Maury paternity test for biracial child

by Carmen Van Kerckhove

I stumbled across this gem on YouTube the other day. It’s an old episode of the Maury show where they do a paternity test to prove what everyone in the audience already thinks: there’s no way this white man can be the father of this mixed-looking child. It’s depressing that to much of America, depictions like these form their impressions of interracial relationships.

I feel so bad for the poor kid. He’s basically on the show to serve as the punchline to everybody’s joke.

But this clip also says a lot about how interracial relationships and interracial sex are framed. The focus is on the humiliation of the cuckolded white man, whose wife can’t resist the sexual power of the black man. Not coincidentally, that’s pretty much of the plot of every interracial pornographic film too.

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brad wrote:

On the flipside, Maury has had “black” couples on where the man says that the baby can’t be his because the baby looks to light-skinned or white (fair skin and sometimes blond or light brown hair). After a DNA test, the child is proven to be his. Maury then explains that this is quite common.

Posted 13 Oct 2006 at 11:44 am ¶
dcase wrote:

Carmen,

You bring out a good point about the relationship between the views on interracial relationships–cuckolding, white women succumbing to the sexual prowess of big black men– and how the porn industry profits on them.

A year or two ago, many of the mainstream outlets reported on an outbreak of HIV in the porn industry and I remember that the focuse was that this black male actor had infected two young white female actresses. One article listed some of the movies that this guy appeared in: they had names like “[some name] has a negro problem,” interracial lust,” “me love you long time,” “Jungle Love,” etc. I remember thinking how could people submit themselves for this racist crap. But I guess money and possibly another example of people embracing “positive stereotypes.”

I’m sure, given the amount of money spent on porn in this country , those movies have an enormous impacts in perpetuating stereotypes.

Posted 13 Oct 2006 at 12:32 pm ¶
gatamala wrote:

dcase-

[i will reluctantly offer my $.02]

porn is classified by orientation, gender, race and action.

Interracial & Asian are huge categories. There is no white category. I don’t hate porn in and of itself, but the racial dynamics are FOUL.

while I’m in TMI mode: I’d much rather watch an “interracial” flick starring Mr. Marcus than watch Maury Povich.

Posted 13 Oct 2006 at 2:58 pm ¶
Ann wrote:

“Not coincidentally, that’s pretty much the plot of every interracial pornographic film.”

Wow! I did not know that!

I guess I’ve lived a sheltered life where porno is concerned. Me and my books and history programs.

Sheesh!

My limited understanding of porno films is that “soft-core” porn is categorized as “white porn”: i.e., porn filmed and targeted as less barbaric (for lack of a better term), soft-focused.

And “hard-core” porn is categorized as “black porn”: i.e., vicious, sadistic, rough.

It figures that the porn kingpins would make porno that degrades black people even further.

But aside from that, what can be so possibly hellish about a nine-to-five that anyone would rather act in a so-called film where everyone and their uncle sees nothing but a proctologist and gynecologist view of your body parts?

Posted 13 Oct 2006 at 8:56 pm ¶
Naro% wrote:

“The focus is on the humiliation of the cuckolded white man, ”

Not the cuckold!! we getting real deep in the mix, now thats what I call racialicious!!

Nice drop,
NARO%

Posted 14 Oct 2006 at 10:45 am ¶
Ann wrote:

As for the “cuckolded white man”, well, you reap what you sow.

Massa has been shoving his penis in non-white women for centuries (especially his sadistic, cruel treatment of black women comes to mind). He has been breeding and creating half-caste children for centuries and generations, children that he treated like trash by not acknowledging them.

“Cuckolded white man”.

It’s just Massa’s subconscious mind that he is expressing in his porno movies.

He knows his race has done wrong to black people with the sanctioned mass gang-rapes of black women.

This type of porno movie is just a Freudian slip of Massa’s deep subconscious thoughts.

As goes life, so goes “art”.

Posted 14 Oct 2006 at 5:17 pm ¶
Carmen Van Kerckhove wrote:

“Not the cuckold!! we getting real deep in the mix, now thats what I call racialicious!!”

Hey, nothing’s off-limits here, Naro% . Considering that porn is a billion-dollar industry, I think we can safely that it’s a part of pop culture now.

