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1. Animelee/Andrew wrote:

   Just awesome. Awesome.

   And Hiro almost even got the girl! I wasn’t upset that he didn’t get the kiss, because for dramatic effect of his powers going out of whack, that HAD to happen. So I’m not upset about it.

   Everything was just awesome. Jessica being Nikki’s sister, us finding out about Chandra and “Gabriel”, as well as that incredible writing where we found out that Charlie had an embolism, and was doomed to death, anyways. I just know Hiro is going to find a treatment for her in the future, and bring it back to her, or something. I just KNOW it. Hiro is just too awesome not to do that. His line of, “I loved her…”, with Ando giving him comfort… Perfect.

   And we found out how Nathan’s wife ended up the way she is, Peter’s first dream of his brother, and Nathan’s first flight in a dangerous situation.

   And then Horn-Rimmed Glasses meeting Chandra, and then Eden? Nice.

   I wish they did more with the Matt Parkman storyline, though. We need more of him in the present, not the past. And not with his wife, but with his work at the FBI.

   This show is shaping up to be the next LOST. Hell, I think this show has been more fulfilling that season 3 of LOST has so far… LOST really needs to get better after the break (luckily the next flashback episode is Juliet’s).

   Posted 28 Nov 2006 at 6:28 pm ¶

2. Carmen Van Kerckhove wrote:

   Yeah I totally agree with you about the Hiro non-kiss. It made it all that much more poignant and meaningful.

   I’m still a die-hard Lost fan and actually I thought this first mini-season was awesome! Cool that we’ll get Juliet’s flashback next though.

   Posted 28 Nov 2006 at 6:31 pm ¶

3. Annette Pratt wrote:

   I love this show so much. I usually watch it with my husband but, he went to bed early and I couldn’t wait. This episode was really interesting and it did deliver on great information we didn’t have already. I am really glad, however, that next week’s ep will tell us what happened after Peter saved Claire and hopefully saved the world.

   This show is great in it’s multicultureness too. I love how almost every romantic relationship is intercultural and no one seems to even think twice about it. Even Nikki’s jerk of a father seemed completely unphazed about her relationship with D. L. I wonder if Tim Kring intentionally looks for a multicultural cast. His other big show Crossing Jordan also has a bit of a multicultural feel.

   Posted 28 Nov 2006 at 7:46 pm ¶

4. brad wrote:

   Here’s the thing about Nikki and D.L., it’s great to have a mixed-couple but did they have to be a stripper and an ex-con, respectively? I’m also looking forward to understand why Jessica hates D.L. She set him to go to prison and now appears to be ready to kill him.

   As for the lack of discussion of race, I’ve been thinking of “Grey’s Anatomy” and it’s mixed-cast. I think it’s sad that race is never a topic of discussion because it makes the show less real. In the real world, wouldn’t there be more conversations about race either directly or indirectly?

   Grey’s does a great job of guest casting people of color and shows mixed couples all the time. Yet, again, there’s no discussion about race and its effects.

   I like the multiracial cast. If anything, it reminds me of NBC’s insistence back in the 1960s to have Star Trek be more diverse. In the original pilot, the Capt. Christopher Pike cast was all-white although his chief lieutenant was a woman.

   Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 12:34 pm ¶

5. Carmen Van Kerckhove wrote:

   Yeah Nikki and DL may be a stripper and ex-con. But there are a lot of other IR couples on the show too who don’t necessary fall into negative stereotypes: Hiro and the diner waitress, Isaac (ok he’s a junkie) and Simone, Peter and Simone, and I think something may be brewing between Mohinder and Eden…

   But I agree with you that the “color-blind” and “la la la I don’t see race” thing is not necessarily a positive development in depictions of interracial relationships.

   I’ve said this before, but I’d like to see more movies and TV shows like “Something New” (Sanaa Lathan and Simon Baker). They didn’t gloss over race at ALL and yet, they handled it realistically without the melodrama. They even discussed white privilege in the movie – and it’s a frickin romantic comedy!

   Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 12:45 pm ¶

6. brad wrote:

   Just a question: Simone is obviously mixed-race (either first or multigenerational); so is her relationship with Peter or Issac really interracial?

   Carmen, if you dated a monoracial Asian man, would you be in an interracial relationship?

   Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 1:14 pm ¶

7. Carmen Van Kerckhove wrote:

   “Just a question: Simone is obviously mixed-race (either first or multigenerational); so is her relationship with Peter or Issac really interracial? ”

   The actress does look mixed, but so far her character on the show hasn’t been shown as anything but monoracial. That may change in future episodes, who knows.

   “Carmen, if you dated a monoracial Asian man, would you be in an interracial relationship?”

   In my opinion, yes. My view is that mixed folks are by default in interracial relationships, unless their partner happens to be someone of their exact same mix.

   But others may have different views on this. Anyone?

   Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 1:30 pm ¶

8. brad wrote:

   “The actress does look mixed, but so far her character on the show hasn’t been shown as anything but monoracial.” Huh? The actress is mixed. Don’t you mean the show hasn’t explored her perception of ethnicity or culture? Why isn’t it possible to be a mixed-race African-American?

   But aren’t you Asian and White? Should being biracial make you less Asian or less White? I understand that being biracial also makes one different but does it make one separate from one’s parents?

   Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 1:40 pm ¶

9. Lyonside wrote:

   >My view is that mixed folks are by default in interracial relationships, unless their partner happens to be someone of their exact same mix.

   This tends to be my default view too – the only exception being someone raised in a monocultural environment (usually a minority one) and who self-identifies as only that one group. In that case, I respect that person’s right to self-identify.

   And of course, a couple can be interethnic while still being lumped in the same “race” group, and have a lot of the same cultural issues and experiences as a traditional “interracial” couple. I’m thinking pairings like Japanese/Indonesian, or African-American/African-Carribbean. Different histories, different experiences, sometimes different religious and social festivals…

   Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 1:42 pm ¶

10. brad wrote:

    Back to Heroes, I’m still waiting for the explanation for how Dr. Suresh was able to find individuals with genetic gifts. Given how slowly genes flow because of the large population today, it makes the possibility of a single X-gene, a la the X-Men, as the source of mutation unbelievable.

    Frankly, I like the idea of a mutagen, a substance that causes mutation because it explains widespread genetic changes.

    Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 1:49 pm ¶

11. Lyonside wrote:

    >Why isn’t it possible to be a mixed-race African-American?

    Particularly (but not exclusively) in the US AA community, there is a difference between someone who is multigenerationally mixed (i.e. you don’t know where those “other” ancestors are, but there seem to be more than one) and someone who is a first-generation mix (i.e. mom is X, dad is Y). Most of that has to go with the legacy of racism, racial categories, segregation, and one-droppism.

    There is often some sense of shame and even pride associated with those “lighter” ancestors. For many “multigens,” both their parents are self-identified as African-American, and in the same family there’s a rainbow of skin tones that can occur. It’s up to the individual whether they identify as mixed-race black, as you put it, or just black, or as mixed.

    Because of the history and strong sense of culture, most multigenerational mixed people I know have identified solely African-American.For many other families, though, that part of past history is either unknown or potentially embarassing/humiliating and therefore best left forgotten.

    >Should being biracial make you less Asian or less White? I understand that being biracial also makes one different but does it make one separate from one’s parents?

    If someone has 2 parents of 2 racial/ethnic/cultural backgrounds, and that child is exposed to both or at least not fully self- identified as one or the other, then it is a part of their personal identity. As a part of their identity, it tends to set the person apart from someone else whose parents are both from the same background. Therefore, inter-”fill in the blank” seems to apply.

    Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 2:15 pm ¶

12. kim wrote:

    ‘In my opinion, yes. My view is that mixed folks are by default in interracial relationships, unless their partner happens to be someone of their exact same mix.’

    Doesn’t (xy) + (xy) = 2xy , with the ‘xy’ combination never forming a group called, say, ‘z’?

    The point is: two interracial people bringing an identical mix to the union does not negate the MIX, but merely doubles its presence.

