) the completely incorrect assumption that they are “bonding” over not being able to tell asians apart.

    I fully admit the “switching waitresses” joke was dubious, because it just didn’t really make any sense and wasn’t explained well at all… what was the point?

    Still, Jim (and Roy and Kevin) are LAUGHING at how ridiculous it is that Michael does what he does, NOT because they all agree with him. How could anyone who watches the show think otherwise?

  73. first timer wrote:

    Interestingly enough, if you look at the net result, you may begin to understand the intent of the scriptwriters (or producers.)

    While it was a subtle hint at racism, Steve never ends up with any of the girls.

    As an Asian myself, I don’t find this offensive.

    Cindy is pretty, though.

  74. kim wrote:

    why does everything have to be a lesson? why does this show have a responsibility to be politically correct? fuckin chill out people. i’m asian, and i thought the episode was great.

  75. illament wrote:

    All those asians were hot and thats all that mattered to me. Office Rulez, and yes I am asian.

  76. Matt wrote:

    To me, it seemed Jim was shocked at his boss’s behavior first, and then was able to laugh at his boss’s idiocy. It didn’t seem like he laughed in a knowing or agreeing way. And “The Office” is a great show partly because the writers don’t kowtow to the lowest common denominator, routinely offer subtle humor and background gags and aren’t afraid to try a joke like swapping the actresses. For a feel-good sappy sitcom that point blank slap the viewer in the face with a social issue and ends in a resolved freeze-frame, go back about 20 years. That’s not the kind of show I’d tune into as an adult.

  77. Kimberly wrote:

    I was fooling around on youtube.com looking for some clips from The Office (my favorite show) and reveling on how great the program was. I came upon a promo for the “Benihana Christmas” episode and saw the part in which Michael makes the comment about “all waitresses look alike”. I was IMMEDIATELY offended because I knew what he was implying. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), I have not seen the entire episode so I decided to do some research and see if the episode offended any other Asian-Americans. To my great joy, I found this site. I read through all 70+ comments and have taken in arguments on both sides.

    Now here is my side:

    I’ve watched “The Office” religiously enough that I can understand Michael’s foot-in-mouth character. I can understand that the writing often straddles the line of humor and offense. I recall one moment early on in the series in which Michael is impersonating an Asian man. He bucks out his teeth and wears glasses with drawn in “squinty” eyes while saying in a thick accent, “Me so horny.” This by itself is rather offensive, but the scene saved itself by having the camera pan towards an Asian woman behind Michael staring at him with disgust, signifying that Michael had a ridiculous perception of Asians.

    I agree with others that the “Benihana” joke was unnecessary and not funny. Again, since I did not watch the entire episode, I understand if most people won’t take my opinion seriously (if this gets read…). From what I hear, the “All Asians look alike joke” was replayed over and over throughout the episode and was only reinforced by the other characters. I did see one scene: Michael’s coworkers ask him which of the waitresses is his. He’s bewildered and responds, “Well, they’re wearing the same outfits. And you know what they say, ‘All waitresses look alike.’” This response receives boisterous laughs from the coworkers. Why are they laughing? The producers don’t make it clear. In my opinion, I think they know that Michael means “Asians” instead of “waitresses” (as he stammers on the word “waitresses”). Instead of a joke meant to be among Asians, it is instead is an inside joke among the cast and producers. I feel it’s like they are saying, “Ha! You think that we’re making a joke highlighting Michael’s stupidity and ignorance of Asian culture. But really we’re just saying that it’s true, all Asians DO look alike.” And hearing that Jim, the supposed sweetheart of the show (and MY sweetheart), laughs along with Michael is disheartening. Of course I’d have to see the clip for myself to make any judgments; however, just knowing that his behavior was in question is enough to make me rethink my loyalty to his character.

    What really angered me however was that it reminded me of a time in my psychology class when my teacher, an Asian-American, told us a story about her AA friend who married a Caucasian man. The husband said, “I’m sorry. But I really can’t tell Asian people apart.” To which the wife replied, “Well, just know what I look like and be sure to tell me apart from others.” And the teacher laughed possibly expecting the predominantly Asian class to laugh along. I was too upset to take note of who was actually laughing. This just shows that as much as we want to believe we’re all getting along, we’re not. Race will always be an issue, and I feel like the media reinforces the stereotypes against Asians and all we can do is take it and accept it. (That’s why I don’t understand some interracial relationships. Most are made up of submissive Asian girls who’ll tolerate anything (like my teacher’s friend) and chauvinistic White males.)

    I am glad people are making such a big deal out of this. They are just standing up for what they think is unjust, and no one is to say that they are in the wrong for questioning a racist joke on television.

  78. John wrote:

    I agree the episode of The Office was very disturbing, and not very funny.

  79. G. D. wrote:

    I’ve rarely seen the new “Office” show, but I got hooked on the original British episodes (which were recently shown on PBS here in Detroit) and saw one episode where the boss was making some very offensive racial jokes concerning a black man, and at least 3 of his employees call him on it right then and there–they didn’t let him slide by with it.

    From the descriptions of this particluar episode, it sounds like the writers just went along with that lame,lazy “all Asians look alike” stereotype and just felt no need to challenge the assumptions or further expand on the fallacy of that. Another thing–I find that stereotype so ridiculous for the simple fact that if Asians, or any other entire race of people looked alike, how the hell would they be able to tell each other apart? I mean,gimme a break! Apparently there aren’t enough Asian-American T.V. writers behind the scenes, because if that were the case, you wouldn’t see these same tired,played-out stereotype being trotted out again.

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