Posted 15 Oct 2006 at 12:30 am ¶
Naro% wrote:

Exactly!! A while back Rachel (rachels tavern) had a thread discussing the usage of the word interracial and how if you type it in most search engines about 98 percent of the returns lead to porn. I know we had mentioned doing some type of research on this because this is a very very big issue. Sexuality tied to, “notions” then carried out in the mainstream as “deviant entertainment”. Sounds like the makings of a carnival…
Peace
NARO%

Posted 15 Oct 2006 at 12:53 am ¶
MizuWari wrote:

All those beautiful bodies out there in pornland, yet nobody can’t think out of the box in order to craft different storylines to get the juices flowing…I like porn, but if the final fuck is the real meat of the matter (pun intended), then is it really that much of a stretch to have two (or more) bodies of a different shade come together (pun intended) without all the also-ran stereotyping? I know this was really supposed to be about the Maury thing but we all know where this starts and ends.

I ain’t naive about this. A little mutual objectification of everyone concerned is necessary for the drive. And the shit’s a bizness first, freaking second. But all that cuckolding and gangbang raping by the “undesirable element” soiling the pristine White Ideal is just a CHOICE. One made intentionally or subconsicously with a agenda in mind, usually not for the altruistic benefit of society in general. And there are so many other BETTER facets of sexuality, erotica & porn that can be shown, used, made profit from and happily jerk/jilled off to as well.

There’s always alternatives, but those mountains won’t come to you, you gotta go to them. As with mostly everything in life, if you want the better shit, you either have to be willing to do some crate-digging, spend more filthy lucre on the premium stuff made in limited editions not sold to the masses, or make it yourself. And as a creative person, I stress the latter most wholeheartedly.

Posted 15 Oct 2006 at 12:48 pm ¶
J wrote:

A growing number of people (Asian guys, but also the women (both Asian and non-Asian) who are in relationships with them or prefer them) are calling for the introduction or invention of a ’straight Asian male niche/market’ in porn to somewhat forcibly introduce the existence or idea of Asian male sexuality onto the public consciousness. How do you feel about this?

How would any of you feel about Asian Male and White female interracial porn? Shock? Disgust? (Secret) Titillation? I would really appreciate total candor and honest on this – I won’t get mad.

Some argue (mostly Latin and Asian men) that there is damage being done by the promotion of only a handful of of ‘modes’ of interracial sex in porn – typically that of the black man and white woman, and that of the white man and Asian/Latin woman. They feel that the male counterparts of the Asian and Latin women are being ‘hurt’ (in reputation) by being left out. This begs another related question – can porn and even mainstream depictions of interracial sex/love ‘enhance’ the reputations of certain segments? I for one believe that this is possible, and that concurrently the opposite is also plausible – systematic ‘exclusion’ on this front can ‘damage’ the reputations of certain segments.

I suppose the proponents of this idea operate under the incomplete assumption that porn is devoid of sexism and mysogyny and that the promotion of an ‘interracial agenda will benefit all (esp. those who are or wish to engage in interracial relations) – but for the purposes of discussion, let’s assume that these guy who want straight AM-porn made would agree to porn that is friendly to both genders. Then – do you think that the sexual ‘reputation’ of Latin and especially asian men (considering their stereotypes) can be ameliorated (to whatever degree – whether its greatly or somewhat) by showing them onscreen in sexual acts with white, Latin, black and also Asian women?

I’ve talked to quite a few people, and this is what more and more Asian (and sometimes Latin) guys seem to think. Even some women (both Asian and non-Asian, though non-Asian women tend to be more vocal in approval) seem to agree with this idea.

There is another question of the financial feasibility of such a niche market of porn. In Japan, there is a pretty large market for porn featuring Japanese men and white European women… this works because there is a proven and relatively stable consumer base. In America, most white consumers prefer to stick to white-on-white porn, and there is a segment that does consume black-on-white interracial porn (This is why the grossly racist/sexist ‘black monster and white virgin’ themes prevail – the majority of BM/WF interracial porn consumers are actually white males!) – and this is probably the only reason why BM/WF porn is economically sustainable – white males are actually pouring their dollars into this niche and keeping it alive. Essentially, black males who view and enjoy this stuff are piggy-backing on the backs of some white men. How’s that for ironic? Imagine the Stormfront supremacists losing a gasket over these white ‘traitors’ who are helping out the Brotha… pure comedy.