    It is still interracial, though not interracial differently. Are we saying ‘xy’ is its own racial group or sub-group? (mark the spot on the census…)

    Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 4:32 pm ¶

13. Carmen Van Kerckhove wrote:

    Damn, we’re getting into algebra now?

    Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 4:43 pm ¶

14. kim wrote:

    >If someone has 2 parents of 2 racial/ethnic/cultural backgrounds, and that child is exposed to both or at least not fully self- identified as one or the other, then it is a part of their personal identity.

    Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 4:50 pm ¶

15. SolShine7 wrote:

    Heroes is totally my new favorite show. Did you know that they show re-runs on the Sci-Fi Channel? I missed Monday’s episode so I’m gonna watch it tonight at 9 p.m.

    Save the cheerleader, save the world. Who else can’t get this out of their head?

    Posted 29 Nov 2006 at 7:35 pm ¶

16. Adrianna wrote:

    Heroes is great show!! I love that the cast is diverse, but it could be more diverse. I think the other show that is diverse,but underrated is Scrubs. Very very funny show!! Heroes can get even more diverse with Mohinder having that list of all the people who have potential powers. I hope that Tim Kring the creator hires more actors of color for next season. More Black women, Asian women, Asian men, Latina women, latino men !!!

    Posted 30 Nov 2006 at 3:17 am ¶

17. Adrianna wrote:

    I hope they give the guy simply named “The Haitian “a name and lines I mean I’m proud and all to have a fellow country man on the show,but I liked to hear him say something, anything !

    Posted 30 Nov 2006 at 3:32 am ¶

18. Denis wrote:

    Funny thing. How does the cop and the nuclear man know the Haitian is Haitian… He just looks Black to me, I wouldn’t be able to pinpoint his nationality.

    Posted 06 Dec 2006 at 7:14 pm ¶

19. Hooper wrote:

    I can’t stand this show. It is yet another example of how racist Hollywood is all too willing to have an exoticized black woman serve as the chocolate fantasy of some white guy, while cringing at the prospect of the reverse… (e.g. In “Love Actually” Kira Knightly supposedly was in love with a black character, yet all of her scenes were with that Colin Firth joker) or even two black characters being with each other for that matter.

    Nearly all of the black male characters are villians. The one who isn’t was in a coma… He’s now dead. Hollywood loves to kill off black men. The other black male character, DL, who at first was characterized as a villain, and turns out not to be quite as bad, although he’s still a walking stereotype… But, the white woman with whom he had a child has to die for that act of racial transgression.

    Why don’t the white guys have to die in movies like “Bend it like Beckham?” No, there is nothing new about the racial dynamic of Heroes. It has the same Hollywood white supremacist racist core just beneath the surface.

    Posted 16 Jan 2007 at 1:20 pm ¶

20. frasera wrote:

    why are you complaining, the black guy bangs ali larter. the asian man cant even get a kiss from the girl before she dies.

    Posted 28 Feb 2007 at 8:44 am ¶

21. Rob wrote:

    Though I think that roles for all minorities need to be improved, I’d have to agree with Frasera on this one.

    Blacks, specifically black men, have it easy compared to other races in mainstream American media. The black demographic is the only group that is actually overrepresented in regards to their population size while Latinos and Asians are getting the shaft. If anything, Latinos get the worst part of deal with their population being 15% while their roles only comprise about 4%. Respectfully, Asians are about 4% of the population but only get 2% of the airtime. And of that 2%, almost all of them belong to Asian women.

    With all the “bad” roles blacks get, I can think of many good non-stereotypical roles. I’m not saying that blacks should be happy with what they have but think about how others are treated before you rant off on how “bad” you got it. There are many others that would trade their kidneys for what you have.

    Posted 28 Feb 2007 at 11:07 am ¶

22. Anonymous wrote:

    I hate the fact that they killed the only latina on the show. It is very frustrating to see latin people be killed off right away from this show. Do they not like latinos!!!!!WTF.

    Posted 21 Oct 2008 at 11:58 am ¶