Anyway it’s about time I wind this down. I guess this subject piqued my interest because itremains fresh in my head – I did school research for a paper on Asian-American male sexuality a few years ago. My thoughts above are what’s basically left in my brain after a period of 3 years or so.

Thanks for reading, I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

Posted 15 Nov 2006 at 8:36 pm ¶
S wrote:

Like you said, that industry is tailored for white males. I doubt many white males want to see Asian men, not the straight ones. Though, there was a study that said women now make up 40% of the purchases, so, in essence, the target female audience is probably more focused on stereotypical sexual situations, mainstream stereotypical. That, in America, does not yet include Asian men. But I would be glad to have been excluded by such a demeaning industry. IMHO Though I do understand what you were getting at.

Posted 15 Nov 2006 at 8:50 pm ¶
J wrote:

Btw, I’d like to throw this quetions out there.

Are white or other non-Asian women who like Asian men more vocal about promoting ‘Asian male porn’ because one has no choice to view interracial relationships/sex through a warped fetishistic lens? Maybe they want to see this AM/WF porn more because they desire an outlet for their race fetishes – Asian women probably won’t have to do this with Asian men because of their similairty – the titilation from CONTRAST isn’t there. But its the opposite for interracial couples, no matter which way you cut it. So it’s possible that we are so strongly colored by racial stereotypes that our very perceptions are colored by them when we look at our interracial lovers, who we love and cherish, and also look at at individuals that go beyond skin color. How ironic – maybe the notion of “color-blind love” is ka-putt forever-more.

Now the following falls without a question into the ‘T.M.I.’ (too much info) category so I should apologize in advance, but I feel that it’s a good oppurtunity to slice right through the muck and get to the point. When I’ve had sex with non-Asian women (mostly white), we would talk dirty for fun, and the most bizarre and zany (and potentially offensive, at least if said in public) comments would pop out of our mouths in the heat of passion. Maybe it’s just a sign of our latent prejudices and stereotyping (which we ALL do and have), which we all hide away in our deepest recesses in the interest of appearing politically-correct in public. Things like:

“You like that big Asian ****?” And “Yes, yes… f*ck my little white ***** with that big d*ck. **** me!!” would pop out of our mouths. Unbelievable.

Is this learned behavior, or what? I think human sexuality is too complex a concept to cram into my pathetic little post, but there are elements where the taboo and the un-PC actually do titilate us. For us men, its where are silly male EGOS come into the equation. Maybe black guys and other minority males feel slighted or short-changed by the prejudices of the white majorty, so they take it out on the women they have sex with in the bedroom. I’m not justifying this – just pointing it out.

Maybe interracial relationships exists out there where couples make absolutely NO mention of their race when having sex…. but I wonder sometimes. My skeptical side says that they don’t exist, and that almost all interracial couples secretly indulge in behavior that almost certainly contradicts what they preach in public. It’s kind of analogous to a woman who prefers to be strong, independent etc. outside the bedroom, but enjoys and even prefers to be dominated (and in some cases humiliated – believe me, they’re out there, and i’ve met them!) in the bedroom. I’ve also known “respectable” white guys who supposedly aren’t racist role-play with Asian girls by dressing them up as geishas. They most likely also indulged in talk about “big, white ****s and “tight, little Asian *******” out of reflex.

LOL…. I’ve probably embarrassed myself PLENTY by now, but I guess I have no problem talking this frankly when it comes to peeling back the layers of this quagmire they call ‘interracial love/sex’ .

Thoughts on that would be appreciated too.

Posted 15 Nov 2006 at 8:57 pm ¶
J wrote:

Now let’s discuss the whole concept of ‘inter-connectivity’ in the interracial dating web. Since I’m an Asian Male, I’ll naturally center this around my experience, while trying my best to respect the other groups/segements. So bear with me.

The way this whole stereotypical ‘interracial hierarchy’ is set up in porn, it seems to go like this. It’s also notable that this hirearchy could also be a reflection of how the larger society sees interracial relations in America, outisde of the realm of porn.

black male —–> white female
white male —–> Asian/Latin female
Asian male —–> ?

…. I am not whining. Don’t get me wrong – I take descisive, concrete and positive steps in my personal life to overcome the racial limitations placed on me (in my case, it’s largely sexual since I’m a straight Asian man), and overall I do well with the ladies. Yes, white ones too (or latin, or black, what-have-you). I’m merely pointing out the firmly entrenched viewpoint that the status quo seems to promote and hammer into everyone’s heads.

I feel that all interracial sexual stereotypes are inter-related, and that none of the categories (or variations of IR) are seperate and disconnect.

So ACCORDING TO THIS SCHEME, ASIAN MALES ARE AN EVOLUTIONARY DEAD END. Well – is this true?

I guess you can see this whole farce as sort of an interracial wife-swap or swinger party – black males will go white, and in the face of competition white males will go Asian/Latin.

Theoretically Asian men could also go for white and latin women, but the dynamics of female attraction (where women value men who are desired by other women – the logic goes that a man who’s popular with women, even along interracial lines, must have some intrinsic reproductive value – like good genes, or social influence, or power) may limit the Asian man’s access to these women – his ‘rejection’ at the hands of his own, and concurrently the symbolism displayed by the active choice of Asian women to go with white men, will theoretically decrease his implied value. Some people call this a “lack of social proof.”

There are ways to overcome this deficiency in social proof for an Asian man.

1. He can play the numbers game, and go through sheer volumes of women. Someone will bite eventually.

2. He can work on improving his social skills by going out as much as possible and interacting with guys, and girls. A charming guy can more likely ’seduce’ women by establishing a ‘connection’ through skillful banter and flirting.

I would have added the third option “3. Stick to Asian Women”, but here I want to add my personal opinion that its a foregone conlusion that Asian men can’t just ’stick to Asian women’ and hope to remain sexually or reproductively competitive anymore. Being “loyal” in the racially militant sense won’t guarantee anything given the high rate of Asian female out-marriage/dating.

Posted 15 Nov 2006 at 8:59 pm ¶
J wrote:

Oh and S,

You’re right that porn in the U.S. isn’t made for anyone other than white males. There’s some porn being made by black producers (most black male ex-pornstars who ‘retired’), but it’s:

1) generally low quality
2) pigeonholed into ‘black porn’ (porn for blacks) category
3) has a sizeable white fanbase anyway – most buyers are white

In any event, you’re right that porn of AM/WF or AM/AF probably won’t make a big dent in the market… now, and possibly ever.

But that’s not the point. I’m not sure if you’re a white man, or a white woman, or an Asian woman, or whatever – but these people don’t want to make porn for YOU. LOL.

They want to make it for themselves, and maybe those women who are ‘undecided’ about the prospect of Asian men as sex and love partners, but are open to the idea (Of course they themselves wouldn’t know this yet. A lot of non-Asian women who ‘discover’ Asian men simply couldn’t fathom dating one, because they don’t know any Asian guys or none have asked them out.).

Posted 17 Nov 2006 at 3:36 pm ¶
S wrote:

As far as Yeah, that’s my experience. I don’t really know many Asian guys. The few that I know are polar opposites: generally cool vs. racist. I would date an Asian guy, if he had what I was looking for in a boyfriend. Though, I admit, it’s not something I have actively thought about. I am more focused on personality I guess.

I don’t think porn is a good measuring tool for the subject of dating.

Posted 17 Nov 2006 at 6:22 pm ¶
J wrote:

Well you know, I’m not asking or forcing people to date Asian guys. =) That’s not the point – who you date or prefer is your own business.

That said, though: what you say is just further evidence of the silent forces at work.

Think about this – why was it never in your reality to go out of your way to get to know an Asian guy? It’s because the system is SET UP so that you don’t find them compelling or ‘cool’ enough to step out of your daily routine to befriend one of us. We’re the race-pinata… the race punch-line if you will. And it’s just not funny anymore. Hardy-effin’ har, eh? LOL.

Of course it’s a given that your main option is to date a white stud, but pseudo-liberal propaganda also gives you an option of trying out a black stud or a Latin Lover – because it’s “hip” and “cool”. Because you’re supposed to “live life to the illest”, have 50Cent and Kanye in your CD-changer, dance the samba and Latin-swing at clubs, and have tons and tons of token black friends because it makes you look cool and open-minded.

By the way I’m just using a heavy dose of sarcasm, and none of it is intentionally directed at you. So don’t be alarmed or angry. =) I’m just doing this to point out the bullshit that’s floating around out there in society, and my hope is that anyone on the net reads this and learns something from it (though maybe I could be preaching to the choir, in certain instances). If my comments seem caustic, I feel that that’s only a measure of just how ridiculous society is these days… the contrast between the truth and distorted reality is just too large these days, and it’s reflected that much more strongly by the biting tone of my post.

Posted 21 Nov 2006 at 9:42 pm ¶
J wrote:

What I am trying to do here is point out the hypocritical inconsistencies of Americans in regard to ‘color-blind society’ and ‘color-blind love’. Quite frankly it’s all bull – any interracial love is colored by our prevailing notions of race, no matter how much you kick and scream in denial. We have this preposterous popular notion that miscegenation leads to ‘emancipation from prejudice’, but that’s a myth. Merely sticking your genitals in a person of a different color does not wash away your prejudice. This is unavoidable because we are born into a system and society that is colored in such a way, and as we all know it boils down to the question of ‘Nature vs. Nurture’: our environment and the experiences we gain while living in it has a huge effect on how we accumulate subtle racial prejudices. The only way out is through conducting a cold, deliberate, and precise surgical dissection of social/racial dynamics, and identifying its effects on us. That is what I’m going to do right now… so bear with me.

It’s time Americans were more honest with themselves and stopped being afraid of admitting that they are, in their subtle Nouveau-Racist way, prejudiced. There’s no real shame in it (unless its the virulent, hateful kind… that’s wrong) – it’s our universal common folly. Recognize it, and work to mitigate or eliminate it. And in regard to the issue of Asian-Americans in the media and Asian men in particular – you just have to read the subtle sub-contexts in media messages to understand what is really going on here… I mean under the surface pretense of an ‘inclusive American racial utopia’.

When’s the last time you saw an Asian male in print media (or any media)? When you open up your Banana Republic, Bergdorf Goodman, GAP, Urban Outfitters, or any print catalogue – you will see a happy mish-mash of interracial friendship and bliss: a white man laughing with his token-black buddy, an Asian girl perched on the lap of her white boyfriend, a white girl hanging out with a black dude (usually a more “acceptable” Mulatto, though).

Is there anything inherent wrong with these interracial pairings, in and of themselves? No. But there IS something wrong when they are used SYSTEMATICALLY to ignore and exclude specific segments of the population. Jesus, absolutely! It’s plainly racist, and sends out a message (which is unfortunately only visible to those that are affected… obviously not your blissfully-ignorant John Doe/Jane Jones):

YOU DO NOT MATTER. SILENTLY FADE AWAY INTO OBSCURITY: WE DO NOT HAVE A PLACE FOR YOU IN OUR INTERRACIAL GARDEN OF EDEN.

… you just have to laugh at that kind of transparent bull. LOL! Hilarious. Yet it’s sadly a daily reality for some of us. If anyone reading this feels inclined to deny it, try walking in my shoes for a month. Hell… how about 27 years? And I’m just ONE man… think of the realities of other segments of our multi-racial society – how about the much maligned African-American Woman? Just how much crap does she have to put up with from the media? A lot. I feel for them. They’re depicted as trashy loudmouths, and the media makes a field day out of pairing up bruthas with Latin and white girls in the name of artificial inclusion… I can imagine and understand their outrage.

It will be easy to label me right this instant as the ‘Crazy Angry Asian Guy’, but take it from me – I’ve been forced to overcome my anger many, many years ago. I’ve had to – to survive and flourish despite the fact that this society tries to keep me down using silent and insidious methods of attack. So I’m quite lucid and coherent at ALL times when discussing this race stuff.

I’ve been forced to adapt and evolve in a society that marginalizes and emasculates me in every way from A-to-Z, having a good laugh at my expense (Gedde Watanabe, anyone? Sixteen Candles? “Whassa happenin’, Hot-stuff?” William Hung, anyone? She-bangs! She-bangs!) while simultaneously trying to absorb my Asian sisters as the sexual spoils of a silent and unspoken ‘race-war’. In a society that places such massive pressure on the Asian Man, it quite literally was the Survival of the Fittest… the best and the quickest find success in the mating game, and those who aren’t fade into evolutionary obscurity.

Again, fellow readers… please try to understand that I’m just trying to point out the inconsistencies of my (and your) fellow Americans. There is a SYSTEMATIC exclusion of Asian Males on many fronts of a supposedly ‘inclusive’ society – and there lies the ultimate hypocrisy and irony. If you are having such a good ole’ time living in a ‘black-n-white utopia’ (when I use that second-person pronoun I’m talking to society-at-large, not any individual here), then where are the Brown people? The Yellow people? Are they delivering your Chinese take-out, or doing your dishes, or cleaning your public bathroom? While you and your SINGLE TOKEN BLACK FRIEND are having an ice-cold brewski while watching the game? Please. It’s so insulting.

This is the silent Media Apartheid – and unfortunately, the media DOES shape our perception in the Real World. It’s the Black Death. It’s a symbolic Genocide: include and assimilate the females, and exclude and gradually phase the males out. (Note: Black Males don’t fall under this scheme because the media and real-life pseudo-liberal circles have to keep up appearances of racial tolerance and inclusion. Because apparently, one SYMBOLIC ‘media affirmative action’ case (the Black Man) is enough to serve their cause – the others are apparently superfluous…. completely expendable in their shallow and nouveau-racist agenda. Heheh… it’s nice to know that I’ve been reduced to a tool. A smoke screen to cover up the reality of a country that is still very much racist.)

It’s a two-prong drive – excluding men almost completely while using strategic inclusion of females (usually as the love/sex-interest of the white man) to again placate the myopic masses that demand mere SYMBOLIC token inclusion of all segments of society. Combine that with the unquestioning deference to ‘black male dignity/authority’ (As though black males serve as a proxy for all people of color, right? No offense to you Afro-American folks here.), and you get this absolutely arbitrary “rule” in American media: the ‘Race-Gender Proxy System’. This is where they (typically) use Asian women to represent all Asians and the black males to represent all African-Americans. And it’s NO co-incidence that a healthy dose of fetishistic sexuality is injected into the mold to titillate the minds of race-obsessed perverts (oh excuse me… I meant ‘Color-Blind Americans’).

Posted 21 Nov 2006 at 9:47 pm ¶
Katy wrote:

Hello,

Although Asian men may not be portrayed as studs, they are alot of times potrayed as smart or at least with good business since.

One could argue that black women could become extinct in the mainstream media and even on this website. And not just this website, but lots of “interracial” sites. If anyone speaks of interracial relationships,it’s always a black man and white woman, or a white man and and asian woman. It’s just a little disturbing that black women and asian men are so easily excluded. The only time a black woman is seen as sexually viable is in a music video for “black music”.The media makes it seem like it’s okay for the black woman to be alone and strong instead of just being a domestic woman that wants to take care of the house and children. As much as I love the Cosby’s and hate to bring them up in this discussion, even Mrs.Huxtable had a job as a lawyer and took care of 4-5 kids, which I am sure is impossible.

Although Asian men may not be portrayed as studs, they are alot of times potrayed as smart or at least with good business since. But hey on Tyra today, she had an asian male model in the background!

Posted 30 Nov 2006 at 4:05 am ¶
Ashonti Williams wrote:

Maury I really do presade all the thing you do 4 the kids, and adult like helping people tell the longest secrets to the world and television.

Posted 11 Jan 2007 at 3:26 pm ¶
Ashonti Williams wrote:

I wish you could help me tell my moma that I have had sex with her ex-boyfriend wall she was at church.I know she will be very hurt but she needs to know b 4 she lives the world.

Posted 11 Jan 2007 at 3:29 pm ¶
Colin wrote:

I very much despise Maury Povich. His exploitative tactics on his show are disgusting and this is sadly not surprising, just another episode of his pathetic excuse for a show. The sickening racial aspect of this episode wasn’t the worst part, to me, it’s the fake sympathy Maury shows that really makes me ill.

Posted 11 Feb 2007 at 6:08 am ¶